OT: Corona virus

[MakeeLearn]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

MakeeLearn, are you a nurse or PA or similar? I didn't know you administered morphine and things like that.

I work in what would be called a Mental Health Home. We have people of all ages. I do have a Degree in Biology, as far as "Medical" I can administer Meds. And things above my training I can bring in a Nurse or Doctor or get permission to do things from them over the phone or fax. Iam in a Supervisor role but do I do many things myself... Meds, cleaning, cooking, paperwork, finding movies everyone wants to watch, just talking, etc. We run things like a "Home."

Iam like a "Little Corporal" I can lead and I can get off my horse and lend a hand [;)]

I really like what I do.

I had a job like that for awhile but I was not the supervisor.

What is really funny... visitors and new employees have mistaken me for a patient.[:D]

[Chickenboy]

Add this onto the very long list of 'costs' associated with prolonged extreme quarantine measures:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/coronav ... lainternal

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

Add this onto the very long list of 'costs' associated with prolonged extreme quarantine measures:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/coronav ... lainternal

I worked with someone who had TB. His immediate coworker caught it from him. I read where a lot of people have the bacteria that causes TB but may not get sick from it unless something happens to impact their immune system. When I had pneumonia a few years ago, they medical staff thought that I might have had TB because I was not responding to the treatments, at least initially. They put me in an isolation room. Then they figured out what it was.

Do you think that having viruses (phages) that attack the various strains but most especially the anti-biotic resistant ones would work effectively? Think of dispensing them with an inhaler like for asthmatics?

[Lokasenna]

I took the last 4 weeks off from this place.

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

Richard Branson Says Killing Animals for Food Will Be a Thing of the Past
March 13, 2019
https://www.livekindly.co/richard-brans ... hing-past/

"In the blog post from last year, Branson wrote, “I believe we will look back and be shocked at what was the accepted way we killed animals en masse for food.”

He continued, “I think that in the future clean and plant-based meat will become the norm, and in 30 years it is unlikely animals will need to be killed for food anymore.”"

Of course it will. Lab-grown meat will be how we get our meat in the future.

I saw a "Lab to Slab" billboard on the last episode of Westworld. Definitely realistic.

[fcooke]

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn





I work in what would be called a Mental Health Home. We have people of all ages. I do have a Degree in Biology, as far as "Medical" I can administer Meds. And things above my training I can bring in a Nurse or Doctor or get permission to do things from them over the phone or fax. Iam in a Supervisor role but do I do many things myself... Meds, cleaning, cooking, paperwork, finding movies everyone wants to watch, just talking, etc. We run things like a "Home."

Iam like a "Little Corporal" I can lead and I can get off my horse and lend a hand [;)]

I really like what I do.

I had a job like that for awhile but I was not the supervisor.

What is really funny... visitors and new employees have mistaken me for a patient.[:D]

I feel like I should be a patient some days....but I am social distancing myself from the TVs.....

[Canoerebel]

Hey, Lokasenna, welcome back. You were missed and, several times last week, mentioned.

I'm not familiar with the term "plant-based meat." I don't know if that means meat substitutes like soy or, instead, animals grown in labs. Whatever it means, I'm pretty sure that most Americans in rural, semi-rural and small town environments will continue getting their meat the old-fashioned way. I know many people who have cattle and chickens. Many others who hunt. They won't change, at least not easily. It could well be a different matter for urban areas and for those who conscientiously oppose meat production practices. Of course, that's IMO.

[fcooke]

Had a venison fest a few days ago. The guy who sourced the venison has asked me about the travel patterns of the wild turkeys on my property....I suspect the 'wild turkey' fest is next......

[RangerJoe]

What do you do with all of the animals if it all became meat from a factory? How about the over population of deer? There is a lot of agricultural land that is not suitable for crops, instead it is used for animals.

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Hey, Lokasenna, welcome back. You were missed and, several times last week, mentioned.

I'm not familiar with the term "plant-based meat." I don't know if that means meat substitutes like soy or, instead, animals grown in labs. Whatever it means, I'm pretty sure that most Americans in rural, semi-rural and small town environments will continue getting their meat the old-fashioned way. I know many people who have cattle and chickens. Many others who hunt. They won't change, at least not easily. It could well be a different matter for urban areas and for those who conscientiously oppose meat production practices. Of course, that's IMO.

Well, my ears weren't itching or anything.

Noticed that the IHME model hasn't been updated for new by-August-4th casualty estimates in at least a week. We're already above the pre-reopening announcement estimates (~70K) by almost 10K deaths, in the official count.

I've had some bean-based "meat" before. It's OK. Once lab-grown meat is a real thing, I've got no problems switching to that.

Most Americans in rural/semi-rural/small towns aren't the source of our enormous meat demands - there just aren't enough of them compared to the number of people in cities. Small scale operations of real animal harvesting would probably still serve them just fine, if they didn't want lab-grown meat (or couldn't get it).

[Canoerebel]

IHME was updated yesterday or the day before, as noted in one of my posts earlier today.

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

What do you do with all of the animals if it all became meat from a factory? How about the over population of deer? There is a lot of agricultural land that is not suitable for crops, instead it is used for animals.

And there is a lot of land that is suitable for crops but is instead used for animals or the crops to feed them. Here are stats just for Iowa (offered without independent vetting of their claims and obviously not every acre used for pigs could be converted to crops, but a large portion of them could be - Iowa just isn't that geographically diverse):

https://www.iowapork.org/news-from-the- ... ork-facts/
6200 pig farms
22 million pigs at any one time (that's a lot of grain being used to feed pigs)
25% of all corn/soybean acreage in Iowa is used just to feed these pigs

https://www.lhf.org/learning-fields/cro ... arm-facts/
Per 2012 numbers, produces the most eggs and pork of any state (and corn/soybeans)
1.3M acres of pastureland (not all of this is used for food-animal production obviously)
30.6M acres of farmland, of which 26.25M acres are crops (so perhaps as much as 6.5M acres are used to feed pigs alone)

Lab-grown meat has a lot of benefits all over the economy, if/when we get there, particularly for allocation of resources on farms.

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

IHME was updated yesterday or the day before, as noted in one of my posts earlier today.

The August 4th total? Because it's shown 134K by August 4th for a week+. Maybe that's still their current, but I couldn't tell from a quick check if it was "we still think this" or "this was our latest run of the scenario which was a week ago."

If we stay plateaued maybe that's realistic, but if we see a spike in cases due to any premature reopenings, then it's not.

[MakeeLearn]

H.R.6666 WHO “Contact Tracing” To Forcibly Remove People From Their Homes?
May 11, 2020


Link


"House proposal HR 6666, “The TRACE Act,” “To authorize the Secretary of Health and Human Services to award grants to eligible entities to conduct diagnostic forced testing for COVID–19, and related activities such as contact tracing, through mobile health units and, as necessary, at individuals’ residences, and for other purposes” violates the very idea of a civil society. It is a stunningly illegal power grab beyond what the Constitution offers the Congress, and an outright assault on the people to be deplored by all. And, it is also a massive waste of $100 billion – allocated for 2020 alone."


H.R.6666 - COVID-19 Testing, Reaching, And Contacting Everyone (TRACE) Act

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-con ... xt?r=2&s=1

[Canoerebel]

IHME's updated US mortality projection is 137k by August 4, if that's what you're looking for (I may not be comprehending the point you're making).

Georgia may be the bellwether for all this. We began gradually easing countermeasures 18 days ago. So far, so good. From my seat it seems like the easing wasn't premature. I gather from Chickenboy's post a few hours back that he feels the same about Texas. My daughter and son-in-law feel the same about Tennessee. But there is no doubt there are jurisdictions where easing wouldn't be prudent right now.

[MakeeLearn]

They just LOVE them acronyms don't they!

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Anxiety From Reactions to Covid-19 Will Destroy At Least Seven Times More Years of Life Than Can Be Saved by Lockdowns

https://www.justfacts.com/news_covid-19 ... oyed_saved

Huh?

Compared to what, the baseline without the existence of COVID? That's a dumb comparison. It's not like COVID wouldn't exist if there weren't lockdowns (quite the opposite in fact).

This "article" sets off my BS alarms.

[Lokasenna]

Doublepost.

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

IHME's updated US mortality projection is 137k by August 4, if that's what you're looking for (I may not be comprehending the point you're making).

Georgia may be the bellwether for all this. We began gradually easing countermeasures 18 days ago. So far, so good. From my seat it seems like the easing wasn't premature. I gather from Chickenboy's post a few hours back that he feels the same about Texas. My daughter and son-in-law feel the same about Tennessee. But there is no doubt there are jurisdictions where easing wouldn't be prudent right now.

Yes, that's the number I was looking at.

The state-by-state transmission number over on rt.live appears to be good data, although the confidence interval for recent dates for Texas and Georgia includes values higher than 1.0 (it looks like the data is refined over time as well and is about 7-days delayed).

[MakeeLearn]

"This ain't what it looks like, mister. I just like them pretty acronyms."

[MakeeLearn]

MUST WATCH: Debunking the Narrative (With Prof. Dolores Cahill)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avc6_ftzk3w


" Dolores Cahill, Professor, University College Dublin

Prof. Cahill received her degree in Molecular Genetics from Trinity College Dublin (1989)

and her PhD in Immunology from Dublin City University in 1994.

She was group leader of the Protein Technology Group in the Max-Planck-Institute of Molecular Genetics, Berlin, Germany (1996-2003) She co-founded a biotechnology company, Protagen AG (www.protagen.de) in Dortmund to commercialise this technology.

Since 2005, she is Professor of Translational Science at the UCD School of Medicine and Medical Sciences.

Her research, publication and patent record is in high content protein/antibody arrays and their biomedical applications.

Application include the characterisation of antibodies specificity (including therapeutic antibodies), biomarker discovery validation, diagnostics, assay development, protein-interaction studies, proteomics, large scale/systems biology research. "