The First Team: Take Two!

[vettim89]

ORIGINAL: Rainer79

ORIGINAL: Nemo121
Once you have Bombay you should be able to use Bettys and CVEs and CVLs basing frmo Bombay to prevent resupply from Aden. If the Allies only get 6,000 tons of supplies per month as auto-supply then you should be able to starve them out with ground bombardments and airstrikes over the course of many months.

Does anybody know if the auto-resources Bombay gets also produce supplies like normal resource centers? If that is the case then the Allies get a total of 12.000 tons supply / month at each location which will make starving them harder.

Also is there any indication that the Allies are shipping in supplies from Aden? Considering the current situation they should be trying to get as much transferred as possible before multiple lvl. 4 AFs make this suicidal.

Yes the HI in India does produce supply like Japanese HI. The one proviso to that is there is almost no indigenous oil in the CBI; ergo, the Allied team will have to lift it in from Aden.

[John 3rd]

We only got a single turn in today but I open the attack upon New Zealand's South Island with a solid start!

[John 3rd]

New Zealand is on the downhill slide...

[Rainer79]

ORIGINAL: vettim89
Yes the HI in India does produce supply like Japanese HI. The one proviso to that is there is almost no indigenous oil in the CBI; ergo, the Allied team will have to lift it in from Aden.

I am not talking about the HI itself but rather at the free resources the base gets. Look at the screenshot below (red box). Do those resources also generate supply like normal resource centers or not? That was my question.

[John 3rd]

To my knowledge those resources don't produce while the hex is contested.  It should be just like China.  Does anyone know for certain?

[Q-Ball]

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

To my knowledge those resources don't produce while the hex is contested.  It should be just like China.  Does anyone know for certain?

Resources and HI do not produce when enemy troops are in the hex

[John 3rd]

Add another feather into the Japanese cap!

[Rainer79]

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
Resources and HI do not produce when enemy troops are in the hex

Normal resource centers won't produce. AFAIK HI will continue to run off the accumulated stockpiles until one of the resources runs out (in this case probably oil). The free supplies from the base screen will continue to arrive even if Bombay is contested from which I assume that the free resources will do the same. I just don't know whether those will add supply like normal resources would.

[John 3rd]

We are down to pretty much Bombay and Karachi...

[John 3rd]

I just sent this note to Brad regarding several game developments:

It appears that there is some life within the Allied camp:

1.  Brit CVs outside of Aden Channel---I think they are pulling something we've done and that they are using their CVs to find SS and then attacking them with DD ASW TF.  Concur moving the Support Force to Singapore for R&R and to see what is happening.  Have a CVE finished in 6 Days and a CVL a few days after that.  When the ships reach Singapore, I will reorgagize the air groups so the CVEs are more useful.

2.  Bombay CAP--They have made abig mistake.  Have you noticed that Bombay's CAP is down?  They are using their fighters for about 50-50 escorts against anything hitting Poona, Bombay, or the hex above there.  This has lowered the CAP from over 100 down to around 50-60 planes.  Those can be shot down.  It is stupid because if you can Sweep them strongly from a nearby AF then follow-up with a massive Bomber--Zero Escort Raid, you can kill planes on the ground.  With a bit of luck we achieve aerial parity on Day 1 and then can grab Supremacy within a day or two.

Dan has taught me how this works.  Do a Sweep with 100-150 Fighters, if you have the planes do a second Sweep from somewhere slightly farther away, and then the 3rd Wave (farthest away from Bombay) comes in against little to no fighter opposition and the bombers then CRUSH what is on the ground.  It is brutal but works.

3.  Baker has been occupied!  There are PBYs there as of today.  COOL!  I move the 54 Z and 81 B from Kawj to Tarawa for a Naval Attack.  Order a STF from Kwajalein to head in that direction too.  Got about 10,000 supply unloading at Tarawa and that helps.

The Canton Invasion Force is unloading at Kwajalein right now.  Might be an opportunity here...

[Canoerebel]

Beware referring to your opponent's move as "stupid" as it may come back to haunt you. Also, they'll see your AAR titles (like "Christ Church a part of the East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere") and it'll hack 'em off.

[Q-Ball]

We have 3 Daitai of Zeros now in India, with 2 more at Rangoon repairing aircraft, that should be ready to move in about 2 days or so. We also have around 100 Oscars in India, but the 5 Zero Daitai will have to do the heavy lifting.

This should be enough to cause havoc over Bombay. We have 4 more Daitai in training, so there should be a steady stream of about 2 pilots a day to help replace the losses we'll have over Bombay.

[ny59giants]

Make sure to click on ALL bases involved with this attack and check what the weather forecast is. It isn't 100% accurate, but you don't want to get negative results after you set this up.

I would place some Nates at Poona to go in the first wave with low experience. Try to tire out their CAP. It looks like Hyperabad is the place for the Zeros and LB to come from looking at the distances involved. 

[John 3rd]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Beware referring to your opponent's move as "stupid" as it may come back to haunt you. Also, they'll see your AAR titles (like "Christ Church a part of the East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere") and it'll hack 'em off.

Never mean 'stupid' personally. Just saying it from my perspective as a move. If that concerns you I wouldn't read my AAR in Forlorn. Just venting--never personal--with AAR entries...

[John 3rd]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Make sure to click on ALL bases involved with this attack and check what the weather forecast is. It isn't 100% accurate, but you don't want to get negative results after you set this up.

I would place some Nates at Poona to go in the first wave with low experience. Try to tire out their CAP. It looks like Hyperabad is the place for the Zeros and LB to come from looking at the distances involved. 

Did you learn that move from Nemo Michael? Sounds like a Nemo move to me--meaning PURE EVIL! [;)] What do you think Brad?

[Cap Mandrake]

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Make sure to click on ALL bases involved with this attack and check what the weather forecast is. It isn't 100% accurate, but you don't want to get negative results after you set this up.

I would place some Nates at Poona to go in the first wave with low experience. Try to tire out their CAP. It looks like Hyperabad is the place for the Zeros and LB to come from looking at the distances involved. 

Did you learn that move from Nemo Michael? Sounds like a Nemo move to me--meaning PURE EVIL! [;)] What do you think Brad?

The problem with that is you can't control the order of attacks from different airfields. You can set the airfield attack to go in the afternoon by setting the bombers on "naval" attack in the morning to follow a morning fighter sweep.


If you ask me, the best strategy is to mass the very best fighters you have at one good sized airfield and send them in first at high altitude. I suppose you could hold one Datai of Zeroes back for day 2 reserve.

Optionally, you can send in Oscars with the Zeroes as a "soak off attack". Send them in with the same strike package at an altitude below the expected CAP (but above 6000 ft) while the elite fighters come in above the CAP. The Oscars will get slaughtered but it will improve the odds for the zeroes.

If you think you have a good chance of attritting the CAP on day 1, then send in a massed bombing raid with a weak to moderate escort as an afternoon airfield attacks. If it succeeds, you will tear up planes on the ground.

If you think it will it will be a slow battle of attrition, then withold the bombers until you weaken and fatigue the defending fighters (day 2 or 3).

[John 3rd]

Good Thinking and wise advise Sir.  Thanks.

[John 3rd]

Here is the end of the India Campaign:

[John 3rd]

This is the current planning for the KB:

[John 3rd]

NEVER to EVER again forget China--these are the current operations in theatre: