Canuck's Revenge - ADavidB vs PzB (Wobbly's game continued)
Moderators: wdolson, Don Bowen, mogami
Delhi falls
But then, I wasn't planning on making any sort of "stand" at Delhi - all of my troops there were the collected remnants of other failed defenses. I got out what I wanted to get out, got the road to Rawapindi cleared and bought time. In the meanwhile, PzB hasn't started to move on Malir yet, so I get to enjoy more time to build everything. And the fly boys in Malir aren't doing too badly for themselves:
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8
Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 9
F4F-4 Wildcat x 17
Swordfish x 20
Wirraway x 8
Kittyhawk I x 9
Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 2 destroyed
Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 15
The fly boys at Karachi were grounded because of rain, but that's okay - a bit of rest will do all of them good.
In the meanwhile, PzB's own "tobi bozu" ("fly boys" in Japanese) did get into the air and continue to do to Java what my flyers are doing to Bombay and Ahmadabad:
Day Air attack on Tjilitjap , at 19,62
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
A6M3 Zero x 26
G4M1 Betty x 73
Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 10
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 5 destroyed, 50 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 2 destroyed
Allied Ships
DD Van Galen, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Admiral Wood, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Barnett, Bomb hits 1, on fire
Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 3
as well as this:
Day Air attack on Tjilitjap , at 19,62
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 40
Ki-21 Sally x 64
Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed, 13 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 13 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied Ships
AK San Bernadino, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Mormacstar, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP American Legion, Bomb hits 1
AK Adelong, Bomb hits 1
Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1
In contrast, my very tired pilots on Java couldn't get through the CAP and flak and scored no hits on the nearby Japanese TFs. I've actually pulled my longer-range bombers back from Java in order to rest them - there is no point trying to fly bombers with morale in the "teens".
Everything else is going as planned.
Dave Baranyi
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8
Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 9
F4F-4 Wildcat x 17
Swordfish x 20
Wirraway x 8
Kittyhawk I x 9
Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 2 destroyed
Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 15
The fly boys at Karachi were grounded because of rain, but that's okay - a bit of rest will do all of them good.
In the meanwhile, PzB's own "tobi bozu" ("fly boys" in Japanese) did get into the air and continue to do to Java what my flyers are doing to Bombay and Ahmadabad:
Day Air attack on Tjilitjap , at 19,62
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
A6M3 Zero x 26
G4M1 Betty x 73
Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 10
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 5 destroyed, 50 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 2 destroyed
Allied Ships
DD Van Galen, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Admiral Wood, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Barnett, Bomb hits 1, on fire
Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 3
as well as this:
Day Air attack on Tjilitjap , at 19,62
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 40
Ki-21 Sally x 64
Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed, 13 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 13 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied Ships
AK San Bernadino, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Mormacstar, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP American Legion, Bomb hits 1
AK Adelong, Bomb hits 1
Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1
In contrast, my very tired pilots on Java couldn't get through the CAP and flak and scored no hits on the nearby Japanese TFs. I've actually pulled my longer-range bombers back from Java in order to rest them - there is no point trying to fly bombers with morale in the "teens".
Everything else is going as planned.
Dave Baranyi
More Death from the Skies
As the old saying goes, "Practice Makes Perfect", and my flyboys in Karachi are getting lots of opportunities to "perfect" their skills. Look at what happened on July 27th:
Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12
Wellington III x 39
Hudson I x 9
B-24D Liberator x 32
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed, 5 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 3 destroyed
Wellington III: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Nikki Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tatsutake Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Nichiryo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
744 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 62
Port hits 2
On the other hand, PzB got tired of my nuisance flights coming out of Colombo, so he decided to use a big mallet on the pitiful remnants sitting there:
Day Air attack on Colombo , at 14,24
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
Ki-21 Sally x 115
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5
Lysander I x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
Lysander I: 5 destroyed
Hudson I: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Beaufort V-IX: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
SS Truant, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 20
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 4
(It's too bad that he won't move those 115 Sallys over to Bombay...[;)])
There were a lot of additional more "ordinary" air attacks on all the "usual suspects" in China and other places.
I'm getting more and more shipping where I want it, along with supplies and fuel. And soon I'll start to get my manpower situation straightened out too.
Dave Baranyi
Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12
Wellington III x 39
Hudson I x 9
B-24D Liberator x 32
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed, 5 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 3 destroyed
Wellington III: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Nikki Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tatsutake Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Nichiryo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
744 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 62
Port hits 2
On the other hand, PzB got tired of my nuisance flights coming out of Colombo, so he decided to use a big mallet on the pitiful remnants sitting there:
Day Air attack on Colombo , at 14,24
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
Ki-21 Sally x 115
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5
Lysander I x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
Lysander I: 5 destroyed
Hudson I: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Beaufort V-IX: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
SS Truant, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 20
Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 4
(It's too bad that he won't move those 115 Sallys over to Bombay...[;)])
There were a lot of additional more "ordinary" air attacks on all the "usual suspects" in China and other places.
I'm getting more and more shipping where I want it, along with supplies and fuel. And soon I'll start to get my manpower situation straightened out too.
Dave Baranyi
RE: More Death from the Skies
David,
I´m curious about your plans in India. Are you thinking of evacuating your RN ships and your airpower? Or you will stay until the end???
Maybe this would be your last chance to withdraw the RN ships at Karachi. Seems that KB & Co are not around.
I´m curious about your plans in India. Are you thinking of evacuating your RN ships and your airpower? Or you will stay until the end???

Maybe this would be your last chance to withdraw the RN ships at Karachi. Seems that KB & Co are not around.
RE: More Death from the Skies
ORIGINAL: toraq
David,
I´m curious about your plans in India. Are you thinking of evacuating your RN ships and your airpower? Or you will stay until the end???
Maybe this would be your last chance to withdraw the RN ships at Karachi. Seems that KB & Co are not around.
Right now I'm in a very good position in India. Remember, Karachi gives me "infinite" supply and fuel and all my replacements. I have lots of planes there, and a number of good battle fleets. As well, my troops keep on accumulating there and once there they start to replenish themselves as well as rest. I'm also making it hard for PzB to move his troops forward because I'm bombing Bombay and Ahmadabad incessantly.
Having my ships and planes in Karachi has a number of advantages:
1 - PzB can't send in bombardment fleets without risking some very heavy casualties - and I've got plenty of aircraft on "naval attack" which make bombardments even more difficult for him - if he uses slower, bigger ships he has to come within range of my planes.
2 - He can't pull his ships out of Bombay, or he risks me sending in a bombardment fleet to hit it.
3 - If and when PzB finally gets some troops to Karachi, my fleets can bombard them every night, which causes no end of problem for attacking troops
4 - He can't use LBA to attack my fleets because I've closed the air fields at Bombay and am in the process of doing so at Ahmadabad. If he sends LBA in without fighter cover the hundreds of fighters that I have there will decimate his LBA in no time. (My fighters are all rested and the squadrons are at full strength)
5 - The more I destroy the airfields and port at Bombay and Ahmadabad, the better experience my air crews get, which means less damage to them and more experience. This means that they do more damage to supplies and troops, making it more difficult to rebuild the bases and send supply to the troops in the field.
6 - More experienced air crews means that it is more dangerous for PzB to risk the KB to attack Karachi - do he really want to face hundreds of experienced, rested and fully staffed fighter and bomber groups coming from multiple bases? If he really, really want to take Karachi out - he can, provided he risks both the KB and his surface fleet, but he will take big casualties while my air and surface forces in the Pacific continue to rest up, gather strength, and add Avengers all the while I build up big air bases for my ever increasing LBA power. When I start seriously hitting his bases in the Pacific he will think that it is Bombay all over again, but by then he will have to deal with Lightnings too.
So I see no reason to remove any of my forces from India. I'm still rationalizing their locations, and sure, I'm having lots of trouble in Burma, but PzB may soon regret having forces stuck in Burma as much as Wobbly did a couple of game months ago.
Dave Baranyi
RE: More Death from the Skies
And yet more fun with airplanes on July 28:
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8
Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 11
F4F-4 Wildcat x 24
Swordfish x 20
Wirraway x 8
Kittyhawk I x 12
Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar: 2 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 damaged
Swordfish: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Wirraway: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
79 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 8
And Malir is still a level 2 airfield.
But don't forget the Karachi-Bombay "connection":
Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 10
Wellington III x 26
Hudson I x 9
B-24D Liberator x 32
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Nichiryo Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
AP Tatsutake Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Zukai Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Nikki Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
148 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 59
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 2
It appears that PzB has pulled most of his planes out of Bombay - he can't fly and I won't stop bombing. And now my planes are getting less and less damage.
I guess that PzB has decided to take his "frustration" out on poor, pretty much defenseless Colombo:
Day Air attack on Colombo , at 14,24
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
Ki-21 Sally x 99
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4
Lysander I x 2
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 8 destroyed, 5 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
Lysander I: 2 destroyed
Hudson I: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied Ships
SS Salmon, Bomb hits 1, on fire
Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 23
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1
But I'm happy to take out a few of his planes with my "lost patrol".
Speaking of "The Lost Patrol", a number of Allied field units have been able to get to some highways between Bombay and Ahmadabad while on their way to Karachi. This will help to goof up PzB's land supply and road control.
Not much is happening in Java, which is always good for me. My "blind squirrels" did get one hit in on what appears to be part of a fast transport TF:
Day Air attack on TF, near Batavia at 19,59
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
A6M3 Zero x 21
Allied aircraft
Beaufort V-IX x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 5
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 10 destroyed
Japanese Ships
CL Kiso, Bomb hits 1, on fire
Japanese ground losses:
44 casualties reported
PzB continues to bomb "lost patrols" in China too. The amount of effort that he is spending there suggests to me that he is using that to try to train up new pilots. That's okay, I'm doing similar things around Timor, PNG and the Marshalls.
Dave Baranyi
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8
Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 11
F4F-4 Wildcat x 24
Swordfish x 20
Wirraway x 8
Kittyhawk I x 12
Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar: 2 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 damaged
Swordfish: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Wirraway: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
79 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 8
And Malir is still a level 2 airfield.
But don't forget the Karachi-Bombay "connection":
Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 10
Wellington III x 26
Hudson I x 9
B-24D Liberator x 32
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
AP Nichiryo Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
AP Tatsutake Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Zukai Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Nikki Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
148 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 59
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 2
It appears that PzB has pulled most of his planes out of Bombay - he can't fly and I won't stop bombing. And now my planes are getting less and less damage.
I guess that PzB has decided to take his "frustration" out on poor, pretty much defenseless Colombo:
Day Air attack on Colombo , at 14,24
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
Ki-21 Sally x 99
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4
Lysander I x 2
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 8 destroyed, 5 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
Lysander I: 2 destroyed
Hudson I: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied Ships
SS Salmon, Bomb hits 1, on fire
Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 23
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1
But I'm happy to take out a few of his planes with my "lost patrol".
Speaking of "The Lost Patrol", a number of Allied field units have been able to get to some highways between Bombay and Ahmadabad while on their way to Karachi. This will help to goof up PzB's land supply and road control.
Not much is happening in Java, which is always good for me. My "blind squirrels" did get one hit in on what appears to be part of a fast transport TF:
Day Air attack on TF, near Batavia at 19,59
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
A6M3 Zero x 21
Allied aircraft
Beaufort V-IX x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 5
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 10 destroyed
Japanese Ships
CL Kiso, Bomb hits 1, on fire
Japanese ground losses:
44 casualties reported
PzB continues to bomb "lost patrols" in China too. The amount of effort that he is spending there suggests to me that he is using that to try to train up new pilots. That's okay, I'm doing similar things around Timor, PNG and the Marshalls.
Dave Baranyi
RE: More Death from the Skies
The fly boys in India are keeping up the good work again on July 29:
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8
Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 11
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
Swordfish x 17
Wirraway x 8
Kittyhawk I x 12
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
142 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 10
and:
Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12
Wellington III x 41
B-24D Liberator x 29
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
Japanese Ships
AP Nikki Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Yasukuni Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tatsutake Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PC Takunan Maru #2, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Zukai Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP Nichiryo Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
290 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 51
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 2
Bombay's airfields are now at a damage level of 99.
I've got all my troops back and positioned in Karachi and Malir, and they are building up the bases nicely. Soon I'll be able to fly even more planes.
BTW - for those folks involved in the arguments over Allied LBA - somewhere between 40 and 50% of my bombers are flying - the rest are under constant repair. I've got lots of air support troops, so that helps out.
Things were reasonbly quiet elsewhere, except for Java where PzB did another big air assault:
Day Air attack on Bandoeng , at 19,61
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 35
A6M3 Zero x 25
Ki-21 Sally x 68
Ki-49 Helen x 24
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5
Kittyhawk I x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M3 Zero: 7 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 8 destroyed, 1 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5
I've been flying planes in and out of Bandoeng in an attempt to keep some CAP there, otherwise PzB will do to me what I did to Bombay.
In other news, more ships are getting to where they are supposed to be and the first dedicated TFs are starting to go to support my bases at most risk. (Keeping with the theme of "Loose Lips Sink Ships", I won't be mentioning where these TFs will be going in harm's way. [;)]) But I'm still a week's sailing away from having any fuel in Perth, so my original estimates for getting a serious response to the situation in Java still holds. (I don't think that the KB is far away from such a "juicy" opportunity.)
Dave Baranyi
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8
Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 11
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
Swordfish x 17
Wirraway x 8
Kittyhawk I x 12
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
142 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 10
and:
Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12
Wellington III x 41
B-24D Liberator x 29
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
Japanese Ships
AP Nikki Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Yasukuni Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tatsutake Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PC Takunan Maru #2, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Zukai Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP Nichiryo Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
290 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 51
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 2
Bombay's airfields are now at a damage level of 99.
I've got all my troops back and positioned in Karachi and Malir, and they are building up the bases nicely. Soon I'll be able to fly even more planes.
BTW - for those folks involved in the arguments over Allied LBA - somewhere between 40 and 50% of my bombers are flying - the rest are under constant repair. I've got lots of air support troops, so that helps out.
Things were reasonbly quiet elsewhere, except for Java where PzB did another big air assault:
Day Air attack on Bandoeng , at 19,61
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 35
A6M3 Zero x 25
Ki-21 Sally x 68
Ki-49 Helen x 24
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5
Kittyhawk I x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M3 Zero: 7 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 8 destroyed, 1 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5
I've been flying planes in and out of Bandoeng in an attempt to keep some CAP there, otherwise PzB will do to me what I did to Bombay.
In other news, more ships are getting to where they are supposed to be and the first dedicated TFs are starting to go to support my bases at most risk. (Keeping with the theme of "Loose Lips Sink Ships", I won't be mentioning where these TFs will be going in harm's way. [;)]) But I'm still a week's sailing away from having any fuel in Perth, so my original estimates for getting a serious response to the situation in Java still holds. (I don't think that the KB is far away from such a "juicy" opportunity.)
Dave Baranyi
RE: More Death from the Skies
I see. You think you can hold India. That´s why you keep your forces there. For me, India is doomed. But even though, maybe it is a good idea to keep the RN there.
But knowing PzB, I´m sure he will deserve something special for those poor guys of the RN. And remember, PzB is committed in India so he will do as much as he can to finally conquer Karachi and destroy the last British pockets there.
How is the reinforcement pool in Karachi? Any troops, aircraft... coming in a few days?
But knowing PzB, I´m sure he will deserve something special for those poor guys of the RN. And remember, PzB is committed in India so he will do as much as he can to finally conquer Karachi and destroy the last British pockets there.
How is the reinforcement pool in Karachi? Any troops, aircraft... coming in a few days?
RE: More Death from the Skies
ORIGINAL: toraq
I see. You think you can hold India. That´s why you keep your forces there. For me, India is doomed. But even though, maybe it is a good idea to keep the RN there.
But knowing PzB, I´m sure he will deserve something special for those poor guys of the RN. And remember, PzB is committed in India so he will do as much as he can to finally conquer Karachi and destroy the last British pockets there.
How is the reinforcement pool in Karachi? Any troops, aircraft... coming in a few days?
As I said above, having the supply, fuel and reinforcements makes all the difference in the world. I keep on getting new forces and my old forces are being improved by the day. Remember, I deliberately pulled out a lot of troops so that they wouldn't be hit with huge fatigue levels. And these troops are getting reinforcements daily so that they are recovering their strength fast.
Right now it appears that PzB is forcussing on chasing my escapees from Delhi into the northeast corner of India. I guess that he plans to reduce all of India to Malir and Karachi then go in with what he hopes will be "overwhelming" force. But that continues to buy me time, and as the old song goes, "Time..., is on my side, yes it is."
In the meanwhile, his focus on India and Java is allowing me to continue to distribute my forces in the Central and South Pacific the way that I like. Soon I will have situations that will make Karachi look like a sandcastle. And the important point about Allied offensives in the Central Pacific is that the US supply is relatively close.
The next month will continue to be tough but I am happy with the way that things are going. Now as long as the AI doesn't want me to return the Formidable in August...[8|]
Dave Baranyi
RE: More Death from the Skies
Mmm. The point of wobbs hitting Java though was that it was something he could not ignore. Is there anything in CentPac which he could not ignore?
Truk?
I think he could probably even ignore that if he lost Truk but won the game. You gotta stop him from getting an autovictory. You think you can hold him off in India long enough?
Truk?
I think he could probably even ignore that if he lost Truk but won the game. You gotta stop him from getting an autovictory. You think you can hold him off in India long enough?
RE: More Death from the Skies
Mmm. The point of wobbs hitting Java though was that it was something he could not ignore. Is there anything in CentPac which he could not ignore?
He ignores me in the Central Pacific and I'll be in the Marianas in force before Christmas 1942. [:D]
Dave
RE: More Death from the Skies
July 30 saw PzB take Lahore, but I never expected to hold it. I'm now scattering my retreating troops all over the countryside. Some of them will make it to Karachi. In the meanwhile Karachi keeps on getting stronger and stronger. And the Air Force keeps on doing their job very, very well:
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8
Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 13
F4F-4 Wildcat x 22
Swordfish x 19
Wirraway x 8
Kittyhawk I x 9
Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar: 1 damaged
Swordfish: 2 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 14
You realize, of course, that this is actually a fairly motly group of carrier leftovers. This is a great way for them to gain experience.
Then there is the "Main Event":
Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 11
Wellington III x 39
Hudson I x 12
B-24D Liberator x 34
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AP Atsuta Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP Nichiryo Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
AP Yasukuni Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tatsutake Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Nikki Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Zukai Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
412 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 58
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2
One of those ships sank this time.
If PzB doesn't do something I may very well go and invade Bombay by Sea in a month or two. [;)]
Everything else continues to be nicely boring - which means that I get to continue to distribute supplies, fuel and forces where I want without any interruptions.
BTW - just to remind folks - it's been three weeks now since I took over and Perth still doesn't have any fuel despite transport TFs that have been steaming towards it from the nearest fuel deports since the takeover. Yes, planning IS everything in this game.
Dave Baranyi
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8
Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 13
F4F-4 Wildcat x 22
Swordfish x 19
Wirraway x 8
Kittyhawk I x 9
Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar: 1 damaged
Swordfish: 2 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 14
You realize, of course, that this is actually a fairly motly group of carrier leftovers. This is a great way for them to gain experience.
Then there is the "Main Event":
Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 11
Wellington III x 39
Hudson I x 12
B-24D Liberator x 34
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AP Atsuta Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP Nichiryo Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
AP Yasukuni Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tatsutake Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Nikki Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Zukai Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
412 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 58
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2
One of those ships sank this time.
If PzB doesn't do something I may very well go and invade Bombay by Sea in a month or two. [;)]
Everything else continues to be nicely boring - which means that I get to continue to distribute supplies, fuel and forces where I want without any interruptions.
BTW - just to remind folks - it's been three weeks now since I took over and Perth still doesn't have any fuel despite transport TFs that have been steaming towards it from the nearest fuel deports since the takeover. Yes, planning IS everything in this game.
Dave Baranyi
RE: More Death from the Skies
Very curious as to who will liberate India, assuming its going to be liberated. Its a long way for the US to go (and why bother, Japan is nearer), and I think the British alone will have a very hard time reconquering all of that.
RE: More Death from the Skies
ORIGINAL: String
The aussies ofcourse.. [:D]
Make it the Kiwis, seeing a NZ flag flying over Rangoon, now that would be kudos high indeed. [:D]
"It was a rainy day..."
Rain did have an effect this turn - hiding a number of ships and bases from attack. But not Ahmadabad and Bombay:
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8
Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 12
F4F-4 Wildcat x 22
Swordfish x 17
Wirraway x 8
Kittyhawk I x 12
Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar: 3 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 damaged
Swordfish: 5 damaged
Wirraway: 4 destroyed
Japanese ground losses:
65 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 13
Hmmm - my planes took more losses than most recent attacks. Was it weather-related (the night-fighter attack was scratched due to weather) or has PzB brought some AA-equiped troops in?
Bombay was a different and much "nicer" story:
Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12
Wellington III x 41
Hudson I x 12
B-24D Liberator x 17
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AP Nichiryo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Atsuta Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Nikki Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tatsutake Maru, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AP Yasukuni Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PC Takunan Maru #2, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
292 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 20
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 3
A couple of those APs and that PC sank afterwards. PzB still has a number of TFs in Bombay, so this coming turn I've set all of my Wellingtons to "naval attack", while leaving the B-24s on airfield attack and the other guys on Port attack. I'll take more damage this way, but I need to let PzB know that he can't leave TFs there and not be molested...[;)]
BTW - the port and airfield at Karachi are still growing nicely, as are the air field and defenses at Malir. Once the port at Karachi reaches "9" then all of my hundreds of engineers and hundreds of engineering vehicles will be solely dedicated to improving the airfield. It won't be too long before Karachi is at "Three-9s". There is still no sign of PzB advancing on Malir. He is trying to advance on Ralwapinda, but I've got the way clogged with troops who are going every which way. He also attacked another of my "stray" units and "kick-started" it past and on the way to Karachi. I "appreciate" all the help I can get. [:D] Once that unit gets to Karachi it will start to replenish and rest and soon be able to fight again very nicely along with all the other troops. I'm building quite the nice force there, and a big Brit division will be coming soon too.
Some pleasant news today also - the first TF from northern Oz reached Perth unmolested. And the first TF from Eastern Oz is about to reach northern Oz unmolested too. That is very encouraging and I am loading up a number of small transport TFs and plan to send them "north". My bases in Northern Oz need supply if they are to continue to be able to sustain bombing campaigns. (And Timor looks so "tempting", and so near...[;)])
I've also started to get transport TFs to the West Coast. They aren't getting much rest there - I just refuel them, let them sit for one turn to "zero" their operation points, then refill them with various "goodies" to send westward. And more TFs are on the way.
August is definitely starting out the way I had hoped that it would.
Dave Baranyi
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8
Allied aircraft
Fulmar x 12
F4F-4 Wildcat x 22
Swordfish x 17
Wirraway x 8
Kittyhawk I x 12
Allied aircraft losses
Fulmar: 3 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 damaged
Swordfish: 5 damaged
Wirraway: 4 destroyed
Japanese ground losses:
65 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 13
Hmmm - my planes took more losses than most recent attacks. Was it weather-related (the night-fighter attack was scratched due to weather) or has PzB brought some AA-equiped troops in?
Bombay was a different and much "nicer" story:
Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12
Wellington III x 41
Hudson I x 12
B-24D Liberator x 17
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AP Nichiryo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Atsuta Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Nikki Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tatsutake Maru, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AP Yasukuni Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PC Takunan Maru #2, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
292 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 20
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 3
A couple of those APs and that PC sank afterwards. PzB still has a number of TFs in Bombay, so this coming turn I've set all of my Wellingtons to "naval attack", while leaving the B-24s on airfield attack and the other guys on Port attack. I'll take more damage this way, but I need to let PzB know that he can't leave TFs there and not be molested...[;)]
BTW - the port and airfield at Karachi are still growing nicely, as are the air field and defenses at Malir. Once the port at Karachi reaches "9" then all of my hundreds of engineers and hundreds of engineering vehicles will be solely dedicated to improving the airfield. It won't be too long before Karachi is at "Three-9s". There is still no sign of PzB advancing on Malir. He is trying to advance on Ralwapinda, but I've got the way clogged with troops who are going every which way. He also attacked another of my "stray" units and "kick-started" it past and on the way to Karachi. I "appreciate" all the help I can get. [:D] Once that unit gets to Karachi it will start to replenish and rest and soon be able to fight again very nicely along with all the other troops. I'm building quite the nice force there, and a big Brit division will be coming soon too.
Some pleasant news today also - the first TF from northern Oz reached Perth unmolested. And the first TF from Eastern Oz is about to reach northern Oz unmolested too. That is very encouraging and I am loading up a number of small transport TFs and plan to send them "north". My bases in Northern Oz need supply if they are to continue to be able to sustain bombing campaigns. (And Timor looks so "tempting", and so near...[;)])
I've also started to get transport TFs to the West Coast. They aren't getting much rest there - I just refuel them, let them sit for one turn to "zero" their operation points, then refill them with various "goodies" to send westward. And more TFs are on the way.
August is definitely starting out the way I had hoped that it would.
Dave Baranyi
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RE: "It was a rainy day..."
If Timor is looking tempting it raises another interesting question, could you grab an island half way between Java and Oz with a level one airbase on it and then start flying planes into Java?
RE: "It was a rainy day..."
ORIGINAL: Tom Hunter
If Timor is looking tempting it raises another interesting question, could you grab an island half way between Java and Oz with a level one airbase on it and then start flying planes into Java?
Why would I want to do that? I would just end up with two Japanese level 4 bases between me and that new base. I'd much rather take those two level 4 bases in Timor and fill them full of bombers. Then I can take any other island that I like and keep air control of the region.
The issue isn't putting planes into Java - I can do that right now. The issue is knocking out PzB's bases that are between Oz and Java. I only want to worry about air attacks from one direction, not three as I currently have to deal with.
Dave
RE: "It was a rainy day..."
Well, August 1 started out fine, but as I suspected, my naval attacks on the TFs in Bombay didn't accomplish much - I only bounced a couple of bombs off of some BBs. But it does send a message to PzB. In the meanwhile my usual air attacks did normally well:
Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12
Hudson I x 12
B-24D Liberator x 29
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
294 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 58
Port hits 1
I've put my Wellingtons back onto "port attack". At the same time, I've put all my LBA in northern Oz to "naval patrol 20%", which is what I use when I want to rest my bombers. All of the bombers in northern Oz are getting more worn down than I like, and I don't have enough supply there to keep them going at a reasonable pace. So while I'm waiting for the first supply TFs to arrive I'll leave the bombers on "patrol" for a couple of days, then switch the tac bombers to "naval attack/20% search) to let them rest but keep PzB's TFs "honest". (I don't generally use 4 engine bombers for "naval attack" except for "special occasions".)
Interestingly, PzB now has two combat TFs in the waters between Truk and Rabaul. My patrols have reported 4 DDs in one of them and 4 CAs in the other. Are they both really SC TFs, or is PzB moving some carriers into the South Pacific? I've got some nice "surprises" waiting for either situation (or both), along with lots of rested, large tac bomber groups. We'll see what happens.
Things continue to build nicely in Northern India. I've got troops moving everywhere like a disturbed ant hill in the northeast, and my bases continue to build nicely in Bombay and Malir.
Dave Baranyi
Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12
Hudson I x 12
B-24D Liberator x 29
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
294 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 58
Port hits 1
I've put my Wellingtons back onto "port attack". At the same time, I've put all my LBA in northern Oz to "naval patrol 20%", which is what I use when I want to rest my bombers. All of the bombers in northern Oz are getting more worn down than I like, and I don't have enough supply there to keep them going at a reasonable pace. So while I'm waiting for the first supply TFs to arrive I'll leave the bombers on "patrol" for a couple of days, then switch the tac bombers to "naval attack/20% search) to let them rest but keep PzB's TFs "honest". (I don't generally use 4 engine bombers for "naval attack" except for "special occasions".)
Interestingly, PzB now has two combat TFs in the waters between Truk and Rabaul. My patrols have reported 4 DDs in one of them and 4 CAs in the other. Are they both really SC TFs, or is PzB moving some carriers into the South Pacific? I've got some nice "surprises" waiting for either situation (or both), along with lots of rested, large tac bomber groups. We'll see what happens.
Things continue to build nicely in Northern India. I've got troops moving everywhere like a disturbed ant hill in the northeast, and my bases continue to build nicely in Bombay and Malir.
Dave Baranyi
Stuck in the mud...
"Stuck in the mud." That's how the August 2 turn felt. Essentially, all the planning in the world can't speed things up - "stuff" takes time. For example, The airfields at Tawara maxed out at 6, but there is no point in flying in more B-17s, because I've only got 90 air support points there and I'm already in the "red". I've got air support units back in Pearl, but no ships to move them forward. The ships will eventually get to Pearl, but there is no way to rush them. (Ah, for the "good old days" of Pacwar and it's teleporting transports. [;)]) It's the same thing at Lunga and Port Moresby. And Pearl is running low on supplies, as is Australia, but I still don't have any significant quatities of transports going further East than Pearl yet. (I've been pulling supplies and fuel out of places like Pearl in order to supply the Central and South Pacific.) Eventually I will get things back into the balance that I like, but for now it is a shame that I can't take advantage of the opportunities that are presenting themselves.
In the meanwhile, PzB keeps on playing around Java, but not really committing overwhelming force. I'm guessing that he wants to try to minimize losses, but the longer he waits, the better my bases get prepared. I could send some longer-range bombers back into Java, but I don't want to right now because they just aren't prepared enough. I'm also short of supplies in Northern Oz so I can't repair damaged planes as quickly as I would like. It's all a matter of "time" again, but it is frustrating.
In India, on the other hand, time is still with me. PzB is trying to round up my troops in northeastern India and I am trying to extricate them to the plains to the north. I'm hoping that PzB continues to commit troops there. Unfortunately, my air attacks from Karachi to Bombay were rained out on the 2nd. I wonder if PzB will try to move some fighters back in? In any event, this also means more rest for my bombers.
In Burma it looks like we are now both "stuck in the mud". I figured that the jungle and malaria would have to start to slow down PzB's troops sooner or later, and they do appear to have lost some of their otherwise "lightning" speed. I've got some Chinese troops trying to do some "funny business" - it will be interesting to see if they get away with it.
Speaking of Chinese troops, I've got some Chinese troops "happily" marching across northeast China towards Manchuria. If PzB has left any bases there ungarrisoned, I'll take them, otherwise I'll keep on the "long march to the east". Maybe I can get PzB to chase me into the Soviet Union, or pull too many troops out our Manchuria so that the Soviets become activated. I'd love to open up another front. I'd rush air support units to the Russian bases at any cost, followed by all of my long range bombers. Oh well, I can only dream while watching the rain and the clock...
Dave Baranyi
In the meanwhile, PzB keeps on playing around Java, but not really committing overwhelming force. I'm guessing that he wants to try to minimize losses, but the longer he waits, the better my bases get prepared. I could send some longer-range bombers back into Java, but I don't want to right now because they just aren't prepared enough. I'm also short of supplies in Northern Oz so I can't repair damaged planes as quickly as I would like. It's all a matter of "time" again, but it is frustrating.
In India, on the other hand, time is still with me. PzB is trying to round up my troops in northeastern India and I am trying to extricate them to the plains to the north. I'm hoping that PzB continues to commit troops there. Unfortunately, my air attacks from Karachi to Bombay were rained out on the 2nd. I wonder if PzB will try to move some fighters back in? In any event, this also means more rest for my bombers.
In Burma it looks like we are now both "stuck in the mud". I figured that the jungle and malaria would have to start to slow down PzB's troops sooner or later, and they do appear to have lost some of their otherwise "lightning" speed. I've got some Chinese troops trying to do some "funny business" - it will be interesting to see if they get away with it.
Speaking of Chinese troops, I've got some Chinese troops "happily" marching across northeast China towards Manchuria. If PzB has left any bases there ungarrisoned, I'll take them, otherwise I'll keep on the "long march to the east". Maybe I can get PzB to chase me into the Soviet Union, or pull too many troops out our Manchuria so that the Soviets become activated. I'd love to open up another front. I'd rush air support units to the Russian bases at any cost, followed by all of my long range bombers. Oh well, I can only dream while watching the rain and the clock...
Dave Baranyi
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RE: Stuck in the mud...
Well at least you have a breathing space. Your units in Northern India need some time to recover and overall you're on the defensive. Your transports wil move at the same speed anyway.
PzB is probably resting and regrouping his forces for the final offensive in India. Your reinforcements arrive directly in Karachi and you don't have to care about getting supplies there. Getting you out of there and finishing off India will be a tough job.
Whatever the outcome the Java venture will have been a useful distraction coming at a critical time.
PzB is probably resting and regrouping his forces for the final offensive in India. Your reinforcements arrive directly in Karachi and you don't have to care about getting supplies there. Getting you out of there and finishing off India will be a tough job.
Whatever the outcome the Java venture will have been a useful distraction coming at a critical time.