Andy Mac ...... Revenge of the Allies
Moderators: wdolson, Don Bowen, mogami
RE: OPERATION SHRUBBERY
Cheers but if you want a great AAR check out PZB's and Wobblies books against each other !!!!
I tend to talk to much about my fears (which I blame PZB for......up until that AAR my normal 1st move was to strip India to reinforce Burma !!!!)
Now its all I can do to put up any kind of fight in Burma !!!!
Andy
I tend to talk to much about my fears (which I blame PZB for......up until that AAR my normal 1st move was to strip India to reinforce Burma !!!!)
Now its all I can do to put up any kind of fight in Burma !!!!
Andy
RE: OPERATION SHRUBBERY
OK I have now reviewed my options and I have made a few decisions.
I will hold at Johore as long as possible at least until the forts start to go down.
I would like to make Pauk either change his preparation or commit BB's.
I will flood the Malacca straight and around Singapore with Dutch and RN subs.
Cat and mouse is still the order of the day around Amboina.
Major TF's 120 miles away but I am holding my light and heavy TF back from the front both are moving NW this turn with my light TF moving to fuel at Kendari.
If he gives me an opportunity I will go for him but I am watching the weather very carefully hoping for a chance.
As long as POW stays alive and afloat she is the most powerfull ship in the area and while backed by Revenge and Repulse actually thats a powerfull experienced fleet.
Revenge and Repulse are both under armoured and have minimal air defence BUT they both have great XP and a decent 15" gun I would happily match them 3 for 3 versus any combination of IJN BB's.
(Although I would want some way to neutralise the IJN CA's as they are almost more dangerous than BB's)
Andy
I will hold at Johore as long as possible at least until the forts start to go down.
I would like to make Pauk either change his preparation or commit BB's.
I will flood the Malacca straight and around Singapore with Dutch and RN subs.
Cat and mouse is still the order of the day around Amboina.
Major TF's 120 miles away but I am holding my light and heavy TF back from the front both are moving NW this turn with my light TF moving to fuel at Kendari.
If he gives me an opportunity I will go for him but I am watching the weather very carefully hoping for a chance.
As long as POW stays alive and afloat she is the most powerfull ship in the area and while backed by Revenge and Repulse actually thats a powerfull experienced fleet.
Revenge and Repulse are both under armoured and have minimal air defence BUT they both have great XP and a decent 15" gun I would happily match them 3 for 3 versus any combination of IJN BB's.
(Although I would want some way to neutralise the IJN CA's as they are almost more dangerous than BB's)
Andy
RE: OPERATION SHRUBBERY
OK a little quiet this turn
My light TF fueled at Kendari and Betties tried to hit it the Dutch Fighters did well and protected the fleet.
Im sending in POW and Revenge to top off their tanks tonight lets hope they get as lucky .... I have reinforced the aircover over Kendari with 4 Wirraways and another 12 Dutch Buffalos.
Apart from that a raid on Akyab put a torp into a fiji class cruiser while the decrepit D class cruser was unharmed
I am withdrawing them to Colombo
Andy
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/04/42
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Day Air attack on Changsha , at 47,36
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 26
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 8
Ki-21 Sally x 45
Ki-48 Lily x 33
Allied aircraft
I-153c x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
I-153c: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied ground losses:
88 casualties reported
Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 12
Runway hits 61
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20
Ki-21 Sally x 94
Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 6 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Allied ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 32
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 110
Ki-48 Lily x 79
Ki-46-II Dinah x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
Allied ground losses:
614 casualties reported
Guns lost 15
Vehicles lost 2
Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 34
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52
Japanese aircraft
C5M Babs x 5
Ki-21 Sally x 75
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 4 damaged
Allied ground losses:
238 casualties reported
Airbase hits 7
Runway hits 26
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 33
No Japanese losses
Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 30
Aircraft Attacking:
30 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 4th Mixed Regiment, at 29,33
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 11
CW-22 Falcon x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 6
LB-30 Liberator x 7
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kendari at 33,71
Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 15
Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 6 destroyed, 3 damaged
Allied Ships
CL Achilles
CL Adelaide
DD Le Triomphant
Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 14
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged
Allied Ships
CL Dauntless
CL Mauritius, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF, near Johore Bahru at 22,49
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 35
Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 2
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 2 damaged
Allied Ships
Day Air attack on TF, near Kendari at 33,71
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6
Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 damaged
Allied Ships
DD Voyager
CL Dragon
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Ground combat at Changsha
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 4050 troops, 134 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 75705 troops, 505 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
496 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
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Ground combat at 49,34
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 1662 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 1849 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 25 to 1
Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Manila
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 3088 troops, 108 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 71196 troops, 648 guns, 169 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
61 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Johore Bahru
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 4065 troops, 151 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 55260 troops, 462 guns, 32 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
190 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
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Ground combat at Clark Field
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 2167 troops, 32 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 1844 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied assault odds: 1 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Allied ground losses:
159 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
My light TF fueled at Kendari and Betties tried to hit it the Dutch Fighters did well and protected the fleet.
Im sending in POW and Revenge to top off their tanks tonight lets hope they get as lucky .... I have reinforced the aircover over Kendari with 4 Wirraways and another 12 Dutch Buffalos.
Apart from that a raid on Akyab put a torp into a fiji class cruiser while the decrepit D class cruser was unharmed
I am withdrawing them to Colombo
Andy
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/04/42
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Day Air attack on Changsha , at 47,36
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 26
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 8
Ki-21 Sally x 45
Ki-48 Lily x 33
Allied aircraft
I-153c x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
I-153c: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied ground losses:
88 casualties reported
Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 12
Runway hits 61
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20
Ki-21 Sally x 94
Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 6 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Allied ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 32
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 110
Ki-48 Lily x 79
Ki-46-II Dinah x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
Allied ground losses:
614 casualties reported
Guns lost 15
Vehicles lost 2
Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 34
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52
Japanese aircraft
C5M Babs x 5
Ki-21 Sally x 75
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 4 damaged
Allied ground losses:
238 casualties reported
Airbase hits 7
Runway hits 26
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 33
No Japanese losses
Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 30
Aircraft Attacking:
30 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 4th Mixed Regiment, at 29,33
Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 11
CW-22 Falcon x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 6
LB-30 Liberator x 7
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kendari at 33,71
Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 15
Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 6 destroyed, 3 damaged
Allied Ships
CL Achilles
CL Adelaide
DD Le Triomphant
Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 14
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 12 damaged
Allied Ships
CL Dauntless
CL Mauritius, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF, near Johore Bahru at 22,49
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 35
Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 2
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 2 damaged
Allied Ships
Day Air attack on TF, near Kendari at 33,71
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6
Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 damaged
Allied Ships
DD Voyager
CL Dragon
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Ground combat at Changsha
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 4050 troops, 134 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 75705 troops, 505 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
496 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
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Ground combat at 49,34
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 1662 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 1849 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 25 to 1
Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Manila
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 3088 troops, 108 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 71196 troops, 648 guns, 169 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
61 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Johore Bahru
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 4065 troops, 151 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 55260 troops, 462 guns, 32 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
190 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
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Ground combat at Clark Field
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 2167 troops, 32 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 1844 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied assault odds: 1 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Allied ground losses:
159 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
RE: OPERATION SHRUBBERY
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/05/42
Pauk hits Amboina again and bombards with a CL sqn I spot the heavies on there way in so it wont be long until he tries a deliberate attack.
I know that my Martins wont hurt BB's so they are ordered to ground attack but I dont hold out much hope !!!!
In China I lose my 1st city supply is just to low and 3 corps cannot hold agains the onslaught its annoying but not unexpected.
What is annoying is that 3 other corps were on there way but are to slow.
Ahh well
Rangoon will fall soon.
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amboina at 39,73
Japanese Ships
DD Yukikaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Shiokaze
Allied Ships
PT TM-4, Shell hits 67, and is sunk
PT TM-11, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT TM-13, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
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Naval bombardment of Johore Bahru, at 22,49
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
T.IVa: 1 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed
Japanese Ships
DD Hiyodori
DD Hasu
DD Tsuga
DD Kuri
DD Matsukaze
DD Asakaze
CL Kuma
CA Maya
Allied ground losses:
657 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 1
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 13
Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 4
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Naval bombardment of Medan, at 20,45 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 1 destroyed
5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Kamo
DD Fuyo
DD Minekaze
CL Isuzu
Allied ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 12
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 5
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Sub attack at 33,73
Japanese Ships
SS I-18
Allied Ships
CL Dragon, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Le Triomphant
DD Voyager
DD Whipple
DD Parrott
DD Edsall
DD Barker
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Day Air attack on Changsha , at 47,36
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 26
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 8
Ki-21 Sally x 48
Ki-48 Lily x 22
Allied aircraft
I-153c x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 2 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
I-153c: 1 damaged
Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 39
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Johore Bahru , at 22,49
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 21
Ki-21 Sally x 113
Ki-15 Babs x 5
Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 13 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 2 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 2 destroyed
Allied ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 30
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 106
Ki-48 Lily x 78
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 6 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 6 damaged
Allied ground losses:
454 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1
Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 53
Port hits 11
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 2
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52
Japanese aircraft
C5M Babs x 6
Ki-21 Sally x 72
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged
Allied ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 11
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 19
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 18
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on 1st Burma Brigade, at 30,34
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 16
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Aircraft Attacking:
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Ground combat at Changsha
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 4064 troops, 135 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 75100 troops, 503 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
814 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
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Ground combat at 49,34
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 1662 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 1827 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Kweilin
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 58002 troops, 705 guns, 18 vehicles
Defending force 15703 troops, 109 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 23 to 1 (fort level 3)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Kweilin base !!!
Japanese ground losses:
398 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
Allied ground losses:
231 casualties reported
Guns lost 12
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Manila
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 3088 troops, 108 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 71195 troops, 655 guns, 167 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
134 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Johore Bahru
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 26623 troops, 406 guns, 17 vehicles
Defending force 54263 troops, 439 guns, 29 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
133 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Ground combat at Rangoon
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 1158 troops, 0 guns, 78 vehicles
Defending force 1188 troops, 14 guns, 4 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 4)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3
Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1
Allied ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
Vehicles lost 1
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Ground combat at Moulmein
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 1342 troops, 0 guns, 92 vehicles
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 27 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Moulmein base !!!
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Ground combat at Clark Field
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 2005 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 2939 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied assault odds: 0 to 1
Allied ground losses:
267 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Pauk hits Amboina again and bombards with a CL sqn I spot the heavies on there way in so it wont be long until he tries a deliberate attack.
I know that my Martins wont hurt BB's so they are ordered to ground attack but I dont hold out much hope !!!!
In China I lose my 1st city supply is just to low and 3 corps cannot hold agains the onslaught its annoying but not unexpected.
What is annoying is that 3 other corps were on there way but are to slow.
Ahh well
Rangoon will fall soon.
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Amboina at 39,73
Japanese Ships
DD Yukikaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze
DD Umikaze
DD Suzukaze
DD Shiokaze
Allied Ships
PT TM-4, Shell hits 67, and is sunk
PT TM-11, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PT TM-13, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
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Naval bombardment of Johore Bahru, at 22,49
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
T.IVa: 1 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed
Japanese Ships
DD Hiyodori
DD Hasu
DD Tsuga
DD Kuri
DD Matsukaze
DD Asakaze
CL Kuma
CA Maya
Allied ground losses:
657 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 1
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 13
Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 4
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Naval bombardment of Medan, at 20,45 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 1 destroyed
5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Kamo
DD Fuyo
DD Minekaze
CL Isuzu
Allied ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 12
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 5
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Sub attack at 33,73
Japanese Ships
SS I-18
Allied Ships
CL Dragon, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Le Triomphant
DD Voyager
DD Whipple
DD Parrott
DD Edsall
DD Barker
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Day Air attack on Changsha , at 47,36
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 26
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 8
Ki-21 Sally x 48
Ki-48 Lily x 22
Allied aircraft
I-153c x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 2 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
I-153c: 1 damaged
Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 39
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Johore Bahru , at 22,49
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 21
Ki-21 Sally x 113
Ki-15 Babs x 5
Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 13 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 2 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 2 destroyed
Allied ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 30
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 106
Ki-48 Lily x 78
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 6 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 6 damaged
Allied ground losses:
454 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1
Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 53
Port hits 11
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 2
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52
Japanese aircraft
C5M Babs x 6
Ki-21 Sally x 72
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged
Allied ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 11
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 19
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 18
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on 1st Burma Brigade, at 30,34
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 16
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Aircraft Attacking:
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Ground combat at Changsha
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 4064 troops, 135 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 75100 troops, 503 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
814 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
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Ground combat at 49,34
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 1662 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 1827 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Kweilin
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 58002 troops, 705 guns, 18 vehicles
Defending force 15703 troops, 109 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 23 to 1 (fort level 3)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Kweilin base !!!
Japanese ground losses:
398 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
Allied ground losses:
231 casualties reported
Guns lost 12
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Manila
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 3088 troops, 108 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 71195 troops, 655 guns, 167 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
134 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Johore Bahru
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 26623 troops, 406 guns, 17 vehicles
Defending force 54263 troops, 439 guns, 29 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
133 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Ground combat at Rangoon
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 1158 troops, 0 guns, 78 vehicles
Defending force 1188 troops, 14 guns, 4 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 4)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3
Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1
Allied ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
Vehicles lost 1
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Ground combat at Moulmein
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 1342 troops, 0 guns, 92 vehicles
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 27 to 1 (fort level 2)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Moulmein base !!!
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Ground combat at Clark Field
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 2005 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 2939 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied assault odds: 0 to 1
Allied ground losses:
267 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
RE: OPERATION SHRUBBERY
ORIGINAL: Andy Mac
Hang on a minute I could have just screwed up badly.
He only had 25 zeroes on CAP if he had set 50% CAP that would imply I had destroyed virtually all the zeroes on the ground thats impossible he must have had a lot of zeroes there for me to have destroyed 22 on the ground.
Something isnt right the sneaky little Croatian is upta summit......
Could he have thrown away 22 zeroes just to bait a trap for my Heavies.[&:]
My escorts will be tired as will the bombers if he is sitting waitong on me with hundreds of Zeroes this is going to get painfull....
Na he wouldnt throw away Zeroes on bait ?
Would he......
OK now I know im getting paranoid !!!!
I hate sending a turn and waiting 12 hours for the response the suspense is killing [:D][:D][:D]
Remember that recent tests showed that Intel reports on air losses are overstated.
Nobody ever said if it's a bug or a feature, but apparently this bug/feature is more severe with regard to destroyed planes on the ground.
In one PBEM my opponent is reporting the correct number of destroyed planes (he is Japan), in the intel those losses are between 30 to 70% bigger than the one he can check counting the planes before and after (replacements off)
It would be nice if Matrix told us something about it.
Good luck [:)]
Nec recisa recedit
Operation Alamo
....is not working...
Ta MC hadnt realised that intel could be overstated.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/06/42
OK this is going to be a problem I have severely under estimated the impact of BB bombardments on my defences at Johore the positions is unsustainable.
One more attack and I will need to bug out no choice I am so pissed off but there it is Pauk is playing this one just about perfectly.
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BB Nagato
BB Mutsu
BB Ise
BB Hyuga
DD Shinonome
DD Sagiri
DD Mikazuki
DD Yakaze
DD Asagao
DD Karukaya
DD Kasasagi
I am also forced back into Bataan !!!!
Ground combat at Clark Field
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 1056 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 1829 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 27 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Clark Field base !!!
Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Johore Bahru
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 197141 troops, 2209 guns, 170 vehicles
Defending force 55876 troops, 396 guns, 22 vehicles
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 5
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 5)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 5
Japanese ground losses:
2961 casualties reported
Guns lost 85
Vehicles lost 4
Allied ground losses:
3242 casualties reported
Guns lost 40
Vehicles lost 2
For a first attack this is very very discouraging
But time will tell how it goes
Ta MC hadnt realised that intel could be overstated.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/06/42
OK this is going to be a problem I have severely under estimated the impact of BB bombardments on my defences at Johore the positions is unsustainable.
One more attack and I will need to bug out no choice I am so pissed off but there it is Pauk is playing this one just about perfectly.
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BB Nagato
BB Mutsu
BB Ise
BB Hyuga
DD Shinonome
DD Sagiri
DD Mikazuki
DD Yakaze
DD Asagao
DD Karukaya
DD Kasasagi
I am also forced back into Bataan !!!!
Ground combat at Clark Field
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 1056 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 1829 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 27 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Clark Field base !!!
Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Johore Bahru
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 197141 troops, 2209 guns, 170 vehicles
Defending force 55876 troops, 396 guns, 22 vehicles
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 5
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 5)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 5
Japanese ground losses:
2961 casualties reported
Guns lost 85
Vehicles lost 4
Allied ground losses:
3242 casualties reported
Guns lost 40
Vehicles lost 2
For a first attack this is very very discouraging
But time will tell how it goes
RE: Operation Alamo
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RE: Operation Alamo
And the south with my defences in Malaya falling so fast I am nervous about India


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RE: Operation Alamo
OK a list of fragments rescued and there destination so far.
Malaya HQ (Madras - Cadre only will form my West Command HQ after the fall of Malaya - III Corps will move to Dacca under East Command at that point)
FMSV Bde (Madras about 300 men all heavily disrupted this Bde was fought out in Malaya so I am evaccing as much of it as I can)
102 RN BF (Madras 500 Men will move to Trivandram under West Command)
108 RN BF (Yanam 400 Men will dig in at Yanam)
43 PS RCT (About 10 Squads still a fragment evacced after being retreated from Naga will move to North Command on anti Paratrooper duty at Lucknow or Delhi)
11 DAF - Madras
12 DAF - Yanam
16 DAF - Trivandram
All full units under West Command when they arrive on fort building duty.
Others
PAF Aviation about 400 men at Darwin
Barisan Regt 50% at Koepang/ 50% Derby
9th DAF Wyndam
109 USAAF/ 112 USAAF/ 118 USAAF (all fragments) at New Caledonia
Given that I dont think that Malaya will last overly long I am moving heavan and earth to reinforce Java ..... I NEED to delay him otherwise India (and possibly Australia) are very vulnerable.
I dont think malaya is going to get it done so I am workong and a mini fortress Soerbijou now to try and win time
Andy
Malaya HQ (Madras - Cadre only will form my West Command HQ after the fall of Malaya - III Corps will move to Dacca under East Command at that point)
FMSV Bde (Madras about 300 men all heavily disrupted this Bde was fought out in Malaya so I am evaccing as much of it as I can)
102 RN BF (Madras 500 Men will move to Trivandram under West Command)
108 RN BF (Yanam 400 Men will dig in at Yanam)
43 PS RCT (About 10 Squads still a fragment evacced after being retreated from Naga will move to North Command on anti Paratrooper duty at Lucknow or Delhi)
11 DAF - Madras
12 DAF - Yanam
16 DAF - Trivandram
All full units under West Command when they arrive on fort building duty.
Others
PAF Aviation about 400 men at Darwin
Barisan Regt 50% at Koepang/ 50% Derby
9th DAF Wyndam
109 USAAF/ 112 USAAF/ 118 USAAF (all fragments) at New Caledonia
Given that I dont think that Malaya will last overly long I am moving heavan and earth to reinforce Java ..... I NEED to delay him otherwise India (and possibly Australia) are very vulnerable.
I dont think malaya is going to get it done so I am workong and a mini fortress Soerbijou now to try and win time
Andy
RE: Operation Alamo
Given that I dont think that Malaya will last overly long I am moving heavan and earth to reinforce Java ..... I NEED to delay him otherwise India (and possibly Australia) are very vulnerable.
I dont think malaya is going to get it done so I am workong and a mini fortress Soerbijou now to try and win time
The jungle bases at the Burma/India border will hold off all sorts of attacks - don't worry about losing the inland bases. If your opponent tried to get to India via the land route you can "laugh your way to the bank"...
BTW - go back and review PzB vs Wobby and me in regards to using Java as a "distraction" to keep your opponent from taking India... then start moving forces to India "RUSH".
Good luck -
Dave Baranyi
RE: Operation Alamo
Yeah unfortunately I mad ethe mistake of trying fortress Singapore so at best all I iwll get is Cadres from Malaya. Pauk has played the Malaya campaign extremely well and that makes India vulnerable.
Had I realised I would probably have done a Sir Robin and evacced Malaya Army to Burma or Sumatra or somewhere else.
Instead I burned up trasnports reinforcing Singapore and prepping for Johore but his BB's are putting an end to defence of Johore.
I am digging in at the key points in India Chandpur/ Dacca/ Diamond Harbour/ Madras/ etc but I am short of engineers and Infantry
Now itaint over by a long shot but I misread Pauks intention and committment to Malaya and I got a few Bdes retreated a few to many times.
Ah well will make India or Australia fun !!!!
I will be re readign PZB's conquest.
I am still convinced andf always have been that its stop them on the beaches or retreat to Delhi Ahmabad line mid India is undefendable.
(I am moving the 42nd BG to India to give me 5 full USAAF BG's to help with the defence.)
Andy
Had I realised I would probably have done a Sir Robin and evacced Malaya Army to Burma or Sumatra or somewhere else.
Instead I burned up trasnports reinforcing Singapore and prepping for Johore but his BB's are putting an end to defence of Johore.
I am digging in at the key points in India Chandpur/ Dacca/ Diamond Harbour/ Madras/ etc but I am short of engineers and Infantry
Now itaint over by a long shot but I misread Pauks intention and committment to Malaya and I got a few Bdes retreated a few to many times.
Ah well will make India or Australia fun !!!!
I will be re readign PZB's conquest.
I am still convinced andf always have been that its stop them on the beaches or retreat to Delhi Ahmabad line mid India is undefendable.
(I am moving the 42nd BG to India to give me 5 full USAAF BG's to help with the defence.)
Andy
RE: Operation Alamo
Extremely nice move at Pagan by Pauk dropping Paras on my head.
But the rest of my army got out of the pocket so Im happy
They are beat up and disrupted but If I can get them to India they will recover.
p.s he hit Medan really hard which was annoying
Andy
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/07/42
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TF 20 encounters mine field at Amboina (39,73) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Amboina, 39,73
6 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
MSW Seki Maru #3
MSW Fumi Maru #2
MSW Banshu Maru #8
MSW Asahi Maru, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
PC Takunan Maru #10
PC Sonan Maru #5
PG Shoei Maru
PC Ch 29
AP Tafuku Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire
Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Japanese ground losses:
53 casualties reported
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Naval bombardment of Medan, at 20,45 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 5 destroyed
CW-21B Demon: 4 destroyed
T.IVa: 2 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed
1 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Hiyodori
DD Hasu
DD Tsuga
DD Kuri
DD Asakaze
CL Kuma
CA Maya
Allied ground losses:
295 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 1
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 54
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Naval bombardment of Medan, at 20,45
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 2 destroyed
Martin 139: 1 destroyed
PBY Catalina: 1 destroyed
CW-21B Demon: 1 destroyed
Japanese Ships
DD Kamo
DD Fuyo
DD Minekaze
DD Matsukaze
CL Isuzu
Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 33
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TF 18 troops unloading over beach at Bulla, 40,75
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TF 20 encounters mine field at Amboina (39,73) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Amboina, 39,73
24 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
MSW Seki Maru #3, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Fumi Maru #2, Shell hits 1, on fire
MSW Banshu Maru #8, Shell hits 1, on fire
MSW Asahi Maru, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
PC Sonan Maru #5
PC Takunan Maru #10
PG Shotoku Maru
Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on Changsha , at 47,36
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 34
Ki-48 Lily x 25
Allied aircraft
I-153c x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
I-153c: 1 destroyed
Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 13
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
Ki-21 Sally x 44
Ki-15 Babs x 5
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
I-16c: 6 destroyed
I-153c: 2 destroyed
Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 16
Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 108
Ki-48 Lily x 76
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
Allied ground losses:
213 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 39
Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 3
Port supply hits 6
Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
24 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
12 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
12 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
16 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
19 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
23 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
5 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
10 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52
Japanese aircraft
C5M Babs x 5
Ki-21 Sally x 99
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged
Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 3
Aircraft Attacking:
30 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 38th Chinese Division, at 45,34
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 8
Ki-48 Lily x 4
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
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ASW attack at 48,107
Japanese Ships
SS I-171, hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
DD Balch
DD Fanning
DD Dunlap
DD Ellet
DD Benham
DD Maury
DD McCall
DD Gridley
DD Craven
CA Salt Lake City
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Ground combat at Changsha
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 4054 troops, 134 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 74012 troops, 494 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
347 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at 49,34
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 1642 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 1818 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
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Ground combat at 29,33
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 11888 troops, 63 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 4839 troops, 20 guns, 3 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Manila
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 3068 troops, 108 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 71787 troops, 663 guns, 171 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
432 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
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Ground combat at Johore Bahru
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 28980 troops, 459 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 52395 troops, 344 guns, 23 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
207 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at 30,34
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 1342 troops, 0 guns, 92 vehicles
Defending force 520 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 21 to 1
Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Pagan
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 283 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Pagan base !!!
But the rest of my army got out of the pocket so Im happy
They are beat up and disrupted but If I can get them to India they will recover.
p.s he hit Medan really hard which was annoying
Andy
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/07/42
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TF 20 encounters mine field at Amboina (39,73) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Amboina, 39,73
6 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
MSW Seki Maru #3
MSW Fumi Maru #2
MSW Banshu Maru #8
MSW Asahi Maru, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
PC Takunan Maru #10
PC Sonan Maru #5
PG Shoei Maru
PC Ch 29
AP Tafuku Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire
Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Japanese ground losses:
53 casualties reported
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Naval bombardment of Medan, at 20,45 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 5 destroyed
CW-21B Demon: 4 destroyed
T.IVa: 2 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed
1 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Hiyodori
DD Hasu
DD Tsuga
DD Kuri
DD Asakaze
CL Kuma
CA Maya
Allied ground losses:
295 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 1
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 54
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Naval bombardment of Medan, at 20,45
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 2 destroyed
Martin 139: 1 destroyed
PBY Catalina: 1 destroyed
CW-21B Demon: 1 destroyed
Japanese Ships
DD Kamo
DD Fuyo
DD Minekaze
DD Matsukaze
CL Isuzu
Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 33
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TF 18 troops unloading over beach at Bulla, 40,75
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TF 20 encounters mine field at Amboina (39,73) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!
TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Amboina, 39,73
24 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
MSW Seki Maru #3, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Fumi Maru #2, Shell hits 1, on fire
MSW Banshu Maru #8, Shell hits 1, on fire
MSW Asahi Maru, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
PC Sonan Maru #5
PC Takunan Maru #10
PG Shotoku Maru
Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
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Day Air attack on Changsha , at 47,36
Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 34
Ki-48 Lily x 25
Allied aircraft
I-153c x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
I-153c: 1 destroyed
Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 13
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
Ki-21 Sally x 44
Ki-15 Babs x 5
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
I-16c: 6 destroyed
I-153c: 2 destroyed
Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 16
Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 108
Ki-48 Lily x 76
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
Allied ground losses:
213 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 39
Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 3
Port supply hits 6
Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
24 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
12 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
12 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
16 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
19 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
23 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
5 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
10 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 13000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52
Japanese aircraft
C5M Babs x 5
Ki-21 Sally x 99
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged
Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 3
Aircraft Attacking:
30 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 38th Chinese Division, at 45,34
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 8
Ki-48 Lily x 4
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
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ASW attack at 48,107
Japanese Ships
SS I-171, hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Allied Ships
DD Balch
DD Fanning
DD Dunlap
DD Ellet
DD Benham
DD Maury
DD McCall
DD Gridley
DD Craven
CA Salt Lake City
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Ground combat at Changsha
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 4054 troops, 134 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 74012 troops, 494 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
347 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at 49,34
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 1642 troops, 16 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 1818 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
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Ground combat at 29,33
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 11888 troops, 63 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 4839 troops, 20 guns, 3 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Manila
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 3068 troops, 108 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 71787 troops, 663 guns, 171 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
432 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
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Ground combat at Johore Bahru
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 28980 troops, 459 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 52395 troops, 344 guns, 23 vehicles
Allied ground losses:
207 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at 30,34
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 1342 troops, 0 guns, 92 vehicles
Defending force 520 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 21 to 1
Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
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Ground combat at Pagan
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 283 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Pagan base !!!
RE: Operation Alamo
I am abandoning the river line and moving my Burma force north of the Irrawady ill try to hang on to Mandalay for a while.
I have came to a hard decision I got very luck with the 1:1 attack on Johore this turn as there was no air bmbardment and the naval attack was weak.
I cannot count on this for long so I am withdrawing to Singapore effective now I want to get the army out into a non malarial base with plesntifull supplies while it still has some power of resistance.
Andy
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/08/42
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TF 20 encounters mine field at Amboina (39,73)
TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Amboina, 39,73
Japanese Ships
MSW Seki Maru #3, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Fumi Maru #2
MSW Banshu Maru #8, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Asahi Maru, on fire, heavy damage
PC Ch 30
PC Takunan Maru #10
PG Shotoku Maru
PG Shoei Maru
AK Venice Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PC Sonan Maru #5
PC Ch 29, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Ground combat at Johore Bahru
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 193645 troops, 2092 guns, 164 vehicles
Defending force 54852 troops, 345 guns, 25 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 5)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 4
Japanese ground losses:
3315 casualties reported
Guns lost 54
Vehicles lost 1
Allied ground losses:
2450 casualties reported
Guns lost 35
Vehicles lost 1
I have came to a hard decision I got very luck with the 1:1 attack on Johore this turn as there was no air bmbardment and the naval attack was weak.
I cannot count on this for long so I am withdrawing to Singapore effective now I want to get the army out into a non malarial base with plesntifull supplies while it still has some power of resistance.
Andy
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/08/42
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TF 20 encounters mine field at Amboina (39,73)
TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Amboina, 39,73
Japanese Ships
MSW Seki Maru #3, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Fumi Maru #2
MSW Banshu Maru #8, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Asahi Maru, on fire, heavy damage
PC Ch 30
PC Takunan Maru #10
PG Shotoku Maru
PG Shoei Maru
AK Venice Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PC Sonan Maru #5
PC Ch 29, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Ground combat at Johore Bahru
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 193645 troops, 2092 guns, 164 vehicles
Defending force 54852 troops, 345 guns, 25 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 5)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 4
Japanese ground losses:
3315 casualties reported
Guns lost 54
Vehicles lost 1
Allied ground losses:
2450 casualties reported
Guns lost 35
Vehicles lost 1
Banda Sea
Here is a summary of the position in the Banda Sea.
To date my defence has been based on fleet in being detterant and he did back off originally however he looks to be coming in force now and my problem is I dont know where KB is.
I will send Force Z to fuel at Kendari and then pull them back to Koepang and will skirmish with my CL led Sqns
Andy

To date my defence has been based on fleet in being detterant and he did back off originally however he looks to be coming in force now and my problem is I dont know where KB is.
I will send Force Z to fuel at Kendari and then pull them back to Koepang and will skirmish with my CL led Sqns
Andy

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RE: Banda Sea
I have been re working Australia Defences
North Austalia
Derby has the Barisen Regt (50%) and 2 BF's
Darwin - Wyndham has 1 CD, 3 BF (1 Dutch), PAF Aviation (about 5%), and the Darwin Defence Bde
On the rails heading to the North we have 3rd Aus Bde, 4th Aus Div, 5th RAA CD and 6th Cav Bde.
West Australia
1 BF, 2 CD, 13th Inf Bde.
Now I have 3rd Aus Div and 3rd Arm Regt are heading to Perth when they get there I will detach one CD unit and the 13th Inf Bde to cover Derby
The rest of the Australian Army is concentrating at Charter Towers or Sydney roughly 50:50
These are temp deployments until I know what I get from DEI and PI to help.
North Austalia
Derby has the Barisen Regt (50%) and 2 BF's
Darwin - Wyndham has 1 CD, 3 BF (1 Dutch), PAF Aviation (about 5%), and the Darwin Defence Bde
On the rails heading to the North we have 3rd Aus Bde, 4th Aus Div, 5th RAA CD and 6th Cav Bde.
West Australia
1 BF, 2 CD, 13th Inf Bde.
Now I have 3rd Aus Div and 3rd Arm Regt are heading to Perth when they get there I will detach one CD unit and the 13th Inf Bde to cover Derby
The rest of the Australian Army is concentrating at Charter Towers or Sydney roughly 50:50
These are temp deployments until I know what I get from DEI and PI to help.
VICTORY AT SEA.......FORCE Z STRIKES BACK
These are the turns that allies live for in the early game....
Force catches a light surface TF near Kendari (ill need to edit my previous post to make it look like I meant it !!!!....no no Force Z wasnt just going to refuel it was really out to ambush IJN TF's.......)
2 Rounds of Combat was a little worried by the two hits on POW but she is only 15 sys damage and can make 19 knots.
Houston may sink not sure 69 sys and float
But I sank a CL and about 5 DD's maybe 6 so thats a real result and has to set his timetable back for Kendari !!!!
In other news my LRCAP shot down numerous transports over Pagan a little late but better late than never !!!
Also I am withdrawing to Singapore Johore is undefendable in the face of naval bombardments.
But overall a morale lifting victory at sea !!!!
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/09/42
Night Time Surface Combat, near Kendari at 33,71
Japanese Ships
CL Nagara, Shell hits 1
DD Yukikaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Umikaze, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
DD Suzukaze
DD Shiokaze
Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales
BB Revenge, Shell hits 1
BC Repulse
CA Houston, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Canberra
CA Cornwall
CA Exeter
CL Perth, Shell hits 1
CL Enterprise
CL Durban
CL Glasgow
CL Boise
CLAA Columbo
DD Vampire
DD Vendetta
DD Scout
DD Tenedos
DD Electra
DD Express
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Kendari at 33,71
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed
Japanese Ships
CL Nagara, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Yukikaze, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yamakaze, Shell hits 5, on fire
DD Kawakaze, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Umikaze, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
DD Suzukaze, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Shiokaze, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
BB Revenge, Shell hits 2
BC Repulse, Shell hits 3
CA Houston, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA Canberra
CA Cornwall, Shell hits 2
CA Exeter
CL Perth
CL Enterprise
CL Durban
CL Glasgow
CL Boise
CLAA Columbo, Shell hits 1
DD Vampire
DD Vendetta
DD Scout
DD Tenedos
DD Electra, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Express
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Ground combat at Changsha
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 230980 troops, 2859 guns, 42 vehicles
Defending force 77166 troops, 528 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3
Japanese ground losses:
5119 casualties reported
Guns lost 164
Vehicles lost 6
Allied ground losses:
3844 casualties reported
Guns lost 80
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Ground combat at 49,34
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 1610 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 1778 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1
Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Force catches a light surface TF near Kendari (ill need to edit my previous post to make it look like I meant it !!!!....no no Force Z wasnt just going to refuel it was really out to ambush IJN TF's.......)
2 Rounds of Combat was a little worried by the two hits on POW but she is only 15 sys damage and can make 19 knots.
Houston may sink not sure 69 sys and float
But I sank a CL and about 5 DD's maybe 6 so thats a real result and has to set his timetable back for Kendari !!!!
In other news my LRCAP shot down numerous transports over Pagan a little late but better late than never !!!
Also I am withdrawing to Singapore Johore is undefendable in the face of naval bombardments.
But overall a morale lifting victory at sea !!!!
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/09/42
Night Time Surface Combat, near Kendari at 33,71
Japanese Ships
CL Nagara, Shell hits 1
DD Yukikaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yamakaze
DD Kawakaze, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Umikaze, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
DD Suzukaze
DD Shiokaze
Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales
BB Revenge, Shell hits 1
BC Repulse
CA Houston, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Canberra
CA Cornwall
CA Exeter
CL Perth, Shell hits 1
CL Enterprise
CL Durban
CL Glasgow
CL Boise
CLAA Columbo
DD Vampire
DD Vendetta
DD Scout
DD Tenedos
DD Electra
DD Express
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Kendari at 33,71
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed
Japanese Ships
CL Nagara, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Yukikaze, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yamakaze, Shell hits 5, on fire
DD Kawakaze, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Umikaze, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
DD Suzukaze, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Shiokaze, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
BB Revenge, Shell hits 2
BC Repulse, Shell hits 3
CA Houston, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA Canberra
CA Cornwall, Shell hits 2
CA Exeter
CL Perth
CL Enterprise
CL Durban
CL Glasgow
CL Boise
CLAA Columbo, Shell hits 1
DD Vampire
DD Vendetta
DD Scout
DD Tenedos
DD Electra, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Express
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Ground combat at Changsha
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 230980 troops, 2859 guns, 42 vehicles
Defending force 77166 troops, 528 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 3
Japanese ground losses:
5119 casualties reported
Guns lost 164
Vehicles lost 6
Allied ground losses:
3844 casualties reported
Guns lost 80
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Ground combat at 49,34
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 1610 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles
Defending force 1778 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles
Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1
Allied ground losses:
2 casualties reported
RE: VICTORY AT SEA.......FORCE Z STRIKES BACK
Force Z's condition my only worry is the loss of Houston taking me below 4,500 AA rating


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RE: VICTORY AT SEA.......FORCE Z STRIKES BACK
A final little titbit of info
Before that Battle night xp
POW 66
Revenge 79
Repulse 71
Canberra 40
Houston 41
Perth 36
Boise 41
After the battle night xp
POW 68
Revenge 81
Repulse 71
Canberra 57 [:D]
Houston 57 [:D]
Perth 55 [:D]
Boise 49 [:D]
The rest of the RN ships hardly moved but 10 - 20 points per Aussie and US ship is not to be sneezed at as it brings them that little bit closer to RN experience levels !!!!
Before that Battle night xp
POW 66
Revenge 79
Repulse 71
Canberra 40
Houston 41
Perth 36
Boise 41
After the battle night xp
POW 68
Revenge 81
Repulse 71
Canberra 57 [:D]
Houston 57 [:D]
Perth 55 [:D]
Boise 49 [:D]
The rest of the RN ships hardly moved but 10 - 20 points per Aussie and US ship is not to be sneezed at as it brings them that little bit closer to RN experience levels !!!!
RE: VICTORY AT SEA.......FORCE Z STRIKES BACK
WOW, I never noticed the effect of one night engagement! [X(]
Very interesting, thanks Andy.
Very interesting, thanks Andy.
Nec recisa recedit
RE: VICTORY AT SEA.......FORCE Z STRIKES BACK
Yea, surface combat gives you a nice bunch of exp when it's intensive and you sink a bunch of ships. Musashi was 65/71 before the Koepang battles, and was 83/85 on the day before she was sunk. That was two or three nights of surface battles in a row. [:D]
But something tells me that you shouldn't push your luck with the BB's from now on, pauk managed to slow your big guns down, and imho they should be pulled back and only your fast cruiser forces should stay to harass, losing them wouldn't be such a pain as would be the loss of PoW or heavy damage to it, which would put it out of action for a long time.
But something tells me that you shouldn't push your luck with the BB's from now on, pauk managed to slow your big guns down, and imho they should be pulled back and only your fast cruiser forces should stay to harass, losing them wouldn't be such a pain as would be the loss of PoW or heavy damage to it, which would put it out of action for a long time.
Surface combat TF fanboy


