
Ocean of (Allied) Blood.
Moderators: wdolson, MOD_War-in-the-Pacific-Admirals-Edition
RE: 2day turns
43-11-17: I hope my b25s are as coordinated as these helens.


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RE: 2day turns
43-11-17: Debut of the p70a w. radar.


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RE: 2day turns
and more p70. I am looking for some night kills. These are not full sqns of 12 planes, but rather detachments of 4. The effect of radar seems to be that all the planes of the unit show up for the fight.

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Night Air attack on Woodlark Island , at 104,133
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 7
Allied aircraft
P-40N1 Warhawk x 10
P-70A-1 Havoc x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
35th FG/40th FS with P-40N1 Warhawk (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead
418th NFS with P-70A-1 Havoc (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 7000
Raid is overhead
Some CAP have air radar
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Night Air attack on Woodlark Island , at 104,133
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 7
Allied aircraft
P-40N1 Warhawk x 10
P-70A-1 Havoc x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
35th FG/40th FS with P-40N1 Warhawk (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead
418th NFS with P-70A-1 Havoc (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 7000
Raid is overhead
Some CAP have air radar
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RE: 2day turns
The most odd event was the use of the emily as a night torpedo delivery system.

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Night Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 98,130
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
H8K2 Emily x 5
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IV x 2
P-40N5 Warhawk x 2
P-70A-1 Havoc x 1
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
AM Wollongong
LCT-361
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x H8K2 Emily launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
CAP engaged:
No.15 Sqn RNZAF with Kittyhawk IV (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
15th FG/6th NFS with P-40N5 Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
421st NFS with P-70A-1 Havoc (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 11000
Raid is overhead
Some CAP have air radar
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Night Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 98,130
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
H8K2 Emily x 5
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IV x 2
P-40N5 Warhawk x 2
P-70A-1 Havoc x 1
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
AM Wollongong
LCT-361
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x H8K2 Emily launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
CAP engaged:
No.15 Sqn RNZAF with Kittyhawk IV (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
15th FG/6th NFS with P-40N5 Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead
421st NFS with P-70A-1 Havoc (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 11000
Raid is overhead
Some CAP have air radar
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RE: 2day turns
losses for two days...looks like the p70 may be attriting the IJ night attack.


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RE: 2day turns
43-11-19: First a score recap. FatR nailed a LST respply covoy at Milne bay.
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Milne Bay at 101,133, Range 11,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CB Kawachi
DD Asanagi
DD Yunagi
DD Okikaze
DD Yakaze
Allied Ships
LST-19, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
LST-22, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
LST-28, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
LCI-24, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
LCI-62, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
SC PC-1084, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Allied TF begins to get underway
Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 53% moonlight: 12,000 yards
All the ground plane loses came from a bombardment at MilneBay and another At Buna by the Maya TF.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Milne Bay at 101,133, Range 11,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CB Kawachi
DD Asanagi
DD Yunagi
DD Okikaze
DD Yakaze
Allied Ships
LST-19, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
LST-22, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
LST-28, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
LCI-24, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
LCI-62, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
SC PC-1084, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Allied TF begins to get underway
Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 53% moonlight: 12,000 yards
All the ground plane loses came from a bombardment at MilneBay and another At Buna by the Maya TF.

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RE: 2day turns
Allied sub north of Truk put two torps into a new jap carrier. It probably will make port.
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Sub attack near Guam at 109,100
Japanese Ships
CV Renkaku, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
DD Suzunami
DD Tokitsukaze
Allied Ships
SS Sunfish
Ammo storage explosion on CV Renkaku
SS Sunfish launches 6 torpedoes at CV Renkaku
Sunfish diving deep ....
DD Tokitsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tokitsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tokitsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tokitsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tokitsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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Sub attack near Guam at 109,100
Japanese Ships
CV Renkaku, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
DD Suzunami
DD Tokitsukaze
Allied Ships
SS Sunfish
Ammo storage explosion on CV Renkaku
SS Sunfish launches 6 torpedoes at CV Renkaku
Sunfish diving deep ....
DD Tokitsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tokitsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tokitsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tokitsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tokitsukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

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RE: 2day turns
And china keeps bleeding....the pressure stays on.


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RE: Russian front
I see that not having a restriction on cross border transfer(manchuko garrison at full pp price) has a dramatic game changing effect. I request counter balance.
The russians would have been providing supply in real life. Request u activate the russians so that I can provide supply to china. The russians will not cross border.
Sadly , I want a no rules game but the effect(manchuko garrison used in china) borks the chinese in this senario. I must also apologize to you for changing the long run effect of this game. I should have assumed command using the original house rules.
I hope I have played a good china. It is possible I am to blame for the failure. feel free to publish this request on your AAR.
Sincerly,
Paul
RE: Russian front
FatR: I can't activate Russians right now, as I'll need to complete some troop movements before that, even with the assumption that the border won't be crossed. Will it satisfy you if USSR will be active by approximately January 10?ORIGINAL: bigred
I see that not having a restriction on cross border transfer(manchuko garrison at full pp price) has a dramatic game changing effect. I request counter balance.
The russians would have been providing supply in real life. Request u activate the russians so that I can provide supply to china. The russians will not cross border.
Sadly , I want a no rules game but the effect(manchuko garrison used in china) borks the chinese in this senario. I must also apologize to you for changing the long run effect of this game. I should have assumed command using the original house rules.
I hope I have played a good china. It is possible I am to blame for the failure. feel free to publish this request on your AAR.
Sincerly,
Paul
RE: Russian front
Will it satisfy you if USSR will be active by approximately January 10? no, I want it now.[:D]ORIGINAL: FatR
FatR: I can't activate Russians right now, as I'll need to complete some troop movements before that, even with the assumption that the border won't be crossed. Will it satisfy you if USSR will be active by approximately January 10?ORIGINAL: bigred
I see that not having a restriction on cross border transfer(manchuko garrison at full pp price) has a dramatic game changing effect. I request counter balance.
The russians would have been providing supply in real life. Request u activate the russians so that I can provide supply to china. The russians will not cross border.
Sadly , I want a no rules game but the effect(manchuko garrison used in china) borks the chinese in this senario. I must also apologize to you for changing the long run effect of this game. I should have assumed command using the original house rules.
I hope I have played a good china. It is possible I am to blame for the failure. feel free to publish this request on your AAR.
Sincerly,
Paul
I note IJA army hq prep for USSR so your intentions are clear. I should be given time to relocate my troops as needed anyway instead of being forced to sit still and let u maneuver across the border for a best position...
RE: Russian front
Tracker Intel: I need to switch to 2 day tracker so I want to save some data to this tread.


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RE: Russian front
Email to FatR.
I do wish for u to activate the russian front to supply the chinese.
Situation dicates no futher garrantee.
If u undergarrison the front i will attack, which would be in the long term interest of the russians.
Because of the above political comments I hope u do activate the russians and I hope u do provide a goodly amount of Manchuko garrison to keep me from attacking..
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RE: Russian front
ORIGINAL: bigred
Email to FatR.
I do wish for u to activate the russian front to supply the chinese.
Situation dicates no futher garrantee.
If u undergarrison the front i will attack, which would be in the long term interest of the russians.
Because of the above political comments I hope u do activate the russians and I hope u do provide a goodly amount of Manchuko garrison to keep me from attacking..
I have run many games with Active Russians and NEVER seen an Allied player act badly
When I pushed the envelope - invading Mongolia - they replied - locally - in Mongolia - until the cost
was so high I left the country
Russia and Japan cannot afford another major front in 1941 or anytime soon after that - so neither
should let it happen
But active Russians means the Japanese must garrison Manchuria - with planes not just troops - just as IRL.
IT also means the Allies can move things, control construction, etc - and that is simply the way it should be.
RE: 2day turns
ORIGINAL: bigred
and more p70. I am looking for some night kills. These are not full sqns of 12 planes, but rather detachments of 4. The effect of radar seems to be that all the planes of the unit show up for the fight.
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Night Air attack on Woodlark Island , at 104,133
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 7
Allied aircraft
P-40N1 Warhawk x 10
P-70A-1 Havoc x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-49-IIb Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
35th FG/40th FS with P-40N1 Warhawk (10 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Raid is overhead
418th NFS with P-70A-1 Havoc (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 7000
Raid is overhead
Some CAP have air radar
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Have yet to see one whit of difference in the capabilities of radar equipped night fighters over conventional planes. I have the black widow now along with night F6F, corsairs, and beaufighters. All have proven to be a non factor and have no more kills over the non radar equipped planes (what few kills there are) However, any fighter unit on night CAP regardless of type will severely lessen the impact of any enemy bombing attack. My only point being don't worry about night fighters as anything will do. They have no more use than any other fighter at night. Sad but true. It is an excellent way to make use of the small New Zealand fighter units or units with 2nd line aircraft.
I am the Holy Roman Emperor and am above grammar.
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Sigismund of Luxemburg
RE: 2day turns
This was my original letter to FatR.
I see my diplomacy is alittle off the original base when at first I did recieve a warm response.
Then i began to press my original position with this:
This is where I may have goofed up:
So give me an inch and i take a mile. In my first transmission I promised not to attack then later I said I would attack. Dont ever let me be a diplomat.
I see that not having a restriction on cross border transfer(manchuko garrison at full pp price) has a dramatic game changing effect. I request counter balance.
The russians would have been providing supply in real life. Request u activate the russians so that I can provide supply to china. The russians will not cross border.
Sadly , I want a no rules game but the effect(manchuko garrison used in china) borks the chinese in this senario. I must also apologize to you for changing the long run effect of this game. I should have assumed command using the original house rules.
I hope I have played a good china. It is possible I am to blame for the failure. feel free to publish this request on your AAR.
Sincerly,
Paul
I see my diplomacy is alittle off the original base when at first I did recieve a warm response.
FatR: I can't activate Russians right now, as I'll need to complete some troop movements before that, even with the assumption that the border won't be crossed. Will it satisfy you if USSR will be active by approximately January 10?
Then i began to press my original position with this:
bigred: no, I want it now.
I note IJA army hq prep for USSR so your intentions are clear. I should be given time to relocate my troops as needed anyway instead of being forced to sit still and let u maneuver across the border for a best position...
This is where I may have goofed up:
quote:
I do wish for u to activate the russian front to supply the chinese.
Situation dicates no futher garrantee.
If u undergarrison the front i will attack, which would be in the long term interest of the russians.
Because of the above political comments I hope u do activate the russians and I hope u do provide a goodly amount of Manchuko garrison to keep me from attacking..
So give me an inch and i take a mile. In my first transmission I promised not to attack then later I said I would attack. Dont ever let me be a diplomat.
RE: 2day turns
Just converted tracker to 2 day tunrs. Intel made a auto load. never seen that before.


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11-25-43: I am using my pre war DDs as sub killers.


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RE: 2day turns
I agree. Any fighter on night mission appears to disrupt bombing runs with an "accidental" kill now and then.They have no more use than any other fighter at night. Sad but true. It is an excellent way to make use of the small New Zealand fighter units or units with 2nd line aircraft.
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