AE PDF Manual Revision Part Two

[pavel01]

May I ask a question about the Manual ?

I very recently purchased War in the Pacific, Admiral's Edition taking advantage of the currently discounted price and went for the BOXED version which added some 20 dollars to the final price (about 15 for the Boxed version and about 5 or 6 for the Shipping).

Now, can I expect to receive the UPDATED Manual or will I receive a Manual that will not be much reliable in its content if at all ?

Because, the reason for me to spend the extra money was precisely to have a CURRENT, updated paper Manual with it.....

After reading this thread now I feel like I wasted that extra money in case the paper Manual which I will receive will be not current.

Can anyone please let me know if I wasted my money on an outdated paper manual and how I can get an UPDATED paper manual ?

Thanks !!

[chemkid]

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[pavel01]

Absolutely the Forum is a huge help in getting to learn the game, no doubt.

Yet, how do I find out "what" in the paper Manual which comes with the Boxed Version will still be current and what outdated ?

Do I need to check out all of the patches notes from when the Manual was printed ?

Or is there like a "summary" that already exists which tells "what" should not be relied upon from the paper Manual ?

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: pavel01

Absolutely the Forum is a huge help in getting to learn the game, no doubt.

Yet, how do I find out "what" in the paper Manual which comes with the Boxed Version will still be current and what outdated ?

Do I need to check out all of the patches notes from when the Manual was printed ?

Or is there like a "summary" that already exists which tells "what" should not be relied upon from the paper Manual ?

You do need to read all of the patch notes, especially the early, very large ones. Significant game mechanics were altered. The beta patch notes are a lot shorter, but some of those changes were pretty important too.

There's no summary. The patch notes are the summary.

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: pavel01

Absolutely the Forum is a huge help in getting to learn the game, no doubt.

Yet, how do I find out "what" in the paper Manual which comes with the Boxed Version will still be current and what outdated ?

Do I need to check out all of the patches notes from when the Manual was printed ?

Or is there like a "summary" that already exists which tells "what" should not be relied upon from the paper Manual ?

The new manual does not exist yet - it is still under development - last I heard. Part of the goal was to reformat the manual to make it easier to find things, but IME everyone has differing ideas about what is the best way to organize things so it may still be in discussion of details.

Also note that you have a PDF copy of the manual with the game install. You can access it by using the "Game Menu" that pops up from Autorun.exe (the shortcut the game puts on your desktop when you install it).

[pavel01]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: pavel01

Absolutely the Forum is a huge help in getting to learn the game, no doubt.

Yet, how do I find out "what" in the paper Manual which comes with the Boxed Version will still be current and what outdated ?

Do I need to check out all of the patches notes from when the Manual was printed ?

Or is there like a "summary" that already exists which tells "what" should not be relied upon from the paper Manual ?

The new manual does not exist yet - it is still under development - last I heard. Part of the goal was to reformat the manual to make it easier to find things, but IME everyone has differing ideas about what is the best way to organize things so it may still be in discussion of details.

Also note that you have a PDF copy of the manual with the game install. You can access it by using the "Game Menu" that pops up from Autorun.exe (the shortcut the game puts on your desktop when you install it).

That PDF copy of the Manual that comes with the game install, though, is like the paper Manual, right ? If so, it does not include all of the subsequent patches notes...

What patches "README" files should I look at in order to find out what has changed in the game's mechanics since the Manual was printed (or the PDF created....) ?

For a brand new player like me, War in the Pacific, Admiral's Edition is already an intimidating game because of its complexity.

Trying to get knowledged about its complex mechanics reading an outdated Manual does not help me much, it only adds to the confusion.....

Thanks !

[chemkid]

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[RogerJNeilson]

I am not sure this is the right game for you if you want to master it then play. I have been playing it since it was released, and previously played WITP (a simpler version). I have never read the manual, though I have at times searched for specific bits of information in it. I regularly read the forum.

I have now 7 years on this game and still learn new things every move I make. It is frankly part of the enjoyment of the game.

Either put it away or else just fire up a shorter scenario and start to play it, save it frequently and that way you can go back and see why something happened and how better to do it. If you hit a specific issue get on here and ask a specific question - we will be very helpful indeed - especially if you give plenty of information about the context and also a screenshot.

Roger

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson 3

I am not sure this is the right game for you if you want to master it then play. I have been playing it since it was released, and previously played WITP (a simpler version). I have never read the manual, though I have at times searched for specific bits of information in it. I regularly read the forum.

I have now 7 years on this game and still learn new things every move I make. It is frankly part of the enjoyment of the game.

Either put it away or else just fire up a shorter scenario and start to play it, save it frequently and that way you can go back and see why something happened and how better to do it. If you hit a specific issue get on here and ask a specific question - we will be very helpful indeed - especially if you give plenty of information about the context and also a screenshot.

Roger

I wouldn't recommend any new player not read the manual. It worked for you, but it won't for the vast majority. Despite its age, the manual is still over 90% relevant. It has screenshots that answer many of the common newbie questions if they would only look at them. And after the manual they should read the patch notes and then open the Manuals sub-folder and read the PDFs there, especially the Pilot Addendum.

Every time Matrix has a sale there is a new crop of newbies asking the same questions, most of which are answered in the manual. This forum is a rarity on the Internet these days, full of veterans who have a lot of patience and seemingly infinite knowledge. But there are limits. The forum is glad to answer a question or three. But coming in and saying "Somebody explain the production system to me" is just lazy. And rude in that it presumes on others' time. Especially rude is coming in with no fact base and laying about with the opinion sword on what "ought" to be done with this or that, or dumping on the design when one knows zero about the design. Those players usually last a few weeks and disappear, leaving their threads behind them.

It's a tough game to learn. It isn't modern in that the game itself doesn't contain the manual. But if they stick with it a newbie can know they can play the most complex consumer wargame ever designed.

But hey, newbies--do a little work, will ya?

[Journier]

would buy, asap. Any word on the Alfred Edition manual?

[BBfanboy]

No word. [:(]
I would buy too, even if it only came as a PDF version.

[Yaab]

PDF? No, Word!

[Yaab]

AE PDF Manual Revision Remembrance Day!

[tarkalak]

ORIGINAL: Yaab
PDF? No, Word!

Word? PDF?

Better just write it in LaTeX and distribute .tex files. [:D]

It would be great to have an updated manual.

[aleajactaest10044]

Curious on the status; is the project still in progress or retired? Thanks!

[rustysi]

There's been no word in so long I'd say retired.