Lowpe (Japan) vs Wargamr (Allies)

[Lowpe]

The routine bombardment of Chungking:

[Lowpe]

Using a lot of Nicks and Oscar IIa in the ground bombing/strafing role in China.

[Lowpe]

Dec 12, 1942

Obligatory bombardment at Chungking.

[Lowpe]

Adak bombardments. Allied fleets are close by, hanging out under a 300+ fighter CAP.

Night Naval bombardment of Adak Island at 162,52

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima
BB Hiei
BB Haruna
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba
CA Chokai

Allied ground losses:
274 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 19
Port hits 3

F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Kirishima
BB Kirishima firing at 25th Infantry Division
F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Hiei
BB Hiei firing at Adak Island
BB Haruna firing at 25th Infantry Division
E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for CA Kinugasa
CA Kinugasa firing at 57th Coastal Artillery Regiment
CA Aoba firing at Adak Island
CA Chokai firing at Adak Island


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Night Naval bombardment of Adak Island at 162,52

Japanese Ships
BB Ise
BB Fuso

Allied ground losses:
316 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 15 (6 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Vehicles lost 17 (7 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 29
Port hits 1

BB Ise firing at Adak Island
BB Fuso firing at Adak Island

[Lowpe]

Dec 13, 1942

Chungking

[Lowpe]

Dec 14, 1942

6 miles of wood rough terrain to fully enclose Chungking. Another attack in 3 days or so.

This is the 4th attack on Chungking:

Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 126971 troops, 1745 guns, 1780 vehicles, Assault Value = 3848

Defending force 169274 troops, 175 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1094

Japanese adjusted assault: 3954

Allied adjusted defense: 869

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2772 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 243 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 40 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 45 disabled
Guns lost 24 (1 destroyed, 23 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
15501 casualties reported
Squads: 475 destroyed, 228 disabled
Non Combat: 279 destroyed, 265 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 28 (24 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Units destroyed 15

[Lowpe]

Allies think the game is broken since his subs cannot connect with the daily bombardments at Adak...

but really, there are some great pilots flying both ASW and Naval Search (day and night), plus several dedicated ASW killer groups, plus the ships only need go a few hexes.

To be effective, I think those subs need to shed their DL.

[PaxMondo]

Agreed. As long as you keep the DL up, they won't prosecute attacks without insanely high aggression, like in the 80's. There are very few of those in the game.

Then, with your ASW TF's, when they do pop their heads up, they are going to get attacked and that ends that.

So, the code is completely WAD to my knowledge.

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Allies think the game is broken since his subs cannot connect with the daily bombardments at Adak...

but really, there are some great pilots flying both ASW and Naval Search (day and night), plus several dedicated ASW killer groups, plus the ships only need go a few hexes.

To be effective, I think those subs need to shed their DL.

It is still early days though, when subs don't have fully working torpedoes. It doesn't really matter if those subs contact the bombardments. They're not likely to hit anything anyway.

He certainly won't get to them without controlling the air and picking off the ASW planes.

[mind_messing]

ORIGINAL: obvert

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Allies think the game is broken since his subs cannot connect with the daily bombardments at Adak...

but really, there are some great pilots flying both ASW and Naval Search (day and night), plus several dedicated ASW killer groups, plus the ships only need go a few hexes.

To be effective, I think those subs need to shed their DL.

It is still early days though, when subs don't have fully working torpedoes. It doesn't really matter if those subs contact the bombardments. They're not likely to hit anything anyway.

He certainly won't get to them without controlling the air and picking off the ASW planes.

A proper understanding of how DL works as a mechanic is pretty much key to getting anything to work with AE.

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: mind_messing

ORIGINAL: obvert

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Allies think the game is broken since his subs cannot connect with the daily bombardments at Adak...

but really, there are some great pilots flying both ASW and Naval Search (day and night), plus several dedicated ASW killer groups, plus the ships only need go a few hexes.

To be effective, I think those subs need to shed their DL.

It is still early days though, when subs don't have fully working torpedoes. It doesn't really matter if those subs contact the bombardments. They're not likely to hit anything anyway.

He certainly won't get to them without controlling the air and picking off the ASW planes.

A proper understanding of how DL works as a mechanic is pretty much key to getting anything to work with AE.

Correct. DL is a key concept for air and naval.

[Lowpe]

This is the end...either for Japan or the Allies.

Chungking is getting savaged from air and by ground:

Morning Air attack on 14th Chinese Corps, at 76,45 (Chungking)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 33

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
203 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
33 x Ki-45 KAIa Nick bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 49th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 14th Chinese Corps ...


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Morning Air attack on 14th Chinese Corps, at 76,45 (Chungking)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 82
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
509 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 39 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-45 KAIa Nick bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
28 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 59th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 77th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 68th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 60th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 48th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 74th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 14th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 59th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 77th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 68th Chinese Corps ...


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Morning Air attack on 28th New Chinese Division, at 76,45 (Chungking)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 66
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
536 casualties reported
Squads: 16 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
20 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
22 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 28th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 28th New Chinese Division ...
Also attacking 28th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 28th New Chinese Division ...
Also attacking 28th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 28th New Chinese Division ...
Also attacking 28th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 28th New Chinese Division ...
Also attacking 28th Chinese Corps ...
Afternoon Air attack on 74th Chinese Corps, at 76,45 (Chungking)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-45 KAIc Nick bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 74th Chinese Corps, at 76,45 (Chungking)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
65 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 7000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 71st Chinese Corps, at 76,45 (Chungking)

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 12
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 15
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
410 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 44 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 7000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
17 x Ki-45 KAIa Nick bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
15 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 7000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 70th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 71st Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 70th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 71st Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 70th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 71st Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 70th Chinese Corps ...


Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 9624 troops, 698 guns, 616 vehicles, Assault Value = 3751

Defending force 151669 troops, 148 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 739

Allied ground losses:
1665 casualties reported
Squads: 145 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 14 (14 destroyed, 0 disabled)

[Lowpe]

Chinese routed back to Paoshan:


Ground combat at 66,44 (near Paoshan)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10095 troops, 153 guns, 391 vehicles, Assault Value = 408

Defending force 12127 troops, 36 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 150

Japanese adjusted assault: 378

Allied adjusted defense: 136

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
184 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
3097 casualties reported
Squads: 98 destroyed, 32 disabled
Non Combat: 174 destroyed, 34 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 10 (9 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 8

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
1st Tank Division
33rd/A Division

Defending units:
24th Chinese Corps
54th Chinese/C Corps
38th New Chinese Division
33rd Base Group
China Air TaskForce
NCAC
11th Group Army
16th Chinese Base Force

[Lowpe]

The mid winter Adak invasion is loading/launched right now.

Two full divisions at 100%, an HQ at 50% or thereabouts, and some other forces which may or may not land.

This into minefields, an island that still has supply, 155mm guns, but has been bombarded steadily for a long, long time.

Night Naval bombardment of Adak Island at 162,52 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Ise
BB Fuso
BB Kirishima
BB Hiei
BB Haruna
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba
CA Nachi
CA Chokai

Allied ground losses:
955 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 15 destroyed, 69 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 20 disabled
Guns lost 51 (5 destroyed, 46 disabled)
Vehicles lost 20 (4 destroyed, 16 disabled)

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 42
Port hits 4

2nd Marine Defense Battalion firing at BB Ise
BB Ise firing at 2nd Marine Defense Battalion
F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Fuso
BB Fuso firing at 25th Infantry Division
F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Kirishima
BB Kirishima firing at Adak Island
BB Hiei firing at Adak Island
BB Haruna firing at Adak Island
CA Kinugasa firing at Adak Island
CA Aoba firing at Adak Island
CA Nachi firing at Adak Island
CA Chokai firing at 57th Coastal Artillery Regiment
57th Coastal Artillery Regiment firing at CA Chokai

[Lowpe]

Chungking is now surrounded, and with a dash of luck, might actually fall with the next attack, the 5th attack, but really I have planned for 7 attacks...

I might delay the Adak invasion depending upon the outcome at Chungking and the VP garnered thereby...

Two factories are r&d the Frank A with engine bonus already at 10%, it will come very early.

[Lowpe]

Dec 17, 1942

The long siege is over.


Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 126672 troops, 1744 guns, 1780 vehicles, Assault Value = 3803

Defending force 148815 troops, 132 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 690

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 4834

Allied adjusted defense: 457

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Chungking !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
789 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 166 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled

Allied ground losses:
188995 casualties reported
Squads: 4367 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 16314 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 101 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 194 (194 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 80

[Elessar2]

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[PaxMondo]

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[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe


Two factories are r&d the Frank A with engine bonus already at 10%, it will come very early.

Ohhh, very good news this …

[Lowpe]

Thanks, guys, but it really was a foregone conclusion. 5 attacks to take Chungking, with the first attack not even knocking a fort level off. 0 Units were trashed in taking Chungking, and all the troops are off marching on different vectors.

Both divisions should be fully loaded into a ton of AK-t, AMC, etc for the Adak invasion. They should be able to unload in one full turn, and the Yamato left the repair yard and will make the invasion or the day after.

I worry about a full scale Allied fleet sortie, and will need to attack Adak with surprise. I have mapped a route out that will let me do that, barring sig int detection. I need to get the invasion fleet in and out in one day, survive the winter weather and the CD guns. The prize is another US division and 24 total American units.

Meanwhile the mini KB is off Perth, undetected looking for an Allied cargo fleet. I bet though, that Oz is supplied from California though.