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RE: Beer Wars: Nik vs Ron GC-15

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The crippled English battleship Revenge is finished off in Dutch Harbor. Intel reports the damaged sub O-23 has foundered attempting to reach Java. Very strong air assets have been confirmed there. Imperial troops continue to advance in Sumatra. JAAF assets are pounding Lashio where a Chinese expeditionary army has encamped.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/13/42

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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 8
Ki-15 Babs x 2

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 89

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
134 casualties reported

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 50

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63


Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 13


No Allied losses

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
7 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 29,29


Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 7


Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Akagane Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Houn Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 29,29


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Akagane Maru, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 29,29


Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 12
Blenheim IV x 16


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Kaika Maru
AP Midori Maru
AP Yamagata Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Sunten Maru
AK Hakonesan Maru
AP Mikage Maru #2, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Blenheim I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 5000 feet
2 x Blenheim IV bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 5000 feet
2 x Blenheim I bombing at 5000 feet
2 x Blenheim IV bombing at 5000 feet
2 x Blenheim IV bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Blenheim IV bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
G4M1 Betty x 41

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
8 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
2 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
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Naval bombardment of Koepang, at 28,77


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
DD Yukaze
DD Yakaze
DD Sawakaze
CL Oi
CL Kitakami
BB Yamashiro
BB Fuso
BB Nagato


Allied ground losses:
436 casualties reported
Guns lost 9
Vehicles lost 3

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 32
Port hits 11
Port fuel hits 4
Port supply hits 7

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TF 105 troops unloading over beach at Talasea, 59,88


Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported

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TF 144 troops unloading over beach at Koepang, 28,77


Japanese ground losses:
538 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Wasile

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 436 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Wasile base !!!



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Ground combat at Lashio

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 40182 troops, 305 guns, 9 vehicles

Defending force 51978 troops, 237 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
428 casualties reported

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/14/42


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TF 144 troops unloading over beach at Koepang, 28,77


Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported

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TF 45 troops unloading over beach at Munda, 64,95


Japanese ground losses:
54 casualties reported

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TF 101 troops unloading over beach at Amboina, 39,73


Japanese ground losses:
124 casualties reported

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TF 144 troops unloading over beach at Koepang, 28,77


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TF 10 encounters mine field at Balikpapan (31,64)

Japanese Ships
MSW Keinan Maru
MSW Fukeui Maru #7
MSW Fuji Maru
MSW Choyo Maru #2
PC Kunashiri, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 5
Ki-15 Babs x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 84

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
18 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63


Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 11


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
4 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 23,60


Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 14
Brewster 339D x 9
Buffalo I x 8
T.IVa x 3
Martin 139 x 24
P-40B Tomahawk x 5
P-40E Warhawk x 23


Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Sendai
CA Chokai
DD Sagiri
DD Yugiri
DD Shikinami
DD Shinonome

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
3 x T.IVa bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 23,60


Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 6


Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Isonami
DD Usugumo

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Diamond Harbor , at 28,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 39
D3A Val x 101
B5N Kate x 97

Allied aircraft
Lysander I x 6
Wirraway x 3
Buffalo I x 6
P-40B Tomahawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
D3A Val: 2 destroyed, 20 damaged
B5N Kate: 3 destroyed, 24 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Lysander I: 4 destroyed
Wirraway: 2 destroyed
Buffalo I: 4 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
BB Revenge, Bomb hits 49, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AK West Cawthon, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Paul Luckenbach, Bomb hits 1
AK Kalgan, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
85 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Port hits 8
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
13 x B5N Kate bombing at 7000 feet
20 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
21 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
13 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
12 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
19 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
19 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
22 x B5N Kate bombing at 7000 feet
20 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
19 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
G4M1 Betty x 39

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
1 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
8 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,26

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 85

Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 8 destroyed

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Day Air attack on TF at 23,60


Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 8
Brewster 339D x 9
Buffalo I x 5
T.IVa x 3
Martin 139 x 23
P-40B Tomahawk x 5
P-40E Warhawk x 25


Allied aircraft losses
T.IVa: 1 damaged
Martin 139: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Shirakumo
DD Asagiri
CA Chokai, Bomb hits 1
DD Murakumo
DD Shirayuki
CL Sendai
DD Hatsuyuki

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
3 x T.IVa bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
2 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
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TF 31 troops unloading over beach at Biak, 46,77


Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Lashio

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 40390 troops, 306 guns, 9 vehicles

Defending force 50823 troops, 221 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
204 casualties reported

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RE: Beer Wars: Nik vs Ron GC-15

Post by Nikademus »

Imperial forces have advanced to within miles of Palembang in Sumatra. Cleanup in the IO continues. Combined Fleet estimates that no less than 3 dozen enemy warships and merchants have been sunk since the Operation began. Back in the Southern Resource area, a pesky nest of Allied heavy bombers has been eliminated. Several examples of new American heavy bomber have fallen into our hands and will be transported back to the home Islands for study [:D]







AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/15/42

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Naval bombardment of Batavia, at 19,59 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses

14 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Amagiri
DD Yugiri
DD Sagiri
DD Asagiri, Shell hits 3
DD Ayanami
DD Shikinami
DD Uranami
DD Murakumo
DD Hatsuyuki, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Shirayuki
DD Isonami
DD Shirakumo
DD Usugumo
DD Shinonome
DD Fubuki
CL Sendai
CA Chokai


Allied ground losses:
75 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 14
Port hits 15
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 3

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Naval bombardment of Koepang, at 28,77


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
DD Yukaze
DD Yakaze
DD Sawakaze
CL Oi
CL Kitakami
BB Yamashiro
BB Fuso
BB Nagato


Allied ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 20
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 3
Port supply hits 9

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Sub attack at 38,62

Japanese Ships
DD Shiokaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yukikaze
CL Nagara

Allied Ships
SS Seadragon

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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 3
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Ichang , at 47,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 17
Ki-51 Sonia x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 2 damaged

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 86

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 30

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
35 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar strafing at 100 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,27

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 83

Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 2 destroyed

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Day Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 6

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Kumagawa Maru
DD Sazanami

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Talasea at 59,88

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 31

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Olympia Maru
AK Nosiro Maru
AK Nitiran Maru
AK Nitiyo Maru
AK Norway Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Samarang Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
2 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
2 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
4 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,24

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
D3A Val x 33
B5N Kate x 31

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Steelhead, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Hunter
AK Empire Beaver
AK Empire Seal, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Empire Ridley, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
TK Empire Flint, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
AK Empire Grenfell, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Haven, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Latimer, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,24

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
D3A Val x 10
B5N Kate x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Empire Bruce
AK Empire Hunter, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Steelhead, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Grenfell, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Seal, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Ridley, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,24

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
D3A Val x 14
B5N Kate x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Empire Grenfell, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Ocean, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
TK Empire Flint, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 28,26

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 20
B5N Kate x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Tjerk Hiddes, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on Amboina , at 39,73

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63


Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 18


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 5000 feet
7 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 5000 feet
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TF 37 troops unloading over beach at Tacloban, 44,58


Japanese ground losses:
74 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Amboina

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2513 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 2511 troops, 28 guns, 4 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 2)


Japanese ground losses:
78 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Lashio

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 40504 troops, 310 guns, 9 vehicles

Defending force 50101 troops, 223 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
183 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Koepang

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7670 troops, 72 guns, 20 vehicles

Defending force 1159 troops, 4 guns, 1 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Koepang base !!!



Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 5 destroyed
Martin 139: 3 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
133 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
2531 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Biak

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 772 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Biak base !!!



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Ground combat at Talasea

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 547 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Talasea base !!!



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Ground combat at Munda

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 485 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Munda base !!!


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/16/42


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TF 111 troops unloading over beach at Amboina, 39,73


Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported

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TF 143 troops unloading over beach at Amboina, 39,73


Japanese ground losses:
41 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 9
Ki-51 Sonia x 17

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
8 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 4
Ki-15 Babs x 2

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 1 destroyed

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 92

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
129 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 30

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
14 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
10 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 32

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses

Aircraft Attacking:
31 x Ki-43-Ib Oscar strafing at 100 feet
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Day Air attack on Diamond Harbor , at 28,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 32
D3A Val x 97
B5N Kate x 112

Allied aircraft
Lysander I x 6
Wirraway x 3
Buffalo I x 2
P-40B Tomahawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
D3A Val: 2 destroyed, 13 damaged
B5N Kate: 20 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Lysander I: 3 destroyed
Wirraway: 1 destroyed
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Kalgan, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AK Hatterlock, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Hawksbill, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Flamingo, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
AK Empire Baxter, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Paul Luckenbach, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK West Cawthon, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
216 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 2

Port hits 15
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
19 x B5N Kate bombing at 7000 feet
17 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
18 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
13 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
15 x B5N Kate bombing at 7000 feet
10 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
19 x B5N Kate bombing at 7000 feet
20 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
22 x B5N Kate bombing at 7000 feet
19 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
19 x B5N Kate bombing at 7000 feet
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Day Air attack on Amboina , at 39,73

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 5 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63


Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 16


Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 3 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 5000 feet
6 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 5000 feet

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Ground combat at Lashio

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 40717 troops, 316 guns, 10 vehicles

Defending force 49418 troops, 217 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
162 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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RE: Beer Wars: Nik vs Ron GC-15

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Imperial forces have advanced to within miles of Palembang in Sumatra. Cleanup in the IO continues. Combined Fleet estimates that no less than 3 dozen enemy warships and merchants have been sunk since the Operation began. Back in the Southern Resource area, a pesky nest of Allied heavy bombers has been eliminated. Several examples of new American heavy bomber have fallen into our hands and will be transported back to the home Islands for study [:D]

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7670 troops, 72 guns, 20 vehicles
Defending force 1159 troops, 4 guns, 1 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Koepang base !!!

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 5 destroyed
Martin 139: 3 destroyed

The Fortress design is too complex for your little yellow engineers. It's time wasted.[:D]

if you want to study the design for the Martin be my guest [8D]
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ooooooo [:@]


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Luckly, the massacre of allied transports is close to an end (basically i lost most of the ships docked in colombo/diamond harbour [:@]).

In a normal game, you should already start suffering pilot shartage. In this modded game (which i like more than stock scenario), aircrafts have more duarbility and you start with 1000 IJN pilots (+50/month).

it means for the first year and an half i will face the full airforce (no squadron in the rears training) and all with >65-70 experience.
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yes.....KB is pretty much done playing. (av points are getting low and primary mission acomplished)

pilots - True....i'm starting to think that the 1000 may be too generous. At this point i'm hovering at about 700 available "fully" trained pilots after 2 full months of moderate combat with 50 a month as the prod rate. Attrition has been somewhat low. 500 may be a better starting number but we'll need to get farther in 1942 before I can really make a determination. "overall" exp has been dropping as desired since even the "fully trained" pilots are on average 10-20 points lower in exp than the pre-war starting elite of the more seasoned and/or extensively trained groups. KB' exp hasn't dropped much thx mainly to the Turkey shoot against low AA and fighter defended targets.

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yes.....KB is pretty much done playing. (av points are getting low and primary mission acomplished)

pilots - True....i'm starting to think that the 1000 may be too generous. At this point i'm hovering at about 700 available "fully" trained pilots after 2 full months of moderate combat with 50 a month as the prod rate. Attrition has been somewhat low. 500 may be a better starting number but we'll need to get farther in 1942 before I can really make a determination. "overall" exp has been dropping as desired since even the "fully trained" pilots are on average 10-20 points lower in exp than the pre-war starting elite of the more seasoned and/or extensively trained groups. KB' exp hasn't dropped much thx mainly to the Turkey shoot against low AA and fighter defended targets.


what exp you get them ? did you change it or is it 70 as in stock scenario?

i think the tweak on durability kept aircraft losses (and so pilot losses) lower than expected. However, when allies get better (and more) stuff, you should experience more attrition.
Overall, i think the mod is nice.

i don't know how the speed change you made will affect the game later on. speed+durability+many trained pilots means in '43 for allies won't be that easy.
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I left the pilot exp the same for now (70 IJN/ 55 IJA) but may change that depending on how i tweak the starting pool.

Dur - The results are roughly close to the actual results i've recorded out of Lundstrom, Frank, Shores, and Bergerud. I would expect anyone used to the stock scenerio to get the impression that losses are below average. Real life losses in excess of a dozen planes in most battles tended to be rare and extreme. I recall that in the BoB, the "bloodiest" day resulted in the loss of 60ish planes all told. In general air combat isn't nearly as bloody as is regularily thought. I liked the results we saw over Timor and Diamond harbor....despite the large Zero escorts, shots were still taken at the bombers due to no "uber CAP"

Only area i'm still dispapointed is in large air battles where the loss rate exponentially skyrockets. Had a 5 on 4 carrier battle using the mod that still resulted in 260 losses for one side (shot down!) Part of the issue is the scalability of the DUR rating and the very high kill value of the standard 2 x 20/2x 7.7 package or the 6 x .50 package. They are deadly in large numbers against anything under 60 DUR.

I'm playing around with some factors in an attempt to make the tactical bombers more survivable in larger airbattles without either neutering the fighters against larger aircraft and/or making them too anemic with the smaller battles. (yikes)

Speed chg. Subtle so far since we havn't seen much Nate/Oscar combat. You may notice it however to a more subtle degree as in the DH and Timor battles. DUR isn't the only reason why fighters are surviving large CAP defenses to attack the bombers....its also because the speed mod is allowing more mismatched fighters to survive. (i.e. your Lancasters and Wirraways weren't all slaughtered instantly by Zeros) Alot of potential firing rounds ended up with no pulse of fire due to maneuvering and evading.

I'm working to keeping a seperation of JAAF and IJAF units so that the differences can be seen more readily

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i don't know how the speed change you made will affect the game later on. speed+durability+many trained pilots means in '43 for allies won't be that easy.

If japan has avoided a long attrition battle then yes, it should be much harder. (i.e. with good pilots the uber-corsair issue should be much more muted)
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/17/42

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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 6
Ki-15 Babs x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Ichang , at 47,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 20
Ki-51 Sonia x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 2 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 81

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
100 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 44

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
G3M Nell x 51
G4M1 Betty x 26
H6K4 Mavis x 2

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 3 damaged
H6K4 Mavis: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
11 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 17000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 17000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
7 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 17000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 17000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 17000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
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Day Air attack on So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion, at 20,55

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
G3M Nell x 49
Ki-21 Sally x 17
Ki-48 Lily x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 5 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 3 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 11 damaged


Allied ground losses:
201 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 7000 feet
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
15 x G3M Nell bombing at 7000 feet
8 x G3M Nell bombing at 7000 feet
14 x G3M Nell bombing at 7000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 7000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 7000 feet
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Day Air attack on Amboina , at 39,73

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63


Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 5000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 5000 feet

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Ground combat at Amboina

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3382 troops, 23 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 2425 troops, 28 guns, 4 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1


Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Tacloban

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1044 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tacloban base !!!



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Ground combat at Lashio

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 40953 troops, 321 guns, 11 vehicles

Defending force 48668 troops, 212 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
455 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Palembang

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 20510 troops, 211 guns, 3 vehicles

Defending force 5346 troops, 58 guns, 8 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3


Japanese ground losses:
123 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Allied ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/18/42


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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 9
Ki-51 Sonia x 16

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 1 destroyed
IL-4c: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 8
Ki-15 Babs x 1

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 1 destroyed
IL-4c: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 87

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
80 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 38

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
12 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 48
G3M Nell x 56
G4M1 Betty x 26
H6K4 Mavis x 2

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
14 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 17000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
8 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 17000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 17000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 17000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 17000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 17000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 17000 feet
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Day Air attack on So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion, at 20,55

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
G3M Nell x 52
Ki-21 Sally x 21
Ki-48 Lily x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 3 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 5 damaged


Allied ground losses:
72 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 7000 feet
18 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 7000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 7000 feet
20 x G3M Nell bombing at 7000 feet
16 x G3M Nell bombing at 7000 feet
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 7000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 7000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 7000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Amboina at 39,73


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Hyuga Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 29,67


Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 9


Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Fuso

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
2 x Martin 139 bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Amboina , at 39,73

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 5 damaged


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Runway hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63


Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 3


Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged

Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kendari at 33,71

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17C Fortress: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Maya Maru
DD Sagi

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-17C Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
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Sub attack at 29,67

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Torpedo hits 1
CL Kitakami
BB Yamashiro

Allied Ships
SS KXIII


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Ground combat at Amboina

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3369 troops, 23 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 2286 troops, 24 guns, 4 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0


Japanese ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
100 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Lashio

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 41102 troops, 321 guns, 11 vehicles

Defending force 47452 troops, 205 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
405 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Palembang

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 20330 troops, 202 guns, 2 vehicles

Defending force 5109 troops, 47 guns, 8 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2


Japanese ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported

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you misunderstood me. I know the losses in this game are more close to RL than in stock Scenario.
i meant that maybe when you set the 1000 pilots for IJN you were thinking at stock scenario losses.
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whoopsie...my bad. just say "shuddup Nik" when i go into Novel mode.

u sank my battleship! [:@]

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whoopsie...my bad. just say "shuddup Nik" when i go into Novel mode.

u sank my battleship! [:@]


well, you sunk 3 of mine as well. you should be happy [8D].

you should bomb airfields closer. your precious G4M don't make much damage at 17k feets.
2 airstrikes to Sorebaja of 50-70 G4M and damage was minimal. [:D]

Anyway, you lost 450 aircrafts/pilots in 10 weeks. That makes 45 pilots/week. since you get 50 a month, you lose 150 pilots every month more or less.

So by end of July you will run out of pilots anyway, regardless of the 1000 starting ones. so better leave some bases in Phi for training, you gonna need it [;)]
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yeah but the Queen will give you more [:D]

G4M - yeah....not much was it?...didn't want my boys getting too chopped up by AA.....yet [:D]

speaking of chopped up....finally got one of your low flying LB-30's [:D]
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yeah but the Queen will give you more [:D]

G4M - yeah....not much was it?...didn't want my boys getting too chopped up by AA.....yet [:D]

speaking of chopped up....finally got one of your low flying LB-30's [:D]

well maybe the Queen will give me more in the future, but right now she is asking me to withdraw the ones i have so she is not very kind [:D]
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lol.....boy would that be a Monty Python moment.....the Queen and the Admiralty standing outside the Firth of Forth, awaiting the arrival of their returning battleship. On comes a garbage scow...carrying a big heap of scrap metal with some gun barrels pointing out........


This is an ex-battleship!
This battleship has ceased to be!
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ASW is heating up again. Its looking like Kaiser is stationing Dutch subs along what he feels will be the likely path for my forces to take as the noose around Java tightens. After two days of hunting, Imperial counter-measures appear to have struck some success against one Dutch intruder.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/19/42

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ASW attack at 29,67

Japanese Ships
DD Mikazuki
PG Tosho Maru
PG Unkai Maru #1
PG Hayakafuku Maru
PG Nishho Maru
PG Shosei Maru
PG Shinko Maru #1

Allied Ships
SS KXIII

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Sub attack at 38,58

Japanese Ships
AP Gokoku Maru
MSW W.14
MSW W.13

Allied Ships
SS Shark

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Day Air attack on Ichang , at 47,33

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 17
Ki-51 Sonia x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged

Runway hits 6

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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 80

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
52 casualties reported

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 22

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Day Air attack on So.Sumatra Garrison Battalion, at 20,55

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
G3M Nell x 50
Ki-21 Sally x 3
Ki-48 Lily x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 7 damaged


Allied ground losses:
94 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

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Day Air attack on TF, near Amboina at 39,73

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 11

Allied aircraft losses
B-17C Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Kokoku Maru
AK Uzan Maru
AK Nittsu Maru

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Day Air attack on Cebu Island , at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 25
Ki-48 Lily x 13

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63

Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 8

Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on TF, near Rangoon at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 5

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Haisho Maru
AP Midori Maru
AP Kaika Maru
AP Sunten Maru
AP Teiun Maru

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ASW attack at 29,67

Japanese Ships
DD Mikazuki
PG Tosho Maru
PG Unkai Maru #1
PG Hayakafuku Maru
PG Nishho Maru
PG Shosei Maru
PG Shinko Maru #1

Allied Ships
SS KXIII

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TF 31 troops unloading over beach at Noemfoor, 45,76


Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported

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TF 105 troops unloading over beach at Gasmata, 59,90


Japanese ground losses:
55 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Amboina

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 3318 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 2171 troops, 19 guns, 4 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Amboina base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
703 casualties reported
Guns lost 9


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Palembang

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 40369 troops, 361 guns, 9 vehicles

Defending force 4980 troops, 42 guns, 8 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 53 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Palembang base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
55 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
354 casualties reported
Guns lost 15
Vehicles lost 2


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Lashio

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 41256 troops, 321 guns, 11 vehicles

Defending force 46356 troops, 199 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
248 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/20/42


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ASW attack at 29,67

Japanese Ships
DD Mikazuki
PG Tosho Maru
PG Unkai Maru #1
PG Hayakafuku Maru
PG Nishho Maru
PG Shosei Maru
PG Shinko Maru #1

Allied Ships
SS KXIII

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TF 83 troops unloading over beach at Sabang, 19,41


Japanese ground losses:
218 casualties reported

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TF 96 troops unloading over beach at Lautem, 33,78


Japanese ground losses:
252 casualties reported

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TF 96 troops unloading over beach at Lautem, 33,78


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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 9
Ki-51 Sonia x 16

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
IL-4c: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4

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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 90

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 44

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Day Air attack on TF, near Lautem at 33,78

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 15
B-17E Fortress x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Seiwa Maru
DD Tsuga
ML Wakatake
DD Kuri

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Day Air attack on Cebu Island , at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 25
Ki-48 Lily x 6

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63

Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 7

Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 30,66

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 4

Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
MSW Keinan Maru

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Day Air attack on TF, near Lautem at 33,78

Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 9
B-17E Fortress x 4

Allied aircraft losses
B-17C Fortress: 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Kuri
AP Senkai Maru
AP Seiwa Maru
AP Ural Maru

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ASW attack at 29,67

Japanese Ships
DD Mikazuki
PG Tosho Maru
PG Unkai Maru #1
PG Hayakafuku Maru
PG Nishho Maru
PG Shosei Maru
PG Shinko Maru #1

Allied Ships
SS KXIII, hits 2, on fire


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Ground combat at Lashio

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 41446 troops, 325 guns, 11 vehicles

Defending force 45791 troops, 193 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
507 casualties reported

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Serious ASW this turn. Another Imperial sub falls off the waters of Hawaii. Darn DM's. The Sixth Fleet gains some measure of revenge however by sinking two loaded AK's off the West Coast. Lashio falls to a Banzai attack by Imperial troops, further shattering the remains of the Commonwealth forces formally occupying Burma and hurling the intruding Chinese army back in disarray as well. Japan is now in sole possession of Burma!

Massive air battle over Java as Imperial Naval air assets begin to asert air superiority over the capital city.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/21/42

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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 24

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 9000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 9000 feet
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Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 81
G3M Nell x 52
G4M1 Betty x 23
H6K4 Mavis x 1

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 3
CW-21B Demon x 5
Brewster 339D x 19
Buffalo I x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
G3M Nell: 4 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged
H6K4 Mavis: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 4 destroyed
CW-21B Demon: 4 destroyed
Brewster 339D: 19 destroyed
Buffalo I: 15 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
7 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
9 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 14000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 14000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
5 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 14000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 14000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
B5N Kate x 33

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 12 damaged

Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x B5N Kate bombing at 5000 feet
11 x B5N Kate bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 5000 feet

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Ground combat at Lautem

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2609 troops, 20 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 1511 troops, 31 guns, 4 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Lautem base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
54 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
1608 casualties reported
Guns lost 23
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Sabang

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1358 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 90 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Sabang base !!!



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Ground combat at Lashio

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 41622 troops, 328 guns, 11 vehicles

Defending force 28439 troops, 113 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Lashio base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
910 casualties reported
Guns lost 13
Vehicles lost 3

Allied ground losses:
763 casualties reported
Guns lost 8


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

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Ground combat at Noemfoor

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 653 troops, 4 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Noemfoor base !!!



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Ground combat at Gasmata

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 427 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Gasmata base !!!


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/22/42


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ASW attack at 108,71

Japanese Ships
SS I-175, hits 8, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DM Breese
DM Tracy
DM Preble
DM Pruitt

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ASW attack at 39,63

Japanese Ships
DD Ariake
DD Yugure
DD Shigure
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Yugumo

Allied Ships
SS Sealion

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ASW attack at 30,66

Japanese Ships
MSW Keinan Maru
MSW Fukeui Maru #7
MSW Fuji Maru
MSW Choyo Maru #2
PC Hachijo

Allied Ships
SS KXVII

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TF 143 troops unloading over beach at Bulla, 40,75


Japanese ground losses:
131 casualties reported

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TF 143 troops unloading over beach at Bulla, 40,75


Japanese ground losses:
54 casualties reported

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Sub attack at 137,48

Japanese Ships
SS I-21

Allied Ships
AK Steel Voyager, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Walter Luckenbach
AK J.L. Luckenbach
DD Rathburne
DD Lawrence
DD King

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Sub attack at 137,48

Japanese Ships
SS I-21

Allied Ships
AK J.L. Luckenbach, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Steel Trader
AK Boreas
DD Rathburne
DD Lawrence
DD King

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Day Air attack on Homan , at 49,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 9
Ki-15 Babs x 1

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 78
G3M Nell x 48
G4M1 Betty x 24
H6K4 Mavis x 1

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 1
CW-21B Demon x 3
Brewster 339D x 11
Buffalo I x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
G3M Nell: 2 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 1 damaged
CW-21B Demon: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Brewster 339D: 12 destroyed
Buffalo I: 9 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 31

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
9 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 14000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 14000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 14000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 14000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 14000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 14000 feet
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Day Air attack on Cebu Island , at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 26
Ki-48 Lily x 9

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 11000 feet
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Sub attack at 59,50

Japanese Ships
AK Havana Maru

Allied Ships
SS Trout

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The troops in Lashio were already retreating. no way to supply them. Burma is now all japanese (for now [;)]).

Major losses in air battle over Soerebaja. i was hoping to cause more losses to be honest (and to lose less).

Build up continuing in Australia, NZ and south pacific.

PS: my B17 somehow refuse to fly last turns (and pilots are maxed out).
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Yep...saw that, (Lashio) so being the gentleman that I am, i meerely wished to help faciliate your relocation. [:D]

Soerebaja-

Pretty much went as I expected though things probably would have been dicier had your P-40's been present to help stiffen up the primarily Buffalo and Dutch fighter defense. I gathered Japan's best for this air offensive and it turned out golden with about 25ish enemy fighters shot down or written off after the battle and a similar # the 2nd day of the assault. A brave defense by the defenders but ultimately futile in the face of my brilliance....oh the pilots helped some too [;)]

B-17.... set to naval attack? I've been being better lately about covering my operations with some LRCAP...that might be contributing.
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