BrianG V Sillyflower (open for discussion)

[BrianG]

way too ugly to take any pictures.

[BrianG]

final south

[BrianG]

final mountain positions.

Seems to me these mountain guys can live off the land. MP to supply are way over 200

[BrianG]

so he attacks with his mountain troops.

Jeez can they at least lose one artillery piece. Zero seems odd.

[BrianG]

I do not have picture but Silly flower flanks my Grovzy position.

Major problems as I have my two guard corps now trapped and now unable to seal pass to Baku.

Very bad.

After awhile opportunities open up.

Silly did no know that I had 2 36 mp tank corps in the pocket.

One goes left and this picture shows the other escape route.

While doin this I move the 1st guard army hq out of the pocket and move in another.

I also swing a very good general hq down to baku pass.

[BrianG]

Final positions. I break up one guard corps.

The other is stuck in rr mode as it opened the turn with zero MP's.(talk about mean and unfair)

The bottom part will be clear and the top will be mud.

He is was cut off here and I hope he somehow in mud does not break the pocket
(mud has not been a problem to the Germans when attacking so far in this war).

THESE pictures are up to date!

no give away info please

[BrianG]

This is a good view of starting positions.

This is Before action.

I must find way to cut rr line up here.

I have a few 50 mp tank corp with Konev and Zuchov as leaders in area.

Here I thought the retreat went the wrong way but this was the first of many attacks.

[BrianG]

Tank breakthrough.

Well this was easy!

[BrianG]

his rr runs down the West line to Krasnodor but then stops as the swamp just east of Krasnodor.

Here is choice 1 for a second tank exploit.
This would displace a few hq's and maybe mean his units cut further south thru 2 turns mud and then first all clear.

I could also move it's last spot just right and fully cut off the middle German units.

[BrianG]

choice 2.

I then do another attack which allows a different tank corp one more mp.

This would also reach the west rr line but realty the unit would be stretched.

[BrianG]

I decide on the south route.

I also resupply my other cut of units

I think he may be cut off now for 2 full turns.

This will become a death match.

I may have to throw all in to keep lines cut. cheap tanks corps with no attachment will be used liberally.

It will take him long time to get his most northern panzers (now west of Moscow holding a small pocket.) into this battle

[BrianG]

mountain final view.

His mountain troops are relentless and well slotted to over 200 mp supply lines.

I also attempt to get near Krasnodor and rr can be cut there as well.

[BrianG]

Final Rostov.

I bring tank shock army to attempt rr cut way west.

The middle stack survives a rout . Very close battle.

I may lose the tank corp which is now over the river.

Next turn is mud.

[BrianG]

Here I win a nice battle. One of my new INF corps are involved.

He has cut off 2 inf div and 3 brigades nearby

[BrianG]

Final MOSCOW.


You are now up to date.

Silly flower now has the file.

TURN 52 mark it as turning point!

[Michael T]

I commend your resolve sir.

[chaos45]

ya IDK if WITE has special supply for mountain units or not....I know some of the Board games ive played give the germans a special mountain Corps HQ that has special supply ability allowing operations deep in the mountains compared to normal corps/units.

[mktours]

ORIGINAL: BrianG



TURN 52 mark it as turning point!

I would disagree. I think you are likely to repeat the 1942 summer disaster of RED ARMY by commit big offense against a much stronger Germany, that is a wrong timing. You could open a Axis turn and check the reinforce schedule, in T51, they get huge reinforcement, 5 inf D, the powerful 24PzD, 2nd Hun ArmourD, if they are on the rail in T51, then they would be ready in the front for T54, 1942/06/25, then all your big offense troops in the south Rostov region could be in big danger.
That said, your counter attacks are very impressive, and they have the merits in themselves( seriously disrupted your opponent's plan), but you simply can't afford to be too optimistic at this moment. A weak Army attacking the stronger Army is against the principle of WAR and it is unlikely to end well.

[mktours]

ORIGINAL: BrianG

I decide on the south route.

I also resupply my other cut of units

I think he may be cut off now for 2 full turns.

This will become a death match.

I may have to throw all in to keep lines cut. cheap tanks corps with no attachment will be used liberally.

It will take him long time to get his most northern panzers (now west of Moscow holding a small pocket.) into this battle

I think your troops in this pic are in big danger, if the Axis knows the business, from T54( first clear turn) they could be cut off.

[BrianG]

I think your troops in this pic are in big danger, if the Axis knows the business, from T54( first clear turn) they could be cut off.

Danger lurks! The whole thing could collapse. I better not let him trap too many units here. He will bag plenty as is.

To be frank I am in a big mess!

My troops also have been performing horribly.

I have considered full withdraw but that would only open up his future attack on Baku area.

I will try and retreat east a few more better units, who are in the far west mess along the coast, to help plug the Baku gap.

His mountain troops are a pain. All nice and in supply. Just found out that mountain troops ae supplied at foot mp cost while in mountain.
Well isn't that special!