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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)

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Make sure you split the RS into parts. You will still get a full 10/10 DL even when using 2-3 planes! [:)] In the meantime familiarize yourself with Intel Monkey. You can get very solid info from it. Almost as good as recon! [:)]

I'm not sure if this is true in stock as eel, but in this babes scenario so far I've gotten all of three recon groups, two with four of the F-4s, one with 5 of the B-25 recon plane. That's it. I can't really split them yet as the production doesn't start for these planes for another 3-4 months! [X(]\

It's all about conservation. I check each turn to see if fatigue is high on the airframes!

I haven't even loaded intel monkey as of yet. I'll have to try it. I have been compiling basic reports on bases I'm interested in though, so it's about the same, but there is NO info on some places.

You should be getting the 1st edition of the recon version of the wildcat (camera equipped). You only get a few over two months and their range is limited but still the camera makes all the difference. They take marine pilots so you will have to spend some time training them up if you have not already done so. I am at mid May and have about eight of them so far.
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Make sure you split the RS into parts. You will still get a full 10/10 DL even when using 2-3 planes! [:)] In the meantime familiarize yourself with Intel Monkey. You can get very solid info from it. Almost as good as recon! [:)]

I'm not sure if this is true in stock as eel, but in this babes scenario so far I've gotten all of three recon groups, two with four of the F-4s, one with 5 of the B-25 recon plane. That's it. I can't really split them yet as the production doesn't start for these planes for another 3-4 months! [X(]\

It's all about conservation. I check each turn to see if fatigue is high on the airframes!

I haven't even loaded intel monkey as of yet. I'll have to try it. I have been compiling basic reports on bases I'm interested in though, so it's about the same, but there is NO info on some places.

You should be getting the 1st edition of the recon version of the wildcat (camera equipped). You only get a few over two months and their range is limited but still the camera makes all the difference. They take marine pilots so you will have to spend some time training them up if you have not already done so. I am at mid May and have about eight of them so far.

Yes, just sent the group with Buffs to PH now that the Wildcat is online. I'm not sure I can upgrade until I have a full group though. Been training them and they should be ready now with recon and search skills, although with so few planes I won't risk them on searching duties as I could so easily with Japan.
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There should be another group as well, VMF 111 that can split down into sections and is best used for recon. I leave the one group with a few buffalos for training and am filling out the other with the recon wildcat.

And wow! I just discovered that the lowly Fulmar fighter is camera equipped. You get a lot of these and since they are useless in about any other role, will serve well as short ranged recon. Only took me about 2,000 turns to discover this...[&:]
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The group just loaded up with Wildcats at PH, but no drop tanks yet, so very short range.

The one Fulmar group in India right now is training fighter pilots, but I just noticed the camera too. It's got slightly longer range than the Lysander, so should be able to do some work once these guys are out of school and I can get some other trainees in.

Just had another thought. I could resize the Fulmars and train a lot more pilots. [:)]
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[font="Times New Roman"]MAY 24-25, 1942[/font]
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font]Mines now at Wenchow.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]INDIA: [/font]Closing in on the first of July which is a big day in India; the start of Hurri IIc production! [:)] I know, not that critical, but in PDU-off I am hoping this plane will be pretty tough not going up against only Tojos. By the way, we should be seeing the Tojo soon. One Helen group is already flying, so the Tojo must not be far behind. Damn Scen 2 (DBB scen 30)!

So far things are going well with Operation Chariot. Troops have gained possession of all but one of the dot base objectives. Since I began a week or two earlier than expected I didn't have the paras to go after Jubbalore early, but armor is on the way and paras are moving at full speed out of Cape Town now. About four more AA units are coming too, which will be very helpful. Here is a screenshot. I made the decision to go for Goa with an armor unit as I really want his flank secure. It's still unoccupied, but he could fly in something at any time once the tanks are spotted. My damn recon didn't fly to Hyderabad for the third day in a row, so I can't contest the air there until I know what is in the base. Gives him time to prepare which I didn't want.

Recon did go to Madras though, which had NO fighters in base! [X(] It could be a trap, so I've set only the one B-17D group to bomb the reported 18 ships in port. Hopefully he'll be busy sweeping Cochin or piling on Hyderabad and not cover this. Just merchants it seems, but every ship sunk helps and all of them have fuel on board in their bunkers. Fingers crossed.

Cochin is attracting a lot of attention so I took a risk and flew in 12 Lancers, a decent Chinese group. If the bombers come again tomorrow they'll have a field day.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]Pacific: [/font]no sign of activity from the Japanese yet. Still sending small units around the So Pac area and flying fragments and supply into the Gilberts.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] One unit in Pingsiang is getting worn down. I'll swap it out with another bigger one, also 100% prepped for the base. It should be a 2-3 day swap. I'm hoping he'll DA in the interval as they cross, but I don't think he'll risk it yet.

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Morning Air attack on Cochin Fortress, at 28,40 (Cochin)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged

No hits. The base here is holding very nicely, which is why I'm now starting to support them. Pieces of two Aussie units are flown in giving the defenders almost parity with the para-troops now there. I like getting those paras stuck if possible. He can always move in overland, but hopefully that will take a while.

Aircraft Attacking:
33 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Cochin Fortress, at 28,40 (Cochin)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 33

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
33 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 12000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Cochin Fortress, at 28,40 (Cochin)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 47

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 4 damaged Amazing. No hits from about 120 bombers![X(]

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
20 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
10 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Cochin (28,40)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1390 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 54

Defending force 3029 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 6

Japanese adjusted assault: 41

Allied adjusted defense: 35

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
2nd Raiding Regiment
1st Raiding Rgt /1

Defending units:
Cochin Base Force
Cochin Fortress

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The group just loaded up with Wildcats at PH, but no drop tanks yet, so very short range.

The one Fulmar group in India right now is training fighter pilots, but I just noticed the camera too. It's got slightly longer range than the Lysander, so should be able to do some work once these guys are out of school and I can get some other trainees in.

Just had another thought. I could resize the Fulmars and train a lot more pilots. [:)]

Yes, but you can train any unit in recon. But re sizing the fulmars is not a bad idea cause you get enough of them. Might as well put them to work.
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The group just loaded up with Wildcats at PH, but no drop tanks yet, so very short range.

The one Fulmar group in India right now is training fighter pilots, but I just noticed the camera too. It's got slightly longer range than the Lysander, so should be able to do some work once these guys are out of school and I can get some other trainees in.

Just had another thought. I could resize the Fulmars and train a lot more pilots. [:)]

Yes, but you can train any unit in recon. But re sizing the fulmars is not a bad idea cause you get enough of them. Might as well put them to work.

For training I was thinking fighters so I can use the somewhat decent fighter groups on the front lines. In PDU-off I'm learning that every little thing matter with air groups, training and logistics.
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[font="Times New Roman"]May 26 - 27, 1942[/font]

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font]There was some unintentional mine clearing at Diego! An AMC, so at least something decent got hurt. Sub mining strikes again. Batting 2 for 2. We'll see if we catch it on the way back.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]INDIA: [/font]The Abdiel draws a lot of attention on it's fast supply run to Cochin, but gets the job done, dropping 350 supply in the base. Several Betty groups come for it but the good AA keeps them off in the morning. In the afternoon one TT hits. The ship isn't doing badly though with 34 float damage and still label to make 23 knots. She should get to safe territory the tomorrow easily. It'll be a month or so in the yard now though. I could use Bombay but I think I'll send her to Aden to be safe.

The Lancers in Cochin must have scared off the Sallys, as the bombing stopped. I sent them back to Poona, surprise over, and flew another two groups there as well. Time to test the Japanese a bit. Radar won't arrive at this base for another day or two though, so I hope nothing comes immediately. The base has reached a size 6 field, but there isn't AA yet. Still waiting on US units.

The B-17D strike went very well. They managed to get past the A6M2s on duty and plaster the transports in base. A total of 14 bomb hits and some sinking sounds after the phase, so probably the little PB an maybe one of the two bomb hit xAKs. Nice to do something positive anyway.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] The JApanese come up the road toward the mountains in the South and bombard. It's the 5th Guards Division and another few arty units plus a Thai cavalry unit. Not much chance they'll get through, but they can keep pounding on supply.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 26, 42
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TF 210 encounters mine field at Diego Garcia (11,62)

Japanese Ships
PB Tatebu Maru
PB Kinsyo Maru #2
AMC Saigon Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire

3 mines cleared
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 27, 42
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Cochin at 28,40

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
CM Abdiel

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
16 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 2 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
xAK Syoka Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Asuka Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
xAK Heito Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Matsue Maru, Bomb hits 1
PB Teibo Maru #2, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Kinsyo Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
xAK Chicago Maru, Bomb hits 1
xAK Shinko Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Toba Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Mito Maru, Bomb hits 1
xAK Mikage Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
Port Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
15th Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cochin at 28,40

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CM Abdiel, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

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Ground combat at 63,45 (near Bhamo)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 804 troops, 31 guns, 103 vehicles, Assault Value = 613

Defending force 18741 troops, 78 guns, 35 vehicles, Assault Value = 695

Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
RTA Cavalry Division
9th Ind Engineer Regiment
5th Guards Division
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion

Defending units:
96th Chinese Division
1st Burma Division
9th Burma Rifles Battalion
22nd New Chinese Division
200th Chinese Division
2nd Reserve Division
1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment

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[font="Times New Roman"]MAY 28 - 29, 1942[/font]

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font]Another 40 mines dropped off in Wenchow.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]INDIA: [/font]The Japanese tested the Poona air units a day too early. Radar was still coming out of strat mode so detection times were very short and over the course of multiple sweeps the defenders were worn down. The first few went well though, showing some promise for future days. I've moved the units back to recover while the Lightnings get ready and radar unpacks. A stronger show of force will head out in 3-4 days again.

Tanks inch toward Goa and Bhopal. Other dot bases near level 1 fields. No response noticed from the Japanese, yet. Of course Hyderabad is the ultimate goal, but with 200 fighters there now a few close bases need to be built up and secured first.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]Pacific: [/font]Still no indication of a response from the IJN.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]PI: [/font] Bataan falls and the PI campaign is over. No I'll get to see where the 200 bombers here will go.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SIGINT:[/font] Two heavy traffic messages in one day. Subs will be sent to have a look, but likely will be too late.

[font="Trebuchet MS"]Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Babeldaob (90,97).
Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Babeldaob (90,97).
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 28, 42
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Morning Air attack on Poona , at 36,26

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20

Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 12
P-400 Airacobra x 25
P-40E Warhawk x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-43A-1 Lancer: 1 destroyed
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on Poona , at 36,26

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33

Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 7
P-400 Airacobra x 22
P-40E Warhawk x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-43A-1 Lancer: 1 destroyed
P-400 Airacobra: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
7 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Poona , at 36,26

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 3
P-400 Airacobra x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on Poona , at 36,26

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 2
P-400 Airacobra x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Poona , at 36,26

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5

Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 1
P-400 Airacobra x 9
P-40E Warhawk x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-43A-1 Lancer: 1 destroyed
P-400 Airacobra: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on Poona , at 36,26

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33

Allied aircraft
P-400 Airacobra x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-400 Airacobra: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
26 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet

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Ground combat at Pingsiang (82,54)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2724 troops, 119 guns, 288 vehicles, Assault Value = 1012

Defending force 37345 troops, 213 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1168

Allied ground losses:
293 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 29, 42
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Ground combat at Pingsiang (82,54)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2724 troops, 119 guns, 288 vehicles, Assault Value = 1012

Defending force 38167 troops, 216 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1249

Allied ground losses:
129 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

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Ground combat at Bataan (78,77)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 24948 troops, 420 guns, 740 vehicles, Assault Value = 881

Defending force 19230 troops, 271 guns, 89 vehicles, Assault Value = 293

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 442

Allied adjusted defense: 139

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Bataan !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
336 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 14 (2 destroyed, 12 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
26522 casualties reported
Squads: 368 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1559 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 44 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 368 (368 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 75 (75 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 22


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I think you are looking real good, although it is a pity you lost those troops early on in India with the snafu of river crossing and redoing turns, etc.

A central pacific offensive hasn't been slowed any, and in fact you are in great shape there despite Japan's offensives, and to me that is the greatest threat to Japan -- America pushing onto the Marianas. He has secured oil from Burma and DEI for a good while, but I think at huge cost in supplies and fuel.

China might not last, if he turns his attention there, but then that means a quicker reconquest of India/Oz.

Well done weathering the storm.
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I think you are looking real good, although it is a pity you lost those troops early on in India with the snafu of river crossing and redoing turns, etc.

A central pacific offensive hasn't been slowed any, and in fact you are in great shape there despite Japan's offensives, and to me that is the greatest threat to Japan -- America pushing onto the Marianas. He has secured oil from Burma and DEI for a good while, but I think at huge cost in supplies and fuel.

China might not last, if he turns his attention there, but then that means a quicker reconquest of India/Oz.

Well done weathering the storm.

Thanks. It's starting to feel a lot better. Looks like he'll make a big Chinese push now, but I think that was to be expected, and I'll just hunker down the best I can and take it.

The Marianas and No Pac will likely be a big focus for me as I know how important the strat bombing campaign an be late. I do think India must have cost a lot in supply and fuel, but he'll probably come out somewhat even after getting the Ledo oil for a while and Madras and Jamshedpur industry. Depends on what he does now I guess. Does he try to hold on? Or just have a slow and even retreat as Indian troops gain the ability to challenge there?

I have to be a bit careful as I know there is a very experienced army of 4k AV out there somewhere! Where is the question! [:)]




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[font="Times New Roman"]MAY 30 - 31, 1942[/font]

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font]The Pike got a nice little tanker coming out of Balikpapan. Sargo attacked and almost got another but only launched two torps instead of the four the Pike skipper used. I'll have to check those ratings, again. Need some new 90 day wonders to get through the training program though. Running out of quality picks for sub captains.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]INDIA: [/font]Tried a bit of a risky move with the 4Es and it bit me in the ass. It looked from recon like there were only 30 fighters and about 80 bombers and 50 auxiliary planes in Madras. The last time I flew here m B-17D flight of 8 planes made it through the CAP and had one loss from flak on a port attack. This time I wasn't so lucky.

All of the 4E groups came in separately after the first two and the CAP just got stronger. We barely touched the fields and ended up with 12 4E lost on the day!! Ouch. [:(]

My bad though. I have to be patient. Their time will come, and it won't be too long. I have to sweep and escort. I know the drill. Just to much too early here, so back to the hanger for some patching, and in a few weeks they'll be ready to try it again.

Oh, also. I set them to 8k to try to get under CAP and also avoid the balloons. Seems the balloons were also at 8k. How high do they go?

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]Pacific: [/font]Still not even getting detection on any TFs moving either in So Pac or in Cent Pac. I'll risk a few more deep fast transport moves.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] The Pingsiang area seems to have stabilized. Looks like what I have to do is place one unit on combat and the rest in reserve to conserve supplies and keep them from taking damage in the bombardment. The one unit in combat mode takes the hits, the others build up continually. Then I can switch out the fighting unit after it has gotten worn down or low morale. I tried using all on reserve, but one units always reverts to combat during the bombardment, so this seems to work better as I can choose which I want to fight.

Still forming the rear line. Takes a while to get off road. Sending some units back fro the Sian area to get in the woods to beef up the second line there as well. The AV at Sian topped 2500 yesterday. That from around 1800 a few months ago after the attack there, so slowly but surely troops are building back to strength. There are still about 700 disabled infantry squads in these units though.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 30, 42
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Sub attack near Donggala at 69,96

Japanese Ships
TK Samui Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
PB Tama Maru #5

Allied Ships
SS Pike
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Afternoon Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes no radar working yet.

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6
LB-30 Liberator x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed by flak
LB-30 Liberator: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak


Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x LB-30 Liberator bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
15th Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 12 on standby, 20 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes

Fujiwara G. in a A6M2 Zero makes head on attack ... forces B-17E Fortress out of formation
Kawakami B. in a A6M2 Zero makes head on attack ... forces LB-30 Liberator out of formation

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Afternoon Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-56 Thalia: 1 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 8 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed by flak


Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Pilots: Interesting. I have to guys in TRACOM that I know about. How did this happen? [:)]

[font="Trebuchet MS"]Accelerated training for 10 Chinese pilots from month-cycle 10[/font]

Ships Sunk:

[font="Trebuchet MS"]TK Samui Maru is reported to have been sunk near Donggala on May 30, 1942
xAK Nagara Maru is reported to have been sunk near San Fernando on Dec 09, 1941
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[font="Trebuchet MS"]This beast did pretty well with the Chinese pilots recently against the zero. One of the fun parts of PDU-off is that it's possible and in fact necessary to use every airframe available in some capacity. Once the Vanguard arrives I'l be able to consolidate the I-15s and I-16s and have one group of those too. They're the only Allied planes that can rival the Japanese in maneuverability and should be good for lower levels of CAP once pilots have some decent defensive skills. That takes a while though, as few Chinese group leaders have the requisite stats. [/font]
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[font="Times New Roman"]June 1 - 2, 1942[/font]

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]INDIA: [/font]Troops reach Bhopal and take the base. Now for Jubbalore. Then I'll build for a while and shift around toward Hyderabad with all of the quality units. Need a closer base than Poona to strike effectively, to begin moving in and cover the troops.

Goa also falls which is great. Now an amphibious move behind the march on Hyderabad is highly unlikely. A few base forces with CD guns will move in and start building. This also meant that Cochin received a big dump of supplies somehow. These is now 4k in the base! [:)]

At Cochin the Japanese paras tried another landing with more troops and failed to take the base, getting a 1:2 with each side taking 7-8 squad losses. I'll fly a few more in now as there is supply. I'd really love to keep this base.

Interestingly recon near Hyderabad picked up a unit one hex outside the base. I'll attempt to sweep with P-38s tomorrow. It likely has no radar, but also it's a good test to see if the CAP is set to 0 hexes or to an area around the base. If it is we'll likely pick off a few zeros. If not we set the challenge that sweeps will strike around the base if CAP bleeds over.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] Uh Oh! This is what I feared. Two hundred bombers show up in China and go for Pingsiang and Changsha. The losses in troops are unsustainable at Pingsiang, and that is in +2 with 3 forts. The decision is made. The move back to the rear line will commence immediately. Operation Drawbridge.

On the 2nd the AVG got into the action and Nick's sweeps didn't fly. he was not happy about this. Around 25 2Es shot down. The AVG will now move back to the relative safety of Chungking. These are the best Allied pilots on the map, still, due to days like this.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]OZ:[/font] Made a few mistakes with off-map TFs. While they can travel at flank between off map bases, anything heading to on-map uses fuel, which sucks! I didn't know there was a difference, and two TFs get the shaft when the escorts run out of fuel. One is moving at 2 hexes a day now and will be on map in 73 days! [8|]

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SIGINT:[/font] So, maybe this is getting garrisons in so the divisions can move around more easily?

[font="Trebuchet MS"]4/Yokosuka 5th SNLF is loaded on xAK Unkai Maru #3 moving to Calcutta.[/font]

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Morning Air attack on 9th Prov Chinese Corps, at 82,54 (Pingsiang)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 70
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 13
Ki-51 Sonia x 10

Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 6 destroyed, 3 damaged


No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
284 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Morning Air attack on 9th Prov Chinese Corps, at 82,54 (Pingsiang)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 21

Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Morning Air attack on Changsha , at 82,52

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 9
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 27
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 18
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 27

Allied aircraft
H81-A3 x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 14
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[font="Trebuchet MS"]Operation Drawbridge. Here are the paths of retreat. Around Sian I'll only move out a few units to make some more solid second line positions. I'll see what the air presence is here before deciding whether to abandon the base. It does have a good amount of supply, and the river crossing. I'dlove to make the IJA cross again. [/font]
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Made a few mistakes with off-map TFs. While they can travel at flank between off map bases, anything heading to on-map uses fuel, which sucks! I didn't know there was a difference, and two TFs get the shaft when the escorts run out of fuel. One is moving at 2 hexes a day now and will be on map in 73 days! [8|]

Did this once myself. [:D] Since you are unable to form a new TF, this lesson last more than a turn or two. Feels like a cut on your arm or leg that never heals. You learn very quickly about managing off map movement.
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Made a few mistakes with off-map TFs. While they can travel at flank between off map bases, anything heading to on-map uses fuel, which sucks! I didn't know there was a difference, and two TFs get the shaft when the escorts run out of fuel. One is moving at 2 hexes a day now and will be on map in 73 days! [8|]

Did this once myself. [:D] Since you are unable to form a new TF, this lesson last more than a turn or two. Feels like a cut on your arm or leg that never heals. You learn very quickly about managing off map movement.
Playing Scenario 1, I recently had a single xAK run out of fuel during the trip from Balboa to PH after I forgot to turn off the full speed. I set it to normal speed even though it was out of fuel and about 10 days later it
suddenly got enough fuel to get to PH at normal speed (still in the off-map holding box). There were other TFs using that route too so I figure the AI must allow a chance of one of them transferring fuel.[:)]
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Made a few mistakes with off-map TFs. While they can travel at flank between off map bases, anything heading to on-map uses fuel, which sucks! I didn't know there was a difference, and two TFs get the shaft when the escorts run out of fuel. One is moving at 2 hexes a day now and will be on map in 73 days! [8|]

Did this once myself. [:D] Since you are unable to form a new TF, this lesson last more than a turn or two. Feels like a cut on your arm or leg that never heals. You learn very quickly about managing off map movement.
Playing Scenario 1, I recently had a single xAK run out of fuel during the trip from Balboa to PH after I forgot to turn off the full speed. I set it to normal speed even though it was out of fuel and about 10 days later it
suddenly got enough fuel to get to PH at normal speed (still in the off-map holding box). There were other TFs using that route too so I figure the AI must allow a chance of one of them transferring fuel.[:)]

I have one TF that has plenty of fuel but just one escort that is out. It won't refuel from the other ships, so they're moving at a snail's pace through the wormhole. Hope it decides to allow it to refuel soon. I'd kinda like to use what's on it!
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[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]OZ:[/font] Made a few mistakes with off-map TFs. While they can travel at flank between off map bases, anything heading to on-map uses fuel, which sucks! I didn't know there was a difference, and two TFs get the shaft when the escorts run out of fuel. One is moving at 2 hexes a day now and will be on map in 73 days! [8|]




Made the same damn mistake, LOL. Turn them around. Takes less time to get back to Cape Town and refuel. Maybe 30 days of misery... Those running to Bombay, I just keep some large cargo ships hovering near their entry hex. Merge and refuel and you are back in business. And, don't use escorts. Have the escorts meet them at the map edge.

How many American base and engineer units have you moved from the US to India? I find that construction and engineer units are the Achilles Heel of the Indian Army. I usually send some base forces too due to the American air units sent to India.
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[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]OZ:[/font] Made a few mistakes with off-map TFs. While they can travel at flank between off map bases, anything heading to on-map uses fuel, which sucks! I didn't know there was a difference, and two TFs get the shaft when the escorts run out of fuel. One is moving at 2 hexes a day now and will be on map in 73 days! [8|]

Made the same damn mistake, LOL. Turn them around. Takes less time to get back to Cape Town and refuel. Maybe 30 days of misery... Those running to Bombay, I just keep some large cargo ships hovering near their entry hex. Merge and refuel and you are back in business. And, don't use escorts. Have the escorts meet them at the map edge.

How many American base and engineer units have you moved from the US to India? I find that construction and engineer units are the Achilles Heel of the Indian Army. I usually send some base forces too due to the American air units sent to India.

Can I turn them around safely? I'm terrified of heaving them stop forever in the hole! [:D]

Good plan for meeting at the map edge. Much better. Hard for OZ but easy for India with the ports at Dante and Socotra. I do have some long endurance cargoes waiting for the ones now.

Some of the base forces and engineer units are on one of these damn TFs! I've moved a few, and now that they're coming faster there will be more. There are some good US base forces there already as well, under the China Air Task Force HQ.


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Well, apparently I didn't have to turn the TF around with the out of fuel escort. It filled up after 4-5 turns and now is good to go. I was worried as this has two base forces, the US marine paras, and one AA unit, all of which I really need in India now, not in two months. Should make it now in 12 days! [:)]

I also turned one around that had come to Cape Town, which was it's home port, and then turned around and tried to go back to Balboa! Hope nothing weird happens with that one. Such a game within the game managing this off-map stuff. Against the AI in my other Allied games I never had to worry about it much, or try to optimize arrival times. Just sent them and forgot them until they arrived. Now I'm checking the portals daily! Feel like I'm developing late-onset OCD. [:D]
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Embrace your inner OCD-ness. You will need it from late 43 and beyond when the Allied steamroller gets moving. SL make it more necessary.
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