How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:55 pm

30th December 1939

Again, because of Fog of War there is little to see this turn. Here is the high level summary.

The U-Boats are out in the North Atlantic at last....

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:00 pm

30th December 1939

United Kingdom

The IRA decide to attack the British. Not sure what effect that has (if any) in game terms??

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:00 pm

30th December 1939

United Kingdom and France

The German 7th Flieger Division is spotted deploying in Hamburg. Why? Norway? The Low Countries? I am sure time will tell - not too much time either.

France

Although not much movement in evidence, there was definitely something happening on the Franco-Italian border. An imminent Italian attack perhaps?

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:02 pm

20th January 1940

Reinforcements

United Kingdom
Two Destroyer Flotillas arrive in Scotland.

France
The Spanish engineers arrive. I need to set about using these guys asap.

MPP Expenditure

UK - The UK build a corps and spend the remaining points on the BEF.
France - Spend a huge 30 MPP to get the engineers to Northern France - ouch! The remaining points are spent on the build up, which includes units in the south for the first time.
USA - Nothing as they hold on for the 200 MPP needed for Infantry Weapons
USSR - The Soviets are not exactly spoilt for choice as to what to spend their 28 MPP on.... precisely nothing

loki100 · Post by **loki100** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:14 pm

given your impressive (imho) handling of Poland presume you may well have disrupted the axis timetable in the west. Noticed the AI tends to invade early in 1940 so hopefully you have bought yourself more time?

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:18 pm

ORIGINAL: loki100

given your impressive (imho) handling of Poland presume you may well have disrupted the axis timetable in the west. Noticed the AI tends to invade early in 1940 so hopefully you have bought yourself more time?

warspite1

Let's hope [:)] It would be nice to get some of these guys dug in properly.

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:20 pm

20th January 1940

France

More decisions. The first one concerns the Poles and the setting up of a Polish Corps. This is confirmed. There is a cost of 50 MPP but this is spread over two turns and its all about boots on the ground!

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 2:22 pm

20th January 1940

France and the United Kingdom

I have said yes to this mission but, on reflection, am not sure it was the right thing to do. Too late its done now, but I wonder if these MPP could have been better spent.....

Hartmann · Post by **Hartmann** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:04 pm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

20th January 1940

France and the United Kingdom

I have said yes to this mission but, on reflection, am not sure it was the right thing to do. Too late its done now, but I wonder if these MPP could have been better spent.....

No, it's a good decision. Maybe too good at the moment, actually. In all my five games as UK/US it prevented Finland from entering the Axis alliance. It seems that the German AI is not aware that they need Finland to have a pro-Axis leaning.

Orm · Post by **Orm** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:13 pm

Essentially the Poles take a bit less of Poland

Que? [&:]

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:15 pm

ORIGINAL: Orm

Essentially the Poles take a bit less of Poland
Que? [&:]

warspite1

Thank-you sir - amendment made. I was just checking if anyone was awake....

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:17 pm

ORIGINAL: Hartmann

ORIGINAL: warspite1

20th January 1940

France and the United Kingdom

I have said yes to this mission but, on reflection, am not sure it was the right thing to do. Too late its done now, but I wonder if these MPP could have been better spent.....

No, it's a good decision. Maybe too good at the moment, actually. In all my five games as UK/US it prevented Finland from entering the Axis alliance. It seems that the German AI is not aware that they need Finland to have a pro-Axis leaning.

warspite1

But not in my last game.... let's hope they stay the hell out this time [:)]

Orm · Post by **Orm** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:18 pm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

20th January 1940

France and the United Kingdom

I have said yes to this mission but, on reflection, am not sure it was the right thing to do. Too late its done now, but I wonder if these MPP could have been better spent.....

I am still confused by this option. Apparently the Allies can teleport their troops so why doesn't they use the teleport function all the time. [&:] [;)]

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:30 pm

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

20th January 1940

France and the United Kingdom

I have said yes to this mission but, on reflection, am not sure it was the right thing to do. Too late its done now, but I wonder if these MPP could have been better spent.....

I am still confused by this option. Apparently the Allies can teleport their troops so why doesn't they use the teleport function all the time. [&:] [;)]

warspite1

Because they only have one Tardis Duh? [&:]

[:D]

terje439 · Post by **terje439** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:32 pm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

The German 7th Flieger Division is spotted deploying in Hamburg. Why? Norway? The Low Countries? I am sure time will tell - not too much time either.

That one always deploys to Hamburg. The Germans gets two paratrooper units at the same time (if they delay Student untill he is full strength), but the 7th is always deployed in Hamburg.

terje439 · Post by **terje439** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:33 pm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Because they only have one Tardis Duh? [&:]

[:D]

But that would not matter as the Tardi moves in TIME and space, so it could go back and forth and bring all troops to where they are needed at the same instance [;)]

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 4:00 pm

20th January 1940

United Kingdom and France

The Royal Canadian Navy finds the German U-Boat wolf pack but the latter is able to evade its pursuers.

I am hoping the German Navy may seek to do something about the 2nd Submarine Flotilla. To that end I am preparing to send the Home Fleet to sea.

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 4:07 pm

5th February 1940

Quiet once again on the Western Front and in the Atlantic. Once more there are AI manoeuvrings in northern Italy though.

The Royal Navy bring some cheer to the home front; the subs successfully attack the Iron Ore convoys and the supply ship Altmark is boarded and British sailors aboard are freed.

"Hey Fritz, if you can't afjord the losses, don't enter them...." Haahahahahahaha....

warspite1 · Post by **warspite1** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 4:07 pm

2nd March 1940

Reinforcement

United Kingdom
33rd Engineers and Wavell H.Q arrive in England.

MPP Expenditure

UK - The British build up their Polish destroyer, the BEF and the tactical bombers.
French - The French continue to spend their points on building up the army. The work is just so slow.... The Engineer unit sets about work on fortification southeast of Verdun - but it is going to be touch and go as it will take two months!
USA - Infantry Weapons are up next for the US.
USSR - The USSR save their whopping 40 MPP for a rainy day... or something they can actually spend their point on.

loki100 · Post by **loki100** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 4:35 pm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

20th January 1940

France and the United Kingdom

I have said yes to this mission but, on reflection, am not sure it was the right thing to do. Too late its done now, but I wonder if these MPP could have been better spent.....

I think this one at the moment is too over-powered. There is no real cost to the Allies, the Soviets will still end up fighting the axis and vs the AI it seems to remove Finland from the war. I'd agree with Hartmann's comment as to its effectiveness. Might be more balanced in PBEM as I presume a German player could exploit it - for example holding off on invading the USSR to go either for the Med or the UK?

Ok 100MP is a short term cost but by this stage with France its not worth doing much other than use their MPP for reinforcements etc?

edit - like your strategy of using the subs as a partial bait to draw out the German fleet

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