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RE: June 28th, June 29th - 1942

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RE china supply

nik in my game i had plenty after a short while. The lack of fort building helped immensely.No idea how the res income actually differs ( in amounts) in your mod vs vanilla. but holding the central cities was crucial imo for chinese supply ( and burma of course).

KD .. good idea using more fighters in china but beware that any more bombers may heavily impact your supply levels.

good luck clobbering miller there ! :)
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RE: June 28th, June 29th - 1942

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If you decide to use airpower in China, i'd greatly appreciate it if you could keep an eye on the supply levels and report occasionally in your AAR whats going on with them. I want to see if its too easy to stage moderate to large scale air offensives there while hiding behind the fort levels.

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China supply situation

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as per Nik's request here's the supply situation in China as it stands with regard's to my major base's.....asteriks* indicated which base's currently have planes

Chungking - 37,000*
Yunan - 400o*
Kunming - 7000*
Chengtu - 2500
Lanchow - 7000
Yenen - 10,000
Sian - 4500
Homan - 9000
Ichang - 13,000
Changsha - 20,000
Hengchow - 12,000*
Kweilin - 7000*
Wuchow - 9,000*

Total supply about 143,000 points...
Number of C47's on supply missions to Yunan...75 planes

So it appears that i have more than enough supply. However, Miller hasn't been a typical oppenent in regards to China. He hasn't been hitting my airfields to soak up supply, just my troops. So far he hasn't made any offensive moves on any of my cities.

Regardless, IMO it looks like a limited airwar in the theatre looks possible to me....with the following planes...
- 50 Wellington's
- 16 IL-4's
- 64 SB-2's
- 120 Chinese Fighters
- 50 P40E's
- 60 P40B's

Historically at this point...looks like this might be a bit much, so maybe the Level 9 forts are a bit much, since i'm not consuming any supplies having to build them....maybe something like level 4-6 forts would be better. Regardless i'm happy as i suck a land combat..[:D]

if you need any other info just ask....and i'll try to keep you updated on the supply situation in China as the war progresses

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RE: China supply situation

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Number of C47's on supply missions to Yunan...75 planes


I fly straight to chungking from ledo .. i believe it saves wastage from the road network but i could be wrong.

overall i'd not use wellies in china ( just my way of playing ) as i find the SB's and Il's get very good after a while and you need fighters to disrupt or stop jap training missions.

I can understand miller not hitting your bases as in my game he lost a lot of dive bombers doing that. and high level sally raids were ineffective. also pounding troops give good experience to pilots.
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RE: China supply situation

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Oh almost forgot

chinese fighters .. is there anywhere close to your bases you can get them on ground attack ? they really really need the experience. then the I16 with a good pilot is quite good .. although the I15 is still rubbish and best employed to cover bases well back from the front line.
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RE: China supply situation

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I fly straight to chungking from ledo .. i believe it saves wastage from the road network but i could be wrong.

you are right about the supply wastage...which is a sound arguement....but i think of it this way. Chunking supplies all my base's with supply points on a as needed basis. Its not going to send supplies to Yunan if its not needed. Therefore by supplying Yunan via C47's, Yunan doesn't need as much supply from Chunking, therefore the supply in Chunking goes elsewhere...where it is needed. At least this is how i understand supply works.

Also by dropping supplies off at Yunan, my operational losses are less, as i read somewhere on the forum and flying cargo missions outside the radius, increase's op losses.
overall i'd not use wellies in china ( just my way of playing ) as i find the SB's and Il's get very good after a while and you need fighters to disrupt or stop jap training missions.


SB-2's are definitley fine planes once you get the experience up....however I'm having serious problems getting them off the ground. So far every mission i've given them...they have failed to fly. Granted most the time i had them operating out of a level 1 airfield...so that probably didn't help things. But the last week or so they been operating out of a level 3 airfield...and still they don't get off the ground....so i'm not sure whats up. The only thing i can think of is that their commanders experience is very low....but theres nothing i can do about that...since the commander pool is dried up of 50/50 commanders..and theres nothing but 40/40 commands left..grrrrr
chinese fighters .. is there anywhere close to your bases you can get them on ground attack ? they really really need the experience. then the I16 with a good pilot is quite good .. although the I15 is still rubbish and best employed to cover bases well back from the front line.

funny you mentioned that as i've just had them on a bombing run last turn....to be posted next. They didn't hit anything..but it will be nice to get there exp levels out of the 40's

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RE: China supply situation

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Good point about yunan, i hadnt thought of that before . i assume you got it size 4 or bigger or ops losses do get worse. To be honest there are so many C47's in the pool i ignore ops losses anyway ( in RL my transport crews would go on strike , or try and assinate me [;)])

SB's not flying. Odd i find them reliable most of the time , assuming enough escorts. Maybe its weather in the region. and the 40/40 commanders dont help. but they do get better slowly. Any 1/2 decent ones in I15's you can swop out ?

yeah the chinese fighters dont hit much at first [:D][:D].. but they do get better, honest !
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RE: June 30th, July 1st - 1942

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lots more action this turn....

June 30th - in the early morning hours 23 LB-30's took off from their base in Calcutta and struck Moulmein resource centers. Damage was minimal as heavy cloud cover obscured a proper aiming point. Hope is this forces the Japanese to station more fighters in the Burma area. Elsewhere, allied heavy bombers struck again. This time 72 B17's out of Cooktown raided Port Moresby. CAP was heavy as 56 Zero's came up to contest the airspace. The air battle was fierce as the zero's shot down 5 bomber's, and seriously damaging another 27..forcing them to retire before the mission was complete. 40 of the bombers did get through, but only minor damage was done to the base, with only 1 Emily destroyed on the ground. My bombers did manage, however, to shoot 6 zero's out of the sky. Over in China, the attacks on each others troops continued throughout the course of the day.

July 1st - overnight the SS Triton spotted a tanker south of Okinawa. Launching a spread of 6 torpedos, one managed to slam into the hapless tanker. The submarine then retreated before ASW forces could respond. In the morning my Liberators returned to Moumein resource centers, and hit it again...still only causing minor damage. The crews will need much needed rest after two 16 hours missions back to back. Elsewhere my B17's returned to Port Moresby. This time a flight of only 49 B17's attempted to fight their way through a swarming CAP of 59 zeros. Once again the battle was fierce with the japanese zero's downing 2 bombers, and heavily damaging 28 B17's, forcing them to abandon the mission. 17 B17's did manage to get through, destroying 1 Betty on the ground. 2 zero's were shot down in this engagment.

Plan - 1) Suffering a 1:1 loss rate over PM is being deemed unacceptable at this moment, as the supply of B17's to the pacific theatre is slow. Therefore all missions are being cancelled for the time being. Instead all the B17's will be moved to Noumea to rest and retool. Afterwards, they will wait for Espiritu Santo to be built up to a level 5 airfield, where they will be deployed there to knock out the japanese airfield being built on Lunga. 2) In China, major air raid is being planned on Wuhan and Nanchang. 48 SB-2's have been moved to Changsha and will conduct a strike on the airfield at Nanchang. In escort will be about 40 P40E's. At the same time a fighter sweep with 45 planes of the AVG will hit the CAP (if there is one) over Wuhan. Also since the Japanese have been hitting the troops near Changsha regularly, 20 P40's will be kept back on CAP. Hopefully this all goes as planned. 3) lastly, all 5 American carriers sortied today out of PH with the new fast battleship North Carolina in escort....deployment will be somewhere in the south pacific for a mission of top secrecy at this time...as plans are still being finalized.

One last thing....2 weeks ago the HMS Hermione (CL) was lost due to a torpedo hit from U-205 in the eastern mediterranean while escorting a convoy. Now Chuchill wants another cruiser to replace it. Too bad he's gonna get another D-class CL as my other CL's are too important.
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RE: July 2nd, July 3rd - 1942

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woohoo..finally things went my way in China...

July 2nd - today my airstrike on Nanchang was launched with 40 SB-2's attacking the airfield there. No CAP was up..so having the escorts there proved to be pointless...as was the strike mission, since my SB-2's hit nothing, dispite clear sky's. I guess that what happens when your pilots have experience levels in the 40's. However, there was one successful mission in China as 50 P40B's of the AVG swept over Wuhan, shooting down 5 Oscar's on CAP, and losing none of their own. The rest of the day saw my Wellingtons and IL-4's hitting the Japanese troops near Nanning hard.

July 3rd - the day started off with some submarine warfare as 6 DMS's hit the SS I-3 near Espiritu, causing minor damage. Next the SS Triton, found another TK in it's sights. This time the sub surfaced as it caught the TK alone, and pumped 7 shell's in here, then slamming 2 torps into the tanker, finishing the job...sending it to the bottom of the ocean. Back in China my aircraft struck again. 1st my SB-2's hit Nanchang again...cuasing no damage, however the 30 P40E's escorting the bombers, encountered 7 Oscars on CAP, shooting down 3 of them, to no loss of their own. Next the AVG struck Wuhan again, but alas the jap pilots were frightened and didn't come up to engage my planes.

Plan - 1) In China most of my bomber's are gonna be stood down as their fatigue is high. The SB-2 will fly however, to hit Nanchang again. Its assumed that miller will bring over more fighters to defend the base, therefore i'm sending the AVG and the P40E's along as escorts (some 80 planes). Hopefully this catches him by surprise. 2) Intel reports that japanese BF is in transit from Toyko to Truk. In response 7 submarines are being sent to the shipping lanes b/t Toyko and Truk to intercept the convoy.

Elsewhere all is quite....
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interesting....

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something i just realized as i was pondering my game...

Its been 2 months of game time and so far not on of Miller's subs as attack anything in my shipping lanes. Which is astonishing considering the amount of shipping that i have going. In fact i haven't even seen Glen's spotting my TF's in the shipping lanes...something he did quite readily last game...i wonder what he's up to. So far the only subs i've spotted have been lurking around Espiritu Santu and the NE coast of Australia
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RE: interesting....

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ORIGINAL: KDonovan

something i just realized as i was pondering my game...

Its been 2 months of game time and so far not on of Miller's subs as attack anything in my shipping lanes. Which is astonishing considering the amount of shipping that i have going. In fact i haven't even seen Glen's spotting my TF's in the shipping lanes...something he did quite readily last game...i wonder what he's up to. So far the only subs i've spotted have been lurking around Espiritu Santu and the NE coast of Australia

interesting ?? maybe he's using LR sub mining ops ? have you encountered any strange minefields recenetly ?

Good one in china .. sounds like a good plan imo. I dont know if you consider this gamey but send the SB's to india and leave them on supply transport for a month or so .. massively improves thier experience at no risk. BUT combat training is even better so it's a 50/50 call i auppose.
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RE: July 4th, July 5th - 1942

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major things starting to happen......will be touched upon after this...

July 4th - well...it looks like i guessed wrong in China. I thought Miller would increase his CAP over Wuhan, therefore netting me some major air kills with my 86 plane fighter sweep...instead he stood down his planes..so my planes met no resistance, while my SB2's caused minor damage to the airfield there. Elsewhere in China..more of the same air attacks on each other's troops there.

July 5th - the SS Seadragon spotted a tanker in the straits b/t Bornea and Celebes and launched a spread of 6 torps. Unfortunately, 4 missed while 2 hits were duds..grrrr. And that was about it for that day

Plan - now before i get to the major developments..let me get the minor stuff out of the way. 1) In China i'm putting all my P40's and 3 squadrens of IL-16's on LR CAP over troops that Miller keeps hitting near Changsha. 2) Elsewhere in China the Japanese moved 16 LCU's from Canton towards Wuchow. Currently i have 65,000 troops on the railroad b/t Canton and Wuchow..so hopefully they hold, as i have about 140,000 troops 3 days out arriving as reinforcements. 3) In India, 30 Liberators will strike the airfield at Andaman Is.

Now for the major news of the day.....

Panic struck allied command today as info streamed in, pointing towards a major Japanese offensive thrust into NW-Australia in the very near future. First, on the morning of July 5th, a Hudson bomber spotted a Japanese TF located just west of Aru Island moving to the SW. The pilot confirmed that there were capital ships in the TF, but of what type, is unknown at this time. A couple hours later another Japanese TF was spotted by a different Hudson bomber. This TF was located north of Timor Is. The pilot confirmed the presence of Tranports in the TF moving towards the SE. Later in the day, the SS Spearfish located near Amboina reported being attacked by a Val dive bomber, confirming the presence of Japanese CV's in the area. Finally, to put all doubts aside, intercepts of Japanese navel codes confirmed that the Japanese 17th Army is loaded on transports and heading towards Darwin. Elements of the 17th Army are unknown at this time, but best possible estimate are elements of the 2nd, 5th, 38th, or 48th Inf Div's will be involved, as these Div's were last confirmed to be in Java. In response 2 PT boats are being sent to Kai Is. to investigate

A meeting with the General Staff concluded that a limited reinforcement of the area will be ordered, as there is concern among the Generals of this being a diversionary attack to draw forces up into the NW corner of Australia, leaving the populations centers of eastern australia open to invasion. As of now the 1st Australian Inf Div is already deployed in Darwin, with 2 Aussie Brigades. Coastal defense units are numerous and ready to lash out at the expected invasion force. Engineers have so far constructed 4 lines of fortifications and are about to finish a 5th. Supply in Darwin is around 8000 points. A supply convoy of 23,000 points that was 1 week out from Darwin is being redirected to Derby, where it will be offloaded there, due to the threat of Japanese CV's in the area. C-47's from Derby will fly in as much supply to Darwin as possible.

Reinforcements to the area will be as follows. 1st 32 B-25's are being deployed from Eastern Australia to Darwin. 32 Beauforts are currently stationed there, but are still being put together, as they just arrived 2 days ago on trains, therefore only 9 are currently servicable. Fighter cover is limited as there are only 16 Kittyhawks station there as of now. Since Darwin is percieved to be the main target, 16 Spitfires are being crated and shipped to Wyhdam to stand out of the way of the Japanese airstrikes, as the squadren is reformed. Also 35 P40E's are being crated and shipped to Derby for the same reason. Finally 16 Hudsons are being deployed to Darwin.

In terms of ground reinforcements, the 1st Aus Corps headquaters is being sent from Charter towers along with a Tank Rgt to help organize the defense there. Also a Aus Cav Division stationed at Derby will be moved to Darwin.

Future deployments of a couple squadrens of B17's to the area are being planned, but will wait for Derby and Wyhdam to reach level 5 AF's, in about a week or two.

Here's a screen shot of the situation




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RE: July 6th, July 7th - 1942

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Battle of Darwin begins.....kinda surprised about this, as you would think Miller would've wanted his forces prepped to 100 before undertaking this type of invasion. Considering we are in day 75 of the game....he could've just waited 3 more weeks and gotten that 100 prep point advantage.....oh well...here we go

July 6th - In the daylight morning hours a Hudson bomber spotted a Japanese Bombardment TF fast approaching Darwin. Two separate strikes from Darwin were then launched at the target, totalling 15 Hudson's, 2 Beauforts, and 42 B-25's. All planes failed to score any hits, and 1 Hudson and 1 Beaufort were shot down. Then my 2 brave PT boats engaged the enemy task force comprising of 3 BB's, 2 CA's, and 4 CL's. Unfortunately the DD Umikaze got an early bead on PT-42 hitting it with two 5in shells in succession, sinking the small boat instantly. The other PT boat wisely retreated. Undetered the bombardment task force then hit Darwin. However, the Japanese didn't have an easy time of it with two 9.2in CD guns and twelve 6in CD guns defending the base. These guns were able to keep the big capital ships way offshore, thereby causing little damage (only lost two 6in CD guns). Also my guns managed to seriously damage the DD Umikaze and set the CL Kiso on fire.

Elsewhere in China i had a great day. My LRCAP over my troops near Changsha worked, as first the Japanese launched an attack comprising of 16 Oscars and 38 Helens. They were met in the air by 31 P40B's, 30 P40E's, and 33 I-16's. It was a massacre as i managed to shoot down 1 Oscar and 15 Helens, losing only 3 chinese fighter planes in the process. Then!...another jap strike went in..this one comprising of 2 Oscars and 29 Helens, once again my planes ate the Japanese for lunch, as they managed to shoot down another 2 Oscars, 8 Helens, and even a Babs!. No planes were lost this time. Finally to put end this great day in China, the Japanese launched an assualt with 150,000 troops on my 65,000 troops near the city of Wuchow, and were repulsed!

One last thing, my LB-30 bomber raid on Andaman Is. was a success as 1 Nate was shot down, and moderate damage to the airfield was done

July 7th - During the night my lone PT boat, managed to sneak up on the Japanese BB TF sitting offshore undected. It lined up a torpedo shot on the CA Kako, but missed. Then snuck away before the Japanese even knew she was there. In the morning, a different Bombardment TF showed up off the shores of Darwin. This one comprised of the BB Hiei, 7 CA's and 1 CL. Aware now of the presence of Darwin's CD-units, the Japanese were able to put the hurt on my airfield there, destroying 7 planes on the ground, and even managed to score a hit on the AS Holland sitting in harbor. Around noon time, the SS Seal spotted a convoy congregating near Lautem. She managed to close in on an AP, but all here torps missed. She escaped unharmed. In the afternoon more air attacks from Darwin were launched on the japanese BB TF's, but still no hits were scored.

Back in China, my success streak continued. As the Japanese launched another raid on my troops near Changsha (here's the sucky part of 2 day turns). Once again my LR CAP massacred the incoming raid, as i managed to shoot down 11 Oscars, 6 Helens, and 1 Bab's to no loss of my own.

Plan - defense of Darwin is gonna be tough. The only planes in my arsenal that are capable of causing major damage to japanese ships are my Beuforts. Unfortunately most of my Beauforts were on the east coast of Australia, and the only way to get to Darwin is by rail, which means the squadrens have to be disbanded and reformed at that destination, leaving the planes open to navel bombardment. The only planes i can move to Darwin are Hudson's (useless), B-26's (moved 64 of them to Darwin this turn), and B-25's (moved them out of Darwin as there were barely any servicable at this time and morale was low). I kept the remaining the beauforts in Darwin in hopes of them hitting something, and i moved another squadren to Whydam, so the planes can repair itself before being moved to Darwin. Another bad thing about the defense of Darwin, is i have no mines there, and all the subs in the area are fleet subs with those useless torpedos. Therefore i'm moving 4-5 S-boats from the Coral Sea to the Darwin area.

Elsewhere in China, i'm standing down my fighters for needed rest, as i believe Miller has no intention in conducting any air raids until he moves in some Zero's.

Otherwise...heres a screen shot of the Battle of Darwin...



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RE: July 6th, July 7th - 1942

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Is darwin on a road line in CHS ? in which case i dont think u can rail them can you ???? . could fly in hudsons and upgrade ( but that does leave you open for a few days)

Humm N australia .. odd choice imo .. its a desert isnt it ? Well i suppose it stops you counter attacking into the DEI early so thats a plus point for japan .. Actually the more i think on it .. not a bad move at all ..

And yes those CD guns in Darwin are pretty good [;)]
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RE: July 8th, July 9th - 1942

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the battle rages.....and fleet subs suck

July 8th - talk about a bad day for my subs. First the SS Permit has the DD Asagumo in its sights near Aru Is, and launches 2 torps into the DD that fail to detonate. Then the SS Seal locates the CL Kashii...and misses the light cruiser completely. Then we have the SS Skipjack, which finds a troop transport loaded with troops heading to Darwin...and it misses also. The Skipjack is then hit by a 250kg bomb from a Val causing major damage....it may not make it back to port. I miss my S-boats. In non-submarine related news, the 3 BB Jap TF returned to Darwin and flattened the airfield destroying 6 planes on the ground..and managed to knock out one of my 9.2in coastal defense guns. This bombardment group was followed by the BB Hiei group which also hit Darwin hard, destryoing 10 planes on the ground. The only bright spot in this theatre was when the AS Holland was attacked by 20 Bettys out of Koepang, and managed to escaped unscathed.

Elsewhere, Miller took a risk and succeeded in China. Instead of standing down his exhausted shot up planes last turn, he launched a surprised raid on Changsha, and caught my planes on the ground there destroying 4 planes on the ground.

July 9th - another bad day for my subs, as the SS Seal located a troop transport heading towards Darwin, and managed to miss the lumbering giant with its torpedos. This is really getting bothersome. In other news, Darwin finally managed to get a strike off the ground, but of course it was pathetic as only 3 Beuforts attack the CA Mogami, scoring now hits. In a surprise move, the japanese launched an air raid on Derby and managed to take out 1 C-47 on the ground there. However, there was one bright spot in the theatre today. The japanese started to land troops at Darwin, but so far only a BF is among the forces there. Needless to say, the Artillery barrage conducted by my forces at Darwin completely devasted this Japanese force, killing 700 troops.

Elsewhere, the japanese struck Changsha again, but today only 1 plane was destroyed on the ground. Lastly, complete reinforcements arrived at the battle outside Wuchow, bringing my ground forces up to 210,000 troops to Millers 130,000 troops.

Plan - Darwin is looking bad for me. First, the Bombardment TF attacks are really killing my ability to launch any counter airstrikes as they keep my airforce grounded. Second, even if i did get the AF up and running, the CAP over the TF's by Jap CV's are preventing any strikes from even forming up. This can't be counter balanced with fighters of my own, as they have to be shipped in piecemeal from Eastern Australia. Third, with PM in Japanese hands, a strong surface TF has to travel around the entire continent in order to pose a threat to his forces. Fourth, my AF can't hit sh*t and my fleet subs suck. So in light of this, i've decided to pull back all my planes out of Darwin. Unfortunately with Japanese troops in Darwin, the rail network as been shut down, so everything has to be flown out...which will take awhile. So as of now the defense of Darwin will be up to my troops and my sucky fleet subs.

One major blow against the Japanese is being formed up though in that theatre. With Derby now at level 5 AF, i've moved about 75 B17's to the base, and will conduct a massive raid against the Betty's based at Koepang.

Elsewhere, in China i've decided to move my fighters from Changsha to Chungking..as the replacement rates for the P40's are low enough as it is...and i'm not ready to get into an attrition battle in the theatre. However, the AVG is being moved to Kuming where they will be on LRCAP duty for troops outside Nanning that keep being bothered by unescorted Sallys. Also in the contested rail line b/t Wuchow and Canton, i'm attempting an assualt on the Japanese positions there, hopefully they'll be forced back to Canton, so i can move on to conquering Nanning.

In India, and strong surface TF of 4 BB's is being formed and sent on a bombardment mission to Andaman Is. ETA is in 3 days.
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RE: July 6th, July 7th - 1942

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Is darwin on a road line in CHS ? in which case i dont think u can rail them can you ???? . could fly in hudsons and upgrade ( but that does leave you open for a few days)

I'm playing on Stock map, so its a rail hex city....and like you said flying in hudsons and converting them to Beauforts leaves me open for a few days, which at that point miller would have all but wiped out the AF with his BB's....so its better right now to just retreat to planes to Derby, and let them rebuild/repair there. At which point i may consider moveing them back to Darwin.
Humm N australia .. odd choice imo .. its a desert isnt it ? Well i suppose it stops you counter attacking into the DEI early so thats a plus point for japan .. Actually the more i think on it .. not a bad move at all ..

the more and more i think about it...this may be a diversionary attack. So far the only carriers Miller has brought into the theatre are CVE's. So the KB is still somewhere else. Also, no significant land forces have been landed yet. So something else is up...and i'm not sure what. Plus...if you were to do a NW Australia invasion right, you would roll up the lightley defended bases of Derby, Wyhdam, and Broome first to protect your flanks.

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RE: July 6th, July 7th - 1942

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Looks like such a pretty map, i assumed ( wrongly) it was CHS. Which one is it ?

Yes you may be right about a diversion. I was going to suggest you make sure you garrison perth ( lots of points available to japan there). BUT if it is a divertion ??? humm .. definately food for thought.

The lack of CV's seems a bit of a giveaway. unless he's hoding them back for a pounce forward if you respond navally to darwin.

Derby is a great base imo .. start railing up the aussies from the south ( you probably already have ) .. can you fly beauforts vis alice springs ?

Good luck as ever KD
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RE: July 6th, July 7th - 1942

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Looks like such a pretty map, i assumed ( wrongly) it was CHS. Which one is it ?

its Subchaser's map for the stock game.......so nice and easy on the eyes

you can get it at spookys website
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RE: July 6th, July 7th - 1942

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stock still connected by rails but in the mod i removed the resources so it reduces supply a tad making 4E's tougher to operate there.

Not sure Darwin gambit is a feint but either way, you can live without it for a while. Northern Oz isn't too strategically vital. One advantage of taking it though is that it keeps the bombers from hitting Timor.
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RE: July 6th, July 7th - 1942

Post by KDonovan »

Not sure Darwin gambit is a feint but either way, you can live without it for a while. Northern Oz isn't too strategically vital. One advantage of taking it though is that it keeps the bombers from hitting Timor.

I agree Nik, that Darwin isn't that vital for me strategically, as once he takes it...those jap troops essentially just activated all those Aussie Div's that were the restricted Aus Command...and now can be used for combat on the mainland. Allowing me to hopefully take out a Japanese Div (if he lands one...which he hasn't yet)

I still think his main goal is still somewhere in the south pacific as his carriers are still the king of the game for the time being


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