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<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Replace all AA-11 (R-73) with AA-8 (R-60) in iraqi MiG-29 loadouts</summary>
<detail>
According to the book Desert Storm Volume 1: the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and operation Desert Shield 1990-1991, Iraq never received R-73E for their MiG-29, they were instead armed with R-60M/MK. The SIPRI arms transfer database also does not mention R-73E being trasferred to Iraq.
Please replace all AA-11 (R-73)(DB ID: #1896) with AA-8 (R-60) (DB ID: #1897) in Iraqi MiG-29(ID: #1347 and #3342) loadouts
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<evidence>
Hooton, E. R., & Cooper, T. (2019). Desert Storm. Volume 1: The Iraqi Invasion of Kuwait & Operation Desert Shield 1990–1991 (Middle East@War). Helion and Company. Page 22
Iraqi MiG-29s were armed with R-27R (ASCC/NATO-codename 'AA-10 Alamo') and R-60M/MK (ASCC/NATO-codename 'AA-8 Aphid') missiles and thus lacked the most advanced Soviet short-range air-to-air missile, the R-73E (ASCC/NATO-codename 'AA-11 Archer').
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Additional information on the Iranian Bavar-373 Air Defense System:

Also please see the Update 4th January 2022 (bottom of the webpage) on: https://irangeomil.blogspot.com/2019/08/irans-bavar-373-profile.html

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Additional information on the Iranian Fakour 90/AIM-23B with composite body (+fins & wings) + &#127482;&#127474; SARH-seeker of the MIM-23B I-Hawk MR-SAM with propulsion by an Aerojet General M112 dual-thrust solid-propellant motor.

Movielink:
https://twitter.com/maysam21901/status/1447658640605908994

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Tech Specs of the Iranian AD-08 Majid SAM:
https://twitter.com/imp_navigator/status/1478595902449328128



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ORIGINAL: KLAB

"In aid of Juche: how Cuban anti-submarine helicopters ended up in North Korea - Oryx" https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2020/05/i ... i.html?m=1
https://www.nknews.org/2020/05/in-aid-o ... rth-korea/
Haze may not be as hypothetical as it seems and the second article has an alleged Satellite image of the Mi-14 x 2 at Wonsan DPRK in 2017 but who knows?
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ORIGINAL: Coiler12

<type>Update</type>
<summary>North Korean Mi-25 (Aircraft #1383) and Mi-14PL (Aircraft #1470) should be flagged as hypothetical</summary>
<detail>According to the definitive On The Path of Songun, the rumored North Korean Hind deal never actually happened, and they have never been seen in any kind of parade or demonstration.</detail>
<Evidence>On the Path Of Songun, Mitzer and Oliemans, page 99-100:
Reports of up to 47 Mi-24Ds reaching the DPRK stemmed from a misreporting to the US Congressional Research Service decades ago and are therefore certainly incorrect, which is not surprising given the fact that North Korean military doctrine seemed to favour lighter helicopter gunships instead. In the same vein reports about a handful of Mi-14PL ASW helicopters delivered during the same period also appear to be false.
</evidence>
The Mi-14 is indeed not hypothetical as is mentioned later in the same book that the original quote is from, and the articles.
The passage that Coiler quoted talks about false reports of Mi-14s being delivered by the USSR, the articles and the following quotes from the same book however are about Mi-14s transferred by Cuba (and possibly another unknown nation) to the DPRK in the 1990s.
On the Path Of Songun, Mitzer and Oliemans, page 119:
Lastly at least two Ka-28s and two Mi-14s were acquired by North Korea from Cuba in the late 1990s, replacing the Mi-4s previously used by the Naval Flight Squadron.
Satellite imagery however reveals five Ka-27 derivatives and up to four Mi-14s at Inhung air base on the eastern coast, indicating more examples were sourced from other nations to form a relatively sizeable fleet. Of course satellite imagery is insuffecient to determine the precise variants concerned, it is possible that the excess Mi-14s and Ka-28s are in fact Mi-8/17s and civilian ka-32s (possibly used for spare parts).
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So the Hazes are not hypothetical but the Hinds still are. Thanks for the correction.
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Ta Chiang, Taiwanese Catamaran Corvette</summary>
<detail>
AAW version of Tuo Chiang Corvette with ASW torpedoes removed and 16xTC-2N added.
11 ships planned first one commisioned 2021
</detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuo_Chiang-class_corvette
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... %E6%B1%9F/
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... sea-trial/
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... ssile.html
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... s-corvette
https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/ ... 2003764120
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Hypotetical E-10A USAF (E-8 JSTARS replacement, cancelled in 2007)</summary>
<detail>

The Northrop Grumman E-10A Multi-Sensor Command and Control Aircraft (MC2A) was an ambitious program to replace several types with a single model. As David Willis reveals, it proved to be too ambitious and was quickly dropped when the US Air Force (USAF) needed funds for higher priority projects.


The Northrop Grumman E-10 MC2A was planned as a multi-role military aircraft to replace the Boeing 707 based E-3 Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) Sentry, E-8 Joint Surveillance Target Attack Radar System (J-STARS), and RC-135 Rivet Joint aircraft in US service. It was based on the 767-400ER commercial airplane.

Initially, the E-10A is intended to replace the E-8C Joint Stars aircraft to provide improved tracking of moving ground targets. Additionally, it will be designed to detect low-flying cruise missiles. Later derivatives of the E-10A could replace the Boeing E-3 AWACS airborne surveillance aircraft (E-10B) and RC-135 Rivet Joint signals intelligence aircraft (E-10C).

Spiral 1 - MP-RTIP
This version would have provided substantial Joint Cruise Missile Defense (CMD) capability with focused Air Moving Target Indicator (AMTI) modes and augment the E-8 Joint STARS in the ground surveillance role.


They planned to have the E-10A operational in 2013.

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<evidence>
https://www.key.aero/article/story-behi ... -programme
https://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/e1 ... jim-03139/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_ ... _E-10_MC2A
https://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/systems/e-10.htm
https://www.boeing.com/news/frontiers/a ... _ids2.html
https://scholar.afit.edu/cgi/viewconten ... ntext=docs
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>AAD (Ashwin Air Defense) Endoatmospheric Anti-ballistic missile </summary>
<detail>
Specifications
Mass: 1,200 kg (2,600 lb)
Length: 7.5 m (25 ft)
Diameter: <0.5 m (1.6 ft)
Warhead: Pre-fragmented warhead
Warhead weight: 80 kg (180 lb)
Detonation mechanism: Hit-to-kill interception
Engine: Single stage
Propellant: Solid fuel
Operational range: 200 km (120 mi)
Flight ceiling: 40 km (25 mi)
Maximum speed: Mach 5
Guidance system: Inertial navigation system with mid-course update (guidance by Super swordfish, INS Dhurv, EL-2090 Phalcon AEW)
Terminal: Active radar homing
Launch platform: BEML-Tatra TEL 8 × 8 (6x Missiles in canisterised configuration on single TEL)
</detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ba ... _Programme
https://www.strategicfront.org/forums/t ... sions.616/
https://youtu.be/QkI9OHGPzkc
https://www.army-technology.com/projects/drdo-bmd/
https://theprint.in/defence/indias-ball ... hi/345853/
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Super Swordfish L Band Radar</summary>
<detail>
Target acquisition and fire control radar for the BMD system.
Can Guide Exo-atmospheric interceptor missile PAD to hit its target in space at an altitude over 80 km from earth.
It can detect and track 200 targets simultaneously traveling at a speed of over Mach 12.
The Swordfish LRTR currently has a range of 600 km (370 mi)-800 km (500 mi) km range and can spot objects as small as a cricket ball (3-inches in diameter), which the DRDO is in the process of upgrading to 1,500 km as of 2012. These may end up as entirely new designs as well.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ba ... _Programme
https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/worl ... rdfish.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swordfish ... king_Radar
https://theprint.in/defence/indias-ball ... hi/345853/
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Prithvi Air Defence (PAD) Exoatmospheric Anti-ballistic missile </summary>
<detail>
Specifications
Warhead: Pre-fragmented warhead
Warhead weight: 40 kg (88 lb)
Detonation mechanism: Proximity fuze
Engine Two Stage with gas thruster
Propellant First stage: Dual propellant liquid fuel and oxidizer,
Second stage: Solid fuel
Operational range: 3,000 km (1,900 mi)
Flight altitude: 80 km (50 mi)
Maximum speed: Mach 5
Guidance system (guidance by Super swordfish, INS Dhurv, EL-2090 Phalcon AEW)
Mid-course: Inertial navigation system with ground-based mid-course correction
Terminal: Active radar homing
Launch platform: BEML-Tatra TEL 8 × 8 (1x missile on each TELs)
</detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ba ... _Programme
https://www.strategicfront.org/forums/t ... sions.616/
https://www.mod.gov.in/sites/default/files/AR8.pdf
https://www.army-technology.com/projects/drdo-bmd/
https://theprint.in/defence/indias-ball ... hi/345853/
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Prithvi Defence Vehicle (PDV) Exoatmospheric Anti-ballistic missile </summary>
<detail>
Specifications
Detonation mechanism: Hit-to-kill interception
Engine Two stage rocket motor
Propellant Solid fuel
Operational range 5,000 km (3,100 mi)
Flight altitude 180 km (110 mi)>
Guidance system:
Mid-course: Ring laser gyro based inertial navigation system and redundant micro navigation system,
Terminal: Imaging infrared homing
</detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ba ... _Programme
https://thediplomat.com/2017/02/india-s ... er-system/
https://www.strategicfront.org/forums/t ... sions.616/
https://www.army-technology.com/projects/drdo-bmd/
https://theprint.in/defence/indias-ball ... hi/345853/
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Prithvi Defence Vehicle Mark 2 (ASAT: Anti Satellite Missile) </summary>
<detail>
Specifications
Mass 18.87 t
Length 13.2 metres (43 ft)
Diameter 1.4 metres (4.6 ft)
Detonation mechanism: Hit-to-kill interception
Engine Two-stage rocket motor with third stage kinetic kill vehicle
Propellant: Solid fuel
Flight altitude: 1,200 km (750 mi)>
Guidance system: Mid-course: Ring laser gyro-based inertial navigation system and redundant micro navigation system,
Terminal: Imaging infrared homing
Accuracy >10 cm
Transport Transporter erector launcher (TEL) system
</detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ba ... _Programme
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_Shakti
https://delhidefencereview.com/2019/04/ ... te-killer/
https://www.drdo.gov.in/mission-shakti
https://theprint.in/defence/india-has-n ... ch/330831/
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>INS Dhruv (Ocean surveillance and missile tracking ship) </summary>
<detail>
General characteristics
Type Ocean surveillance and missile tracking ship
Displacement 15,000 t (15,000 long tons; 17,000 short tons)
Length 175 m (574 ft)
Beam 22 m (72 ft)
Draught 6 m (20 ft)
Propulsion
2 × diesel engines in CODAD, 9,000 kW (12,000 hp) each
3 × auxiliary generators 1,200 kW (1,600 hp) each
Total 15 MW power
Speed: 21 kn (39 km/h; 24 mph)
Complement: 300
Sensors and processing systems
X-Band AESA Radar
S-Band AESA Radar
Aircraft carried: 1 × Medium helicopter (Sea King, Kamov-27, MH-60)
</detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INS_Dhruv
https://www.wionews.com/india-news/ins- ... hip-412139
https://navalpost.com/india-commissions-ins-dhruv/
https://www.marineinsight.com/shipping- ... ins-dhruv/
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Arudhra (MEDIUM POWER AESA RADAR (MPR)) </summary>
<detail>
MPR indigenous rotating active phased array multifunction 4D radar capable of automatic detection and
tracking of aerial targets ranging from fighter aircrafts to slow moving targets. The system has an
instrumented range of 400 Km and is able to detect 2sqm RCS targets as far as 300 Km in range with the
altitude coverage from 100 meters to 30 Kms. The radar operates either in Staring or Rotation Mode. In
rotation mode, the antenna rotates at 7.5 / 15 rpm with surveillance coverage of 360o
in azimuth and 30o
in
elevation. In staring mode of operation, the antenna stares in specified azimuth with surveillance coverage
of ±60 o
in azimuth and 30 o
in elevation. The Radar is based on a solid-state active aperture phased array
with Digital Beam Forming and has electronic scanning capability in both azimuth and elevation. The
coverage is attained using wide transmit beam and multiple receive beams in both azimuth and elevation.

The following are the technologies established as part of ARUDHRA radar and it has spin-off for all future
similar class of radar projects of LRDE
• Rotating Active Phased Array
• Time synchronization of multiple receivers
• 2D Digital Beam-forming
• DBF based active array calibration
• Multi-Beam processing
• Critical real-time software and firmware
• Independently rotating IFF radar.
• Mechanical Packaging (Engineering, Thermal, etc.,)

</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.drdo.gov.in/sites/default/f ... es/mpr.pdf
http://fullafterburner.weebly.com/next- ... acred-wave
https://twitter.com/KesariDhwaj/status/ ... 77824?s=20
https://www.mod.gov.in/sites/default/fi ... AR2018.pdf (Page 53)
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<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Please update Israeli HAWK SAM phase-2 and 3 TV sensor range and max alt engagement range of the missiles </summary>
<detail>
Phase 2 HPIs had an optical tracking system added for operation in an ECM environment. This device, called the Tracking Adjunct System (TAS), was positioned on top and between the two radar dishes.

The Israelis have upgraded the Phase 2 standard with the addition of a Super Eye electro-optical TV system (DB sensor #503) for detection of aircraft at 30 to 40 km and identification at 17 to 25 km. They have also modified their system for engagements at altitudes up to 24,000 m

At present, for example an Alpha Jet, is sometimes detected only at 17 km, but more often when it is flying above the SAM site.. And not by the Super Eye sensor but the MK1 Eyeball.. This was tested at altitudes of FL360 and FL120.

Next to the TV sensor range, the missile max engagement altitude is presently set at FL580, but can be adjusted to max FL787 (24.000m)
(so it will be able to engage a Syrian MiG-25 at FL60 [;)])
</detail>
<evidence>
https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/776038
https://www.seniorennet.be/forum/viewto ... 949234342b
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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Please update all M270 PrSM to include two (2) missiles per launch cell </summary>
<detail>PrSM missiles are smaller than ATACMS which allows for two missiles per cell instead of one. The DB currently has the M270 only containing two PrSM missiles instead of four as it should. </detail>
<evidence>
Lockheed Martin website
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<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Please add AIM-120D to RAAF F-35As, F/A-18Fs and EA-18Gs</summary>
<detail>Australia is slated to purchase 450 AIM-120D advanced medium-range air-to-air missiles (AMRAAMs) following an April 25 (2016) approval by the U.S. Department of State...This proposed sale is in support of the Royal Australian Air Force’s (RAAF) F/A-18, E/A-18G, and F-35 aircraft. This proposed sale will provide the RAAF additional air-to-air intercept capability and increase interoperability with the U.S. Air Force. Australia will have no difficulty absorbing these missiles into its armed forces.</detail>
<evidence>
https://thediplomat.com/2016/04/austral ... -missiles/
https://www.flightglobal.com/australia- ... 83.article
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Please add hypothetical / possible RAF F-35A</summary>
<detail>It is possible that the UK could turn some its F-35B order into the cheaper F-35A model. Loadouts would be identical to the F-35B, minus the gunpods.</detail>
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<type>Add</type>
<summary>Add Pakistani 271 Yarmook[Damen OPV 1900] 2021 </summary>
<detail>Pakistan took deliver of 2 Damen 1900 OPV starting in 2020. 271 Yarmook and 272 Tabuk. 1 medium Helo/UAV pad and 2 RHIB. Aft Phalanx Mk 15 CIWS likely off the retired Amazons. Radar seems to be civ nav radars, Aselan ALPER LPI Radar, EW and EO/IR likely Turkish as well. Deck gun not installed yet. Doesn't look like chaff and flare launchers either.</detail>
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https://twitter.com/CavasShips/status/1 ... 90/photo/1
https://twitter.com/YorukIsik/status/12 ... 88/photo/1
https://twitter.com/US5thFleet/status/1 ... 05/photo/2
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... s-corvette
https://www.aselsan.com.tr/en/capabilit ... -lpi-radar
https://quwa.org/2020/05/27/pakistan-na ... -corvette/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yarmook-class_corvette
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