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Los Angeles has been passing bond measures to raise property and sales taxes and lavishing spending on the homeless. They have burned through quite a large reserve. California is ALREADY borrowing money from DC to pay unemployment costs after budgeting enough reserves for 18 months of standard recession job losses. It's all gone already. A Kapuchin monkey could have found a job in Calif in February. Maybe they can get all the homeless to move to Arizona?

All of this borrowing and reserve spending means leaner times ahead. The hospitals are getting knee-capped by the decline in total admissions. Nurses in non-ICU positions getting laid off...even obstetrics..which seems crazy because babies don't look at the calendar or watch the news.
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Coronavirus found in semen of male coronavirus patients, Chinese researchers say
52 mins ago

https://www.foxnews.com/science/coronav ... esearchers


"The novel coronavirus has been discovered in the semen of infected male individuals, according to Chinese researchers, potentially raising the prospect that the virus could potentially be sexually transmitted.

However, the study also raises questions: It doesn’t explain how much viral load was present in the sperm, nor does it examine whether or not the virus could be transmitted through sexual activity."






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Los Angeles has been passing bond measures to raise property and sales taxes and lavishing spending on the homeless. They have burned through quite a large reserve. California is ALREADY borrowing money from DC to pay unemployment costs after budgeting enough reserves for 18 months of standard recession job losses. It's all gone already. A Kapuchin monkey could have found a job in Calif in February. Maybe they can get all the homeless to move to Arizona?

All of this borrowing and reserve spending means leaner times ahead. The hospitals are getting knee-capped by the decline in total admissions. Nurses in non-ICU positions getting laid off...even obstetrics..which seems crazy because babies don't look at the calendar or watch the news.

From the UK, for profit healthcare seems an unusual concept and not often seen.

What you've outlined just seems that it's jumped the shark...
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This means that heavy breathing might not only be a symptom of COVID but a cause as well.


Same thing with Zika. Men are just beasts. There is no point in arguing it.
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Coronavirus in Brazil: risk of "economic collapse" (Minister) - France 24
5/7/2020,



http://www.tellerreport.com/news/2020-0 ... R-z5U.html


"Brazil could be faced in a month with a "collapse of (its) economy", with food shortages, and a "disintegration" social, warned Thursday the Minister of Economy Paulo Guedes, a few weeks before the peak of the coronavirus.

"The alert is serious", said the minister: so far "the people have money in hand", but "in 30 days it could be that things start to run out on the shelves (des stores), that production be disorganized and that we enter a system not only of economic collapse but of social disintegration, "he warned."






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Los Angeles has been passing bond measures to raise property and sales taxes and lavishing spending on the homeless. They have burned through quite a large reserve. California is ALREADY borrowing money from DC to pay unemployment costs after budgeting enough reserves for 18 months of standard recession job losses. It's all gone already. A Kapuchin monkey could have found a job in Calif in February. Maybe they can get all the homeless to move to Arizona?

All of this borrowing and reserve spending means leaner times ahead. The hospitals are getting knee-capped by the decline in total admissions. Nurses in non-ICU positions getting laid off...even obstetrics..which seems crazy because babies don't look at the calendar or watch the news.

From the UK, for profit healthcare seems an unusual concept and not often seen.

What you've outlined just seems that it's jumped the shark...

This applies to not-for-profit hospitals as well, of which there are many. They still have to meet budgets. I think you will discover than NHS is spending prodigiously right now....plus all the elective cases are being postponed and the seniors not taken by COVID will be wanting their bad knees replaced.
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Joblessness mounts across New York
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https://www.mpnnow.com/news/20200507/jo ... s-new-york



"The unemployment rate in the state may rise to near-Depression levels"

"Most recent numbers released by the state Department of Labor indicate 1.84 million residents filed initial jobless claims in the eight weeks since March 14.

The most recent total represents an increase of 198,000 over the previous week. Statewide, the labor force was measured at 9.44 million in March.

Across the nation, only California has had more people — 4.83 million — make first-time claims.

Labor specialists, assessing jobless claims numbers since mid-March, are predicting a New York jobless rate of 13% for April, and that may be a conservative estimate."






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Los Angeles has been passing bond measures to raise property and sales taxes and lavishing spending on the homeless. They have burned through quite a large reserve. California is ALREADY borrowing money from DC to pay unemployment costs after budgeting enough reserves for 18 months of standard recession job losses. It's all gone already. A Kapuchin monkey could have found a job in Calif in February. Maybe they can get all the homeless to move to Arizona?

All of this borrowing and reserve spending means leaner times ahead. The hospitals are getting knee-capped by the decline in total admissions. Nurses in non-ICU positions getting laid off...even obstetrics..which seems crazy because babies don't look at the calendar or watch the news.

From the UK, for profit healthcare seems an unusual concept and not often seen.

What you've outlined just seems that it's jumped the shark...

This applies to not-for-profit hospitals as well, of which there are many. They still have to meet budgets. I think you will discover than NHS is spending prodigiously right now....plus all the elective cases are being postponed and the seniors not taken by COVID will be wanting their bad knees replaced.

Yes, but medical staff are not being asked to pack their stuff and be out by the end of the day...
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Coronavirus: China could cut US debt holdings in response to White House Covid-19 compensation threats, analysts say
08-May-2020 South China Morning Post


https://www.intellasia.net/coronavirus- ... say-779006


"China may move to reduce its vast holdings of US Treasury securities in the coming months in response to a resurgence in trade tensions and a war of words between the world’s two largest economies over the origins and handling of the coronavirus outbreak, analysts said"

"That, in turn, could spell trouble for the US government bond market at a time when Washington is significantly ramping up new issuance to pay for a series of programmes to combat the pandemic and the economic damage it is causing."



"“Its ‘I die, you die harder’,” Chin said. “With no US export market, China would go the other way and rely on internal consumption, trade with Belt and Road countries and the rest of the world in their local currencies, and prepare to ‘eat bitter’ as local conditions worsen.”"






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From the UK, for profit healthcare seems an unusual concept and not often seen.

What you've outlined just seems that it's jumped the shark...

This applies to not-for-profit hospitals as well, of which there are many. They still have to meet budgets. I think you will discover than NHS is spending prodigiously right now....plus all the elective cases are being postponed and the seniors not taken by COVID will be wanting their bad knees replaced.

Yes, but medical staff are not being asked to pack their stuff and be out by the end of the day...

In other words, they are being paid to do nothing. [:)] Now, if they can float to help in the ICU that is different. The OR staffs are highly trained and are mostly doing nothing. Ditto cath labs.

Unemployment is tied to pre-layoff pay...not 1 to 1..but not catastrophic either. Even so, it is stressful and bad for morale.
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Coronavirus: China could cut US debt holdings in response to White House Covid-19 compensation threats, analysts say
08-May-2020 South China Morning Post


https://www.intellasia.net/coronavirus- ... say-779006


"China may move to reduce its vast holdings of US Treasury securities in the coming months in response to a resurgence in trade tensions and a war of words between the world’s two largest economies over the origins and handling of the coronavirus outbreak, analysts said"

"That, in turn, could spell trouble for the US government bond market at a time when Washington is significantly ramping up new issuance to pay for a series of programmes to combat the pandemic and the economic damage it is causing."



"“Its ‘I die, you die harder’,” Chin said. “With no US export market, China would go the other way and rely on internal consumption, trade with Belt and Road countries and the rest of the world in their local currencies, and prepare to ‘eat bitter’ as local conditions worsen.”"

That just means they have to SELL T-bills. [:D] Not much of a threat. They will lose big on that and that will depress US borrowing costs even more.
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Nearly 20K Georgia Teens Have Gotten Their Driver’s License — Without Taking a Road Test
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nearl ... li=BBnb7Kz


"Nearly 20,000 Georgia teenagers are now able to legally get behind the wheel of a car without ever having had a road test, according to CNN."


"The upgrades come following an April 23 order issued by Kemp that waived the requirement for most road tests until the public state of emergency due to the coronavirus was over."






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This applies to not-for-profit hospitals as well, of which there are many. They still have to meet budgets. I think you will discover than NHS is spending prodigiously right now....plus all the elective cases are being postponed and the seniors not taken by COVID will be wanting their bad knees replaced.

Yes, but medical staff are not being asked to pack their stuff and be out by the end of the day...

In other words, they are being paid to do nothing. Now, if they can float to help in the ICU that is different. The OR staffs are highly trained and are mostly doing nothing. Ditto cath labs.

Yes, but they're there. If we decide tomorrow to start doing hip replacements, there's not a scramble to try and re-hire staff.

It strikes me as a decision that is sensible in the short term but will have serious consequences in the medium and long term...
Unemployment is tied to pre-layoff pay...not 1 to 1..but not catastrophic either. Even so, it is stressful and bad for morale.

Indeed. But hey, the bottom line is going to look better, so that makes it all okay I suppose?

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Lots of news today about things reopening. Definitely big changes across the country except in the hardest hit regions, where it's a different ballgame.
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I think that is very unfair. To blame a dead ex-President for the problems with New York nursing homes is wrong and I'm sure Mr Truman didn't mean to imply he would take responsibility for that......
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Well at least you and HansBolter saw the funny side... I guess everyone's sense of humour is different [:)]

If you wanted me to think that you were jesting, you could have used an emoji.
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Coronavirus found in semen of male coronavirus patients, Chinese researchers say
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https://www.foxnews.com/science/coronav ... esearchers

"The novel coronavirus has been discovered in the semen of infected male individuals, according to Chinese researchers, potentially raising the prospect that the virus could potentially be sexually transmitted.

However, the study also raises questions: It doesn’t explain how much viral load was present in the sperm, nor does it examine whether or not the virus could be transmitted through sexual activity."

So aside from causing the Egyptian Flu, it could also cause COVID-19. [:(]
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This applies to not-for-profit hospitals as well, of which there are many. They still have to meet budgets. I think you will discover than NHS is spending prodigiously right now....plus all the elective cases are being postponed and the seniors not taken by COVID will be wanting their bad knees replaced.

Yes, but medical staff are not being asked to pack their stuff and be out by the end of the day...

In other words, they are being paid to do nothing. [:)] Now, if they can float to help in the ICU that is different. The OR staffs are highly trained and are mostly doing nothing. Ditto cath labs.

Unemployment is tied to pre-layoff pay...not 1 to 1..but not catastrophic either. Even so, it is stressful and bad for morale.

The problem is that a lot of skill sets, if not used nor practiced, can be lost. So by not doing these procedures, those skill sets diminish and that can lead to problems.
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I believe I found the owner of the worldometer website. I am looking for more confirmations, so far I have two but they site the same source.

https://dadax.cn/en/about-dadax/

which is far different than their website says...I don't know where the truth lies, probably somewhere between?

Worldometer is run by an international team of developers, researchers, and volunteers with the goal of making world statistics available in a thought-provoking and time relevant format to a wide audience around the world. It is published by a small and independent digital media company based in the United States. We have no political, governmental, or corporate affiliation. Furthermore, we have no investors, donors, grants, or backers of any type. We are completely independent and self-financed through automated programmatic advertising sold in real time on multiple ad exchanges.

I am just not sure I can trust this:

Worldometer,[2] formerly Worldometers (plural), is a reference website that provides counters and real-time statistics for diverse topics. It is owned and operated by data company Dadax[3][4] which generates revenue through online advertising.[5]

Worldometer might be published in the United States, but from that link:

Dadax, [‘dɑ:dɑ:ks], was founded in 2016, it’s located in Lin’gang, the most southeastern of Shanghai.

So we know that there is absolutely NO [;)] National government influence on it. [X(]
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Yes, but they're there. If we decide tomorrow to start doing hip replacements, there's not a scramble to try and re-hire staff.

It strikes me as a decision that is sensible in the short term but will have serious consequences in the medium and long term...
Unemployment is tied to pre-layoff pay...not 1 to 1..but not catastrophic either. Even so, it is stressful and bad for morale.

Indeed. But hey, the bottom line is going to look better, so that makes it all okay I suppose?


Well, except that most are still "employed" and are still getting company supplied health care coverage and even a 401K (retirement plan) so there is no "rehire". All there is a phone call. Ask yourself if the taxpayers of Britain are going to pay idle NHS workers indefinitely? A bottom-line system is more agile. Mock it if you wish but the employers FUND the unemployment insurance system.
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Tell Congress the American People need The Emergency Money for the People Act to pass.
Created by M.J. on April 15, 2020


https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... e-act-pass


37,571 signed
100,000 goal

Needs 62,429 signatures by May 15, 2020 to get a response from the White House


"The Emergency Money for the People Act expands relief to more Americans and includes a $2,000 monthly payment to every qualifying American over the age of 16 until employment returns to pre-COVID-19 levels. It also fixes a bug in the CARES Act to ensure college students and adults with disabilities can still receive the payments even if claimed as a dependent."






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