Aussie Affair, Beta's Twilight

[Luskan]

Close enough. I took Kiska without a fight this turn.

I did get hurt at Rangoon again - lots of planes on the ground. I haven't timed an bomber interception yet, so this has been very poor play on my part. I've decided to pull the crappy pilots out of rangoon - just leave some search planes. These crap pilots will have to train at singapore.

As to whether or not I send better pilots in to replace them? Not sure I want to waste them on level bombers. I want to save them for when I really really need to sink CVs. At any cost. Might be too late.

[Raverdave]

Once again I launch a huge air attack against Rangoon smashing 81 fighters on the ground.........not one took to the air to defend it's own base. The fighter jocks were really pissed at that but the bomber drivers were more than happy. My plan for Rangoon is simple..bomb it back to the stoneage.

Luskan has made a small landing in the North Pacific with the grand idea of what? Taking control of the aleutians? More likely it is simply a diversion for something else that is going on. I will boot the Japs out of the aleutians, after all I have something like 6 or 7 RCTs sitting around doing nothing but building snow men, it is just a question of getting the shipping available to carry the troops. I am still hamstrung by a lack of sea-lift ability.

My grasp on PNG is getting firmer, with the 6th Aussie Div well dug in at Lae. In addition to that I have another 7 inf Divisons sitting at PM waiting for Luskan's move.i.............f it ever comes.
B-17 should soon be starting flight operation out of PM, and I intend to do to Rabal what I have done to Rangoon.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/28/42

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TF 83 troops unloading over beach at Kiska Island, 92,35


Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported

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Sub attack at 54,44

Japanese Ships
AK Kinka Maru
AK Eizan Maru
PG Myoken Maru
PG Takunan Maru #3
PG Oi Maru

Allied Ships
SS Tuna

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Sub attack at 54,44

Japanese Ships
AK Shinamogawa Maru
PG Myoken Maru
PG Takunan Maru #3
PG Oi Maru

Allied Ships
SS Tuna

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 26
Beaufort V-IX x 6
P-40B Tomahawk x 42
B-25C Mitchell x 130

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 33 destroyed, 17 damaged[:D]
A6M2 Zero: 31 destroyed, 22 damaged[:D]

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 17 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
696 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

Airbase hits 28
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 155

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
21 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
15 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
7 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 26th Division, at 45,25


Allied aircraft
I-16c x 24
SB-2c x 15


Allied aircraft losses
I-16c: 2 destroyed
SB-2c: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x I-16c bombing at 2000 feet
6 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
6 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x I-16c bombing at 2000 feet
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ASW attack at 55,44

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 9
PC Ch 8
PC Showa Maru #5
PC Showa Maru #3
PC Shonan Maru #7
PC Shonan Maru #6
PC Sonan Maru #6
PC Gamitsu Maru #1
PG Zuiko Maru
PG Saiko Maru
PG Magan Maru
PG Koei Maru
PG Keijo Maru
PG Edo Maru
PG Chosa Maru
PG Hashidate
MSW Tama Maru #2
MSW Ranzan Maru
MSW Fukeui Maru #7
MSW Atsu Maru
MSW Asahi Maru
MSW Wa 2
MSW Wa 1

Allied Ships
SS Sailfish

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TF 51 troops unloading over beach at Sag Sag, 57,88


Japanese ground losses:
74 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Kiska Island

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2742 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 82 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kiska Island base !!!

[Raverdave]

A quick carrier raid on Rangoon nets some hits! The RN still has some life in it[:)]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/29/42

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ASW attack at 58,44

Japanese Ships
PG Myoken Maru
PG Takunan Maru #3
PG Oi Maru

Allied Ships
SS Guardfish

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Day Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 29,34


Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 9
Swordfish x 28


Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 13 destroyed, 21 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Atago
BB Nagato, Torpedo hits 1
BB Mutsu, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CL Oi, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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ASW attack at 52,94

Japanese Ships
SS RO-33

Allied Ships
MSW Mildura
MSW Bunbury
DD Whipple
DD Bulmer

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Sub attack at 61,89

Japanese Ships
ML Ma 1
ML Ma 2
ML Washizaki
ML Hoko

Allied Ships
SS Cachalot


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Ground combat at Sag Sag

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 620 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Sag Sag base !!!

[Luskan]

Well the CV raid I wasn't expecting. But this turn raver's level bombers came in at rangoon and 5 of my fighters managed to engage. Finally I shot down a couple of fighters, damaged a few bombers that didn't make it home.

As for the aleutians, I doubt Raver will bothe.r

Allied troops at Lunga and Lae is bad news - but the good news is my front line is rushing up to meet them. The contest for PNG is about to start, and I am confident that Raver's heavies won't be doing the damage he thinks - and also that my myriad of units are equal to the task I have set them. Of late I've been spreading out throughout the SRA more evenly.

There were lots of little unmanned bases - they're all being manned and built up (since most of my strongholds are complete now). I have strategic-ly- placed reserve supplies in places that Raver's bombers wont hit them, and I've got to admit I've been impressed with the amount of firepower I'd be abler to reroute to china. The question rises again . . . A Chinese offensive? My aim wouldn't be to win, but to savage Raver's troops badly enough (force him to fight) that I could delay his inevitable chinese offensives due about 6/44 (or 1/44!).

[Raverdave]

Luskan is thinking of a Chinese offensive? Well that is NOT good news, as my Chinese troops are even now STILL recovering from his Dec'41/Jan'42 campaign.................I am at a loss to see how I can stop him, certainly at this point of the game.[:(]

[Luskan]

I've got unsurpassed firepower in China. Unfortunately I haven't been preparing for a chinese offensive. My supply stockpiles are elsewhere - it will take a while for me to build one in China for the war.

[Raverdave]

And now Luskan can kiss good-bye to all that oil he was getting from Rangoon:-

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/30/42

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Sub attack at 29,29

Japanese Ships
SS I-164, hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CL Birmingham, Torpedo hits 1
DD Paladin
DD Pakenham
DD Foxhound
DD Van Ghent

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Sub attack at 61,89

Japanese Ships
ML Kyosai
ML Ma 2
ML Ma 1
ML Hoko

Allied Ships
SS Cachalot

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 3

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 19
Beaufort V-IX x 9
P-40B Tomahawk x 19
B-25C Mitchell x 94

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 5 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 5 destroyed
B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 13 damaged

Oil hits 19[:D] BooM !

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
26 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
23 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
17 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
13 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 2

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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ASW attack at 28,34

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 20
PG Yoshida Maru
PG Unkai Maru #1
PG Tosho Maru
PG Shotoku Maru
PG Shosei Maru
PG Shoei Maru
PG Shinko Maru #5
PG Shinko Maru #2
PG Shinko Maru #1
PG Shinko Maru #3
PG Seikai Maru
PG Nishho Maru
PG Nikkai Maru
PG Kyo Maru #8
PG Kozan Maru
PG Kongosan Maru
PG Kogyoku Maru
PG Hong Kong Maru
PG Hirotama Maru
PG Heijo Maru
PG Hayakafuku Maru
PG Choko Maru #2
PG Choan Maru #2

Allied Ships
SS S-38, hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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TF 18 troops unloading over beach at Finschafen, 55,87


Japanese ground losses:
124 casualties reported

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TF 51 troops unloading over beach at Arawe, 57,89


Japanese ground losses:
120 casualties reported

[String]

ORIGINAL: Luskan

I've got unsurpassed firepower in China. Unfortunately I haven't been preparing for a chinese offensive. My supply stockpiles are elsewhere - it will take a while for me to build one in China for the war.

Why do you need to stockpile it? .. in my PBEM that started from may 1942 in which the situation in china is exactly the same as in scenario 15 i had NO problems with supply, i sent no supply in and yet i launched an all out offensive on all fronts and have over 700 planes there conducting ground attacks..

[Luskan]

I'm guessing I have a lot more firepower in China than you. Also, I'm guessing that your troops have had some attrition - mine are all fully supported and at 100%. They'll stay that way if I've got supplies on hand (and enough troops in the replacement pool) to replace any losses I take.

Operation End Run was launched today. CV division 1 sailed from base fully fuelled and packing a punch.

[String]

ORIGINAL: Luskan

I'm guessing I have a lot more firepower in China than you. Also, I'm guessing that your troops have had some attrition - mine are all fully supported and at 100%. They'll stay that way if I've got supplies on hand (and enough troops in the replacement pool) to replace any losses I take.

Operation End Run was launched today. CV division 1 sailed from base fully fuelled and packing a punch.

Maybe, i just sent the imperial guards, almost all of my armor, all of the southern area artillery, pulled out most of the arty in Kwantung and one division too (no i didn't pay PP's for them) .. The chinese have about 200k troops in Kweilin and Hengchow that are going to be totally surrounded real soon and about 100k in Homan that are probably doomed also. North is being overrun and so is the south. Hanoi-Canton railroad is open. Changsha resources and factories are in ruins..

[Luskan]

Whatever Raver's pilots are smoking, it is giving them hallucinations! Obviously he needs to start either 1. A drug screening program, or 2. administering truth serum on his returning pilots. For starters, tyhe oil production at Rangoon hasn't been hit badly enough to not be instantly repaired - this turn or last turn. Second, well, he shot down less than a third of the oscars he claimed to kill. The actual totals (including op losses, losses due to flak etc) were actually about even.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/02/42

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Sub attack at 52,94

Japanese Ships
SS RO-33

Allied Ships
ML Pro Patria, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage - stuff this - I want transports damnnit!
PG Isabel

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 50

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 53
Beaufort V-IX x 8
P-40B Tomahawk x 55
B-25C Mitchell x 130

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 43 destroyed, 6 damaged - Not even close. I lost 9 according to the intel page, (therefore 9 lost pilots) although MANY more planes were damaged than 6. It looked really bad on the combat replay because all of the AVG pilots have got kills - so there were a dozen "pilot X of the AVG gets kill 6) while there were only 6 jap pilots adding to their kill tallys (green pilots).

But green no longer really - and Rangoon is no longer open season. He's going to have to try something else!

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 2 destroyed, 13 damaged
Beaufort V-IX: 1 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 9 destroyed, 12 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 7 destroyed, 18 damaged - adds up about the same as the intel page.

Oil hits 27 - dreaming.

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
33 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
22 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
18 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
22 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
11 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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TF 51 troops unloading over beach at Gasmata, 59,90


Japanese ground losses:
62 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Attu Island

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2091 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 16 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Attu Island base !!! - My empire's borders expand ever further.

As you can see, things are hotting up. I'm reconning in and around the Solomons for Raver's troops. i've got 1 unit of badguys at Lunga, and some at PNG. Raver said there were troops at lae but my recon troops at finschafen didn't see any activity. Maybe Raver is a liar? Wouldn't be the first time.

[Luskan]

This turn Raver tried the liberators at Rangoon. A smaller number of fighters were there to meet them - but the 50 odd liberators that attacked lost 9 to flak, airpower and operational losses. No fighter escort made my boys job easy.

On the downside, they did blow up another 15 planes on the ground. irritating, and costs me points, but I've got 900 a6m2s in the replacement pool, and I'ev got 400 oscars so I'm not worried yet.

Thunderstorms this turn in the area, so we'll see if Raver decides to fly anyway.

In other news my ASW team off Rabaul blew the Cachalot to hell, and I increased nakajima engine production to cover my costs as it were.

Oh, and bad guys spotted at Lae.

[Raverdave]

Luskan got hit bad this turn at Rangoon, and is none too happy about it either. While he may have a heap of aircraft in his pool at this rate he will run out of AC frames by the end of '42. He is going to HAVE to do something about Akyab and do it fast.................and I am counting on this fact as I have a nice surprise waiting for when he does. In the turn before this one on of my fast transport TFs got caught by a rather large bombardment TF at GC and got mauled.

The first raid by the B-17s flew against Rabal today, but at 33,000 feet they had little or no trouble................but the BDA of the target showed how usless it is bombing from this hight. However I have little choice as there are no fighters that can yet escort the bombers that far from PM. So it is a case of stay high and be safe.

I had put a squadron of RAAF Kittyhawks at Lae but this turn the place was pounded by a bombardment TF..........most of the personal hurt or killed were the ground support crews for the fighters. I may have to re think having my fighters so far forward.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/05/42

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Naval bombardment of Lae, at 54,87


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk I: 4 destroyed

Japanese Ships
DD Yunagi
DD Asanagi
DD Ikazuchi
CL Abukuma
CL Kashima
CA Mogami
CA Ashigara
CA Maya
BB Ise
BB Kirishima
BB Hiei


Allied ground losses:
234 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 69
Beaufort V-IX x 14
P-40B Tomahawk x 50
B-25C Mitchell x 137

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 147 destroyed, 88 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 43 destroyed, 21 damaged
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Now that has GOT to hurt.
Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 2 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
544 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

Airbase hits 32
Airbase supply hits 16
Runway hits 261

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
16 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
9 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
13 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
13 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
7 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
2 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 273

Japanese aircraft losses
H8K Emily: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 5 destroyed, 5 damaged


Japanese ground losses:
65 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
27 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
19 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
30 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
20 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
15 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
8 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
13 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
15 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
10 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 33000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Tassafaronga at 66,97

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed, 15 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Farragut
DD King, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Waters
DD Lawrence
DMS Trevor
DE Albert T. Harris

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Lunga at 67,97

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Tjikarang

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Tassafaronga at 66,97

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Waters

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet

[Luskan]

Not to play the sulk, but I just can't give these results credit. At this stage in 1942 this result just isn't likely at Rangoon. Especially since the detail missing is that ALL these allied bombing raids are incredibly successful because they're flying in the midst of thunderstorms. Four raids in a row now. Starting to wonder if Raver even checks the weather? his planes certainly don't abort or get lost.

Was it a fluke? Of course every jap fanboy is thinking that, and allowing for that. Except its been 4 air raids in a row in 6 turns . . . this turn the same thing (only worse) happened at rangoon. My planes on the ground were ALL brand new (so damaged since they'd just come from the pool) so I couldn't evac my squadrons. The thunderstorms are still there, but the allied mediums (numbering 200) blast over 200 damaged aircraft to hell without breaking a sweat.

So the problem is that Raver can do this turn after turn - I can never evac damaged units because he can do it back to back missions, and now only blow all the existing aircraft at an airbase to hell (with unlikely odds) but he can also do it the next turn and doubly empty my replacement pools.

My replacement pools have been emptied in three turns just like that. I cannot afford to replace them - and nor will I get a chance to ever withdraw those units. They'll just keep sucking out replacements (unless I stop them - but I can't - each unit needs at least 1 active plane to transfer etc) that arrived damaged and stay damaged until they're blown up.

I think this war might just have had its penultimate moment. We've had game ending bugs before - the last one was that I couldn't get any human controlled tf to load oil or resources for 2 weeks. Autoconvoy could load them - but human controlled tfs couldn't (and lets face it - the autoconvoy was not working real well if there are millions of piles of resources sitting around at my ports but the home islands are all starving (in the red for supply). Fortunately for us the lastpatch fixed that and I spent two weeks playing catch up. Now this (which in spite of my annoyance at getting bruised, I think is a big fat bug).

Question is, would this still be a problem if Raver and I had not started this game pre-beta???

Having doubts.

[Capt. Harlock]

They'll just keep sucking out replacements (unless I stop them - but I can't - each unit needs at least 1 active plane to transfer etc) that arrived damaged and stay damaged until they're blown up.

I think this war might just have had its penultimate moment.

It'll be a great pity if you have to abandon the game, but I can certainly see your point. Ideally there should be an option to prevent the individual air units from drawing replacements--which in time will essentially disband them. Is there any possibility you could evacuate the squadrons on board cargo ships?

[Raverdave]

So what is to be done? I Really REALLY don't want to abandon this game now..........we have simply come to far and I have too much on the go right now.....PNG is about to explode as is the solomans[:(] And I must admit that am getting worn down of "constantly" play '41/'42 like some ground hog day.

I have a few ideas to keep this game alive which I will email to Luskan when I get home tonight.

[WiTP_Dude]

Don't bomb for a day and let him evac those air groups to Bangkok?

[Raverdave]

More like don't bomb for a few days, let him evac. MRB are only allowed to bomb from a min hight of 12,000 for '42 LRB min hight 15,000 for '42.

First half of '43 MRB min bomb hight 9,000 and after June'43 down to 6,000. No skip bombing till after June '43.

LRB allowed to bomb from 6000 anytime from '43 onwards.

[ADavidB]

ORIGINAL: Raverdave

More like don't bomb for a few days, let him evac. MRB are only allowed to bomb from a min hight of 12,000 for '42 LRB min hight 15,000 for '42.

First half of '43 MRB min bomb hight 9,000 and after June'43 down to 6,000. No skip bombing till after June '43.

LRB allowed to bomb from 6000 anytime from '43 onwards.

Pardon me if you explained this some time back, but I'm curious - why did you choose those altitude restrictions for bombing? Are they related to some problem in the version of the game that you are playing? The only altitude issue that I remember seeing was the over-accuracy of B-17s flying over 30,000 feet.

Thanks -

Dave Baranyi

[WiTP_Dude]

I was thinking you could just pause to let him recover a few aircraft and fly the groups out. Then you can finish off whatever is left behind that was too damaged to escape. Otherwise he should just turn replacements off and wait until he has enough additional Zero groups to attempt a rescue.