Bill (Bwheatley) Vs Bill (Gen Billy) to the death

[JagdFlanker]

you might be able to go around any of his blockading subs and/or ships by having a line of supply from japan to wake isl., then a line of supply from there to either french frigate shoals or johnson isl., and then another very short and heavily escorted line of supply from there to hawaii. he might not expect you to come in straight from the west or southwest and you might be able to get away from taking some casualties from the first 2 lines of supply until he figures out what yer doing. with your losses i would assume you are in a ship-conservation phase, and this might help!

[bwheatley]

Yea i've been setting up CS lines from TOKYO to kwajelin to johnson to lahaina. I dont have too many escort ships but merchant ships is not my major shortage. I'm going to have

to figure out a way to take out his navy around pearl. I think i've decided that with my lack of naval forces to force him out i will have to rely on fast transport groups to get the troops onto pearl.

[bwheatley]

Finally some payback on the open seas.

I also reduced the forts on PH back down to 4 again. If i can just keep this steady and get the 25 destroyers in place in lahania i can fast transport troops in!

[bwheatley]

Siege of Pearl


Finally caught an enemy sub

Slow going so far just back and forth attacking


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/25/22

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Sub attack near Lahaina at 113,69

Japanese Ships
MSW Natsushima Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS R-25

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Sub attack near Lahaina at 113,69

Japanese Ships
MSW Natsushima Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS R-25


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Ground combat at Pearl Harbor

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 55135 troops, 41 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 44486 troops, 374 guns, 57 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 4)


Japanese ground losses:
1606 casualties reported
Guns lost 17

Allied ground losses:
464 casualties reported
Guns lost 7


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Ground combat at 40,61

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 25755 troops, 101 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 3134 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
75 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1816 troops, 59 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 49193 troops, 275 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Pearl Harbor

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 30973 troops, 339 guns, 15 vehicles

Defending force 53121 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles



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Ground combat at Manila

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 25648 troops, 235 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 104345 troops, 357 guns, 49 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

[bwheatley]

Took Pearl down to Lvl 3 forts HOORAY! But my fast transport force was denied but they did seem to put a wallop on the enemy force.

Good news tomorrow an AD will disband at lahani so all those pretty DD's can start to reload torps .

Also 25 new DDs docking soon and As is docked!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/30/22

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TF 2 encounters mine field at Pearl Harbor (112,68)

Japanese Ships
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Hayakaze

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ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
DD Amatsukaze
DD Hakaze
DD Susuki
DD Sakura
DD Hayakaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Nashi

Allied Ships
SS S-32

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ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
DD Amatsukaze
DD Hakaze
DD Susuki
DD Sakura
DD Hayakaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Nashi

Allied Ships
SS S-32

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
CL Tatsuta, Shell hits 1
CL Kuma, Shell hits 1
DD Amatsukaze, Shell hits 1
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Hakaze, Shell hits 1
DD Nashi, Shell hits 2
DD Susuki
DD Sakura
DD Hayakaze
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Shirayuki

Allied Ships
CA Missoula, Shell hits 2
CA Brooklyn, Shell hits 3
CL Birmingham, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Salem, heavy damage
CL Aurora, Shell hits 3
DD Howard, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Stansbury, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
DD Bulmer, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Turner, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Gillis, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Naval bombardment of Pearl Harbor, at 112,68

Allied Ships
BB Idaho, heavy damage
BB Tennessee, heavy damage
BB California
BB Oklahoma, heavy damage
BB Nevada

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported

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Naval bombardment of Pearl Harbor, at 112,68

Allied Ships
BB Idaho, heavy damage
BB Tennessee, heavy damage
BB California
BB Oklahoma, heavy damage
BB Nevada

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported

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Naval bombardment of Pearl Harbor, at 112,68

Allied Ships
BB Idaho, heavy damage
BB Tennessee, heavy damage
BB California
BB Oklahoma, heavy damage
BB Nevada

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported

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Naval bombardment of Pearl Harbor, at 112,68

Allied Ships
BB Georgia, heavy damage
BB Connecticut, heavy damage
BB New York, heavy damage
BB Mississippi
BB New Mexico, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
101 casualties reported

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Naval bombardment of Pearl Harbor, at 112,68

Allied Ships
CA Seattle
BB Oregon, heavy damage
BB Rhode Island, heavy damage
BB Nebraska, heavy damage
BB Pennsylvania, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Naval bombardment of Pearl Harbor, at 112,68

Allied Ships
CA Seattle
BB Oregon, heavy damage
BB Rhode Island, heavy damage
BB Nebraska, heavy damage
BB Pennsylvania, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Day Air attack on Imperial Guards Division, at 112,68


Allied aircraft
Martin NBS-1 x 4


Allied aircraft losses
Martin NBS-1: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Martin NBS-1 bombing at 7000 feet
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Day Air attack on Imperial Guards Division, at 112,68


Allied aircraft
Martin NBS-1 x 4


Allied aircraft losses
Martin NBS-1: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Martin NBS-1 bombing at 7000 feet
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Sub attack at 113,67

Japanese Ships
AK Kansai Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS S-34

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Naval bombardment of Pearl Harbor, at 112,68

Allied Ships
BB Georgia, heavy damage
BB Connecticut, heavy damage
BB New York, heavy damage
BB Mississippi
BB New Mexico, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Pearl Harbor

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 54066 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 67836 troops, 443 guns, 62 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)


Japanese ground losses:
1597 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Allied ground losses:
174 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

Ground combat at Pearl Harbor

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 54066 troops, 14 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 67836 troops, 443 guns, 62 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)


Japanese ground losses:
1597 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Allied ground losses:
174 casualties reported
Guns lost 10


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Ground combat at 40,61

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26435 troops, 105 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 2516 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 16 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
49 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
78 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1956 troops, 69 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 51150 troops, 297 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1956 troops, 69 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 51150 troops, 297 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Pearl Harbor

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 41914 troops, 386 guns, 20 vehicles

Defending force 51667 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Manila

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 26009 troops, 249 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 90024 troops, 448 guns, 43 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
154 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 3

Ground combat at Manila

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 26009 troops, 249 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 90024 troops, 448 guns, 43 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
154 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 3

[bwheatley]

Well another attaempt at my mini DD fleet dropping off 3800 troops in PH failed.

But i did manage to sink a DM And i hit a sub for 3 hits! YAY!~

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/01/22

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Coastal Guns at Pearl Harbor, 112,68, firing at TF 27
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TF 27 encounters mine field at Pearl Harbor (112,68)

TF 27 troops unloading over beach at Pearl Harbor, 112,68


Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported

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Sub attack at 109,69

Japanese Ships
TK Toa Maru
DD Isokaze

Allied Ships
SS R-10

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ASW attack at 109,69

Japanese Ships
DD Kagero
DD Tsuga
DD Yukaze
DD Kaede
DD Sumire
DD Kuri
DD Kaki
DD Take
DD Kuwa
DD Tsubaki
DD Nara
DD Enoki
DD Tachikaze
DD Hokaze
DD Tanikaze

Allied Ships
SS R-10, hits 2

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ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
DD Amatsukaze
DD Hakaze
CL Kuma
DD Shirayuki
DD Susuki
DD Sakura
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Nashi

Allied Ships
SS R-4

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
CL Tatsuta, Shell hits 1
CL Kuma, Shell hits 1
DD Amatsukaze, Shell hits 2
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Hakaze, Shell hits 1
DD Nashi
DD Susuki
DD Sakura
DD Hayakaze
DD Shiratsuyu, Shell hits 1
DD Shirayuki

Allied Ships
CA Missoula, Shell hits 5
CA Brooklyn, Shell hits 1
CL Salem, Shell hits 1, heavy damage
CL Chicago, Shell hits 4, heavy damage
CL Aurora, Shell hits 2
DM Burns, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage *SINKS*
DD Howard
DD Turner, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Young, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Zeilin, Shell hits 4
DD Trever, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Wasmuth, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Patrician, Shell hits 3, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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Sub attack near Lokai at 112,69

Japanese Ships
DD Susuki
DD Amatsukaze
DD Hakaze
DD Sakura
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Nashi

Allied Ships
SS H-7, hits 3

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ASW attack at 111,69

Japanese Ships
DD Isokaze

Allied Ships
SS R-9

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ASW attack at 111,69

Japanese Ships
DD Isokaze

Allied Ships
SS R-9

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Sub attack at 111,69

Japanese Ships
TK Terukawa Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Isokaze

Allied Ships
SS R-9

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Day Air attack on Imperial Guards Division, at 112,68


Allied aircraft
Martin NBS-1 x 6


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin NBS-1 bombing at 7000 feet
3 x Martin NBS-1 bombing at 7000 feet

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Ground combat at 40,61

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26913 troops, 104 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 2390 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 41 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
1029 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1976 troops, 69 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 52131 troops, 300 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
51 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Pearl Harbor

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 54939 troops, 431 guns, 23 vehicles

Defending force 53530 troops, 28 guns, 0 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
421 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


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Ground combat at Manila

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 26091 troops, 253 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 91896 troops, 473 guns, 43 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
116 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

[New York Jets]

ORIGINAL: bwheatley

Along with any requests i will need help from you guys on an Exit strategy. no i'm not talking about IRAQ [:-]. I need a plan to extract my units from PH without killing off the rest of my fleet. I don't think there is anyway i can get PH now unless i can get a few more divisions over it but my fleet is already in ruins. Basically when you look at a japanese ship funny it starts to sink anyway.

So if i fast transport in at night with enemy ships is there a chance i can sneak by without getting attacked or is it certain? is the best way to sneak out cadres via sub then?

ANy other plans? Reinforce the other Hawaiian islands and wait? Ideas boys i need ideas.

I don't own the game but will, soon. My observation of your AAR tells me that if you want to win the game think more strategically. You committed too much, too early, in the wrong place.

Just my opinion.

After 30+ years of wargaming.

[bwheatley]

well i'm sure thats right becuase i had not played the game and it was a wing and a prayer . Now some advice on fixing it!!

Well i've decided the war is going to be won or lost at Pearl. I offloaded the 18th division at PH and my ships got slaughtered i lost 9500 men!!! jesus...

Well that division was slaughtered on the beach. But i will not give up pearl. I did not march all the way across the pacific just to be denied. This will be my guadelcanal...i will take pearl god as my witness i will take pearl. if i can kill those units off on pearl i will make alot of points back to counter my lost fleet. There are 4 more years left in this war and while i got off on a shitty start if i start putting my new experience to use i could make this more trying. If i can hold the hawaainn islands with enough AP and fuel & supplies i will have a strong point that will not be easily taken down. If i can kick him off i have at least a year before he can try to take back PH. In that time i can get the islands built up to level 9 forts get some fierce coastal defense guns up and working. And i can make him pay just as dearly to take PH back.

[bwheatley]

This is by far one of the most depressing turns...my transport fleets were annhilated. But i sunk 4 US bb's and 14 DD's...

Though i lost alot of my other BB's but in better news 2 BC's and 2 16 inch bb's disbanded to begin repairs... so all is not lost. I just have to be more frugal in the future but PH will fall.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/07/22

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Coastal Guns at Pearl Harbor, 112,68, firing at TF 82
TF 82 troops unloading over beach at Pearl Harbor, 112,68


1923 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Astuga Maru, Shell hits 19, on fire, heavy damage
AP Biyo Maru, Shell hits 71, on fire, heavy damage
AP Hakozake Maru, Shell hits 23, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kaiko Maru, Shell hits 42, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kaito Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kiyoshima Maru

Japanese ground losses:
257 casualties reported

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Sub attack near Lokai at 112,69

Japanese Ships
SS No. 43

Allied Ships
BB Tennessee, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Aaron Ward
DD Buchanan, heavy damage

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Sub attack near Lokai at 112,69

Japanese Ships
SS No. 43

Allied Ships
BB Tennessee, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Aaron Ward
DD Buchanan, heavy damage

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Sub attack near Lokai at 112,69

Japanese Ships
SS No. 43

Allied Ships
BB New York, heavy damage
DD Boggs
DD Philip, heavy damage
DD Wickes, heavy damage

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Sub attack near Lokai at 112,69

Japanese Ships
SS No. 43

Allied Ships
BB New York, heavy damage
DD Boggs
DD Philip, heavy damage
DD Wickes, heavy damage

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ASW attack near Lokai at 112,69

Japanese Ships
SS No. 43, hits 3

Allied Ships
DD Shirk
DD Robert Smith, heavy damage
DD Percival, heavy damage
DD Mullany, heavy damage
DD Kennedy
DD J. F. Burnes
DD Chase
DD Perry
DD Corry
DD Gillis, heavy damage

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Naval bombardment of Pearl Harbor, at 112,68 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

150 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
CL Tenryu, Shell hits 1
CL Chikuma, Shell hits 6
CL Yahagi, Shell hits 35, on fire


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported

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Sub attack near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
AP Kamikaze Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS H-6

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Coastal Guns at Pearl Harbor, 112,68, firing at TF 82
TF 82 troops unloading over beach at Pearl Harbor, 112,68


538 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Anrugu Maru, Shell hits 25, on fire, heavy damage

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Sub attack near Lahaina at 113,69

Japanese Ships
CL Yahagi, on fire

Allied Ships
SS H-5

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Sub attack near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
CL Tenryu
DD Okikaze
DD Minekaze
DD Hamakaze
DD Kawakaze

Allied Ships
SS H-6

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Sub attack near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
AP Kurohime Maru, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS H-6

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Sub attack near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
SS No. 29

Allied Ships
DD Selfridge
DD Patriot
DD Lichfield
DD Moody
DD McLanahan
DD Bailey
DD Woodbury
DD Fuller
DD Farquhar

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ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
SS No. 29, hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Sumner, heavy damage
DD Farenholt
DD MacDonough
DD Hull, heavy damage
DD Chauncey
DD Doyen
DD Sinclair
DD Meade
DD Tingey, heavy damage

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ASW attack near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
SS No. 31

Allied Ships
DD Patrician
DD Wasmuth, heavy damage
DD Zeilin
DD Young
DD Yarborough
DD Thompson
DD Stoddert
DD Somers
DD Sloat

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Day Air attack on 14th Division, at 112,68


Allied aircraft
Martin NBS-1 x 3


Allied aircraft losses
Martin NBS-1: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin NBS-1 bombing at 7000 feet
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso, Shell hits 3
CA Kurama, Shell hits 33, and is sunk
BB Mikasa, Shell hits 18, on fire
BB Fuji, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
BB Mishishima, Shell hits 2
BB Suwo, Shell hits 9, on fire
CA Adzuma
DD Hagi, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Sakura, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hayakaze, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
DD Shiratsuyu, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
DD Shirayuki, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
BB Nevada, Shell hits 48, and is sunk
BB New Mexico, Shell hits 14, on fire, heavy damage
BB Mississippi, Shell hits 32, on fire
BB New York, Shell hits 30, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Texas, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
CL Aurora, Shell hits 38, on fire
DD Wickes, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
DD Philip, Shell hits 33, and is sunk
DD Radford, Shell hits 31, and is sunk
DD Boggs, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso, Shell hits 3
CA Kurama, Shell hits 33, and is sunk
BB Mikasa, Shell hits 18, on fire
BB Fuji, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
BB Mishishima, Shell hits 2
BB Suwo, Shell hits 9, on fire
CA Adzuma
DD Hagi, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Sakura, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hayakaze, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
DD Shiratsuyu, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
DD Shirayuki, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
BB Nevada, Shell hits 48, and is sunk
BB New Mexico, Shell hits 14, on fire, heavy damage
BB Mississippi, Shell hits 32, on fire
BB New York, Shell hits 30, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Texas, Shell hits 14, and is sunk
CL Aurora, Shell hits 38, on fire
DD Wickes, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
DD Philip, Shell hits 33, and is sunk
DD Radford, Shell hits 31, and is sunk
DD Boggs, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
CL Tenryu, Shell hits 15, on fire
DD Hamakaze, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Kawakaze, Shell hits 2
DD Minekaze, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Okikaze, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
DD Minazuki, Shell hits 7, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Connecticut, Shell hits 5, heavy damage
BB Georgia, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
BB Nebraska, Shell hits 9, heavy damage
BB Rhode Island, Shell hits 6, heavy damage
BB Oregon, Shell hits 2, heavy damage
CA Missoula, Shell hits 2
CA Seattle, Shell hits 8
CA Brooklyn, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Kennison, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Claxton, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
CL Tenryu, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hamakaze, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Kawakaze, Shell hits 2
DD Minekaze, Shell hits 17, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Crane, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
DD Yarnall
DD Greer, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Elliot, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Roper, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Thatcher, Shell hits 1
DD Walker
DD Crosby
DD Mackenzie
DD O'Bannon, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
CL Tenryu, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Hamakaze, Shell hits 13, on fire, heavy damage
DD Kawakaze, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Minekaze, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Crane, and is sunk
DD Yarnall, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Greer, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
DD Elliot, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Roper, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Thatcher, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Walker
DD Crosby, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
DD Mackenzie, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD O'Bannon, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
DD Hamakaze, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
DD Kawakaze, Shell hits 20, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD McLanahan
DD Bailey
DD Swasey
DD Moody
DD Farquhar
DD Fuller
DD Selfridge
DD Woodbury
DD Lichfield
DD Patriot

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso, Shell hits 9, on fire
BB Mikasa, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB Fuji, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
BB Mishishima, Shell hits 15, on fire, heavy damage
BB Suwo, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
CA Adzuma, Shell hits 11, on fire
DD Hagi, Shell hits 21, and is sunk
DD Sakura, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
DD Shirayuki, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD McLanahan, Shell hits 30, and is sunk
DD Bailey, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
DD Swasey, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
DD Moody, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
DD Farquhar, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
DD Fuller, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
DD Selfridge, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
DD Woodbury, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
DD Lichfield, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
DD Patriot, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
BB Mikasa, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
BB Mishishima, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB Suwo, and is sunk
CA Adzuma, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Howard, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
DD Stansbury, heavy damage
DD Bulmer, heavy damage
DD Turner, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Delphy
DD McDermut, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Edwards, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Greene
DD Thornton, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
DD Morris

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso, Shell hits 14, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
BB Mishishima, and is sunk
CA Adzuma, Shell hits 13, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Tingey, heavy damage
DD Meade
DD Sinclair
DD McCawley
DD Doyen, Shell hits 2
DD Chauncey, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Hull, heavy damage
DD MacDonough, Shell hits 1
DD Farenholt
DD Sumner, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
CA Adzuma, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Tingey, heavy damage
DD Meade
DD Sinclair
DD McCawley
DD Doyen
DD Chauncey, on fire
DD Hull, heavy damage
DD MacDonough
DD Farenholt
DD Sumner, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
CA Adzuma, Shell hits 31, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Tingey, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Meade
DD Sinclair
DD McCawley
DD Doyen
DD Chauncey, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hull, heavy damage
DD MacDonough
DD Farenholt
DD Sumner, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
CA Adzuma, Shell hits 39, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Tingey, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Meade
DD Sinclair
DD McCawley
DD Doyen
DD Chauncey, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hull, heavy damage
DD MacDonough
DD Farenholt
DD Sumner, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
AP Arabia Maru, Shell hits 19, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AP Arizana Maru, Shell hits 36, and is sunk
AP Kaito Maru, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
AP Kamikaze Maru, and is sunk
AP Kanayamasan Maru, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kanko Maru
AP Kashiwa Maru
AP Kasima Maru, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
AP Kasuga Maru #2, and is sunk
AP Kiyoshima Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
AP Koshu Maru #3, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
AP Kurohime Maru, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AP Sanura Maru, Shell hits 13, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Gillis, heavy damage
DD Corry
DD Perry
DD Chase
DD J. F. Burnes
DD Kennedy
DD Mullany, heavy damage
DD Percival, heavy damage
DD Robert Smith, heavy damage
DD Shirk

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Sub attack near Pearl Harbor at 112,68

Japanese Ships
SS No. 31

Allied Ships
CL Aurora, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


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Ground combat at Pearl Harbor

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 31596 troops, 56 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 68640 troops, 465 guns, 72 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
47 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 149340 troops, 555 guns, 46 vehicles

Defending force 53320 troops, 302 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 1)


Japanese ground losses:
6566 casualties reported
Guns lost 92

Allied ground losses:
664 casualties reported
Guns lost 27


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Ground combat at Pearl Harbor

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 52653 troops, 431 guns, 30 vehicles

Defending force 61906 troops, 86 guns, 0 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
833 casualties reported
Guns lost 19


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Ground combat at Manila

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 25728 troops, 240 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 139737 troops, 443 guns, 45 vehicles

[bwheatley]

Well this battle may seem like it has broken my back but i've worked through at least 50 US destroyers thats almost half. While he has BB's if we can just hit and run PH we can still pull this off. Packs of DD's can pop in and hit PH at night and rip him to pieces.

It's caused him to dock his fleet on a number of occasions. We just have to keep it up until we get lucky.

[bwheatley]

In a move that is completely suprising the allies appear to be pulling out of pearl harbor! In this attack round there was only 2 allied units. Shock attacks will begin with all due haste. I will not look a gift horse in the mouth. I was just about to offload 3 divisions and a bde onto pearl but this turn of events has made leaders at IJA HQ Smile.

More to come....

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/13/22

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ASW attack at 112,67

Japanese Ships
SS UB-143 (O7)

Allied Ships
DD Buchanan, heavy damage
DD Zeilin
DD Shirk
DD Chase
DD Perry
DD Thompson
DD Stoddert
DD Somers
DD Robert Smith, heavy damage
DD Percival
DD Mullany, heavy damage
DD Corry
DD Sinclair

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ASW attack at 112,67

Japanese Ships
SS UB-143 (O7), hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Buchanan, heavy damage
DD Zeilin
DD Shirk
DD Chase
DD Perry

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TF 27 troops unloading over beach at Lihu, 110,67


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ASW attack at 111,66

Japanese Ships
AP Azuchi Maru

Allied Ships
SS H-5

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Sub attack at 112,66

Japanese Ships
SS No. 41, hits 2

Allied Ships
AS Beaver, Torpedo hits 1
DD Buchanan, heavy damage
DD Zeilin
DD Shirk
DD Chase
DD Perry
DD Thompson
DD Stoddert
DD Somers
DD Robert Smith, heavy damage
DD Percival
DD Mullany, heavy damage
DD Corry
DD Sinclair

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Sub attack at 112,66

Japanese Ships
SS No. 41, hits 2

Allied Ships
AS Beaver, Torpedo hits 1
DD Buchanan, heavy damage
DD Zeilin
DD Shirk
DD Chase
DD Perry
DD Thompson
DD Stoddert
DD Somers
DD Robert Smith, heavy damage
DD Percival
DD Mullany, heavy damage
DD Corry
DD Sinclair

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Sub attack near Lahaina at 113,69

Japanese Ships
DD Kusunoki
DD Umi
DD Numakaze
DD Yomogi

Allied Ships
SS H-4

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Sub attack at 111,66

Japanese Ships
AP Ayatosan Maru

Allied Ships
SS H-5

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ASW attack at 112,66

Japanese Ships
SS No. 41, hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Zeilin
DD Shirk


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Ground combat at Manila

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 26132 troops, 246 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 145864 troops, 475 guns, 47 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Pearl Harbor

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3800 troops, 76 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 60210 troops, 52 guns, 0 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

[bwheatley]

Well with this turn of events we need to have a planning session. This will bring in everyone else against the Japanse. So Hong Kong and the west is now open. With the major lack of Surface forces we're going to be on a shoe string budget were surface ships are concerned.

The plans i have #1 Move the CD units from Lahaina to pearl get 200+ engineers to PH and start ot build it up
lahania is almost level 5 port
ph is a level 5 port too.
Those 2 bases will make nice strongpoints. Hilo & kona will be built up as well.
I'm doing everything i can to take out the remaining defenders at Manila but if we take pearl then the allies might try to reinforce manila with british troops. I have a few ART troops in Bataan hopefully that will keep them out. I've also put 400+ mines in bataan so any trip to manilla will take some loses but i can't afford to let reinforcements get in.

[bwheatley]

Well PH is firmly under my control i am sending out a few destroyers north and north east to check for his ships i want to try to sink a few. My sub screen has been ordered to fan out to hopefully spot and sink some of them but i'm not terribly hopeful.

[bwheatley]

Well 5 DD's tracked down the fleeing american fleet. But engage in the day time instead of night

So 2 DD's are firmly under my control.

Is anyone still reading this thing or should i mothball it ?

Billy has been talking ot me like i had alot of units on pearl and sure i did but they have been so shattered they are all mostly support troops the highest AP of anything on the island is 250
So i lucked out with that bluff. Again i made a mistake and came into pearl before i attacked and got ripped apart again.
Well learning the hard way is better then not ever learning at all right?

I'm sending a couple more divisions and bde to manilla. I have to take it before he reinforces it. I am expecting an attack back on PI eventually i have to get this city squared away and then i can start the business of organizing a defense. At least having interior lines of communication will hopefully keep my fleet safe. It would be hard for an allied fleet to move through my terrority. I'm going to recall all subs soon and start to setup picket lines throughout the pacific to get an idea of when the enemy is coming.


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/15/22

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Day Time Surface Combat at 113,62

Japanese Ships
DD Tachikaze, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Tsubaki
DD Nashi, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Susuki
DD Sumire, Shell hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
BB Oklahoma, Shell hits 2, heavy damage
BB Tennessee, heavy damage
BB Mississippi, Shell hits 1
BB Connecticut, Shell hits 1, heavy damage
BB Georgia, Shell hits 1, heavy damage
BB Nebraska, heavy damage
CA Missoula
CA Seattle
CA Brooklyn
CL Birmingham, heavy damage
CL Salem, heavy damage
CL Chicago, heavy damage
AP President Coolidge
AP President Fillmore
AP President Garfield
AP W.A. Holbrook
AP Republic
AP President Polk
AP President Monroe
AP Chaumont
AP St. Mihel
AP Henderson
AP West Point
AK Aldebaran
AK Arctic
AK Bridge
AK Antares
AK Mercury
AK Boreas
AK Castor
AK Coloradan
AK Columbian
AK Hawaiian
AK Kentuckian
AK Mexican
AK Minnesotan
AK Nebraskan
AK Ohioan
AK Panaman
AK Pennsylvanian
AK Tennessean
AK Utahan
AK Trento
AK Charles H Cramp
AK Henry S Grove
AK Pacific
AK Chatanooga City
AK Chickasaw City
AK Ensley City
AK Knoxville City
AK Tuscaloosa City
AK Steel Exporter
AK Steel Navigator
AK Steel Ranger
AK Steel Seafarer


Allied ground losses:
49 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 115364 troops, 410 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 51957 troops, 284 guns, 0 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
214 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Manila

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 26034 troops, 247 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 135592 troops, 411 guns, 47 vehicles


Japanese ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

[jwilkerson]

Is anyone still reading this thing or should i mothball it ?

If the thread hit count is at least about 10 times that of the post count, that should mean people other than you are reading it - so it is worth continuing to write it !!

[Helpless]

I think it should get sticked as the first and probably the last WPO-ARR with Japanese "Banzai piplines" [:D]

[bwheatley]

Well i think it might be just because the uber defeneses PH gets. I can still see it happening though but first Naval superiority has to be in place. Because you'll have to shell the shit outta that island to knock out those 4-5 new forts that will be in new version.

Though i am pretty sure it would still be doable. But you would have to really smash up the fleet good and hard. But first taking lahaina and building it up for a few months to get it to lvl 6 port with an AR so you can have some hope of your ships being saved. But i think all that would pretty much mean that no jap player is ever going to have the balls or the desire to try it again. The only reason i tried it is because when i first came to the forums i said...

Why don't people invade the US..why dont people land at Singapore directly ETC. And now i know. Also i was a newbie to WPO PBEM so i figured what the hell lets learn on the fly. If the unit replacements were better this attack would have turned out a little better becuase i landed 150k of supplies on PH within 2 days . I had a pretty big armada to land everything.

I think i'm in some tricky situations because of lack of sea power but hopefully we can overcome.

First thing is to kill those bastards off at manilla i'm throwing about 1000 more AP at manilla with a few more base forces to try and get enough engineers to really just kill them. I need to secure PI because i expect a counterstroke within a couple months.

I am moving the new 16 inch BB that i just got to Pescadores with a few DD's in order to have some sort of BB around. If he comes with a DD strike or something i might be able to hit him with the heavy and do some harm. Once my surface forces at PH heal up enough i'll get them into dry dock. I will be able to field 10 BB/BC if all repairs go well.

Thats enough for 2 good fleets if used properly> hopefully i have learned my lesson about piecemeal engagements.

The poor jap soldiers got sent into the grinder by me. But they listened.
I'm confident. Billy can move a few divisions from india but they start with a good deal of disable meants and are only really 100-150 AP. If i can get the PI dug in i want to try to hold all the outer cities with a stronger reaction force in Clark that will be able to react and counter an invasion. I dont need to be strong everywhere i just have to think of a good depth in defense. Without air power to blow everyone to pieces ground combat is really a slugging match when there are no BB's to provide protection. I am hoping i will be notified of any attempt to reinforce manilla because i have a few base forces with some 6inch DP guns at bataan.

I know they won't do much to a war ship but hopefully they will tear up any AK/AP coming through.

What does everyone think? What is the best strategy to defend PI?

I guess in order to do that you will need some screenies of units etc? I will get you guys screens later of my units and what not. I could use some defense my ideas of defense are based from just standard thinking. i dont know how well they will work with witp/wpo any ideas??


Thanks loyal readers You make it more fun. Hopefully some of you cheered when i finally sunk the Uss Arizona and the few other BB's. Hopefully you cheered when i captured PH.

That just goes to show you that PysOps is good . I was totally bluffing i really didn't think i would take PH after those CD guns went into place. Taking 9k & 20K casulaties from a landing is just unacceptable in a model where there are only enough replacements to rebuild 4 divisions throughout the course of the entire war .

So you have to use your forces more wisely. But my bs'ing worked and got him to think i had more then i did. I didn't tell you guys this but i also split up convoys into smaller convoys and send them via different routes i wanted him to think i was sending in alot of reinforcements. He was telling me he thought i had lahaina full of troops In reality i only had about 700 AP there :> I will probably lose this war but i am having fun and learning. And i'm having fun with my 7 ML's Mining the shit outta midway upto 1300 mines already. And mining bataan up to almost 1100 mines already as well! I want him to pay through the nose to try to reinforce manilla.

Though i just think if he tries to get troops to manilla it will be by landing elsewhere. IF you were an allied player what city woul dyou land at?

[JagdFlanker]

mothball? are you mad?!? this is the ONLY AAR i read! nothing but pure action! [&o]

woo hoo!

(alright i lied - i read the others too!)

[bwheatley]

LOL it is definately nice to hear compliments though

Well i think the action will come to a close until billy decides to counter strike. I am running about 8 subs to Mare island they will have a few turns to loiter HOPEFully they can plug a few of his transports on the way. Surface action wont work both my DD & my CL forces were repulsed with me taking more damage then i was getting because of those BB escorts.

I am rushing 3 BDE's 3 more DIV and a few more divs from Davao to Naga to finish off manilla before it can be reinforced. This is a major PITA. I have moved some of the shattered small units to the outter citys on luzon to at least give me a turn of defense. each unit has some engineers so they can slowly build up too.

Question. What is the best defense strategy? Weak city defense with a strong reaction force in Clark/Manilla?

Ideas...

[bwheatley]

He sunk my damned AR F;lajsdlkasdl;sdflsfdlkfslk i wante dto help pearl out but oh well i guess. Damnit!

5 torpodoes into the side of the god dam ned thing in 2 turns 2 last turn 3 this turn that seems like fucking nuts i had 3 DD escorts too .

But i did an attack on Manilla and this time the allied counter bombardment didnt hurt 1 person is that a good sign?? Does that mean his combat troops are almost all dead now?

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/18/22

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TF 46 troops unloading over beach at Lihu, 110,67


Japanese ground losses:
50 casualties reported

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TF 46 troops unloading over beach at Lihu, 110,67


Japanese ground losses:
71 casualties reported

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Sub attack near Niihau at 110,68

Japanese Ships
AR Kwanto Maru, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS S-32

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Sub attack near Lihu at 110,67

Japanese Ships
AP Taigen Maru

Allied Ships
SS R-11


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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 133334 troops, 432 guns, 54 vehicles

Defending force 52572 troops, 305 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)


Japanese ground losses:
3842 casualties reported
Guns lost 35
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
1097 casualties reported
Guns lost 29


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Ground combat at Manila

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 25881 troops, 243 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 128122 troops, 386 guns, 51 vehicles