ENLIST TODAY (Docup (A) vs Koniu (J) No Koniu
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RE: I'm Back
Thanks for the post Alfred. Believe it or not I have actually read that thread. I do have Engs present and they are building. Just hasn't reached fort 1 yet. Is their a way to calculate adjusted AV from unadjusted AV?
6th Oct
KB out of search range
MKB unknown
NCV unknown
Sian
Got plastered again. Runway still closed down and will prob remain closed.
Nanyang
Jap units marched into the base today. Our units will march out tomorrow before they attack.
Marshall Islands
BB TF heading east towards Wotje. All AC that can be moved has been. Base is locked down awaiting the BBs. subs have been repositioned.
6th Oct
KB out of search range
MKB unknown
NCV unknown
Sian
Got plastered again. Runway still closed down and will prob remain closed.
Nanyang
Jap units marched into the base today. Our units will march out tomorrow before they attack.
Marshall Islands
BB TF heading east towards Wotje. All AC that can be moved has been. Base is locked down awaiting the BBs. subs have been repositioned.
RE: I'm Back
I would be curious if anything besides supply and terrain effect AV with leaders being "dice modifiers". If that makes sense. I never got aircraft into Sian, the supply being somewhat mysterious to TWIT HQ in China. I did withdraw much of the Red Army through it to Chungking where I have been able to reconstitute them and 20th AG. I'd like to see your China situation with the hex ownership turned on. I'm struggling to find a plan maybe we could offer mutual support.
Sincerely,
CnC TWIT HQ
Zulu
Sincerely,
CnC TWIT HQ
Zulu
RE: I'm Back
ORIGINAL: DOCUP
Thanks for the post Alfred. Believe it or not I have actually read that thread. I do have Engs present and they are building. Just hasn't reached fort 1 yet. Is their a way to calculate adjusted AV from unadjusted AV?
Not sure I quite understand what you mean about calculating AV.
Have a look at post #677 in zuluhours AAR and see if that answers your question. If it doesn't could you explain exactly what it is you want to do.
Always remember that what is really important is firepower, not unadjusted AV, See my post in Canoerebel's AAR yesterday regarding this finesse.
Alfred
RE: I'm Back
ORIGINAL: zuluhour
I would be curious if anything besides supply and terrain effect AV with leaders being "dice modifiers". If that makes sense. I never got aircraft into Sian, the supply being somewhat mysterious to TWIT HQ in China. I did withdraw much of the Red Army through it to Chungking where I have been able to reconstitute them and 20th AG. I'd like to see your China situation with the hex ownership turned on. I'm struggling to find a plan maybe we could offer mutual support.
Sincerely,
CnC TWIT HQ
Zulu
Fortifications is also important (ah did I include that in post #677 of your AAR?). Of course number of disabled/ready devices (which includes infantry squads) is also, ahem, basic too. A disabled device gives no AV but does once it is ready.
Yes, leaders are, as you term them, "dice modifiers" which occurs behind the scenes as does the impact of firepower. Which is why players so easily forget that firepower is what is really important because they do not see the battle effect nor even know the algorithmns. Other "dice modifiers" are disruption, morale, fatigue, and the combat bonus contribution from HQs.
Alfred
RE: I'm Back
ORIGINAL: DOCUP
Screenie China Sian
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You might want to peek at the movement paths some of your LCUs show. Based on the screenshot, you have several units not moving in the most efficacious direction.
Alfred
RE: I'm Back
I have just reviewed that post in my AAR (recorded to sticky for future Alfred 101 adenda) and was shocked at what I found in China. What I had assumed was a strong defense in several areas is actually quite susceptible to a concentrated effort by the IJA. I am now considering a more defense in depth to allow time to respond with reserves. Alfred, I hope at some point you post the locations (all in one place [:'(]) of your 101 places. Joe, I am looking over your China theater.
RE: I'm Back
Alfred: I forgot the thank you for taking the time to post and answer my questions. I am always appreciative and delighted to see that you have stopped by. That goes for you Kurt and the others. Also I like when Alfred posts my hit count goes up.[:D] Sorry for not conveying my thoughts appropriatly Alfred. Ok so if firepower is the key. What is firepower in the game? With the unit movements most of those are moving only one hexs.
Kurt: I don't think I have done very well in China now. I got complacent. Now I am paying for it. Hopefully I will learn from it and can do better on my next game.
Kurt: I don't think I have done very well in China now. I got complacent. Now I am paying for it. Hopefully I will learn from it and can do better on my next game.
RE: I'm Back
OK checking China out closely, The most unfortunate situation to me is up north at Paulow. He looks to have something less than a division, judging by the shading but now has westward access to exploit. If he exploits north it could FUBAR air reinforcements which will become available to you up there. I'm not sure how it will effect them. I'd (I stress "I") would leave the force in place there to the west to threaten his supply line for awhile to see what he has in mind. As its a really long walk west from there you should have time to send a small army group (perhaps Mao's boys) and establish a river defense in the rough 100 miles to the east of Lanchow with an engineer unit. At Yenan why not try and force him to make an assault accross the Yellow river? The unit accross the Yellow River from Yenan could do another wait and see. If he tries to cross with all his units there (looks like a division) cut him off. If he tries to ford with less you may get some "holy" rolls when he shock attacks. Make sure you replace Corp COs with good ground skills behind the rivers. I did this early in China (fortunately as you know my PP situation) very cheaply. I also replaced the AG COs with the best I could find. They to are cheaply bought. Sian looks more difficult but you do have the Yangtze River and some nice rough to the south east. You have one of the few paved roads there, don't panic. I like rear guards in the rough, at least it will make him deploy if hes in "blitz" mode. I'm not sure you will be able to do this in your situation, but I was able to pull supply into Chungking and rebuild the 11th Army group (except two trapped divisions in Burma, which rebuilt very quickly in Dehli) and it became my fire brigade with 20th AG after the Kukong battles.
2 cent from HQ TWIT
2 cent from HQ TWIT
RE: I'm Back
New screenie kinda busy. Over 7k worth of AV in this area.


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RE: I'm Back
7th Oct
KB NW Roi Namur
MKB unknown
Nanyang
Jap capture it. Koniu was kinda mad after he sat thru the long attack replay to find out no troops were there. 4 ID's 3 Art units and 2 armys were present in the attack. The units that were crossing the river have stopped and are now moving in a different direction. This should give me some time to prepare my defenses.
Marshall Islands
Massive sweeps over Maloelap and Wotje.
KB NW Roi Namur
MKB unknown
Nanyang
Jap capture it. Koniu was kinda mad after he sat thru the long attack replay to find out no troops were there. 4 ID's 3 Art units and 2 armys were present in the attack. The units that were crossing the river have stopped and are now moving in a different direction. This should give me some time to prepare my defenses.
Marshall Islands
Massive sweeps over Maloelap and Wotje.
RE: I'm Back
Your in a good chess game now. I can't see the AV clearly (I'm color blind to fair extent) but I would make him stop and fight in the jungle rough NW of Nanyang. At least make him deploy and give you more time. I just noticed your supply situation does not look bad that will help. I think that 900AV (?) SE of Xian could take some wind out of his sails and maybe give him a damn good bloody nose. Have you reviewed your COs?
RE: I'm Back
Im going to fight in the wooded hexs south of Sian. Supply is ok. Almost 3k is out of position but I am moving them into the area. I hate giving up ground and bases for free. That is what put me into this position. CO's yes I have started to change some of them. Don't have many good ones. If he wants to reach Sian from the Nanyang or thru the woods ok so be it. I will make him pay for it.
RE: I'm Back
Two areas worry me. China is one the other is Marshall Islands.
Marshall Islands
I see that 2 ID's are heading towards Turk. No prepping intel yet. I would say they are going to go to the Marshalls. I am going to put some more mines at Wotje and more subs in the area. I can't get past his fighters or the KB. The only thing I can think of is to make some landing and force him to pull out some fighters.
I am prepping for PM, Milne Bay, Tagula Island, Koepang and others. I want to hit Milne and Tagula first then hit PM. I think this will catch his attention.
Marshall Islands
I see that 2 ID's are heading towards Turk. No prepping intel yet. I would say they are going to go to the Marshalls. I am going to put some more mines at Wotje and more subs in the area. I can't get past his fighters or the KB. The only thing I can think of is to make some landing and force him to pull out some fighters.
I am prepping for PM, Milne Bay, Tagula Island, Koepang and others. I want to hit Milne and Tagula first then hit PM. I think this will catch his attention.
Op Shoestring
Operation Shoestring
This is an amphib operation to Koepang and Roti. The objectives of this mission are to: 1. Start to take back parts of DEI. 2. Establish an AF within striking distance of several Jap bases. 3. Force the Japanesse to pull in fighters from other areas.
Koepang did have 3 Bde's guarding it. I will have to do some recon to see what he has at Koepang and at Roti. I believe this will draw Koniu's attention. 4E's will be able to strike several oil producing bases and 2 of his major AFs in the area. Location is also good because most of his fighters will be stationed around 10 or more hexs away. Those that he has. I have only seen 2 fighter squadrons recently.
Koniu is a smart man. He will probably know what the real Opearation Shoestring was. I am playing on that to see if he moves towards the Canal area.
This is an amphib operation to Koepang and Roti. The objectives of this mission are to: 1. Start to take back parts of DEI. 2. Establish an AF within striking distance of several Jap bases. 3. Force the Japanesse to pull in fighters from other areas.
Koepang did have 3 Bde's guarding it. I will have to do some recon to see what he has at Koepang and at Roti. I believe this will draw Koniu's attention. 4E's will be able to strike several oil producing bases and 2 of his major AFs in the area. Location is also good because most of his fighters will be stationed around 10 or more hexs away. Those that he has. I have only seen 2 fighter squadrons recently.
Koniu is a smart man. He will probably know what the real Opearation Shoestring was. I am playing on that to see if he moves towards the Canal area.
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RE: Op Shoestring
Ahhh. The soft underbelly of Japan. I like the deception, definately lose that with the AI. The DEI is a great place to threaten, as the Japanese player can't ignor the threat to his lifeblood.
RE: Op Shoestring
8th Oct
KB Marshall Islands
MKB unknown
Marshall islands
US sub duds on a CA.
Paoshan
We bomb a Jap IR.
Saumlaki
We bomb the AF at night for little damage. A bunch of ships are present. I will sweep with P38s and Wildcats and send in the bombers with escorts.
Norm you are right. I also think its kinda soft right now. Koniu will have to pull in alot of fighters to protect his interests in this area. I'm gathering up forces and seeing what all I will need to keep Koepang in my hands. More later on Op Shoestring.
KB Marshall Islands
MKB unknown
Marshall islands
US sub duds on a CA.
Paoshan
We bomb a Jap IR.
Saumlaki
We bomb the AF at night for little damage. A bunch of ships are present. I will sweep with P38s and Wildcats and send in the bombers with escorts.
Norm you are right. I also think its kinda soft right now. Koniu will have to pull in alot of fighters to protect his interests in this area. I'm gathering up forces and seeing what all I will need to keep Koepang in my hands. More later on Op Shoestring.
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RE: Op Shoestring
Good show.
In your deception department, have you used some of the west coast restricted units ? I've seen others like Canorebel set them to plan for different "false" objectives as part of their deception campaigns.
I notice that you have divided your subs into divisions do you do this by putting them into different hqs? Or do you just label them with the task force discriptor?
Keep up the good game!
In your deception department, have you used some of the west coast restricted units ? I've seen others like Canorebel set them to plan for different "false" objectives as part of their deception campaigns.
I notice that you have divided your subs into divisions do you do this by putting them into different hqs? Or do you just label them with the task force discriptor?
Keep up the good game!
RE: Op Shoestring
9th Oct
KB Moving towards Truk
MKB unknown
China
I bomb some he bombs some. He is still chaseing me up around Sian.
Saumlaki
Wildcats shot down 4 A6m3a's and lose only 2 of their own. No ships to bomb.
Got intel the 28th ID is prepping for Wotje. They are also heading to Truk. I am moving in more subs and placing more mines around Wotje. SBD's will be moved to Johnson Island to wait for the invasion. I have a SAG raiding off the coast of Japan, I am moving them south to see if I can hit one of the troop convoys.
I made a mistake and forgot to turn off upgrades to my CVs. I disbanded them to fix some sys damage, now they are upgradeing for 20 days.[:o] Great job.
Wotje has 2 forts with 125 AV. My only hope is to damage the troop convoys.
Norm, Thanks for following and posting. No false objectives on my part Koniu is using them. I wish I could say that I was doing something cool as putting subs in different Hq's and stuff. I just pick a sub and send it somewhere. If they go to one area I put them at one base so I do know the area they were patroling in.
KB Moving towards Truk
MKB unknown
China
I bomb some he bombs some. He is still chaseing me up around Sian.
Saumlaki
Wildcats shot down 4 A6m3a's and lose only 2 of their own. No ships to bomb.
Got intel the 28th ID is prepping for Wotje. They are also heading to Truk. I am moving in more subs and placing more mines around Wotje. SBD's will be moved to Johnson Island to wait for the invasion. I have a SAG raiding off the coast of Japan, I am moving them south to see if I can hit one of the troop convoys.
I made a mistake and forgot to turn off upgrades to my CVs. I disbanded them to fix some sys damage, now they are upgradeing for 20 days.[:o] Great job.
Wotje has 2 forts with 125 AV. My only hope is to damage the troop convoys.
Norm, Thanks for following and posting. No false objectives on my part Koniu is using them. I wish I could say that I was doing something cool as putting subs in different Hq's and stuff. I just pick a sub and send it somewhere. If they go to one area I put them at one base so I do know the area they were patroling in.
Questions for you guys.
I am going to fly in a US Army INF Bn from Wake. 40 AV plus the 125 thats already at Wotje. We have 2 forts with full supply. Alfred: the post in Zulus AAR about modifiers to unadjusted AV. I know you get 1 for full supply and 1.25x for fort lv 2. So do you add all that together ie; 125 plus supply modifier = 250 unadjusted AV? Then add the fort modifier onto that or what.
Also I have a few CD guns disabled at Wotje. Full supply with plenty of support, will changing my CO help repair them? If so what traits do I need to look for? Yes I am needy today.
I also changed the CO for my Inf Rgt to a better land skill. Really he was better in all skills. In a few days I will have over 100 mines in 5 different mine fields plus and ACM. I will also try and withdraw fragments out of Wotje's garrisons. Yes I know I can buy them back, but I think its easier to just rebuild and quicker. I might try to get a Raider Bn up here also.
Also I have a few CD guns disabled at Wotje. Full supply with plenty of support, will changing my CO help repair them? If so what traits do I need to look for? Yes I am needy today.
I also changed the CO for my Inf Rgt to a better land skill. Really he was better in all skills. In a few days I will have over 100 mines in 5 different mine fields plus and ACM. I will also try and withdraw fragments out of Wotje's garrisons. Yes I know I can buy them back, but I think its easier to just rebuild and quicker. I might try to get a Raider Bn up here also.


