Racing the Sunrise: RA 4.0--Japanese Side

John 3rd · Post by **John 3rd** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:03 pm

Would that be THESE Subs? Perhaps the 120 mines that just got laid on the coast there?

John 3rd · Post by **John 3rd** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:04 pm

These as well?

zuluhour · Post by **zuluhour** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:36 pm

As an AFB this just went from very scary to horrifying![X(]

ny59giants · Post by **ny59giants** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:52 pm

You beat John by two things. Focus on land combat and logistics. He hates them both! [:D]

MAurelius · Post by **MAurelius** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:59 pm

ORIGINAL: zuluhour

As an AFB this just went from very scary to horrifying![X(]

just now???

- that happened about 50 turns ago... but it is a perfect moment to show yourself what is possible as the Japanese (playing both sides as I am)...

anyway - congrats.... and keep pushing... perfect opportunity to finish him off - once and for all...

a BB lost? - well... a minor price paid for the overall victory in the Pacific

John 3rd · Post by **John 3rd** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:07 pm

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

You beat John by two things. Focus on land combat and logistics. He hates them both! [:D]

"Logistics? We've got logistics coming out of our a**es!" Carroll O'Connor in Kelly's Heroes

Land Combat is the work of devil....

ny59giants · Post by **ny59giants** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:23 pm

Your logistics are a lot better than when I helped you out vs Dan many years ago. It still needs some polishing, but at least your not at the brink of crashing your economy, I hope. [:D]

John 3rd · Post by **John 3rd** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:02 pm

Well....

Cribtop · Post by **Cribtop** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:45 pm

Yes, those subs! [&o][:D]

My kids love the Power Rangers. Each episode ends with the Red Ranger saying "Samurai Rangers... Victory is ours!" as the bad guy explodes in the background. I'd say that's pretty much the stage you're at here. Frankly, the Allied carnage last turn could have been much worse with better weather.

MrBlizzard · Post by **MrBlizzard** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:37 pm

I'm wondering if Ceylon is a first step of your future India strategy?

) Yes I know that India and Australia are too big bites together but what do you think to do in next two years? ;-D I mean it will take so long for Allies to collect a new decent fleet so I think that island hopping and naval strategy are impossible for them. the only theater in which they can move now is India towards Burma because is the only land strategy available (in china he hasn't enough supplies to mount an offensive). so Ceylon is an island and you can conquer it easily but it's too cose to India so if you don't keep a fleet there he could conquer it back in future when KB is away. so IMHO is a good strategy only as first step for India or for a trap too: you let him landing and then you lock the door again. An alternative interesting possibility for you is getting New Zealand, he cant oppone anything to you now by sea!

EDIT: I forgot, be careful to coconuts, its the only thing he can throw to you now

And now let's see the rest of the show!!!

John 3rd · Post by **John 3rd** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:37 pm

New Zealand is interesting, however, I really don't to trip more reinforcements showing up. If I land one solider there then all sorts more trouble arrives for the Allies...

John 3rd · Post by **John 3rd** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:38 pm

Thought I would Post Allied ships sunk by their victory points as of June 2nd. Three screenshots coming up:

John 3rd · Post by **John 3rd** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:39 pm

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John 3rd · Post by **John 3rd** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:40 pm

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witpqs · Post by **witpqs** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:41 pm

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

New Zealand is interesting, however, I really don't to trip more reinforcements showing up. If I land one solider there then all sorts more trouble arrives for the Allies...

And where do they go without a navy?

John 3rd · Post by **John 3rd** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:25 pm

They'll have a Fleet in late-43/1944.

New Zealand makes some sense in that it is closer to my troop concentration and supplies in Australia.

What do people think? Ceylon or New Zealand in late-42?

witpqs · Post by **witpqs** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:31 pm

Well I tried to goad you into invading New Zealand quite a while back strictly for entertainment value of the AAR, so you know my vote!

janh · Post by **janh** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:43 pm

Hmmh, depends on your future plans I guess. What is the goal you'd want to achieve with either of them? That probably must be different in each case.

NZ would seem like a safe bet, something you can take your time with while or after LI operations. As long as Lew lacks a navy, you can almost at leisure go after it, perhaps even in a year. With the loss of NZ, Lew might feel another kick in his butt. He has a reasonable chance to reconquer OZ using NZ as staging, but retaking NZ without any large staging area and plenty of 4EB close by? Hard. A potential next step after NZ could be a cleanup up to Samoa, Pago Pago or any of these places. There are perhaps some ripe fruit to be harvested and a potential to bring about another CV encounter within the year with this strategy? With that, the CENTPAC route will probably be out of question for Lew, much as the OZ-DEI/SRA routes are already. I guess his hopes of winning would be almost gone with that, and the Allies ready to accept surrender...

Ceylon, on the other hand, must either be a huge raid, or the start of an even bolder move to take the Indian southern tip. Ceylon is nice in that you could threaten the indian east and west coast from there, even if you had only 2-3 divisions and some paras there for a single quick raid. As MB said, it is too close to LBA from the main land to keep a fleet in being there, and will not require Lew any CV to retake. So either in and out once the air battle over the island starts to go bad, or in and use it as a staging ground to expand into southern India. Depends on how quick your Cocos I forces can be turned around (afterwards, but I bet there won't be much AV left there now) and what else you can scavenge in other theaters.
Also depends on how bold you want to play this, since a battle for Ceylon would surely be more to Lew's liking, and also upping his hopes a bit. I'd probably like that, it would keep the AAR on the verge for much longer.
A surge into southern India might even be suicidal, remembering CanoeRebel vs. Q-Ball (was it, right?), but could as well be such a surprise that it could be awesome in this game. Unless very lucky, you won't hold any of that by 44 anymore, though -- in contrast to NZ, but all that's just my guess.

MAurelius · Post by **MAurelius** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:53 pm

why not go for PH again? - you have complete naval superiority - and you might just seal the deal with the points there... if victory isn't certain already...

and it would be fun to read too

John 3rd · Post by **John 3rd** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:07 pm

I was speaking with Michael and also tosses out the thought that bringing the fight to Ceylon would provoke an Attritional Air Battle there. The advantages to that could be pretty good as well. By the time we could land in Ceylon a certain airplane going by the name of MISTER TOJO would be in production.

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