Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[tylerblakebrandon]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add Hypothetical 1980's JTACM ground or air launched ballistic missile.
</summary>
<detail>Proposed for truck based systems or air launch from USAF F-16, A-7, or B-52 aircraft. 2 versions. Vought's T22 proposal based on the MGM-52 Lance and Martin-Marietta's T16 proposal based on the MIM-104 Patriot.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... KAf3Z1oN2Q
</evidence>

[tylerblakebrandon]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add Russian Project 12700 Aleksandrit class MCM.
</summary>
<detail>New Russian MCM class in service from 2016
</detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandri ... inesweeper
https://www.naval-technology.com/projec ... s-vessels/
</evidence>

[KLAB]

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 021-11-16/

Yep seems like the UAE has an awful lot of money for defence, my bad etc...[:)]

ORIGINAL: Blast33

ORIGINAL: KLAB

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary> UAE F-35 - Not happening Rafale F4 is. </summary>
<detail>
UAE has bought 80 Rafale instead.
Request/Suggest either
1. Overwrite UAE F-35 DB entry with Dassault Rafale F4.
2. Change entry for F35 to hypothetical.
3. Update title to show order cancelled.
4. Deletion. But suspect will cause issues. </detail>
<evidence>
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/2 ... -officials
</evidence>
Thanks
K

F-35 is still on the table.
Please hold on to the option.
https://twitter.com/TheDEWLine/status/1466757535055192071

[Blast33]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add General Atomics Mojave UAS</summary>
<detail>General Atomics Mojave UCAV - derived from the MQ-1C Gray Eagle, is optimized for STOL & Firepower. It capable to operate from semi-improved surfaces with an emphasis on supporting various kinds of expeditionary and distributed operations. Can be armed with 16x Hellfires mulitple EW, Comms, SAR, GMTI or dispenser pods. performance details in See evidence.

Although there is no customer yet is is a nice one for the hypothetical list to try out in scenarios, because of its payload and short take-off and landing capabilities.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/sta ... 4050658306
https://twitter.com/Ch_Ru_GER/status/14 ... 1126217728
https://www.overtdefense.com/2021/12/09 ... ojave-uav/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAEKNVp ... e=youtu.be
https://www.ga-asi.com/ga-asi-announces-new-mojave-uas
</evidence>

[Blast33]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add Switchblade 300 and Switchblade 600</summary>
<detail>The US has purchased the Switchblade 300 and 600. Please also add the Multipack launcher; see evidence MPL_Datasheet_07122021.pdf

“The Switchblade 300 is a lightweight, organic, beyond line-of-sight precision guided weapon,” Brett Hush, Senior General Manager, Product Line Management of AeroVironment Tactical Missile Systems business adds. Its military avionics, GPS/INS and E/O – IR sensor suite are the same fitted to the Blackwing ISR submarine launched system, allowing economy of scale. Targeting optics include dual front and side looking E/O cameras and one IR nose camera with stabilized electronic pan-tilt-zoom. A secure digital data link ensures two-way communications between the air vehicle and the operator, the Switchblade 300 being fitted with a precision effects munition payload, with directional precision engagement, ensuring low collateral damages. This is provided by Northrop Grumman (formerly Orbital ATK), and has the size of a 40 mm grenade warhead, mostly aimed at antipersonnel engagements and also effective against soft-skinned vehicles.

A soldier oriented system, fully manportable, the overall weight of the munition including the launch tube is 2.5 kg, and three such munitions can be hosted in a rucksack. From the stored position, it takes less than two minutes to deploy and launch the Switchblade 300; this, together with the over 100 km/h cruise speed and the 160 km/h dash speed allow it to reach the maximum range, 10 km, in less than 6 minutes, to acquire, identify and engage high volatility targets. Considering the 15 minutes endurance, this gives time to loiter over the target, and eventually acquire a different one should the first attack be waved off, something that can be done until few seconds before detonation, according to AeroVironment officials.

The Switchblade 300 can receive target data from other systems, i.e. AeroVironment Wasp, Raven or Puma UAS; once the UAS operator has positively identified the target, its grids are automatically transferred to the loitering munition via machine-to-machine interface, reducing transfer time and with no chance of error. Once the engagement completed, the UAS can provide battle damage assessment
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.flightglobal.com/military-u ... 83.article
https://www.army-technology.com/news/ae ... s-us-army/
https://www.avinc.com/images/uploads/pr ... og_R09.pdf
https://www.edrmagazine.eu/switchblade- ... n-munition
https://www.avinc.com/images/uploads/pr ... 122021.pdf
</evidence>

[Blast33]

I am not sure, but I think this is a minor database issue and not for the technical forum part:

The #3490 Blackwing UAS launched from submarines has a speed of 400-600 kts but is propellor driven and weighs four pounds.. You catch my drift..[;)]?

Another thing is that it can only fly pre-programmed waypoints, but then it starts loitering and can't be given any waypoint commands.

In the database, it has a Link-16 datalink a UHF secure datalink and the UAV datalink.
If there is Submarine-to-UAV comms, I think it should be possible to adjust the waypoints inflight.

Quote:
“Threshold performance of the air vehicle should include electro-optic capability with reliable target solution analysis,” it continued. “The vehicle should remain airborne for at least one hour, operate at ranges out to the line-of-sight radio horizon, and use a variable bandwidth encrypted datalink with at least 256-bit encryption strength.”

And this one is a challenge I think for you programmers:
The drone “doesn’t have to launch right away. It could be sent to the surface and set to launch at some later time when no submarine’s in the area.”
Is this staying, and take-off later capacity programmable?

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/39700/the-u-s-navys-submarine-launched-aerial-drone-capacity-is-set-to-greatly-expand

[Sardaukar]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Finland F-35A Block 4</summary>
<detail>
Finland has today selected F-35A Block 4 as replacement for F-18C/D in Finnish Air Force. The first Finnish F-35 fighters will begin service with the Finnish Air Force in 2025 as part of the training of Finnish personnel in the United States. The first F-35s will be delivered to Finland in 2026.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.defmin.fi/en/topical/press_ ... s#2bb7221d
https://ilmavoimat.fi/en/-/the-lockheed ... le-fighter
</evidence>

[Stanley_The_Rolmate]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add Polish Patriot SAM</summary>
<detail>
In 2018 Poland purchased 2 Patriot batteries consisting of 4 fire units in total.
The following equipment was purchased: four sector radars, four combat control stations, 16 M-903 launchers, six command and control stations,
12 radio lines and 208 Lockheed Martin PAC-3 MSE missiles.
The first battery is expected to be deilvered in the be in early 2022.
The Polish batteries are slightly different than the batteries currently included in the DB, because Poland has only bought PAC-3 MSE missiles and all the ones currently included are ussualy loaded with a mix of missiles.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.defenseworld.net/news/30572 ... ZEEJrrvJPY
https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/fi ... year-21454
</evidence>

[KLAB]

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>#2783 - Sea Ceptor [CAMM(M)] and CAMM(L) #3735 - Sky Sabre [Land Ceptor] are too slow.</summary>
<detail>Reiterating prior request(s) that both naval and land versions of the CAMM are too slow in DB3K 491.

Current max speed of 1600kts should actually be 2000kts (2300mph) circa Mach 3 from the articles from the UK MoD below and the max target speed modified to match - .

UK Royal Navy - Type 23 (in service) Type 45 Type 26 Type 31
Royal Canadian Navy
Royal New Zealand Navy
Chilean Navy - Type 23 (in service)
Brazilian Marines/Navy
Pakistani Navy
Polish Army - Land Forces

Italian Army/Air Force/Navy - CAMM-ER - Extended range to 40km (22nm) The missile is 160 kilograms (350 lb) in weight, 4.2 metres (14 ft) in length, 190 millimetres (7.5 in) diameter.[24]
Spanish Navy -CAMM-ER

</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/1 ... nnis-ball/
https://des.mod.uk/des-sky-sabre-britis ... r-defence/
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/adva ... m-launched

"• At 99kg each, the Common Anti-Air Modular Missiles (CAMM) are double the weight of Rapier and have three times the range. They can reach speeds of 2,300mph eliminating fighter aircraft, drones and even laser-guided smart bombs. Eight missiles are mounted on the launcher, which fire in a unique multi-directional manner that significantly reduces its signature making it less of a target for adversaries. The launcher also re-arms in less than half the time of Rapier."
</evidence>

ORIGINAL: KLAB

#2783 Sea Ceptor CAMM(M)

SEA CEPTOR #2783 Sea Ceptor CAMM(M)

https://www.forces.net/news/what-can-ro ... issiles-do
https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/from-s ... ve-shield/

As a significant weapon system on new Type 26/31 and retrofitted Type 23 UK RN vessels plus Brazilian and RNZN exports:Please consider

1. Making #2783 Sea Ceptor CAMM(M) faster circa 2000kts. Majority of sources are crediting it with circa Mach 3 performance.
Currently it is incapable of engaging P-800 class supersonic missiles due to a max engagement speed of 1350kts versus the Strobile's 1600kts.
This is unlikely given the time frame, generation of missile and design criteria.
It was designed when the Strobile and similar types were a known quantity and a principle threat, so it should be capable of defending against it.

2. Capable of hitting surface targets. There are numerous and credible reports from several sources including the manufacturer of it being capable of attacking surface targets including small swarming attacks from Jet Ski style threats.

3. As a lesser issue in Royal Navy parlance it is GWS.35 so could you also consider a name change to #2783 CAMM(M)[Sea Ceptor GWS.35]

Thanks for consideration as ever.

K

[14yellow14]

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Finland F-35A Block 4</summary>
<detail>
Finland has today selected F-35A Block 4 as replacement for F-18C/D in Finnish Air Force. The first Finnish F-35 fighters will begin service with the Finnish Air Force in 2025 as part of the training of Finnish personnel in the United States. The first F-35s will be delivered to Finland in 2026.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.defmin.fi/en/topical/press_ ... s#2bb7221d
https://ilmavoimat.fi/en/-/the-lockheed ... le-fighter
</evidence>

Some important details for loadouts:

The first Finnish fighters – coming out of Lot 17 in 2025 – will have the TR3 hardware upgrades that are associated with the Block 4 (including the sidekick upgrade that allow for six AMRAAMs in internal carriage)

The weapons package is at the same time comprehensive and straightforward. The first package which will be signed off at the same time as the fighter contract is for AIM-120C-8 AMRAAMs and AIM-9X Sidewinders. Further down the road the package will most likely include JSM in the joint air-to-ground and anti-ship roles, as well as the AGM-158 JASSM-ER heavy cruise missile, GBU-54 and GBU-56 LJDAM laser-/GPS-guided bombs in the 250 and 1,000 kg class, as well as the GBU-39 SDB and GBU-53/B StormBreaker SDB II small-diameter bombs. Notable is that this will bring serious new capabilities to the Finnish Air Force, such as the ability to hit moving and mobile targets, on land and at sea.

https://corporalfrisk.com/2021/12/11/f- ... es-it-all/

It should also be able to carry other weapons in service in Finland such as GBU-31 (MK-84 and BLU-109) and possibly JSOW.




Cheers

[Broncepulido]

Great details on French and Italian Horizon DDGs, including small sensors and decoys:
https://www.navalanalyses.com/2014/07/h ... h-and.html

[nogravity]

This should be an easy fix. Taiwan's SkyBow III (SAM) #888. Its minimal target altitude is 100000ft-80000ft. That is way too high. Attached is the screenshot of the DB entry. DB version is DB3000 v491

[Stanley_The_Rolmate]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>add UAE Al-Quwaisat class LCT</summary>
<detail>
Displacement: 2,046 , Length: 80m, Beam: 16.8m, Draft: 4m
Speed 12kn (cruise) 14kn (max), Range 2500nm at 12kn,
Crew: 106
Military lift: 130 personnel ? tons ? m2
Aviation facilities: 1 helicopter landing pad
Machinery 2 Cummins KTA50 diesels 1800hp per engine, 2 shafts
Weapons: 4 x 12,7mm machinegun RWS
Sensors: 2 radars?
Commisioned: 2013
Decommisioned: -
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.syshippingcorp.com.my/shipy ... -ship.html
https://www.theborneopost.com/2012/10/1 ... -uae-navy/
https://twitter.com/JeremyBinnie/status ... 8534307842
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Quwaisat-class_LST
https://www.navypedia.org/ships/uae/uae ... waisat.htm
</evidence>

[Stanley_The_Rolmate]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>add UAE Al Shareeah LSV</summary>
<detail>
Add UAE navy Al Shareeah LSV/landing craft
Displacement: 3100, Length: 78.7m, Beam: 15m, Draft: 3.25m
Speed 10kts (max)
Crew: 62
Military lift: ? personnel ? tons ? m2 I could not find any information about the ships capacity
Aviation facilities: 1 helicopter landing pad
Machinery 2 MTU 12V4000M3 3750hp, 2 shafts
Weapons: no
Sensors: 2x radars ? I could not find any more info about the ships radars.
Commisioned: 2012
Decommisioned: -
</detail>
<evidence>
https://vpk.name/en/489123_the-uae-navy ... -ship.html
https://focusmarine.com/projects/lsv75m
https://www.navypedia.org/ships/uae/uae ... areeah.htm
</evidence>

[Stanley_The_Rolmate]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>add UAE Al Saadiyat LSV</summary>
<detail>
Add UAE navy Al Saadiyat LSV/landing craft
"Although Al-Saadiyat belongs to the same class as Al-Shareeah, it differs from it in the size, layout of the superstructure, including the helipad, located one deck higher. The design of the deck cranes and the bow ramp also differ."
Displacement: 3100, Length: 71m, Beam: 15m, Draft: 2.7m
Speed 10kts (max)
Crew: 62
Military lift: ? personnel ? tons ? m2 I could not find any information about the ships capacity
Aviation facilities: 1 helicopter landing pad
Machinery 2 MTU 12V4000M3 3750hp, 2 shafts
Weapons: no
Sensors: 2x radars ? I could not find any more info about the ships radars.
Commisioned: 2021
Decommisioned: -
</detail>
<evidence>
https://vpk.name/en/489123_the-uae-navy ... -ship.html
https://focusmarine.com/projects/lsv75m
https://navdex.ae/wp-content/uploads/20 ... 2.2021.pdf
https://www.navypedia.org/ships/uae/uae ... areeah.htm
</evidence>

[Stanley_The_Rolmate]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>add UAE Al Feya class landing craft</summary>
<detail>
Add UAE Al Feya class landing craft
Displacement: 650 tons, Length: 50m, Beam: 11m, Draft: 2,75m
Speed: 11kts (max) endurance (at 11kts): 1800nm
Crew: 10
Military lift: 56 personnel ? tons ? m2, 4 tanks
Aviation facilities: -
Machinery 2 diesels, 2 shafts, 1,248 bhp
Weapons: 2 12.7mm machineguns
Sensors: BR100-056 radar
Commisioned: 1987
Decommisioned: -
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/mideast/uae.htm
https://www.navypedia.org/ships/uae/uae_cf_al_feyi.htm
International Institute for Strategic Studies. (2021a). The Military Balance 2021. Routledge. ISBN: 1032012277 https://i.imgur.com/9vnGmwn.png
</evidence>

[Stanley_The_Rolmate]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>add UAE navy L65-class landing craft</summary>
<detail>
Add UAE navy L65-class landing craft
Displacement: 800 tons, Length: 64m, Beam: 12m, Draft: 2.5m
Speed: 10kts (max) endurance (at 10kts): 2000nm
Crew: 17
Military lift: 56 personnel 240 tons 320m2
Aviation facilities: -
Machinery: Twin Caterpillar C32 marine diesel
Weapons: 2 x 20mm cannons
Sensors: Simrad RA-53C radar
Commisioned: 2003
Decommisioned: -
</detail>
<evidence>
https://files.adsb.ae/s3fs-public/2020- ... 0ENG_0.pdf
https://www.navypedia.org/ships/uae/uae_cf_l65.htm
</evidence>

[Stanley_The_Rolmate]

ORIGINAL: Stanley_The_Rolmate

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>add UAE navy L65-class landing craft</summary>
<detail>
Add UAE navy L65-class landing craft
Displacement: 730 tons, Length: 64m, Beam: 12m, Draft: 2.5m
Speed: 10kts (max) endurance (at 10kts): 2000nm
Crew: 17
Military lift: 56 personnel 240 tons 320m2
Aviation facilities: -
Machinery: Twin Caterpillar C32 marine diesel
Weapons: 2 x 20mm cannons
Sensors: Simrad RA-53C radar
Commisioned: 2003
Decommisioned: -
</detail>
<evidence>
https://files.adsb.ae/s3fs-public/2020- ... 0ENG_0.pdf
https://www.navypedia.org/ships/uae/uae_cf_l65.htm
</evidence>

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>add UAE navy modified L65-class landing craft Zarkoh</summary>
<detail>
Add UAE navy modified L65-class landing craft Zarkoh. Zarkhov was equiped with a folding helicopter landing pad in sometime before or in 2010 (not 2012 as stated on navypedia).
Displacement: 730 tons, Length: 64m, Beam: 12m, Draft: 2.5m
Speed: 10kts (max) endurance (at 10kts): 2000nm
Crew: 17
Military lift: 56 personnel 240 tons 320m2
Aviation facilities: Helicopter landing pad
Machinery: Twin Caterpillar C32 marine diesel
Weapons: 2 x 20mm cannons
Sensors: Simrad RA-53C radar
Commisioned: 2010
Decommisioned: -
</detail>
<evidence>
http://www.seychellesweekly.com/March%2 ... _boat.html
http://myship.com/imo/8741789/ZARKHO-L67/gallery
https://files.adsb.ae/s3fs-public/2020- ... 0ENG_0.pdf
https://www.navypedia.org/ships/uae/uae_cf_l65.htm
</evidence>

[Stanley_The_Rolmate]

ORIGINAL: Stanley_The_Rolmate

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>add UAE navy L65-class landing craft</summary>
<detail>
Add UAE navy L65-class landing craft
Displacement: 800 tons, Length: 64m, Beam: 12m, Draft: 2.5m
Speed: 10kts (max) endurance (at 10kts): 2000nm
Crew: 17
Military lift: 56 personnel 240 tons 320m2
Aviation facilities: -
Machinery: Twin Caterpillar C32 marine diesel
Weapons: 2 x 20mm cannons
Sensors: Simrad RA-53C radar
Commisioned: 2003
Decommisioned: -
</detail>
<evidence>
https://files.adsb.ae/s3fs-public/2020- ... 0ENG_0.pdf
https://www.navypedia.org/ships/uae/uae_cf_l65.htm
</evidence>

<type>ADD UAE navy L65 landing craft</type>
<summary>add Oman navy Al Munassir L65-class landing craft</summary>
<detail>
Add Oman navy Al Munassir landing craft. Al Munassir is a L65-class landing craft of the Omani navy build by Abu Dhabi Ship Building.
Displacement: 800 tons, Length: 64m, Beam: 12m, Draft: 2.5m
Speed: 10kts (max) endurance (at 10kts): 2000nm
Crew: 17
Military lift: 56 personnel 240 tons 320m2
Aviation facilities: -
Machinery: Twin Caterpillar C32 marine diesel
Weapons: 2 x 20mm cannons
Sensors: Decca radar
Commisioned: 2006
Decommisioned: -
</detail>
<evidence>
http://www.gulfindustryworldwide.com/ne ... essel.html
https://files.adsb.ae/s3fs-public/2020- ... 0ENG_0.pdf
https://www.navypedia.org/ships/oman/om ... ssir06.htm
</evidence>

[Stanley_The_Rolmate]

ORIGINAL: Stanley_The_Rolmate

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>add UAE navy L65-class landing craft</summary>
<detail>
Add UAE navy L65-class landing craft
Displacement: 800 tons, Length: 64m, Beam: 12m, Draft: 2.5m
Speed: 10kts (max) endurance (at 10kts): 2000nm
Crew: 17
Military lift: 56 personnel 240 tons 320m2
Aviation facilities: -
Machinery: Twin Caterpillar C32 marine diesel
Weapons: 2 x 20mm cannons
Sensors: Simrad RA-53C radar
Commisioned: 2003
Decommisioned: -
</detail>
<evidence>
https://files.adsb.ae/s3fs-public/2020- ... 0ENG_0.pdf
https://www.navypedia.org/ships/uae/uae_cf_l65.htm
</evidence>

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>add Kuwait navy Al Safar landing craft</summary>
<detail>
Add Kuwait navy Al Safar landing craft. Al Safar and her sister ship L6402 are L65-class landing craft of the Kuwaiti navy build by Abu Dhabi Ship Building.
Displacement: 800 tons, Length: 64m, Beam: 12m, Draft: 2.5m
Speed: 10kts (max) endurance (at 10kts): 2000nm
Crew: 17
Military lift: 56 personnel 240 tons 320m2
Aviation facilities: -
Machinery: 2 Caterpillar 3508 diesels
Weapons: 2 x 20mm cannons
Sensors: unknown radar
Commisioned: 2017
Decommisioned: -
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.themaritimestandard.com/lan ... ched-adsb/
https://www.constructionweekonline.com/ ... ing-vessel
https://files.adsb.ae/s3fs-public/2020- ... 0ENG_0.pdf
https://www.navypedia.org/ships/oman/om ... ssir06.htm
</evidence>