Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

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1.18-FIX
http://my-files.ru/qsp407


couple of bugs
ID - 10402 wrong photo
ID - 15515 not in the localization file
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

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I can not get in touch with Karaganov

Please guys
give me a link to - New Scenarios 1.14
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I can not get in touch with Karaganov

Please guys
give me a link to - New Scenarios 1.14

I sent
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

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1.18-FIX
http://my-files.ru/qsp407


couple of bugs
ID - 10402 wrong photo
ID - 15515 not in the localization file



Hungarian Bicycle Infantry - wrong max strength
Slovak Infantry - wrong max strength
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

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1.18-FIX
http://my-files.ru/qsp407


couple of bugs
ID - 10402 wrong photo
ID - 15515 not in the localization file



Hungarian Bicycle Infantry - wrong max strength
Slovak Infantry - wrong max strength

Well thank you! We will fix this in the following fixes.
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

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Brazenman
I need a complete list of Soviet planes, which are not included in the packet of H.Balck.
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

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Brazenman
I need a complete list of Soviet planes, which are not included in the packet of H.Balck.


Polikarpov I-15BIS (available from 1937)
Polikarpov I-153 (available from 1939)
Lavochkin La-5F (available from December 1942)
Lavochkin La-5FN (available from March 1943)
Yakovlev Yak-1B (available from September 1942)
Yakovlev Yak-3 (available from March 1944)
Yakovlev Yak-7 (available from September 1941)
Yakovlev Yak-9D (available from March 1943)
Yakovlev Yak-9U (available from April 1944)
Hurricane Mk.II (lend-lease, available from October 1941)
P-40 Kittyhawk or Tomahawk (lend-lease, available from November 1941)
Spitfire Mk.V (lend-lease, available from March 1943)
Spitfire Mk.IX (lend-lease, available from June 1944)
P-47 Thunderbolt (lend-lease, available from September 1944)
P-63 Kingcobra (lend-lease, available from June 1944)
Beriev MBR-2 (available from 1934)
Polikarpov R-Z (available from 1935)
Iljushin Il-2M3 Shturmovik (available from February 1943)
Iljushin Il-10 Shturmovik (available from February 1945)
Petlyakov Pe-3 (available from September 1941)
Tupolev Tu-2 (available from November 1942)
B-25C Mitchell (lend-lease, available from June 1942)
A-20G Boston (lend-lease, available from June 1943)
Yermolayev Yer-2 (available from August 1941)



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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

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Good
Thanks, Brazenman

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I added Hungary and Slovak

That's cool
But it would be nice if you will be able to add a couple of artillery units for Hungarian army

Please, make a list of the missing Hungarian units

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

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Please, make a list of the missing Hungarian units
They probably need to have a heavy artillery. Something in the 150mm range. According to this forum they used the 15-cm 31M howitzer (Bofors license, L/24):
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 8#p1310568
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 7#p1323207
As you can see through that thread, they used alot the Pavesi tractor to tow their guns.

Just to be clear, I will not assemble 20 unit cards for the hungarian artillery. :D
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Please, make a list of the missing Hungarian units
They probably need to have a heavy artillery. Something in the 150mm range. According to this forum they used the 15-cm 31M howitzer (Bofors license, L/24):
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 8#p1310568
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 7#p1323207
As you can see through that thread, they used alot the Pavesi tractor to tow their guns.

Just to be clear, I will not assemble 20 unit cards for the hungarian artillery. :D

Yes you are right
heavy artillery primarily

But I think it would be nice if we will be have some more new units for Hungary and Romania.

Hungarian Mnt Infantry
Hungarian Light Tank Toldi II
Hungarian Medium Tank Turan II
Hungarian Motorcyclists
Hungarian 149mm Field Howitzer M14/39
Hungarian 150-mm Gun/Howitzer 31M (Bofors)
Hungarian 20mm Flak 33.M Madsen
Hungarian Mule Transport
Romanian Kfz 15 Horch
Romanian OA vz. 30
Romanian 120mm Mortar M1942 Resita
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Hungarian Mnt Infantry
I`m a bit fuzzy on their mountain infantry. Do you have any links to articles and pictures?
Romanian OA vz. 30
One company with 3 OA vz. 27s and 9 OA vz.30s retreated to Romania in March 1939. There`s no evidence (that I know of) that they were ever used on the frontline and there are just some pictures with the aftermath of a bombing (I think american) towards the end of the war showing one of them destroyed near some industrial facility iirc. This may mean that they were used as guard vehicles inside the country or simply that they were parked there. I`m not against having it, but I`m not sure it`s worth the trouble.
Romanian 120mm Mortar M1942 Resita
This is basically the copy of the Soviet 120 mm PM-38 mortar. I`m not sure if we have this already, but if we do it would not be hard to make.
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Hungarian Mnt Infantry
I`m a bit fuzzy on their mountain infantry. Do you have any links to articles and pictures?


Hungarian mountain rangers
http://uniforma-army.ru/hungary-1926.php
Laszlo «A Magyar Kiralyi Honvedseg egyenruhai 1926-1945»

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

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Romanian OA vz. 30
One company with 3 OA vz. 27s and 9 OA vz.30s retreated to Romania in March 1939. There`s no evidence (that I know of) that they were ever used on the frontline and there are just some pictures with the aftermath of a bombing (I think american) towards the end of the war showing one of them destroyed near some industrial facility iirc. This may mean that they were used as guard vehicles inside the country or simply that they were parked there. I`m not against having it, but I`m not sure it`s worth the trouble.


In this case, we can add for Romanian army - ADGZ or BA-20
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

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In this case, we can add for Romanian army - ADGZ or BA-20
I`m actually curious where you pulled the ADGZ from. It is really unclear if Romania put any of the captured Soviet cars into service, how many if so and of what type. Generally it`s just speculation.

In terms of reconnaissance, up to Stalingrad you only have the R-1 tankette used by the recon units of the cavalry divisions. Then 10 SdKfz 222 were delivered in December 1942 and a few others were captured when Romania switched sides in august 1944. That`s about it in terms of armoured cars used on the frontline.

There`s also a discussion of about a dozen Italian made AB 41 which were taken into service after the Italian armistice, but that subject is controversial:
http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php ... autoblinda#
It may very well be that confusion appeared from the fact that Romania named all its armoured cars AB (autoblindat=armoured car), without this having any connection to the Italian Autoblinda. To my knowledge there`s no photo showing them in Romanian service.

Bottom line, you either accept that scouting was done either by cavalry, R-1 and motorcyclists up to Stalingrad or you have to create some "what-if" units.
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

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OK
thank you, guys

at the moment we get the following

Italian Landing Craft
Romanian Landing Craft
Finnish Landing Craft

Polikarpov I-15BIS
Lavochkin La-5F
Lavochkin La-5FN
Yakovlev Yak-1B
Yakovlev Yak-3
Yakovlev Yak-7
Yakovlev Yak-9D
Yakovlev Yak-9U
Hurricane Mk.II
P-40 Kittyhawk
Spitfire Mk.V
Spitfire Mk.IX
P-47 Thunderbolt
Beriev MBR-2
Polikarpov R-Z
Iljushin Il-2M3 Shturmovik
Iljushin Il-10 Shturmovik
Petlyakov Pe-3
Tupolev Tu-2
B-25C Mitchell
A-20G Boston
Yermolayev Yer-2

Japanese Armoured Train
Soviet M16 MGMC (AA and AT mode)
Soviet KV-2 (Art and AT mode)
Soviet Anti-Tank Infantry
Soviet IS-3
Finnish Small Horse Transport
Finnish T-20 Komsomolets
Finnish Raupenschlepper Ost
Hungarian Mnt Infantry
Hungarian Medium Tank Turan II
Hungarian Motorcyclists
Hungarian 149mm Field Howitzer M14/39
Hungarian 20mm Flak 33.M Madsen
Hungarian Mule Transport
Romanian Infantry (green)
Romanian 120mm Mortar M1942 Resita
Romanian Kfz 15 Horch
Italian 508CM Coloniale (Staff Car)
Italian Dismounted Motorcyclists - Bersaglieri
Italian M43 da 105/25 (Art and AT mode)
Italian 90/53 m41C (AA and AT mode)
Italian Fiat 708C
Italian Breda 61

German Destroyer
German River Boat
German Armoured Boat
German Submarine
Soviet Battleship
Soviet Cruiser
Soviet Destroyer Leader
Soviet Destroyer
Soviet Guard Ship
Soviet Submarine
Romanian Destroyer
Romanian Armoured Boat
Romanian River Boat
Romanian Submarine
Finnish Coastal Defence Ship
Finnish Destroyer
Finnish Armoured Boat
Finnish River Boat
Finnish Submarine
Italian Destroyer
Italian Armoured Boat
Italian Submarine
Japan Light Cruiser
Japan Destroyer
Japan Armoured Boat
Japan River Boat
Japan Submarine

Italian MC.200 Saetta
Italian Re.2000
Italian Bf 109G
Italian Caproni Ca.311
Italian SM.81 Pipistrello
Italian Z.1007 Alcione
Italian Ju-87B

But, it is preliminary version
we have time to discuss this list
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

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I very much hope that someone of you will make a small list of units for the Polish divisions in the Red Army
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

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Italian Bf 109K
I was under the impression that up to the armistice the Italians only had the Bf 109G. Unless you have better sources for significant numbers of Italian Bf 109K you could drop this and free the space for something else.

For example an Italian Ju-87B (German camouflage with Italian markings)
http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/air ... taly_1.jpg
http://worldatwar.net/chandelle/v3/v3n3 ... stuka.html

Btw, what do the "Armoured Boats" from above represent? Could you give an example of a class or individual ship?
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

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Armoured Boats (guard-boats, frigates, corvettes)
River Boats (cannon boats, gunboats, river monitors)
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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

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Ok, if H.Balck intends to make something that resemble actual ships here are some links that show both pictures and plans:

Romanian submarine (Delfinul was the only active one up to the spring of 1944):
http://romaniaforum.info/board3-marina- ... aro-fiume/

Romanian destroyer (R-class/Regele Ferdinand class - one of the two classes used in ww2):
http://romaniaforum.info/board3-marina- ... -pattison/

Romanian Gunboat (ex-Friponne class):
http://romaniaforum.info/board3-marina- ... i%C3%A8ge/

Romanian River Monitor (Romania had 7 of these active on the Danube); Here`s the main, Brătianu-class:
http://romaniaforum.info/board3-marina- ... -monitors/

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RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

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I do not think we need so many Italian planes.

On the eastern front, acted MC.200 Saetta, MC.202 Folgore, Br.20 Cicogna, Caproni Ca.311 and, perhaps SM.81 Pipistrello

this will be enough, in my opinion
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