Build 1.70 Status

[rockmedic109]

Then it was deficient IQ of the end user. Shocking! I am getting old enough now to have senior moments.

[Andrew Brown]

ORIGINAL: ADavidB

- The following Australian bases are hard coded to be malarial:
Wyndham (base 757)
Derby (base 758)
Broome (base 759)
Cooktown (base 770)
Cairns (base 771)
Thursday Island (base 738)

I believe that none of these bases should be malarial.

Mike - If I understand you correctly,

1 - All of the above bases will change to "non-malarial" from "malarial" in the next mod

2 - These changes will show up in an existing game once it is upgraded (such as my current game that was started under v1.602)

Can you please confirm that both of those statements are correct?

My understanding is that this is correct. The changes (if they were all done) will show up in existing games. These bases will no longer be malarial, which is they way it should be - there was no endemic malaria affecting troops in these locations during WW2.

[doktorblood]

ORIGINAL: Andrew Brown

ORIGINAL: ADavidB

- The following Australian bases are hard coded to be malarial:
Wyndham (base 757)
Derby (base 758)
Broome (base 759)
Cooktown (base 770)
Cairns (base 771)
Thursday Island (base 738)

I believe that none of these bases should be malarial.

Mike - If I understand you correctly,

1 - All of the above bases will change to "non-malarial" from "malarial" in the next mod

2 - These changes will show up in an existing game once it is upgraded (such as my current game that was started under v1.602)

Can you please confirm that both of those statements are correct?

My understanding is that this is correct. The changes (if they were all done) will show up in existing games. These bases will no longer be malarial, which is they way it should be - there was no endemic malaria affecting troops in these locations during WW2.

Malaria outbreaks still occur throughout Queensland to this very day. You are wrong.

[ADavidB]

Just to throw some "science" into the mix, here is an article that I found after a very brief query into "Pub Med" ( http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi ) :

"Notifications of imported malaria in Western Australia, 1990–2001: incidence, associated factors and chemoprophylaxis"

http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/182 ... 57_fm.html

The abstract is as follows:

Abstract
Objective: To assess changes in and factors associated with recent malaria notifications in Western Australia (WA).

Design: Retrospective analysis of the WA Notifiable Infectious Diseases Database and enhanced surveillance questionnaires completed by attending medical practitioners.

Patients: Cases of malaria notified between January 1990 and December 2001.

Main outcome measures: Annual notifications by demographic variables (including age, sex, occupation and place of residence), region/country of acquisition, chemoprophylaxis used, Plasmodium species and outcome.

Results: 482 patients were notified (mean age, 31 years; 80% male); 57% lived in Perth, 31% in country areas and 12% in an immigration detention centre. Comparison between the 6-year periods 1990–1995 and 1996–2001 showed that Plasmodium falciparum cases increased from 29 (14%) to 108 (44%; P < 0.001), while Plasmodium vivax cases decreased from 157 (77%) to 122 (50%; P < 0.001); immigrants in detention, defence force personnel and cases from Africa were increasingly represented (P < 0.05 in each case). Only 31% of patients took regular chemoprophylaxis and, among these, the regimen was appropriate in only a quarter. There was a median period of 3 days between symptom onset and diagnosis. One patient died.

Conclusions: There has been an increase in P. falciparum cases in WA since 1990. This reflects the influx of immigrants in detention, deployment of military personnel to East Timor and increasing numbers of cases from Africa. A significant number of Australian travellers who developed malaria had not taken chemoprophylaxis either regularly or at all, and, of those who had, the regimen was inadequate in most.



At the end of the article there is a link to an Australian Goverment website that contains a downloadable Excel spreadsheet showing the reported cases of "notifiable" diseases in Australia from 1917 to 1991:

http://www.health.gov.au/internet/wcms/ ... ndssar.htm

From that spreadsheet you can easily see the trends in diseases as a function of year and location in Australia.

Have fun -

Dave Baranyi

[kaleun]

Most important: When will this patch come out?
I am specially interested in the submarine changes. Warspite is killing my subs most cruelly...

[michaelm75au]

But take into consideration the built up city/hospitals/etc in Nth Queensland, the effect of malaria would be slight and controlable.
Not a malaria infected swamp with 365 days of mosquitoes.[:D]

Michael

ORIGINAL: doktorblood

ORIGINAL: Andrew Brown

ORIGINAL: ADavidB



Mike - If I understand you correctly,

1 - All of the above bases will change to "non-malarial" from "malarial" in the next mod

2 - These changes will show up in an existing game once it is upgraded (such as my current game that was started under v1.602)

Can you please confirm that both of those statements are correct?

My understanding is that this is correct. The changes (if they were all done) will show up in existing games. These bases will no longer be malarial, which is they way it should be - there was no endemic malaria affecting troops in these locations during WW2.

Malaria outbreaks still occur throughout Queensland to this very day. You are wrong.

[Mike Wood]

Hello...

Confirmed. Confirmed.

Bye...

Micahel Wood

ORIGINAL: ADavidB

- The following Australian bases are hard coded to be malarial:
Wyndham (base 757)
Derby (base 758)
Broome (base 759)
Cooktown (base 770)
Cairns (base 771)
Thursday Island (base 738)

I believe that none of these bases should be malarial.

Mike - If I understand you correctly,

1 - All of the above bases will change to "non-malarial" from "malarial" in the next mod

2 - These changes will show up in an existing game once it is upgraded (such as my current game that was started under v1.602)

Can you please confirm that both of those statements are correct?

If so, WOW! and THANKS!

That will cause some shifts in strategic thinking for me...

Dave Baranyi

[Andrew Brown]

ORIGINAL: doktorblood
Malaria outbreaks still occur throughout Queensland to this very day. You are wrong.

There is no endemic malaria in Australia today. Isolated cases, especially when they occur in travellers from malarial areas overseas, does not constitute endemic malaria.

But the important point, as I have mentioned already, is not how many isolated cases there are. There were indeed some cases of malaria in Australia during WW2. Some of these may even have been in people who had not been overseas, though I am not sure about that. The real question is whether the effect of malaria (or other tropical diseases) at any Australian location was large enough to cause major reductions in the fighting strength of forces based there. In other words - was the effect so great that it deserves to be a malarial base in game terms. Given that, according to the document at the link provided by ADavidB, there were only 607 reported cases of malaria reported in all of Australia during 1942, and that most of these, as noted, occurred in personnel returning from overseas, then I don't see any evidence that entire units based in Australia were affected by locally caught malaria to any significant extent at all.

That is why I don't think that any bases in Australia should be malarial.

Andrew

[tigercub]

NO bases in AUSTRALIA should have malaria at all if its in the game sould be taken out ! malaria LOL LOL

[michaelm75au]

Funny.
Most Australians seem to say NO to MALARIA.[:-]

Wonder why no-one in rest of world will believe us!!![:D]

Michael

[Nikademus]

Because you all talk funny and your toilets swirl water in the wrong direction.

[:'(]

[frank1970]

1.604 is up for download at the members area.

[Tom Hunter]

michaelm,

We don't believe you because we know that your malaria is making you delerious, and therefore your statements are unreliable.

And your obviously in denail about your malaria problem. Once you admit you have it you can call on a higher power to help you deal with it.

Maybe we can all log into chat and start a 12 step program. "Hi my name is Tom, and I have malaria...."

[doktorblood]

Don't forget the other crowd favourites, like Dengue Fever and Barmha Forest virus, present in the Northern Oz enviroment.

[Mark VII]

Not true! I was just there back in June and their toilets do not swirl in the wrong direction. They just plunge straight down under a high-speed jet of water. Normally I have never noticed the direction my toilet spins but some postings I read somewhere on this forum got me to thinking so I checked it out while there. Maybe I only encountered the newer models?[&:]

Oopps, you are correct on one point Nik, they do talk funny down there![:D]

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

Because you all talk funny and your toilets swirl water in the wrong direction.

[:'(]

[ADavidB]

Hello...

Confirmed. Confirmed.

Bye...

Micahel Wood

Great! Thanks Mike -

Dave Baranyi

[Yamato hugger]

Aussies have toilets?

[Dereck]

I upgraded to 1.604 because of the pilot replacement bug and I don't think it's fixed unless there are hoops I need to jump through I don't know about.

I moved a game file from v1.3 to v1.4 and ran and saved a game turn.

V1.3 pilot replacement pool
7/19
Navy - 2
Army - 148
USMC - 1472

After moving game to V1.4 and running a game turn:
7/20
Navy - 2
Army - 7
USMC - 1450

After moving game to V1.605 and running a game turn:
7/21
Navy - 2
Army - 7
USMC - 1448

7/22
Navy - 2
Army - 7
USMC - 1446

Can someone please help? This pilot bug was a game stopper for me as it was and it still seems like it is unless I'm missing something.

[Crimguy]

Are you an accountant?

Just curious. . .

[Andrew Brown]

ORIGINAL: doktorblood

Don't forget the other crowd favourites, like Dengue Fever and Barmha Forest virus, present in the Northern Oz enviroment.

I didn't forget about the other diseases. It is just that their infection rate is, like malaria, too small to be considered. Dengue fever, again according to ADavidB's excellent source, affected about 600 people in the entire country in 1940 (no figures avaibale from that source for 1941-1944); typhus, 60-70; Ross River virus (today the most common) - no figures available, but it was not epidemic. Even today, with infection rates much higher than earlier, it affects a few thousand people in the whole country in a 12 month period - still too small to be considered. Ross River virus was not detected until the 1950s in any case, and its effects are usually - though not always - mild. Infection is also thought to confer lifelong immunity afterwards. Barmah forest virus is much less common than the similar Ross river virus, and was only identified in the 1980s, long after WW2. Common diseases of the time, like scarlet fever and influenza, were much more common than all of these, but occurred worldwide.

Have I put off anyone from visiting Australia yet? [:)]