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RE: European Championships

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Well, Italy deserved it. They were the better team. They controlled the whole game.

England have done very well though. They have been the worst team in the tournament and they took Italy to a penalty shootout in the quarter-final. They can't pass the ball, they can't control the ball, they can't keep the ball. In fact, they can't play football at all. To get so far is an amazing achievement. They have been outplayed by everyone.

I would not be that harsh. They had a plan and could have perfectly worked. The thing is this is the maximum the Engish could do with the players they have at hand (I mean this British version of catenaccio). Chelsea has done a lot of harm methinks... [:D]

EDIT: victims of this style? Rooney and Gerrard...
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Well, Italy deserved it. They were the better team. They controlled the whole game.

England have done very well though. They have been the worst team in the tournament and they took Italy to a penalty shootout in the quarter-final. They can't pass the ball, they can't control the ball, they can't keep the ball. In fact, they can't play football at all. To get so far is an amazing achievement. They have been outplayed by everyone.
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Nicely summed up Mr S. We were frankly an embarrassment. Every time the same - Hart hoof upfield to an Italian (or to Rooney who loses the ball) and so the Italians come back for another attack.

Greece were slaughtered for their defensive tactics - but at least they meant to play that way. We had 30% of the possession and we didn't mean it.......

Appalling, thank god we are out because a game against Germany would be ridiculous...
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If i were the england coach, i wouldnt try to go for a penalty finnish... considering their record in that particular event.

Sorry guys, Big Italy ahead, little italy out,

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If i were the england coach, i wouldnt try to go for a penalty finnish... considering their record in that particular event.

Sorry guys, Big Italy ahead, little italy out,

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We didn't TRY for a penalty shoot out. We were rubbish and only got a penalty shoot-out because Italy had one of those nights when the ball wouldn't go in.
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So Joe Hart diligently studied the penalty takers tendencies...he forgot one thing however, when the players tend to kick to the left corner, that means he needs to dive to his RIGHT!!!!!
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But the thing is... England were not playing for the penalty shootout. They are not a very good team. The Italians outplayed them - it is as simple as that.
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But the thing is... England were not playing for the penalty shootout. They are not a very good team. The Italians outplayed them - it is as simple as that.
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See post 764
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So Joe Hart diligently studied the penalty takers tendencies...he forgot one thing however, when the players tend to kick to the left corner, that means he needs to dive to his RIGHT!!!!!

Penalty shootouts are a lottery. Best way to end a game when the Italians can't score though.
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But the thing is... England were not playing for the penalty shootout. They are not a very good team. The Italians outplayed them - it is as simple as that.
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See post 764

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But the thing is... England were not playing for the penalty shootout. They are not a very good team. The Italians outplayed them - it is as simple as that.


I think England were quite content to take their chances in a penalty shootout for the very fact that they were outplayed for 120 minutes by a better team.
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But the thing is... England were not playing for the penalty shootout. They are not a very good team. The Italians outplayed them - it is as simple as that.


I think England were quite content to take their chances in a penalty shootout for the very fact that they were outplayed for 120 minutes by a better team.

They had no choice in the matter.
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Joe Hart spent the last two weeks watching the last ten years of Italy penalities and what was the result STUPID FACES
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Joe Hart spent the last two weeks watching the last ten years of Italy penalities and what was the result STUPID FACES

Oh, you can't blame the goalkeeper. Penalty shootouts = lottery.
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Joe Hart spent the last two weeks watching the last ten years of Italy penalities and what was the result STUPID FACES

Oh, you can't blame the goalkeeper. Penalty shootouts = lottery.
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Joe Hart = one of the greatest keepers on the planet. Again I concur with my Aussie colleague.
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Joe Hart spent the last two weeks watching the last ten years of Italy penalities and what was the result STUPID FACES

Oh, you can't blame the goalkeeper. Penalty shootouts = lottery.
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Joe Hart = one of the greatest keepers on the planet. Again I concur with my Aussie colleague.

Wodin is an Aussie? I thought he was a Liverpudlian.
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Oh, you can't blame the goalkeeper. Penalty shootouts = lottery.
Warspite1

Joe Hart = one of the greatest keepers on the planet. Again I concur with my Aussie colleague.

Wodin is an Aussie? I thought he was a Liverpudlian.
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I was referring to you you muppet [;)] and your comment about the lottery.
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Oh, you can't blame the goalkeeper. Penalty shootouts = lottery.

Except when its England is on one side, then they just lose [;)]

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RE: European Championships

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Oh, you can't blame the goalkeeper. Penalty shootouts = lottery.

Except when its England is on one side, then they just lose [;)]

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Yes, statistics are horrible [X(] I think the 5 last times the English had to shoot penalties (Euro Cups and WCs) er... they were out. 100% [X(]

The Italians also were victims of this by the way. Last Euro Cup vs Spain and WC Final 1994 (US) vs Brazil. It is really a lottery.

And no one has said it yet. Pirlo is a legend. Penalty à la Panenka! Amazing footballer.
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Seaman and Shilton I had abit of hope they'd save a penalty or two..Hart was useless..he dived the same way everytime and spent more time acting the fool than concentrating...trying to be like Grobellar and failing. I mean that Pirlo penalty was a p#ss take on what he thought of Harts penalty saves. Honestly he said he spent two weeks watching the last ten years of Italian penalties and all he did was pull stupid faces. The Italian goalie on the other hand said he'd been watching naughty videos.
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RE: European Championships

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Just the one point goes to Warspite for guessing it would be a draw after extra time so no real change to the scoreboard.

Can I have your predictions for the semi-final before the first semi-final on Wednesday please?

Redcoat........22
Dixie............20
rogo727.......18
Zeta16.........18
Orm.............17
british exil....16
warspite1.....14
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