What happens to future air groups if you never put a their aircraft types into production? Let's say you build KI-44 's instead of KI-43's what happens to all of those air groups that were supposed to have KI-43s???
Mogami
Thanks, but this didn't answer my question, what happens to newly arriving airgroups if you don't build their type of aircraft. If I decide to build Ki-44's instead of Ki-43's, ok the ki-27 air groups would be able to upgrade, but what about newly arriving airgroups ones that have not been formed yet? Will future arriving air groups equip with the new producted aircraft or will they still be waiting for Ki-43s? I am concerned there maybe a issue if you change aircraft production to something non-historical due to the fixed aircraft paths.
If you disband the ki-27's would they be allowed to reform with a new aircraft type??
What happens to future air groups if you never put a their aircraft types into production? Let's say you build KI-44 's instead of KI-43's what happens to all of those air groups that were supposed to have KI-43s???
Mogami
Thanks, but this didn't answer my question, what happens to newly arriving airgroups if you don't build their type of aircraft. If I decide to build Ki-44's instead of Ki-43's, ok the ki-27 air groups would be able to upgrade, but what about newly arriving airgroups ones that have not been formed yet? Will future arriving air groups equip with the new producted aircraft or will they still be waiting for Ki-43s? I am concerned there maybe a issue if you change aircraft production to something non-historical due to the fixed aircraft paths.
If you disband the ki-27's would they be allowed to reform with a new aircraft type??
If I get your question right, the answer is the air group will simply sit 1 turn away forever until you have something available for them to fly that is part of their upgrade path. This is not always a bad thing ... as it keeps pilots from being assigned to useless units that you didn't want anyways. I believe it will look backwards 1 type and forwards 2 types for locating aircraft. if you have none of all 4, the group doesn't form. (don't quote me on this, as to actually cause this, we are talking about multiple years of game play).
Current air stats
A2A 45-36
DOG 268-0
AA 6-38
Ops 8-52
Total 327-126
Sortie 4885-27,934
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/17/41
TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Rabaul, 61,88
Coastal Guns at Rabaul, 61,88, firing at TF 20
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TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Rabaul, 61,88
Coastal Guns at Rabaul, 61,88, firing at TF 20
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Sub attack at 45,56
Japanese Ships
AK Yamaura Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
Allied Ships
SS S-3
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TF 147 troops unloading over beach at Menado, 39,67 I'm going to try to disrupt this with a TF of Allied surface ships.
Coastal Guns at Menado, 39,67, firing at TF 147
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TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Rabaul, 61,88
Coastal Guns at Rabaul, 61,88, firing at TF 20
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TF 147 troops unloading over beach at Menado, 39,67
Coastal Guns at Menado, 39,67, firing at TF 147
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ASW attack at 45,47
Japanese Ships
MSW Choun Maru #7
Allied Ships
SS Skipjack
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Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 21
Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 10
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 6 destroyed, 3 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 16000 feet
10 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 16000 feet
Air attack on Kuantan , at 24,47
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 16
Ki-48 Lily x 58
Ki-46-II Dinah x 3
Ki-15 Babs x 8
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 2 damaged
Allied ground losses:
Men lost 25
Guns lost 2
Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 9000 feet
11 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 19000 feet
18 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 19000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 9000 feet
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 9000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 19000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 19000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 9000 feet
Air attack on TF at 22,48
Allied aircraft
Vildebeest IV x 2
Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest IV: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
AK Sasako Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air attack on TF at 23,51
Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 4
Buffalo I x 21
Vildebeest IV x 17
Blenheim I x 8
Blenheim IV x 7
Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest IV: 2 damaged
Japanese Ships
PG Myoken Maru, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
PG Kiso Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Azumasan Maru
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
4 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
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Air attack on 2nd ISF Base Force, at 24,44
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
G3M Nell x 19
G4M1 Betty x 11
no losses
Allied ground losses:
Men lost 76
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
8 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 16000 feet
13 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
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Air attack on 15th Indian Brigade, at 24,44
Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 13
G4M1 Betty x 3
no losses
Allied ground losses:
Men lost 60
Guns lost 2
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x G3M Nell bombing at 12000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
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Air attack on 71st PA Division, at 43,51
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21
G4M1 Betty x 21
Allied aircraft
P-26A x 3
P-36A Mohawk x 3
P-40B Tomahawk x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 8
Aircraft Attacking:
14 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 18000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 29,34
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 7
Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 10
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Allied Ships
AK Empire Defiance
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 16000 feet
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Ground combat at Vigan
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 37941 troops, 456 guns, 20 vehicles
Defending force 338 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 545 to 1
Allied ground losses:
Men lost 90
Guns lost 2
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Ground combat at Rabaul
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 7804 troops, 85 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 1863 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 3)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2
Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 170
Guns lost 6
Allied ground losses:
Men lost 118
Guns lost 2
Ground combat at Alor Star
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 19860 troops, 238 guns, 107 vehicles
Defending force 7134 troops, 36 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)
Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 303
Guns lost 9
Vehicles lost 1
Allied ground losses:
Men lost 130
Guns lost 3
Ground combat at Kuantan
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 18721 troops, 225 guns, 15 vehicles
Defending force 8650 troops, 72 guns, 2 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 27 to 1 (fort level 4)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Kuantan base !!!
Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 216
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1
Allied ground losses:
Men lost 95
Guns lost 5
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Menado
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 1290 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 1406 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 17
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Ground combat at Rabaul
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 726 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 7608 troops, 79 guns, 0 vehicles
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I'm not retreating, I'm attacking in a different direction!
Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 14000 feet
12 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 14000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 11000 feet
Air attack on TF at 22,50
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 6
no losses
Japanese Ships
AK Sasako Maru, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 22,50
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 21
Vildebeest IV x 20
Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest IV: 2 damaged
Japanese Ships
PG Kiso Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Azumasan Maru, Torpedo hits 1
Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 32
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 9000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 9000 feet
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Air attack on Rabaul , at 61,88
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
G4M1 Betty x 44
no losses
Allied ground losses:
Men lost 68
Guns lost 1
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 14000 feet
20 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 14000 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 14000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on 21st PA Division, at 43,51
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 15
Allied aircraft
P-26A x 3
P-36A Mohawk x 5
P-40B Tomahawk x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 9 damaged
Allied ground losses:
Men lost 66
Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Menado at 39,67
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 3
no losses
Japanese Ships
AP Ayaha Maru
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Hudson I bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 29,34
Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 9
A6M2 Zero x 18
Ki-27 Nate x 23
Ki-21 Sally x 6
Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 12000 feet
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Air attack on Georgetown , at 23,44
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 25
Ki-48 Lily x 56
Ki-46-II Dinah x 4
Ki-15 Babs x 7
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 18000 feet
15 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
8 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 18000 feet
4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 18000 feet
4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 18000 feet
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Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 30
Ki-30 Ann x 30
Ki-21 Sally x 16
Ki-48 Lily x 6
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Ki-36 Ida x 2
Allied aircraft
P-26A x 3
P-36A Mohawk x 6
P-40B Tomahawk x 6
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
30 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
16 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 23,51
Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 4
Buffalo I x 2
Vildebeest IV x 2
Blenheim I x 11
no losses
Japanese Ships
AK Yagi Maru
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Blenheim I bombing at 6000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Kuantan at 24,47
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 19
Vildebeest IV x 11
Blenheim IV x 6
no losses
Japanese Ships
TK Kaijo Maru #2
AK Hikosan Maru
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Vildebeest IV bombing at 5000 feet
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Air attack on Changsha , at 47,36
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 19
Ki-51 Sonia x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Air attack on Wuchow , at 42,39
Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 9
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 5
Ki-51 Sonia x 21
no losses
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 3
Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 7000 feet
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Air attack on TF at 22,48
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 17
Blenheim IV x 6
no losses
Japanese Ships
AK Azumasan Maru
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
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Ground combat at Menado
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 1310 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 1983 troops, 13 guns, 4 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Menado base !!!
Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 68
Guns lost 3
Allied ground losses:
Men lost 3564
Guns lost 13
Vehicles lost 1
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Ground combat at Alor Star
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 19500 troops, 221 guns, 106 vehicles
Defending force 9324 troops, 50 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 256
Guns lost 9
Allied ground losses:
Men lost 134
Guns lost 5
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Ground combat at 23,47
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 18520 troops, 215 guns, 15 vehicles
Defending force 6281 troops, 55 guns, 1 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 104
Guns lost 4
Allied ground losses:
Men lost 142
Guns lost 4
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Jolo
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 2292 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 841 troops, 6 guns, 1 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Jolo base !!!
Allied ground losses:
Men lost 986
Guns lost 2
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I'm not retreating, I'm attacking in a different direction!
Hi Mogami
With all the action going on in this game is there an enhancement to the combat
action to allow for pausing and replaying or continuing the action to allow for studying
the theater of operation?
The essence of military genius is to bring under
consideration all of the tendencies of the mind
and soul in combination towards the business of
war..... Karl von Clausewitz
Looks interesting. Seems like they did some nice enhancements to the game. The Combat Reports include a lot more info than UV as well, in good ways (particularly as I've read that in PBEM the combat report is 'real' while the replay may not be).
I find myself encouraged that Mogami is averaging approximately 30 minute turns. I realize that for us humans (I'm convinced Mog is Vulcan) it will take longer to process a turn, but at least this gives me hope that I will be able to play at least one turn a night...
The first turn takes the longest, depending on the amount of detail you want to sink in changing squadron's options, rebasing ships, and getting things moving the way you want them. From then whether you run single or multiday turns you'll only have real long turns when you're planning something major that takes time. For the most part once turn 1 is gone all your little plans and actions seem to spread out. TFs arrive at different times, land units take time to move depending on the terrain so you're not fighting all across the map on any given turn and not every squadron you have to go check and change it's options. Good use of the combat report and operations report should help you from having to check every base every turn.
I've found that I hit lulls in the action, where I only have to give orders in 3 or 4 areas as in the other area nothing is going on but waiting on TFs to arrive. So after playing a few times to get use to the scope and how to play, plan on the first turn taking several hrs 1 night or spead out over several days, but once you get into the flow you can get 2 to 3 turns in the same amount time depending on what's going on. At least from my experience playing the allies that is true. The Japanese have more to do early on.
