How the Axis could have won. Allied AAR RTW

[vonRocko]

Thanks for nice AAR Warspite. The game seems to be what I expected, and wanted.[;)]
 
 

[warspite1]

Thank-you. Although its on hold at the moment because I may have a fatal bug. I cannot move the Soviets into Eastern Poland and the program may not realise that Poland has surrendered? I have posted this in the main forum - let's hope its not a game breaker....

[warspite1]

Right, well clearly the Poles should have surrendered, but it didn't happen.

I've tried to start another game on the basis I can make the same decisions and just amend the posts accordingly where the outcome is different. However just doing the first turn was sufficiently different to ensure that its a whole different game.

That being the case I have to bring this to an end and start again. Great.....

[warspite1]

So I set out on another 1939 Storm Over Europe Campaign.

All Options, Preferences etc remain the same. As I want this to be a Newbie learning experience I will make the same decisions as previously (unless impossible due to changes in circumstance).

To speed things up I won't bother with the same level of screen shots and commentary - unless something is sufficiently different as to be worthy of comment.

[warspite1]

1st September 1939

Attack on Poland

8th September 1939

Poland
The outcome looks a little different in Poland (I'll come back to that)

United Kingdom
The British deploy the BEF

Soviet Union
The Soviets prepare to move into Eastern Poland

Poland
The Krakow Army is not destroyed this time.
I will move the units back as much as possible as per last time - but having a whole army in play makes that a tad difficult!

[operating]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Thank-you. Although its on hold at the moment because I may have a fatal bug. I cannot move the Soviets into Eastern Poland and the program may not realise that Poland has surrendered? I have posted this in the main forum - let's hope its not a game breaker....

By any chance would Poland be considered a neutral country at this point (on the diplomatic screen)? Perhaps it is a matter of DOW Poland...

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: operating

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Thank-you. Although its on hold at the moment because I may have a fatal bug. I cannot move the Soviets into Eastern Poland and the program may not realise that Poland has surrendered? I have posted this in the main forum - let's hope its not a game breaker....

By any chance would Poland be considered a neutral country at this point (on the diplomatic screen)? Perhaps it is a matter of DOW Poland...

warspite1

Neutral? Poland was effectively wiped from the map.

[warspite1]

15th September 1939

Despite the Germans seemingly getting a worse start than before, they have pretty much made up for it and more. Importantly the Warsaw Garrison unit is destroyed which could be a problem.

I saw a different message too (unless I missed it before). Preceding the message that Polish morale has plummeted, I got a message to say the Soviets had crossed the border. Maybe this is what caused the issue?

There was also a different message re operation Peking. I don't know what that means in practice - do the British get a DD?

[warspite1]

22nd September 1939

No change to British naval moves or spends of MPP from before.

[operating]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: operating

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Thank-you. Although its on hold at the moment because I may have a fatal bug. I cannot move the Soviets into Eastern Poland and the program may not realise that Poland has surrendered? I have posted this in the main forum - let's hope its not a game breaker....

By any chance would Poland be considered a neutral country at this point (on the diplomatic screen)? Perhaps it is a matter of DOW Poland...

warspite1


Neutral? Poland was effectively wiped from the map.

Let me ask this: Did you try to advance to the next turn with your corundum? Curious if the Soviets could move into Eastern Poland then (next turn) or not.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: operating

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: operating



By any chance would Poland be considered a neutral country at this point (on the diplomatic screen)? Perhaps it is a matter of DOW Poland...

warspite1


Neutral? Poland was effectively wiped from the map.

Let me ask this: Did you try to advance to the next turn with your corundum? Curious if the Soviets could move into Eastern Poland then (next turn) or not.

warspite1

Not the next turn no.

[warspite1]

3rd October 1939

The Poles have recovered a little and are roughly in line with where they were last time.

The decisions re the French Communists and Finland are as before.

[warspite1]

14th October 1939

United Kingdom
The MPP situation is different so I cannot buy the destroyer... I'll try and remember to do this next turn.

[warspite1]

5th November 1939

Right a load of new stuff. The Germans did not take Warsaw but I assume that morale went to nil as the Poles surrendered regardless. This meant a whole load of new messages came up as follows:

[warspite1]

5th November 1939

I also got this report

[warspite1]

I think the game is now sufficiently different to before that I now ignore the last couple of turns of the last game and just start from here.

The differences (at the same stage in the first iteration) are:

1. The British are a destroyer down
2. The Norwegians seem to be reacting badly to the 2nd Submarine Flotilla's presence
3. The British may have received less MPP (no other reason I could not buy the destroyer?).
4. The Poles have surrendered, the Soviets have taken Eastern Poland and Germany honours the Nazi-Soviet pact. This should have happened anyway.

[warspite1]

5th November 1939

United Kingdom
The 2nd Submarine Flotilla is moved away from the Norwegian coast.

United Kingdom/France
The 5 British/French ASW Flotillas patrol the convoy lanes

Soviet Union
The Soviet have occupied parts of Eastern Poland (this was done automatically - no input from me).

[Orm]

There was also a different message re operation Peking.

Polish destroyers trying to reach UK.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Orm

There was also a different message re operation Peking.

Polish destroyers trying to reach UK.

warspite1

Yeah I got all excited when I saw that - but I don't think it has any game play effect. I did a word search in the manual but saw nothing.

EDIT: I am of course talking cobblers. I have just noticed a weak (5-strength) DD in Scotland [8|] The Polish Navy are here [&o]

[warspite1]

27th November 1939

United Kingdom
Beware it is very easy to buy research or something for someone other than who you intend.

So with their backs to the wall, every DD, every aircraft, every bit of key research and diplomacy vital, I research amphibious warfare and advanced aircraft with the British (thinking I had clicked the US [8|])

France
The French build a Garrison and spend their remaining MPP on trying to bring units up to strength. They also move their units up to the border.

United States
The Americans research Command and Control and Infantry Warfare

Soviet Union
The Soviets have insufficient MPP to do anything meaningful this turn.