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I've gotten across the river down south near Odessa and I'm beginning to fight for a
bigger footprint for the breakthrough I've made. The Odessa defenders have build a
fortress of themselves and it's going to take a while to breakthrough all that stuff
and capture the city. That's their supply point so if I can get that the rest of
them will be easier. Eventually. I've got to make a note to myself to rail some
extra arty down here to get the bombardment going when the siege starts.

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The Hungarians are through with their adventures in the mountains so now I need to
decide where to employ them next. I'm thinking I'll try to see if I can't force a
river crossing with them and then drive them further south and play it by ear. I
like the idea of flowing into a power vacuum, the voids that appear from time to
time, not that I can actually see them standing in the front lines for any lenthy
period of time. Their proficiency is so low that they can't really protect
themselves adequately and I need to keep them together for mutual support.

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And now here's another thing I'm having to deal with. Hexes that don't have ANY
supply in them. I'll have to monitor thsse units in this area and rotate them in
and out of a supply source just to keep them running. Either that or back the
units into a hex that does have some supply.

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I dropped a paratrooper unit near a bridge in the bottleneck to cut the supply ot all
the Soviet units west of there. I'm hoping that will accellerate the take down of all
the Soviet units that are still defending. Progress is being made and I hope to get
things moving faster here.



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I dropped a paratrooper unit near a bridge in the bottleneck to cut the supply ot all
the Soviet units west of there. I'm hoping that will accellerate the take down of all
the Soviet units that are still defending. Progress is being made and I hope to get
things moving faster here.
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Here's what Pskov looks like now. I've finally captured the city and with it the
rails and roads that pass through there. I'm planning on running a rail through
there so I needed the city. The rail will probably split at Pskov with one going
north and one going east. I need to look up where the RR engrs are right now.

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I found the northern rail repair group out in the middle of nowhere too far from the
front lines to be useful. They aren't repairing the rail fast enough to keep up
with the front lines.

Also, I've got two possible routes to repair the 'A' route or the 'B' route and I'm
leaning on the A route because I'd like to get some supply to the people that are
going to be near Leningrad so that means a rail line going north from Pskov and I'd
like to keep the advance going to that's a line going east from Pskov and I feel
like I need both of them equally so I'm going to split up the group when they get to
Pskov and keep going.

This scenario is really frustrating in the lack of supply department.

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I found the southern RR repair group also out in the middle of nowhere headed for
Kiev. They aren't very close but I'm optimistic that they can do it. It's just
happening too slowly.

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Here's the middle group. It's even further away from the front lines than the other
two groups. I would hate to have to gather all the RR engrs in one spot but this looks
like it might need the 'muclear option' to get it moving. There's been no protress
from the group in a couple of turns now.

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Here's the T10 front lines before I have moved anybody.

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This is the northern RR repair group's location leadig from Riga to where it is now
and this is yet another turn in which no progress was made repairing the rail. It's
been about 6 consequtive turns now in which no rail has been repaired and I have no
idea why. If I knew what the problem was I could maybe fix it.

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Here's the middle RR repair group and I took a picture before I moved anybody just to
prove that sometimes it works and in this case I have two freshly repaired RR hexes.
It's almost up to Minsk already which means it's horribly behind schedule.

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ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

Here's the middle RR repair group and I took a picture before I moved anybody just to
prove that sometimes it works and in this case I have two freshly repaired RR hexes.
It's almost up to Minsk already which means it's horribly behind schedule.

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1 repaired, the second was captured intact.
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Pskov, Riga, Kiev, Minsk and Smolensk are supply depots so when you capture them you get local supply up into the high twenties. The trick is getting to them before everyone grinds to a halt for lack of fuel. I'm on turn 20 and captured Smolensk turn 18, just in time. A turn later and I probably would no longer have had the weight to do it, lots of red and orange health units.

But as with your game the railheads are way behind. They can do nothing for several turns then advance 4 hexes in one go. I've concentrated my RR engineers into 3 groups, north to Leningrad, centre to Kiev, south past Odessa and on to Rostov. This seems to be more effective but they will still be miles behind the front line come winter.
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Sorry I meant 4 groups, one group also doing the Minsk/Smolensk/Moscow line that parallels the paved highway.
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ORIGINAL: DanNeely
ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson
Here's the middle RR repair group and I took a picture before I moved anybody just to
prove that sometimes it works and in this case I have two freshly repaired RR hexes.
It's almost up to Minsk already which means it's horribly behind schedule.
1 repaired, the second was captured intact.
You see, this is the reason I don't win at these games anymore, I don't notice the
details. I completely missed that little factoid. Thanks for the good catch.
ORIGINAL: 700851McCall
Pskov, Riga, Kiev, Minsk and Smolensk are supply depots so when you capture them you
get local supply up into the high twenties. The trick is getting to them before
everyone grinds to a halt for lack of fuel. I'm on turn 20 and captured Smolensk
turn 18, just in time. A turn later and I probably would no longer have had the weight
to do it, lots of red and orange health units.

But as with your game the railheads are way behind. They can do nothing for several
turns then advance 4 hexes in one go. I've concentrated my RR engineers into 3 groups,
north to Leningrad, centre to Kiev, south past Odessa and on to Rostov. This seems to
be more effective but they will still be miles behind the front line come winter.
Hey there Kr McCall dude, you are the bearer of good news indeed. I didn't know what
you said and so it's a revelation to me. I could use a little supply right now. So
I've got an incentive to capture them now. Thanks for the heads up. I'll see what
I can do.
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Here's the front lines in the north right now. I'm in the closing phase of the mop
up operations going on. When the operations are concluded the troops will move
into the bottleneck and push east. Supply is very low so all this will have to happen
in slow motion.


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Here's what's going on in the Pskov area right now. I'm being swamped by Soviet units.
They are coming out of the woodwork and my boys are having to defend from more than one
direction and I'm forced to stand the engineers nearby on the front lines. I hate to do
that because the engineers have better things to do and I hate to lose good engineers.

My AS level is 56 while the Soviet AS barely registers so I'm wondering if I should maybe
put some of the fighter-bombers on CS missions. Like the Me-110's for instance. I've
been depending on their AS ability to escort some of my longer range strikes but I can
knock that off long enough to do CS's for a while.

I tried some tank plinking with the Stuka's on Soviet tank units and came away slightly
discouraged because I ended up loosing more planes than he lost in tanks. So that didn't
work. I've flown most of the Ju-87's up toward Leningrad so as to be able to gang up on
the Soviet BB's when they are within range. Which will be very shortly now, since the
peninsula has been cleared out west of the bottleneck.

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I moved a lot of the fighter bombers to CS missions instead of AS and now about 1/4
of the force is on AS and of the rest half are on CS and half are on INT. Everybody
is green and ready to go so that probably means I haven't been driving them hard
enough. When they start having a lot of yellow ones at the beginning of the turn
then I know I'm getting some service from them.
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Here's just some of the losses so far. Remarkably light I should think.

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