THE THREAD!!!

[AW1Steve]

ORIGINAL: Historiker

ORIGINAL: sprior

Besides that, here at least, it's also about India, Palestine, Malaya, Korea, Suez Canal Zone, Kenya, Cyprus, Suez 1956, Borneo, Vietnam, Aden, Radfan, Oman, Dhofar, Northern Ireland, the Falklands War, the Gulf War, Bosnia, Kosovo, Sierra Leone, Iraq, Afghanistan and anywhere else you can think of that British service personnel have served.

We have the Volkstrauertag (national day of mourning) which is flexible the second sunday before advent. As it is flexible, it doesn't create a connection with a historic event, just with the ones that have fallen, foreign soldiers included.

So for me, there's a difference when this day is "celebrated" on a specific date, that caused... well, we all know what followed...

Also, I didn't know that this is the day to remember the dead of all conflicts - which makes a significant difference.

Perhaps as a "researcher" you might do a little before you take cheap shots. [:@]

[Historiker]

Well, I guess its time to leave here.

Mea culpa, but expressing regret doesn't matter anyway. So I'm oviously misplaced here.

Best wishes to you all!

[Historiker]

Perhaps as a "researcher" you might do a little before you take cheap shots.

Trying to imagine what others feel is obviously only my duty...

November 11th influenced my family drastically in a way I doubt any other one here was influenced. But that doesn't matter, I've insulted, I am to blame! [&o]
Doesn't matter if he said he's sorry, beat him, beat him!

[sprior]

I hate to say it but if you want to be bitter about the outcome of WW1 then maybe you should lay the blame closer to home.

And if I were you I wouldn't lay claim to being the only loser from that war, I can identify members of my parents family whose names are on war memorials in small villages (and it doesn't get much more drastic that that).

[Grollub]

Hmmm ... Dragon Age: Origins in my mailbox. Guess I have to take a short AE break ... [:'(]

[sprior]

ORIGINAL: Grollub

Hmmm ... Dragon Age: Origins in my mailbox. Guess I have take a short AE break ... [:'(]

heretic!

[Nikademus]

ORIGINAL: Historiker

Perhaps as a "researcher" you might do a little before you take cheap shots.

Trying to imagine what others feel is obviously only my duty...

November 11th influenced my family drastically in a way I doubt any other one here was influenced. But that doesn't matter, I've insulted, I am to blame! [&o]
Doesn't matter if he said he's sorry, beat him, beat him!

Veteran's day would also apply to those who served in the Wermacht and Japanese armed forces. I know some would bristle at that comment, but like i said, its not about politics the way i see it on this day. Its about those who served....period. I don't consider every German soldier who fought in WWII a "Nazi", many were soldiers....they went and fought where they were told. Same for the Japanese. I'm not interested in pointing fingers, bringing up atrocities etc etc etc. They have no place here....on this day.

Its simply about honoring the fallen....and those that served. Like i said.....its a major big a$$ difference between one who debates in safety, or plays a computer wargame and one who actually had to put it on the line. There is no comparison. When i meet a vet in one of the situations i've discussed, debated or wargamed, I feel a mixture a awe, respect and even shame.

[Grollub]

ORIGINAL: sprior

ORIGINAL: Grollub

Hmmm ... Dragon Age: Origins in my mailbox. Guess I have take a short AE break ... [:'(]

heretic!

You forgot "Blasphemer" as well [:'(]

[sprior]

ORIGINAL: Grollub

ORIGINAL: sprior

ORIGINAL: Grollub

Hmmm ... Dragon Age: Origins in my mailbox. Guess I have take a short AE break ... [:'(]

heretic!

You forgot "Blasphemer" as well [:'(]

You might be heading for a stoning soon.

[Grollub]

ORIGINAL: sprior

ORIGINAL: Grollub

ORIGINAL: sprior




heretic!

You forgot "Blasphemer" as well [:'(]

You might be heading for a stoning soon.

"Jehova" [:'(]

[Historiker]

ORIGINAL: sprior

I hate to say it but if you want to be bitter about the outcome of WW1 then maybe you should lay the blame closer to home.

And if I were you I wouldn't lay claim to being the only loser from that war, I can identify members of my parents family whose names are on war memorials in small villages (and it doesn't get much more drastic that that).

I'm not blameing anyone. I came in here and felt the armistice was celebrated. That's why I said I'm wondering.

I was then told this is to remember the fallen. I said I appreciate this and that I'm sorry, that I didn't intend to annoy or insult anyone.


When Steve came here to insult me personally, I felt - I know that's stupid - that I might explain why that date is special to me and my family. But obviously that doesn't matter as I've "insulted the memory of fallen" in some eyes here.

Because of that date, my family didn't only loose much what was rightfully ours in this war and the one that followed, we didn't just loose some soldiers in the field, we were also persecuted by the regime that manage to follow by claiming it'll end the "shame" of this date...

So it is a special feeling. I never wanted anyone to participate in it. I also didn't intend to tell the story. My only fault was mistaking this here as a celebration of the reason that cause all mentioned above to my family.

If that's a crime and if it's a crime not to take a big "research" (He also typted that before reading all my postings) when typing a small sentence, if it doesn't matter that I said I'm sorry, that I didn't intend to insult and annoy anyone...

Well, than its the best for us all when I never disturb your harmony again!

[sprior]

ORIGINAL: Grollub

"Jehova" [:'(]

No halibut for you tonight!

[Grollub]

[:'(]

[Historiker]

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

ORIGINAL: Historiker

Perhaps as a "researcher" you might do a little before you take cheap shots.

Trying to imagine what others feel is obviously only my duty...

November 11th influenced my family drastically in a way I doubt any other one here was influenced. But that doesn't matter, I've insulted, I am to blame! [&o]
Doesn't matter if he said he's sorry, beat him, beat him!

Veteran's day would also apply to those who served in the Wermacht and Japanese armed forces. I know some would bristle at that comment, but like i said, its not about politics the way i see it on this day. Its about those who served....period. I don't consider every German soldier who fought in WWII a "Nazi", many were soldiers....they went and fought where they were told. Same for the Japanese. I'm not interested in pointing fingers, bringing up atrocities etc etc etc. They have no place here....on this day.

Its simply about honoring the fallen....and those that served. Like i said.....its a major big a$$ difference between one who debates in safety, or plays a computer wargame and one who actually had to put it on the line. There is no comparison. When i meet a vet in one of the situations i've discussed, debated or wargamed, I feel a mixture a awe, respect and even shame.

Thank you nik. But while I didn't intend anything evil, I now feel godawful. Not only does this cause me to remember the fate of my innocent family members, I also have to take insults, I don't think I deserve.

Maybe its just the gray weather that makes me so depressing, but I know feel... well, deeply hurt. Anyway, I am still sorry, I was a guest here and guests have to respect the etiquette.

[Nikademus]

ORIGINAL: Historiker

Thank you nik. But while I didn't intend anything evil, I now feel godawful. Not only does this cause me to remember the fate of my innocent family members, I also have to take insults, I don't think I deserve.

Maybe its just the gray weather that makes me so depressing, but I know feel... well, deeply hurt. Anyway, I am still sorry, I was a guest here and guests have to respect the etiquette.

no prob. I sometimes tell people that with my heritage, i can say that i've both won and lost two world wars. No wonder i'm strange. (Father's side - English. Mother's side Deutch)

Strange, but it allows me to see both sides of an argument most of the time. [:D]

[DuckofTindalos]

ORIGINAL: sprior

ORIGINAL: Grollub

Hmmm ... Dragon Age: Origins in my mailbox. Guess I have take a short AE break ... [:'(]

heretic!

I haven't even opened AE since I installed Dragonage...[:'(]

[BrucePowers]

Good day all[:)]

[AW1Steve]

ORIGINAL: Historiker

ORIGINAL: sprior

I hate to say it but if you want to be bitter about the outcome of WW1 then maybe you should lay the blame closer to home.

And if I were you I wouldn't lay claim to being the only loser from that war, I can identify members of my parents family whose names are on war memorials in small villages (and it doesn't get much more drastic that that).

I'm not blameing anyone. I came in here and felt the armistice was celebrated. That's why I said I'm wondering.

I was then told this is to remember the fallen. I said I appreciate this and that I'm sorry, that I didn't intend to annoy or insult anyone.


When Steve came here to insult me personally, I felt - I know that's stupid - that I might explain why that date is special to me and my family. But obviously that doesn't matter as I've "insulted the memory of fallen" in some eyes here.

Because of that date, my family didn't only loose much what was rightfully ours in this war and the one that followed, we didn't just loose some soldiers in the field, we were also persecuted by the regime that manage to follow by claiming it'll end the "shame" of this date...

So it is a special feeling. I never wanted anyone to participate in it. I also didn't intend to tell the story. My only fault was mistaking this here as a celebration of the reason that cause all mentioned above to my family.

If that's a crime and if it's a crime not to take a big "research" (He also typted that before reading all my postings) when typing a small sentence, if it doesn't matter that I said I'm sorry, that I didn't intend to insult and annoy anyone...

Well, than its the best for us all when I never disturb your harmony again!

Oh , trust me, I haven't insulted you personally. I critized the "deed" not the doer. Now I will critized the doer, just so there is no mistake. How many times since you have joined us have you had people suggest that you not stir up political discussion on this forum? One mistake is just that. A number of them constitutes a pattern. Now comes the personal insult part. I suggest that you might be a "Troll" looking to stir up pain, anguish and anger for your own satisfaction. Apologies are all well and good, but fleeting and temporary. You know the rules , customs and procedures here Historiker. Try and follow them. Consistantly.If you unable to do so, then perhaps you should take a time out.

I didn't read all your postings , that's correct (as most hadn't been typed yet). When one is punched in the face , one doesn't wait around to see if it's followed by a smile, and a a "oops, my mistake". Take some time off, and use it to grow up. Insult over. [:@]

[BrucePowers]

ORIGINAL: sprior

ORIGINAL: Grollub

"Jehova" [:'(]

No halibut for you tonight!

The only thing I can say is Bless You. I can't stand halibut[:D]

[Nikademus]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

I haven't even opened AE since I installed Dragonage...[:'(]

so tell me more about Supremacy at Sea.