The best Wargame simulation you ever played.

[acmejeff]

Board Games:

1- SPI's War in the East (The Russo-German Conflict, 1941-1945). The map sheets when put together ended up near 4x5 feet. I attached them to a wall and used colored push pins to mount the counters. Had the look of a real HQs war room map.

2- AH's Empires in Arms. Great game but tough getting enough people to run all the countries for such a long game.

Table Top Game:

1- Flecher Pratt's Naval War Game. Table top is a bit of a misnomer as I ended up using my entire back yard to play this. We used 1/700 scale WW2 ship models to fight out our battles but the game rules cover any period from the Russo-Japan War up to the age of missiles. It did not lend itself well to aircraft so all battles were gun vs gun affairs. Tape measures a must as the players acted as Captain and Gunnery Officer estimating ranges in inches to the target. What fun!

Computer Games:

1- WITP

2- Stars! A space exploration/colonization/war game that allowed up to 8 PBEM players. Micro-management was the key to success which of course lead me to fall in love with WITP!!!

[bradfordkay]

I enjoyed flight sims back in those days. I loved Aces of the Pacific, and was properly enthralled when they finally got Red Baron II to work. I don't know why, but I don't even touch flight sims any more. Maybe it's because the computers required are too expensive for me... or I'm just getting old and slow...

[Cutman]

This is a good thread...

Board Game- Gotta go with ASL. Anyone ever play the whole way through the stalingrad map? Huge... We would play for 12-16 hours and only get thru 4-5 days and then my friends wife would make him clean it up....Never finished, but started at least 10 times.

Computer- Not in any order-
WITP/UV
KP
TOAW
BTR
Harpoon
I have to agree that Morrowind is an incredible RPG!

I was a huge Aces of Pacific player... One time when in Seattle way back around 95 a P-47 air force sqn had there 50th anniversary WWII. There was this place right next door that had an awesome set-up for multiplayer PC games. Fiberwire & flatscreens cockpit type seats.. They had thier anniversary here and 60 of them where playing Aces over Europe (not sure on name) and they loved it! All 50-60 pilots running around talking sh.. again just like the old days. Incredible day! I stayed for hours just listening to there stories..

Cutman

[th_sfr]

Hello Gentlemen
Here is the ghosts of the past of my wargaming pleasure
Tobruk for Amstrad 6128
Battle of Britain (Lucasgames) atari st
Steels Panthers ( I saw the light of God)
Fantasy General
Master of Orion 2

and now
Witp and some hps's panzer campaign (smolensk and sicily)

[Apollo11]

Hi all,

I remember that in early 1980's I almost bought "Sinclair QL" because of one wargame (I believe the first true computer wargame!!!)... I can't remember the name right now but it was WWII western front I think...

In those times (1983/84) when my uncle took Sinclair ZX back to him I bought Commodore 64 and played "Red Storm Rising" to the death (I even modded it - still have documentation of what I did and how I did it!)...

After Commodore 64 I got Atari ST but don't recall any significant wargame on it.

In my PC time (since 1993) I hold with depest respect the three titles from Avalon Hill/Atomic:

Operation Crusader
Stalingrad
D-Day: America Invades

Until TOAW (and UV/WitP) those 3 above were the best wargames I ever had (heck even nowadays some features they had are not available in any modern HEX based game - they were so much ahead of time <SIGH>)...


Leo "Apollo11"

[Black Mamba 1942]

Sid Meirs "Alpha Centauri". Does that count as a wargame?[:D]

Economic, political, and combat all included in the game design.[;)]

[Demosthenes]

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Age of Sail II

This one is one some people's Best list, while other people have it on their Worst list.

I'd have to put it on the Worst, as i couldn't get the thing to run...[:(]

That would be a very valid reason to put it on your 'worst' list!
(suggestion: upgrade)

[ilovestrategy]

1996 Tie Fighter, not modern day but had really good, responsive controls to the joystick.

[TAIL GUNNER]

With all this talk of EAW I'm jonesing to dig it and my old Wingman Warrior joystick out of the storage shed....

see ya![8D]

[Nikademus]

One of these days i'm going to get in some EAW time not to mention IL-2. Two top sims......no time to play. Sad.

[TAIL GUNNER]

finding the damn 1.2 patch is proving to be a bitch and a half though...


Everyone wants you to register to their site now!!!!!!!![:@]


either that or links are long dead.......

(EDIT)
FINALLY, found a live link that doesn't jerk you around with registering or other BS....

http://www.voodoofiles.com/getit.asp?id ... =665425426

[bradfordkay]

quote:

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

quote:

Age of Sail II



This one is one some people's Best list, while other people have it on their Worst list.

I'd have to put it on the Worst, as i couldn't get the thing to run...



That would be a very valid reason to put it on your 'worst' list!
(suggestion: upgrade)



Have they ever fixed the problem with grappled ships receiving hull damage? If not, the game isn't worth the bother...I'm a sailor, so I tried every trick in the book (and a few that aren't) - coming up on the surrrendered ship form downwind, reducing sail to no sail, creeping in at @ 1 knot, grappling only on upwind side (so heavier ship wouldn't be blown onto smaller ship and crush it)... nothing prevented the smaller ship from being SUNK by hull damage received only through being grappeled to the larger ship.

[TAIL GUNNER]

After setting everything back up to play EAW.....it won't run...[:@]


Thanks to this cheap-ass on-board Intel graphics card...

It tries to create a 3D surface in 8-bit color mode, while the Intel graphics chipset families only allow 16-bit color 3D surfaces.

What a crock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tristandracul]

Can confirm with lots of the posts here on many games, especially the Combat Mission and the TotalWar series. IMHO lots of games have good aspects in some field of expertise while they often lack in others.
If I'd had to list my favourites I'd still do it with + and - in front.

1. Combat Mission: + best simulation on tactical level for this history period, best playing principle command orientated WEGO!!), good editor for replayability - some deficits in unit AI
(can't wait for CM Campaigns and CM Shockforce)
2. TotalWar series: + historic flavour and relative realism of (most) units, good graphics since RTW - often doesn't work on older machines despite meeting the official requirements
3. Tacops 3 and 4: + excellent simulation of modern tactical combat - lacks morale ratings for troops
4. Crown of Glory: + best diplomacy engine, good tactical gameplay - complicated economics, interface a bit complicated at first
5. WitP: + depth and scale - some bugs
6. Space Empires 4: + almost unlimited playability because of the excellent editor + much more stabile than Moo + excellent moddability + good graphics without the tendency to overload most newer games have - diplomacy could need more depth and options
(curious what they will make out of SEV)
7. SPWaW and SPMBT: + excellent editor, + good interface - no experimental ToEs in WinSPMBT anymore

While there are some other games with interesting options they did not catch my attention for too long. Hoi2 in my opinion has a terrible interface and I dont like the real time aspect at all, although the ability to pause is ok for a while. Same goes with BCT, ATF and the whole series, which seem to be excellent simulation tools, but lack the smoothness of for example Tacops. PoA2 looked very good although complicated to me, but was the first game ever that didnt work because of requiring literally tons of RAM.

[murphys35]

Simulations:

Microprose´s B-17
EAW
Red Baron

Strategy Games:

SPWAW
People´s General
CIV1
....
WiTP? (I'm greenhorn so it's too early to say but this game isn't without chance for sure..)

[rtrapasso]

Chess - touted by its devs as the most accurate simulation of medieval warfare ever made.[:'(]

[Sonny]

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

Chess - touted by its devs as the most accurate simulation of medieval warfare ever made.[:'(]

Are you kidding? The devs did not know what they were doing! You must be one of those "Black" fanboys. Everyone knows the "White" side should have the pawn bonus for at least several more turns. And really, can you find a time in history where a knight actually jumped over a castle, went sideways and captured a bishop? And there is a bug where the king gets transported over a castle! It is not one of those bugs that happen every once in a while - it happens regularly!

I think it needs a lot of work. It is just unplayable as is. I'm gonna wait for the next patch before I even try it again. Maybe if Subchaser makes the board artwork it would make the game more enjoyable.

[Feinder]

And it was only released with only a head-to-head version! No AI, and no PBEM!

Gawd, what a bunch of lazy devs.

-F-

[WhoCares]

Strategy:
WitP (obviously...)
Panzer General series
Civilisations
Gold - I think that was its name; Brits, French, Spanish and Portuguese conquer America (north and south)
Warlord I

Sims:
BoB
TF1942
Silent Service
Silent Hunter III
Red Baron

[comercial]
And I am surprised that nobody mentioned the undoubtly (in my not so humble opinion [;)] ) best battlefield simulation out there, as it is the only one that deserves this designation, Link: Operation Flashpoint. If you ever feel like leaving the armchair behind and take the fight up as a grunt/sergeant/lieutenant with a rifle/tank/chopper this is the best way to do so - even the US Marines and the Aussies do so Link: VBS1 [:'(] Edit after screwballs comment: VBS1 now also available to the public!

To let it speak for itself, check out the Link: combat photography and Link: combat videography threads.

Combined arms at its best.
[/comercial]
P.S. No, I am not affiliated with BIS, just a fan [;)]

[skrewball]

Too bad VBS1 is only for Federal Agencies. I do agree that Operation Flashpoint is an amazing game.