DBB:C -Stacking to the limits / Cannonfodder (Japan) vs Mundy (Allies)

[KenchiSulla]

14th of May, 1942

The assault on Ranchi did not go as well as I wanted it to go but we still get decent odds. Would love to fly air support but the presence of a lot of FLAK would make it far to costly. We'll take our time. 4th Guards takes the brunt of the casualties and is put in reserve. The 7th Australian division is down to a reported 70 AV so she probably took most of the disablements. I'll rest a day or two and then go at it again...

Ground combat at Ranchi (52,32)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 65254 troops, 636 guns, 334 vehicles, Assault Value = 2032

Defending force 28814 troops, 523 guns, 409 vehicles, Assault Value = 618

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 1307

Allied adjusted defense: 689

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
5159 casualties reported
Squads: 20 destroyed, 278 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 44 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 33 disabled
Guns lost 44 (1 destroyed, 43 disabled)
Vehicles lost 23 (1 destroyed, 22 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
970 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 162 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Guns lost 76 (3 destroyed, 73 disabled)
Vehicles lost 28 (6 destroyed, 22 disabled)

Assaulting units:
4th Guards Division
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
6th Guards Division
5th/C Division
18th Division
55th Division
38th/B Division
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
48th Field AA Battalion
15th Army
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
7th Australian Division
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
84th Indian Brigade
70th British Division
26th Indian Division
85th British AT Gun Regiment
35th Light AA Regiment
23rd AA Bde
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
22nd Light AA Regiment

[KenchiSulla]

16th of May, 1942

Success at Ranchi! Fair amount of combat squads and guns destroyed. Two and 2/3 divisions and a tank brigade in pursuit, along with the artillery... Two guards divisions stand down and will rest for a bit...

Ground combat at Ranchi (52,32)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 51108 troops, 531 guns, 330 vehicles, Assault Value = 1731

Defending force 32108 troops, 608 guns, 452 vehicles, Assault Value = 608

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 2082

Allied adjusted defense: 655

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Ranchi !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1450 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 97 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 26 disabled
Guns lost 27 (1 destroyed, 26 disabled)
Units pursuing 3

Allied ground losses:
8030 casualties reported
Squads: 244 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 581 destroyed, 44 disabled
Engineers: 127 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 200 (173 destroyed, 27 disabled)
Vehicles lost 328 (316 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Units retreated 11

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
6th Guards Division
4th Guards/A Division
5th/C Division
55th Division
4th Guards/B Division
38th/B Division
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
18th Division
4th Guards/C Division
48th Field AA Battalion
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Army
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
7th Australian Division
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
22nd (East African) Brigade
70th British Division
84th Indian Brigade
26th Indian Division
35th Light AA Regiment
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
23rd AA Bde
85th British AT Gun Regiment
22nd Light AA Regiment

[Capt. Harlock]

16th of May, 1942

Success at Ranchi! Fair amount of combat squads and guns destroyed.

Congrats at keeping up the pace of the AAR. This is now probably the best two-sided reporting of the current games.

[KenchiSulla]

Thanks mr. Harlock.. Not to sure about the quality of my AAR though. Surely there are better reports out there

[KenchiSulla]

China

[uncivil_servant]

Really dumb question - But I don't see the draw of playing DBB as this game, and another game, makes it so easy for the IJ forces to conquer all of China and to actually invade India, at the same time the base game allows industrial specialization enabling them to churn out planes fast er than the Arsenal of Democracy did.

Serious question - I don't see the draw of the hyper unrealistic capabilities and apparent near impossible mountain to climb to take any of it back.

[JocMeister]

The China problem isn´t DBB specific. Its in all versions of the game.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: uncivil_servant

Really dumb question - But I don't see the draw of playing DBB as this game, and another game, makes it so easy for the IJ forces to conquer all of China and to actually invade India, at the same time the base game allows industrial specialization enabling them to churn out planes fast er than the Arsenal of Democracy did.

Serious question - I don't see the draw of the hyper unrealistic capabilities and apparent near impossible mountain to climb to take any of it back.

My answer to you copied from the other AAR where you asked this question:

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ORIGINAL: uncivil_servant

Really dumb question - But I don't see the draw of playing DBB as this game, and another game, makes it so easy for the IJ forces to conquer all of China and to actually invade India, at the same time the base game allows industrial specialization enabling them to churn out planes fast er than the Arsenal of Democracy did.

Serious question - I don't see the draw of the hyper unrealistic capabilities and apparent near impossible mountain to climb to take any of it back.

You're missing the critical point. DBB does not make it easier than stock for Japan to conquer China. It makes it more difficult. Various discussions have centered around whether it is yet difficult enough.

Nor does DBB make it easier to invade India. Nor does DBB allow for more IJ aircraft production.

[KenchiSulla]

Who said it is easy? To get to India you need Singapore.. To get to India early you need Singapore early... It is a matter of commitment of forces and sometimes a bit of luck...

[Sangeli]

Not to mention with a good defense of China taking it isn't so easy either. But if you have the bulk of Chinese forces committed to counteroffensives in Japanese controlled cities then you're undoubtedly opening yourself up to Japanese attacks elsewhere. This game is probably not a good example of how easy it is for Japan to take China because the Allies are really aiding Japan with a lot of these ahistoric decisions.

[KenchiSulla]

Yes Sangeli, you are right... Mundy is not helping his defense

[KenchiSulla]

We will play on but it is nice to see this screen for just this one time... It comes with a bit of music even!

[Lowpe]

[&o] Great job!

[KenchiSulla]

Points screen @ 1/1/1943

[GreyJoy]

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How could you grab so many points for allied LCU destroyed?!

Man, i'm envyous

[KenchiSulla]

To be honest, Mundy is helping me there.. He gave up on China and I managed to take Chungking (after a failed counterattack by Chinese respawning corps).. I did nail the fuel and supply sources of China early so that did not help him... The experience the IJA has gained in China is scary, with many divisions in the 80s and 90s and most of the others in the low to high 70s....

I've also destroyed a couple of Commonwealth formations in India (70th UK, a couple of Indian divisions and the Australian divisions 6/7).

Ship losses (a bit of fog of war but I think it is pretty accurate, especially the warship losses) attached in text file

[Sangeli]

ORIGINAL: Cannonfodder
To be honest, Mundy is helping me there.. He gave up on China and I managed to take Chungking (after a failed counterattack by Chinese respawning corps).. I did nail the fuel and supply sources of China early so that did not help him... The experience the IJA has gained in China is scary, with many divisions in the 80s and 90s and most of the others in the low to high 70s....

Now the question is what are you going to do with those units? So many possibilities at this point. Finish off India? Invade Australia? Take Pearl Harbor? I'm asking rhetorically of course because I read and comment in Mundy's AAR. But I feel safe in saying you should try something VERY ambitious at this point because why not? Likely you will never be in as strong of a position as Japan as you are right now.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

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How could you grab so many points for allied LCU destroyed?!

Man, i'm envyous

The ratio of LCU points is amazing!!! [X(]

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: Cannonfodder

To be honest, Mundy is helping me there.. He gave up on China and I managed to take Chungking (after a failed counterattack by Chinese respawning corps).. I did nail the fuel and supply sources of China early so that did not help him... The experience the IJA has gained in China is scary, with many divisions in the 80s and 90s and most of the others in the low to high 70s....

I've also destroyed a couple of Commonwealth formations in India (70th UK, a couple of Indian divisions and the Australian divisions 6/7).

Ship losses (a bit of fog of war but I think it is pretty accurate, especially the warship losses) attached in text file

a couple of commonwealth formations? man, you bagged the 2 most experienced and strong AUS divisions, the 70th UK which is a very good one and 2 indian IDs?!?! That's quite a british stalingrad

[MrBlizzard]

Yeah a result gained without strategic points by airbombing, just using mere force[8D]