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Nagoya rotation of big units, and breaking down in splinters to recover, seems to be working well.

I wish I could figure out a way for the Artillery to recover a bit.

Armor is in great shape, 0 disruption.

600 AV roughly in reserve mode no pursuit mode.

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August 8,1944



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B29s hit lots of ships, but nothing sinks.

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The defense crumbles.

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Air losses. 4Es raid Yokohama, site of the greatest AA concentration and barely a scratch on the Allied bombers.



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Air losses. 4Es raid Yokohama, site of the greatest AA concentration and barely a scratch on the Allied bombers.



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One can only hope they need to repair for a while.

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That is a concern. I take it the Yokohama base force has had it's TOE upgrade?

If so, that's 90 odd 12.7cm DP guns firing that didn't manage to destroy a plane outright, let alone what other AA units were in the hex. Considering the 12.7cm DP is one of the (if not the best) Japanese flak device, that has me worried. At 7000ft even the 8cm flak pop-guns should have been having a go...

Granted, nearly 10% of the raid suffered damage, but not a single outright loss to flak?
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That is a concern. I take it the Yokohama base force has had it's TOE upgrade?

If so, that's 90 odd 12.7cm DP guns firing that didn't manage to destroy a plane outright, let alone what other AA units were in the hex. Considering the 12.7cm DP is one of the (if not the best) Japanese flak device, that has me worried. At 7000ft even the 8cm flak pop-guns should have been having a go...

Granted, nearly 10% of the raid suffered damage, but not a single outright loss to flak?


Not very pleasant eh?
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ORIGINAL: mind_messing

That is a concern. I take it the Yokohama base force has had it's TOE upgrade?

If so, that's 90 odd 12.7cm DP guns firing that didn't manage to destroy a plane outright, let alone what other AA units were in the hex. Considering the 12.7cm DP is one of the (if not the best) Japanese flak device, that has me worried. At 7000ft even the 8cm flak pop-guns should have been having a go...

Granted, nearly 10% of the raid suffered damage, but not a single outright loss to flak?


Not very pleasant eh?

This seems not quite right. I can't remember now completely but I'm pretty sure either Yokohama or Hiroshima was hit in my game and the AA did some damage.

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ORIGINAL: obvert

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

ORIGINAL: mind_messing

That is a concern. I take it the Yokohama base force has had it's TOE upgrade?

If so, that's 90 odd 12.7cm DP guns firing that didn't manage to destroy a plane outright, let alone what other AA units were in the hex. Considering the 12.7cm DP is one of the (if not the best) Japanese flak device, that has me worried. At 7000ft even the 8cm flak pop-guns should have been having a go...

Granted, nearly 10% of the raid suffered damage, but not a single outright loss to flak?


Not very pleasant eh?

This seems not quite right. I can't remember now completely but I'm pretty sure either Yokohama or Hiroshima was hit in my game and the AA did some damage.

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Luck? Morale/disruption/supply factors?
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My B-29s take plenty of damage from flak at 10,000 ft.
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Cigar-chomping Curtis LeMay sent B-29s in at 6,000 feet for the night firebombing missions since there was a gap in AA coverage there. I'm not at home (thus can't check the database), but wouldn't 127mm and possibly even 80mm not be able to fire as low as 7,000 feet?

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Just poor results. Good commander, morale, supply, plentiful guns,no disruption, no fatigue, etc.

Just tough planes with very good pilots.
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Aug9,1944

Allies bomb and bombard at will, basically.

Pakhoi gets some attention today, and the Coast of China, with about 600 AV in all port hexes is really wide open to invasion and rolling bombardments.

No real idea on how to defend, especially with supply routines failing. Even though I have lots of fuel in China, China HI is constantly failing. Supply simply not traveling from Manchuko to the west.

I need to buy time...rest of Aug, September, October, November and December. Seems monumental at times.

I have a nice 20K supply convoy at sea in the SRA, but how to get it to China?

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Should be able to hold Vinh for a while. Not long, since it will be bombed and bombarded into the stone age, but forts 5 should help.



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Nagoya:

Due to the heavy naval bombardments, I have had to move out a lot of Eng unit which had been devastated. Daily bombardments were destroying 50+ devices, destroyed the static units, and can destroy a fresh artillery unit in 2 days.

However the armor remains untouched by the naval bombardments, and my infantry remains pretty well sheltered except for a sacrificial division (which rotates each day).

But the lack now of artillery, engineers and AA has me really worried.

I tried putting them in reserve status, but there is no place to hide from naval bombardments if you are a engineer or artillery unit. The only hope is to have enough units to disperse the bombardments across many and then rotate them in and out as they become heavily disabled.

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Aug 10 1944

Lost a big AO today, sitting in port at Ternate to a B29 strike.

Lost 18 Judies trying to hit some destroyers. Lost 20 A6M5c and 5 Georges to a large carrier born sweep of 100+ corsairs.

Allies clean up in Vietnam.

Japan goes CV hunting in the Yellow Sea...
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Aug 11, 1944

The Day Nagoya fell?

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Here they come...

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