Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[Parel803]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, L V Rabhi (Comoran) class, 310, Large Patrol craft (PBO), Morocco Navy</summary>
<detail> Bazan, Spain build, 6 units in class. Commisioned in 1988/1989.
JFS13/14:
Displacement 432 full, Length 58.1, Beam 7.6, Draft 2.7
Speed max 22, Range 6100 at 12, Crew 36 + 15 beds extra
Machinery 2 MTU-Bazan 16V 956 TB82 diesels 8340 hp(m)(6.13MW) sustained, 2 shafts
Guns 1x Bofors 40mm/70. 1x Oerlikon 20mm/90 twin
Radar SS I-band Racal Decca nav
far-maroc forum gives + CSEE Lynx optronic director
WFT states 6 units active
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.seaforces.org/marint/Morocc ... -class.htm data on class
https://www.navypedia.org/ships/morocco ... _rabhi.htm data on class
https://far-maroc.forumpro.fr/t3260p240 ... -marocaine Data & images
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/pho ... id=1358403 image
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/pho ... id=2082819 image
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

[Parel803]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Bird class, 323, Patrol (PBO), Morocco Navy</summary>
<detail>ex-Cygnet, ex-P261. Commisioned in 1976 and transferred in 1997 to a private buyer, confiscated by the Moroccan navy (no date).
In DB #1526 Redpole, Bird class.
JFS13/14:
Displacement 197 full, Length 36.6, Beam 7.2, Draft 2
Speed max 21, Range 2000 at 14, Crew 14
Machinery 2 Paxman 16YJCM diesels 4200 hp(3.1MW), 2 shafts
Guns 1x 12.7 mm MG, Radar I-band nav radar
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.navypedia.org/ships/morocco/mo_cf_323.htm data on unit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird-class_patrol_vessel general info on class
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

[SeaQueen]

I think I may have found an error in DBID #3152, CG 62 Chancellorsville [Ticonderoga Baseline 4]. There appears to be multiple redundant copies of the RIM-174A SM-6 ERAM Blk IA weapon records on both of the VLS mounts. Suspect the intention was to add a weapon record for the Blk IB SM-6? Should be an easy fix.

[14yellow14]

<type>Add</type>
<summary>ADD US Army high altitude ballons as sensors </summary>
<detail>

The U.S. Army is now carving out a path to field high-altitude balloons to provide an additional but less expensive layer of communications, connectivity, range extension and surveillance capabilities

SMDC has been working on high-altitude balloons — basically dirigibles that can camp out roughly 60,000-90,000 feet in the air

U.S. Army Europe and Africa’s first Multidomain Task Force was activated on Sept. 16, but the new unit has already cut its teeth in the theater at a long-range, precision-fires exercise in Norway, where officials experimented with high-altitude balloons for targeting

It could also have other uses such as decoys, EW, or high-altitude drone launchers.

</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.defensenews.com/digital-sho ... in-norway/
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... e-balloons
https://www.defensenews.com/digital-sho ... -balloons/
https://ipdefenseforum.com/2020/06/futu ... echnology/
</evidence>


Thanks!

[tylerblakebrandon]

ORIGINAL: SeaQueen

I think I may have found an error in DBID #3152, CG 62 Chancellorsville [Ticonderoga Baseline 4]. There appears to be multiple redundant copies of the RIM-174A SM-6 ERAM Blk IA weapon records on both of the VLS mounts. Suspect the intention was to add a weapon record for the Blk IB SM-6? Should be an easy fix.

ords on both of the VLS mounts. Suspect the intention was to ad

I have noticed most of the TICO VLS variants have SM-6's by default prior to when they should including the 80's entries. I think some of the VLS Spru-cans may also be packing SM-6.

[KLAB]

https://twitter.com/louischeung_hk/stat ... 77858?s=20
The PRC Z-15 has a distinct resemblance to the AW.149/189 too?

ORIGINAL: KLAB

<type>New</type>
<summary>AW189 SAR Helicopter (Commercial/Civilian) 2013</summary>
<detail>The Agusta Westland AW189 commercial helicopter is the civil version of the AW149 which is in the running for the UK New Medium Helicopter (Puma HC2, Griffin HAR2, Bell 212 and AS365 Dauphin II replacement) requirement and is being put to use for parapublic commercial SAR in the UK via Bristow for HMCG and in the AW149 for other militaries. Egypt and Thailand are using the AW149 version primarily for transport but also SAR. Egypt has ordered 8 x AW189 for SAR. Having the AW189 commercial version will provide a useful platform in its own right and a template for what will probably be a significant type in the near term for other military tier 1 users.
Loadouts
Passengers x 12 Troops (16 civil passengers)
SAR with FLIR EO turret NVG's Satcomm and Searchlight.
Cargo 0.8 tonne.
</detail>
<evidence>
Hat in the Ring pp44 October 21 Airforces Monthly. Issue 403.
"AgustaWestland AW149 - Wikipedia" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AgustaWestland_AW149
https://www.leonardocompany.com/en/prod ... aign=AW149
https://www.leonardocompany.com/en/prod ... commercial


The companies product page pretty much covers the stats and performance, details of the specific sensors for the military types will no doubt emerge in due course but the basic airframe is well documented.
</evidence>
For consideration
K

[BDukes]

ORIGINAL: tylerblakebrandon

ORIGINAL: SeaQueen

I think I may have found an error in DBID #3152, CG 62 Chancellorsville [Ticonderoga Baseline 4]. There appears to be multiple redundant copies of the RIM-174A SM-6 ERAM Blk IA weapon records on both of the VLS mounts. Suspect the intention was to add a weapon record for the Blk IB SM-6? Should be an easy fix.

ords on both of the VLS mounts. Suspect the intention was to ad

I have noticed most of the TICO VLS variants have SM-6's by default prior to when they should including the 80's entries. I think some of the VLS Spru-cans may also be packing SM-6.

Looks like somebody copied an existing unit then altered the VLS mount not realizing they needed to copy that and then alter it.

Mike

[Blast33]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Please add MDBA PGM-2000 to DB#1071 and #3547 the F-16E?F of the UAE</summary>
<detail>The F-16F of the UAE is equiped with the rocket powered PGMs. Four can be carried by the plane.
It is called Hakim of Al Hakeem-B locally.

Characteristics of PGM 2000 (laser),PGM 2000 (TV),PGM 2000 (IIR)
Weight 1.060 kg
Length 4.623 mm
Diameter 457 mm
Guidance:laser, TV or IIR
Warhead:2000 lb blast fragmentation warhead
Detonation control:2 options: impact or proximity
Precision on target:+/- 1 meter
Range: low-altitude release: 15 km
medium-altitude release:up to 30 km
high-altitude release:over 50 km

The Al Hakim is a short-range, solid propellant, air-launched stand-off air-to-surface weapon developed in the early 1980s by Ferranti (subsequently taken over by GEC-Marconi-Dynamics which, in turn, became part of MBDA), and was funded by the UAE. A new weapon was required because the USA was unwilling to integrate certain classes of weapon on aircraft that it supplied to certain Arab nations, to avoid upsetting particular regional sensitivities.

Al Hakim is totally modular and features a variety of guidance systems. It is available with two warhead weights and was once intended to use a variety of warhead types.
As delivered to the UAE Air Force and Air Defence, the weapon has three interchangeable seeker types. The PGM1 is a semi-active laser seeker, the PGM2 a television imaging seeker, and the PGM3 an imaging infra-red (IIR) seeker. These seekers ensure that the weapon is fully operational 24 hours a day, even in poor weather conditions. All three seekers use the same operator/control interface, which minimises the impact on pilot training requirements.

The laser seeker is compatible with all standard ground and airborne laser designators, while the TV and IIR seekers can send post-launch images back to an aircraft more than 100km away right up to the point of impact. Alternatively, images can be relayed to a third-party aircraft or ground control centre – useful if the PGM’s mission is being managed remotely.

The Al Hakim missile can be pre-programmed, using a portable loading module before flight, allowing it to be used against pre-planned targets by aircraft that do not have a suitable on-board data link and which, therefore, cannot control the weapon in flight. Usually, though, the weapon can be updated at any time, allowing it to be used against targets of opportunity.

The pilot or off-board mission controller can regain man-in-the-loop (MITL) control from the PGM’s own automatic tracking system at any point in the mission to refine or optimise the aim point or even to attack alternative targets.
The weapon has blast fragmentation warheads of either 500lb or 2000lb. It has proven firing accuracies of less than 1m circle error probable (CEP) in service, and has selectable fusing options to allow it to detonate on impact or by proximity to the ground or the target.

At one time, it was thought that four warhead types were under development for the Al Hakim, including blast fragmentation, high-explosive, anti-tank, and area-denial (with minelets). The status of the other types is unknown.
The Al Hakim’s solid fuel booster rocket (two rockets in the case of the 2,000lb weapon) give it a stand-off range of 15km from a low-altitude release, up to 30km from a medium-altitude release and up to 50km from a high-altitude release.
The Al Hakim has been integrated on the Mirage 2000-9 and also on the F-16E/F, though it has not been used by the Desert Falcons during the Libyan operation.

The UAE Mirages usually carry a Thales Shehab laser designation pod when using Al Hakim.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.f-16.net/g3/f-16-photos/alb ... 2/3003_005 Sat image
https://armamentresearch.com/united-ara ... -in-yemen/
https://web.archive.org/web/20081224124 ... age_id=114
https://www.f-16.net/g3/f-16-photos/alb ... 2/3003_005
https://www.arabianaerospace.aero/uae-a ... libya.html
https://monch.com/ebooks/military-techn ... age41.html
Funny enough this weapon is on the photo in the CMO databasee of #3547 [8D]
</evidence>[/quote]

[Blast33]

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Please add GBU-31 to the DB#1071 and #3547 the F-16E/F of the UAE</summary>
<detail>The F-16E/F of the UAE is also equiped with the GBU-31.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/th ... eet-04538/
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=ht ... hPegQIARB3
https://www.airliners.net/photo/United- ... on/1684042
</evidence>

[14yellow14]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Please add AN/ALQ-248 AOEW pod to US Navy MH-60R/S</summary>
<detail>
Designed for integration on the MH-60R/MH-60S helicopters, the AN/ALQ-248 is a self-contained EW pod hosting both high sensitivity receiver and electronic attack subsystems.

Lockheed Martin has been funded by the US Navy (USN) to begin low-rate initial production (LRIP) of the Advanced Off-Board Electronic Warfare (AOEW) capability.

Under the AOEW programme, the company's Rotary and Mission Systems business is developing the podded AN/ALQ-248 AOEW Active Mission Payload (AMP) to provide USN battle groups with enhanced electronic surveillance and countermeasure capabilities against anti-ship missile threats. The AOEW AMP is planned for deployment on MH-60R and MH-60S shipborne helicopters.



</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/aoew ... roduction/
https://seapowermagazine.org/first-heli ... late-2019/
https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/ne ... reats.html

</evidence>

[MarkJoergensen]

<type>Correction/Update</type>
<summary> DB#2331 F 361 Iver Huitfeldt </summary>
<detail> Standard Loadout of Iver Huitfeldt is 1x 35mm Oerlikon, not two as it has in game.</detail>
<evidence> Danish wiki-page. SME's at the Danish Defence College. Cant post links yet <evidence>
<note> <note>

[14yellow14]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Please add GQM-163 COYOTE Supersonic sea-skimming target (US)</summary>
<detail>

GQM-163A is capable of Mach 2.5+ cruise velocity, 50 ft min alt, and peak velocity of Mach 2.8 in level flight, and Mach 4 in "high-diver" mode.

GQM-163A can be used as sea skimming target with terminal altitudes from 13.0 to 66.0 feet or as a diving target with a maximum altitude of 52,000 feet and diving angles between 15 and 55°.



Launcher:


</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.navair.navy.mil/product/GQM-163A
https://twitter.com/MIL_STD/status/1445198781134237699
</evidence>

Thanks!

[14yellow14]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>USS South Dakota SSN-790 (acoustic superiority)</summary>

<detail>

The Navy is building an upcoming Virginia-class attack submarine, the future USS South Dakota (SSN-790), with acoustic superiority features for the fleet to test out and ultimately include in both attack and ballistic missile submarines in the future.

Richard said the under-construction South Dakota will feature a large vertical array, a special coating and machinery quieting improvements inside the boat. The boat is on track to deliver early despite the changes, he said. Once South Dakota joins the fleet – in 2018, according to the boat’s commissioning committee – lessons learned from the acoustic superiority features will help inform enhancements built into future Virginia class boats and the Ohio Replacement Program boomers, as well as the legacy Ohio-class ballistic missile subs and some Virginia-class boats.




</detail>

<evidence>
https://news.usni.org/2016/03/28/submar ... l-concepts
https://twitter.com/lfx160219/status/13 ... 4297612291
<evidence>


Thanks!

[Coiler12]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>PLARB-941 Krasny Oktyabr Mod</summary>
<detail>

A very out-there hypothetical unit similar to the F-19 currently in the database. This is the infamous Red October from the book of the same name. [:'(]
-Compared with the real Typhoon, it has 26 SS-N-20 tubes instead of the 20 in the actual sub (pg. 111)

Ryan lifted a pointer. “In addition to being considerably larger than our own Ohio-class Trident submarines, Red October has a number of technical differences. She carries twenty-six missiles instead of our twenty-four. The earlier Typhoon-class vessels, from which she was developed, only have twenty.

-Dimensions 650 feet (198 meters)x 89 feet (25.9 meters), surfaced draft unknown, estimated standard displacement 32,000 tons (ibid). Bigger than the normal Typhoon.
-Actually has fewer torpedo tubes than the real Typhoon, only four. (pg. 55)

“Well, they can’t be torpedo tubes. They have the normal four of them at the bow

-And finally, the caterpillar drive, which should make the sub as quiet as a Borey II (Submarine #652) and give it the "Advanced Propulsor" and "Shrouded Propulsor" flags.
-Everything else (sensors, etc...), can be that of a regular Typhoon (Submarine #286).
</detail>

<evidence>
The Hunt For Red October novel
</evidence>

[14yellow14]

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Please update MRC battery (Facility_3362) </summary>
<detail>

An MRC battery will consist of 4 launchers based on the MK41 system with 4 cells each TEL.

The system will initially operate with SM-6 Block IA missiles (Block IB will not be available until 2025 at the earliest) and TLAM.

The MRC battery will not have any radar, it will rely on CEC capability (US Army IBCS) to perform defensive fires.




</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/lfx160219/status/14 ... 3674151940
https://twitter.com/masao_dahlgren/stat ... 8823657474
https://www.defensenews.com/land/2021/0 ... to-follow/

</evidence>

Thanks!

[Blast33]

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Please update Patriot launchers amount of missiles</summary>
<detail>
PATRIOT Advanced Capability (PAC-3) Family of Missiles. The PATRIOT launcher can carry 16 PAC-3 or 12 PAC-3 MSE interceptors. Additionally, it can carry a combination of 6 MSE and 8 PAC-3 rounds for a total of 14 interceptors. (image via Daniel Brown/BI)
PATRIOT can also mix & match the PAC-3 and MSE rounds with the legacy PAC-2 missile. The launcher can be configured for an eight missile configuration featuring 6 MSE rounds and 2 PAC-2 rounds, or 10 missile configuration featuring 8 PAC-3 rounds and 2 PAC-2 rounds. These are only maximum loadouts and combinations. They can also carry fewer interceptors.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/MIL_STD/status/1342554956541394944
https://twitter.com/MIL_STD/status/1342559041676070917
https://twitter.com/MIL_STD/status/1342567597167046658
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>Update</type>

<summary>SAAR 4.5 ASuW and ASW fixes and Updates</summary>

<detail> Collected all the SAAR 4.5 requests and added more details. Ships very modular but looks like ASW and versions of with Green Dragon or Hero 900 Loitering munitions could be added.

Base Hetz-Nirit versions #2498
Delete [6]Single Gabriel V launchers. Not in service with them yet (or at least no pictures)
Add different decoys-See Decoy launcher details below.

Add Nirit version with Green Dragon Mount [INS Nirit 2019]


Add ASW variants. Don't appear to Be STAR Alpha Upgraded
Remove aft deck gun. Add Mk-48 Mod 5 mounts and Aloff towed Sonar (ALOFT Active/Passive Sonar in DB. On Formidable #1492)
ASW- Aloft Active/Passive system. Same on Singapore Formidable #1492
</detail>

<evidence>
General Links
https://www.navalanalyses.com/2017/04/s ... ft-of.html
Green Dragon INS Nirit (2019)
fb.asp?m=4595357
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... en-dragon/
https://www.iai.co.il/p/green-dragon
Hero 900 INS Kidon 2021 (no Phalanx, Guidance device forward and 3x3 aft).
https://twitter.com/benreuter_IMINT/sta ... 69/photo/3
https://twitter.com/pjonesbilly/status/ ... 6475218944
https://uvisionuav.com/portfolio-view/hero-900/
ASW Mod
https://twitter.com/benreuter_IMINT/sta ... 69/photo/2
fb.asp?m=5005914
https://www.l3harris.com/sites/default/ ... -sonar.pdf
https://issuu.com/edrmag/docs/edr_47_2019_-_5_bd
Decoy Details
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.a ... ar%2C4%2E5&#
</evidence>

[Blast33]

I first posted this in tech support but it was said that it belongs in the database thead, so here it is:

The active seekerhead of the Iranian Sayyad-4 missile has a range of about 175 Nm..
This is probably a mix-up with the max range of the missile itself.

See image below.

[Parel803]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Jugurtha (OPV1400) class, P610, Offshore Patrol Vessel (OPV), Tunesian Navy</summary>
<detail>4 units in class, first in 2018 delivered to Tunesia
Displacement 1284 tons (standard), 1877 tons (full)
Length 72 m, Beam 12.7 m, Draft 3.75 m
4x Caterpillar 3512C DI-TA engine 9600 hp, 2 shafts
max speed 20.5, Range 4600 nm, Endurance 16 days
sensors 2x nav radar, weapons 2x 12.7mm/90
Helicopter deck for 5.5 ton helicopter, 1 ton crane
Multi-mission bay for 9m RHIB slipway launched and 1x 9m RHIB in davits. 1x 7m RHIB with crane
Possible 2 small calibre MG's, no evidence found
</detail>
<evidence>
https://res.cloudinary.com/damen-shipya ... v-1400.pdf - data on opv1400
https://navypedia.org/ships/tunisia/tun_es_jugurtha.htm - data on class
https://www.defenceweb.co.za/sea/sea-se ... w-vessels/
https://twitter.com/yorukisik/status/970623483377053701 -Images
https://www.defenceweb.co.za/security/m ... l-arrives/ - data on Jugurtha
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/tunisian ... at.566617/ - iamge and some data
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/pho ... id=2850722 - Images of second in class
</evidence>
with regards GJ

[Dide]

Hi. You could add in the future the new MBDA CAMM-ER missile, which will replace the old Aspide and Spada 2000 systems in the Italian Navy and Army. Thanks!
https://www.mbda-systems.com/product/camm-er/