Andy Mac v PZB This time India will Stand !!!!

[traskott]

Very interesting your post about deployment of your english HQ and the use of reserves... [:)]

[Andy Mac]

[:D][:D][:D] BRITISH HQ's
 
Anyway last two turns quiet not a lot to say
 
Finishing off my re org to enable a sustainable fight in Burma still worried about gettingcaught badly by an ambush
 
231 RAF Group - 4 Sqns of Wellingtons, 1 of Liberators are the RAF Strategig Group
Tenth AF 90th and 19th Bomb Groups with B17's are the USAAF Equivalent.
 
221 Group and 225 Group RAF each with 5 - 6 Sqns of Blenheims/Bolingbrokes or RAAF Hudson I's are my main RAF medium groups supported by 4 - 6 Sqns of Hurricanes each
I also have starting to form up 8 Sqns of USAAF B25C's not all at anything like full strength but starting to assemble.
 
In total I will have 3 x Hvy Bomb Groups and 4 x Mixed Medium Bomb Groups in India before I am done supported by 1 USAAF P38 Group and 1 USAAF P40K/P39D Group and a coastal command Group (222 Group and a training command Group (227 Group)
 
It is incredibly fragile I have reserves for maybe a 5 - 7 day air war attrition battle i.e. 40 RAF fighters, 40 RAF Bombers, 0 USAAF Heaviies/Mediums or P38's in the pool.
 
If PZB wants to wrest back control he can do so all he needs to do is commit 300+ fighters he will take some lumps from the P38's and Forts but they are a wasting asset and my RAF mediums are scarily vulnerable
Andy

[traskott]

Oh, my, yeah.. Alexandria, SCOTLAND [:D][:D][:D].

Well, don't think what can PZB can do to your planes, think what can you do with your planes to the PZB planes..

[aprezto]

PzB is struggling with the deluge of allied ACs (as he sees it). Unfortunately for psyops there are knowledgeable commentators that are setting him straight, well kind of, our estimations have been that your reserves were able to keep attacks up for a month. 5-7 days... that is perilous (don't worry - not ACTUALLY divulging anything - purely from the hypothetical).
 
In the interests of game balance the low allied stockpiles may be beneficial, but it sure feels wrong. Although, I suppose you are trying a very big air campaign early in the war.

[Andy Mac]

True so far so good my carefull preservation of force has worked for me at some stage he has to realise he need sot attrit me when he does he will suffer but I will suffer more.
 
Reality is I only get 1 Hurricane a day and he can out produce that.
 
When I get my 2nd RAAF Spit Sqn up and running I will have slightly more staying power but for now I am running a huge bluff

[Andy Mac]

Oh I know John thinks I have lots more than I actually have.
 
De facto its very very vulnerable especially my RAF Bombers.
 
Getting the 6 Sqns that just arrived (USAAF) up and running will help as the USAAF Mediums are more replaceable.
 
De facto I can only afford to take losses in one theatre at a time.
 
I fought with the USAAF and RAAF pools (with only a couple of RAF Sqns) in Australia now its USAAF and RAF in India (with a couple of RAAF/RCAF and RNZAF Sqns to help)
 
But its seriously tight

[traskott]

Hummm...night bombing and puntual CAP looks like a good idea...

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

PZB selected a no withdrawal game [:D][:D][:D]

yeah, have figured that out later on too... [:)]

[Andy Mac]

I have plans developing

No withdrawals is not all good.

I just had to disband 2 Bdes manually as I dont have the replacements

Also 70th UK Div as everyone knows its basically a Div level assrt but its perm restricted.

So under house rules I cannot send it across a border as its restrictred
I cannot disband it so the devices are all stuck there.

I need those 72 x 25 pounders but cannot get access to them.

So no withdrawals is not all clover for the allies.....

[Andy Mac]

Having said that I think after the loss of the three BB's that I will be willing to make a play for Ramree Island maybe mask it as a move to develop lots of dot bases....

[Andy Mac]

Quiet one jap paratroopers capture a couple of bases on my LOC - ironically both garrisoned until I pulled the Bdes in them back to be disbanded !!!
 
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Oct 28, 42
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Night Air attack on Chittagong , at 55,41
 
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-21-IIa Sally x 17
 
 
Allied aircraft
      no flights
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
 
 
 
Runway hits 1
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      17 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 11000 feet *
               Airfield Attack:  2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
 
 
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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47
 
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
 
Allied aircraft
      Wellington Ic x 10
 
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Wellington Ic: 1 damaged
 
 
 
Runway hits 1
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       6 x Wellington Ic bombing from 10000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       4 x Wellington Ic bombing from 10000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes
 
 
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Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47
 
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
 
Allied aircraft
      Wellington Ic x 12
 
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Airbase supply hits 1
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      12 x Wellington Ic bombing from 10000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes
 
 
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Night Air attack on Dacca , at 56,38
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-21-IIa Sally x 20
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      19 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 10000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 46th Indian Brigade, at 60,44
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 16
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      16 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar sweeping at 15000 feet *
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      P-40K Warhawk x 21
 
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      21 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 22000 feet
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Hurricane IIa Trop x 12
 
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      12 x Hurricane IIa Trop sweeping at 22000 feet
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Hurricane IIa Trop x 12
 
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      12 x Hurricane IIa Trop sweeping at 22000 feet
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Hurricane IIc Trop x 12
 
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      12 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 22000 feet *
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      P-38F Lightning x 12
 
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      12 x P-38F Lightning sweeping at 29000 feet
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 52nd Chinese Corps, at 72,55 (Nanning)
 
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
 
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-49-IIa Helen x 12
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      20 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       9 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
       3 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
Also attacking 31st Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 35th Group Army ...
Also attacking 52nd Chinese Corps ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 52nd Chinese Corps, at 72,55 (Nanning)
 
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
 
Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 10
      Ki-49-IIa Helen x 6
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      30 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       6 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 31st Chinese Corps, at 72,55 (Nanning)
 
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
 
Raid spotted at 21 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-21-IIa Sally x 25
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      22 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      25 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 5000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
Also attacking 64th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 31st Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 64th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 31st Chinese Corps ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 46th Indian Brigade, at 60,44
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 6
      Ki-48-IIa Lily x 25
 
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      Ki-48-IIa Lily: 2 damaged
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      58 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      25 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 11000 feet *
               Ground Attack:  2 x 100 kg GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 9th Chinese Base Force, at 72,55 (Nanning)
 
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
 
Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-48-Ib Lily x 25
 
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      19 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      25 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 8000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
 
Also attacking 31st Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 9th Chinese Base Force ...
Also attacking 31st Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 9th Chinese Base Force ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 9th Chinese Base Force, at 72,55 (Nanning)
 
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
 
Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-48-IIa Lily x 12
 
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      Ki-48-IIa Lily: 2 damaged
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      12 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 4000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
 
Also attacking 52nd Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 9th Chinese Base Force ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      P-40K Warhawk x 4
 
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       4 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 29000 feet
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Hurricane IIa Trop x 2
      Hurricane IIb Trop x 2
      Hurricane IIc Trop x 2
      P-40K Warhawk x 3
 
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       2 x Hurricane IIa Trop sweeping at 22000 feet
       2 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 22000 feet *
       3 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 22000 feet
       2 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 22000 feet
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Blenheim IV x 30
      Hudson I x 27
 
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Hudson I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
      4 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
 
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 35
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      12 x Hudson I bombing from 10000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
      12 x Hudson I bombing from 10000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
       3 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
      15 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
       6 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
       3 x Hudson I bombing from 10000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
       3 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
       3 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Blenheim IV x 29
 
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 9
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       8 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
       9 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
      12 x Blenheim IV bombing from 10000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Hurricane IIa Trop x 2
      Hurricane IIb Trop x 12
 
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       2 x Hurricane IIa Trop sweeping at 22000 feet
      12 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 22000 feet
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      B-17E Fortress x 30
      P-38G Lightning x 4
 
 
No Allied losses
 
Japanese ground losses:
      6 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
 
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 13
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
      12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
       6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      P-38F Lightning x 2
 
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       2 x P-38F Lightning sweeping at 29000 feet
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Shwebo , at 59,45
 
Weather in hex: Light cloud
 
Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
 
 
Allied aircraft
      P-40K Warhawk x 11
 
 
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      11 x P-40K Warhawk sweeping at 29000 feet
 
 
 
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Ground combat at Rangpur (58,34)
 
Japanese Shock attack
 
Attacking force 53 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4
 
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0
 
Japanese adjusted assault: 5
 
Allied adjusted defense: 1
 
Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 3)
 
Japanese forces CAPTURE Rangpur !!!
 
Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)
 
 
 
Assaulting units:
    3rd Raiding Rgt /1
 
 
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Ground combat at Tezpur (60,36)
 
Japanese Shock attack
 
Attacking force 19 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3
 
Defending force 472 troops, 0 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 1
 
Japanese adjusted assault: 2
 
Allied adjusted defense: 5
 
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)
 
Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)
 
 
 
Assaulting units:
    Yokosuka 1st SNLF /1
 
Defending units:
    1st Bengal Construction Battalion
 
 

[Andy Mac]

PZB hit one of my AF's and suffered badly from Flak my policy of making the Central Burmese AF's untenable pays off he loses 14 Sallies to Flak about 16% loss rate on the one attack...

[Andy Mac]

11,000 feet for Sallies against 200+ AA Guns [:D][:D]
 
He should have used BB's to close it down - oh wait no [:D][:D]
 
10 c47's on the ground but I doubt he will come back

[Andy Mac]

if this is a serious offensive he will come back higher - if it was a flash in the pan or his losses were to high he will stop be interesting to see next steps

[Andy Mac]

My RAF Night Bombing Group gained another Sqn

I now have 4 Sqns of Wellingtons and 1 Sqn of RAF LIberators.

These are the only aircraft that will night bomb (RAF strategic bombers)

Keeping the force intact and preserving them has really worked out for me despite my anemic replacement rate

[traskott]

Some questions:

1) What AA units have you put there ?

2) What "my policy of making the Central Burmese AF's" means ?

3) Looks like you are suffering the "overdisbanding units" sickness...

[Andy Mac]

1) an RAF Group Base Force so it has an embedded Hvy and Light AA Regt
2) 3 x Indpt Hvy AA Regts
3) 1 x Indpt LAA Regt
4) 2 other Base forces each with a Battery of Hvy and Light AA

So 112 3.7" AA Guns and 96 x 40mm with several radar sets

Andy

[Andy Mac]

My policy of forcing him back to rangoon and Southern Burmese bases means he is operating at long range

[Andy Mac]

De facto Burma is the only theatere I can really hit back in for now.

I will make another attempt at palmyra at some stage and I will also probably hit NG at some stage.

Whether I go up through the solomons or not I am not sure of

[Andy Mac]

I want to start a staccato attack profile hit him all around and keep him fighting