Any pbem invasions of the US West Coast?

[TulliusDetritus]

Pauk & Nice Guy, yes, dates may be different. Hobsbawn considers the period 1780-1800 the "take-off" of this Revolution. As for the end: the 1840's => there is a Heavy Industry and railway in the UK.

P.S.:
I think we are quite off topic now, so apologies for all this spam [8D]

[wdolson]

ORIGINAL: niceguy2005
Historians debate quite often the start of the industrial revolution but almost everyone would agree it occured somewhere between 1760 and 1830, long before 1900.

The United States was not the first country to industrialize, but when it did, it became a dominant industrial power. The US was building the railroads and industrializing by the time of the Civil War. Part of the cultural split that led to the war was the north was industrializing quickly through the 1850s and the south remained rural and agriculturally based. The north made up for the labor shortage on farms during the war by building lots of steam powere tractors.

After the Civil War, industry in the US took off at a tremendous pace. The massive immigration to the US between 1880 and 1910 was driven by all the new factory jobs in the cities.

The reason the US was able to gear up for war in 1940 was that it had a tremendous heavy industry capacity already. This industry was focused on the civilian sector before the war in Europe broke out because the military was not buying. England and France had the same problem. Neither country paid much attention to the military through the 1930s. Late in the 1930s they began to realize that they might be at war with Germany and began to rearm, but it was too little too late. Germany was already ahead in the arms race. Germany was also ahead in modern arms doctrine, which was a deciding factor in the Battle of France.

I find this discussion interesting, though it is off topic. If there is a consensus to stop, we probably should.

Bill