Andy Mac v PZB ....The Allies Fight Back

[Andy Mac]

CVE didnt make it but I never really expected it to



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/22/44

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Naval bombardment of Noemfoor, at 45,76 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

51 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD Mahan
DD Cassin
DD Cummings, Shell hits 1
DD Shaw, Shell hits 13, on fire, heavy damage
DD Downes, Shell hits 1
DD Cushing
DD Norman
BB Idaho, Shell hits 4

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2

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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 106
D4Y Judy x 22
B6N Jill x 63
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 67
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 66

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 87

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
32 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
27 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
34 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
24 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
27 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
22 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
24 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
17 x B6N Jill bombing at 10000 feet
27 x B6N Jill bombing at 10000 feet
22 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
14 x B6N Jill bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B6N Jill bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B6N Jill bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 130
J2M Jack x 79
D4Y Judy x 66
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 36

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 19
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 81

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
24 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
26 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
32 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
40 x J2M Jack bombing at 2000 feet
41 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
39 x J2M Jack bombing at 2000 feet
27 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
19 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
21 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kendari , at 33,71

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 14

Allied aircraft
Mosquito PR.IX x 2
P-38J Lightning x 15
F-5A Lightning x 2
F-5C Lightning x 4
PB4Y Liberator x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 4 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed


Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
2 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Morotai , at 43,68


Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 4


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Noemfoor , at 45,76


Allied aircraft
A-20G Havoc x 10
B-24J Liberator x 20


Allied aircraft losses
A-20G Havoc: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x A-20G Havoc bombing at 10000 feet
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
4 x A-20G Havoc bombing at 10000 feet
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Pagan , at 64,62

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 57

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 13000 feet
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 13000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 13000 feet
6 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 13000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 13000 feet
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 13000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 13000 feet
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 13000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 13000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 13000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 13000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 13000 feet
6 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 13000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 13000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 13000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 13000 feet
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Day Air attack on Emirau Island , at 60,84


Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 70
P-38J Lightning x 13
B-25J Mitchell x 53


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
46 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 41
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
22 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
12 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
11 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
20 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
7 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
6 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
A6M5 Zeke x 22

Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 4
PB4Y Liberator x 3
B-24J Liberator x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F-5C Lightning: 1 destroyed
PB4Y Liberator: 2 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on 32nd Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 45,76


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3
F4U-1D Corsair x 13
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 34
Beaufort V-IX x 6
B-25J Mitchell x 10
B-24J Liberator x 18


Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1D Corsair: 2 damaged
Beaufighter Mk 21: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
7 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
5 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
5 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 8000 feet
6 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
10 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
13 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
12 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on 84th Chinese Corps, at 43,35

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 24

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x B6N Jill bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 1st Amphibious/A Brigade, at 45,76


Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 4
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 15
Beaufort V-IX x 4
B-25J Mitchell x 9
B-24J Liberator x 10


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
46 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Beaufort V-IX bombing at 8000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
3 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
4 x F4U-1D Corsair bombing at 2000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 8000 feet
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Biak at 46,77


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 5


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AG AG-5140, Shell hits 8, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Beaufighter Mk 21 attacking at 100 feet
4 x Beaufighter Mk 21 attacking at 100 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 33,74

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 13
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 74

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
CVE Corregidor, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 31,73

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
LCT LCT-144
LCT LCT-141, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 4000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 4000 feet
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Day Air attack on Pagan , at 64,62


Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 29


Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
64 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
28 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Pagan , at 64,62

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 12
SB2C Helldiver x 109

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 2 destroyed, 12 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
155 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 43

Aircraft Attacking:
28 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
25 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
27 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
27 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet

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Ground combat at Noemfoor

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 35930 troops, 315 guns, 85 vehicles, Assault Value = 822

Defending force 30210 troops, 201 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 576

Allied max assault: 1594 - adjusted assault: 793

Japanese max defense: 403 - adjusted defense: 1405

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 8)


Japanese ground losses:
262 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Allied ground losses:
1436 casualties reported
Guns lost 48
Vehicles lost 4


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Ground combat at Makale

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4626 troops, 36 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 293

Defending force 6518 troops, 67 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 138


Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

[Andy Mac]

OK as threatened [:D] part 1 of my blow by blow disater to come called the Battle of Tinian !!!!

Phase 1 Loading.

For the last 4 days I have been loading troops uning the routines in the game I have now assempbled my TF's and will outline the TF organisation

1st my Invasion TF's

I have 5 Invasion TF easch composed around a Battleship

Eash one has an escort of the following ships to which transports are added

1 x BB
1 x CA (alternate command ship)
8 x MSW
8 x DE
4 x DD
3 x LCI (G)

TF Colorado (Flagship USS Colorado Vice Admiral Brown - CIC Operation Thunderchild)
Alternate command ship USS Minneapolis

V Amphib Force (Rear Admiral Turner Beach Commander on Mount McKinlay commanding V Amphib Force)
1st USMC Div
6th US Div

(All loaded on LST's with 2 LSD's and 2 LSV plus about 5 AK with supply)

TF California (Flagship USS California Rear Admiral Draemal)
Alternate Command Ship USS Astoria
3rd Corps HQ
7th US Div
40th US Div

(7th US Div is loaded on LST's, 40th US on small AP's, 3 Corps on APD's and several small AK's)

TF North Carolina (Flagship USS North Carolina Rear Admiral Hill)
Alternate Command Ship USS Chicago
8th Army (Eichelberger)
1 Brigade of 24th US Div
5th Aus Tank Regt

(Some loaded on LCT's and AP's Armour on AK's this is primary supply convoy with 20+ AK's of supply)

TF Maryland (Flagship USS Maryland, Rear Admiral Mailhot)
Alternate command ship USS Salt Lake City
33rd US Div
37th US Div
3 Arty Regts
5 Armoured Bns

(Armour and Arty on AK's, US Divs on AP's but mostly medium sized ones and last of LST's and a few LCM's)

TF Washington (Flagship USS Washington, Rear Admiral Childers)
Alternate Command Ship USS Chester
24th US Div (2 Bdes)
19th Combat Engineer Regt
V Amphib Corps
2 Armoured Bns
Several Seabee Bns
131st Aviation Regt

(Mostly AK's and LCT's support is on AK's, some Ap's with 24th US Div)

Total 150,000 men and 300 Tanks and over 500 arty tubes plus 300,000 tonnes of supply

[Andy Mac]

Part 2

Light TF's

4 x ASW TF's of 8 DD's (At least one RN DD per TF)
4 x Surface Combat TF's of 1 x CL and 7 DD's (All Fletcher class DD's)
1 x Other TF of 25 mixed SC's, PG's and PC's for escorting cripples back to Entiwock
1 x Other TF of 25 mixed SC's, PG's and PC's based at Entiwock for ASW operations

Escort/Replenishment TF's

2 x CVE TF's of 6 x CVE, 10x DD, 8 x DE
2 x Replenishment TF's of 2 x CVE, 3-4 x CVR, 1 AE, 4 x AO, 1 x CL, 3 x DD, 6 x DE.

Bombardment TF

TF 1 USS Massechusets, USS New Jersey, 6 x DD, 3 x DMS
TF 2 USS South Dakota, USS Iowa, 6 x DD, 3 x DMS
TF 3 USS Alabama/, FFR Richelieu, 6 x DD, 3 x DMS

Any questions ? [:D][:D][:D]

I will cover carriers when they get back for the little raid I have sent them on !!!!

[Andy Mac]

In total 730+ ships including 11 BB's, 10 CA's or CL's, 16 CVE's, 7 CVR's, 130+ DD's, 70+DE's not to mention the carrier TF's and replacement ships enroute to Kwaj for the next wave .....

[Andy Mac]

OK Carriers last review
 
At Sea operating around the Marianas in 3 TF's under Halsey, Mitchser and Spruance
 
6 CV's, 7 CVL's, 6 CA's, 6 CLAA's, 8 CL's, 23 DD's
 
At Sea on way to Kwaj
 
2 CV's, 5 CVE's, 7 DD's,
 
At Sea Heading to Pearl for Refit
 
2 CV's, 1 CVL, 1 CA, 5 CL's
 
Total 23 Carriers,  26 Cruiser, 30 Destroyers.
 
I plan to rotate my carriers back to Entiwok to re arm and will aim to keep 3 Full TF's on station at all times with no less than 6 fleet Carriers to back up the CVE's.
 
 

[Andy Mac]

OK last but not least in my review of forces the replenishment TF's
 
On Board the replenishment TF's
 
I Have 324 Hellcats, 54 FM-2's, 168 TBM's and 168 Helldivers
 
The only pool I am concerned about is the Helldiver one as I expect my Divebombers to suffer badly from Flak when covering the invasion.
 
I also will have 1 x  F4U1-D Sqn and 2 x Hellcat sqns rested and waiting to emergancy hot deck if required.
 
My 2 latest Essex Class have arrived with a Sqn of F4U1D's raising the fighter / FB strength to 72 per carrier a timely arrival as I will need the CAS those FB's will provide and the boost to my CAP aint bad either.
 
Unfortunately I dont have a replenishment gp for F4U - 1D's so they are slightly more fragile than my other types.
 
p.s. not to all the allied players .....DO NOT use CVR's for combat in 42 early 43 I would gladly trade 6 CVE's at this point for more of these wonderfull ships you do not get that many of them and unfortunatly they arrive early so the temptation is to use them for other purposes ....DONT you need them in 43/44/44.
 
 
 
 
 

[ny59giants]

I will have to add this info to my steadily growing document on "WitP Helps & Strategies" for "when" I ever get to this point in a game. [&o]
You will need to rotate those CV TF's to keep them fresh as I don't think this will be a "Turkey Shoot." [:D][:D]
More like trench warfare. [;)]

[Andy Mac]

Well I scatterend my AC TF's keeping away from HI and sank a few transports today [:D][:D]

PZB says they were all empty after unloading 170k supplies !!!!

I am trying to fixate attention on Pagan at moment a little deception plan

I have spotted another convoy to the North East and the Bonins are gettign packed with A/C so I am skirting the islands and trying to chase down thaty convoy before heading for home.

TF's will set sail for destiny tomorrow.

p.s. NY59giants dont bookmark it until its proven to actually work !!!!

Aye 3 TF's on station one at Pearl replenishing and 1 at Entiwock re arming that the plan.

I took major risks at Wasile when I took my carriers in close this is a risk I CANNOT take on this operation PZB has 3 major weapons at his disposal to cause me grief and two minor weapon.

1. Ground Force and Forts to tie me down this is not going to be a short fight.
2. Surface Combat TF's ....his BB's are still intact and will need to be dealt with by keeping my carriers between HI and Marianas enough to stop a 10 hex suicide run in to the invasion beach.
3. Massed airpower my carriers will need to stop it.

These are the major weapons

4. KB hitting my LOC and cripples
5. Subs on lmy LOC hitting cripples

These are the minor weapons.

He can still cause a lot of grief if he decides this is th eline in the sand.

Now he may not he may wait for Kamikazes to activate and use these weapons att he Bonins or Okinawa I dont know

Andy

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/23/44

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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 311
N1K1-J George x 27
J2M Jack x 121
D4Y Judy x 145
B6N Jill x 61
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 68

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 540

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Kendari , at 33,71

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
Mosquito PR.IX x 2
P-38J Lightning x 13
F-5A Lightning x 2
F-5C Lightning x 4
PB4Y Liberator x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
PB4Y Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Morotai , at 43,68


Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 6


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Hollandia , at 49,79


Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 6
P-40N Warhawk x 3
P-47D Thunderbolt x 9
B-25J Mitchell x 32


No Allied losses

Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Biak , at 46,77


Allied aircraft
B-24J Liberator x 8


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Noemfoor , at 45,76


Allied aircraft
A-20G Havoc x 9
B-24J Liberator x 17


Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 24

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Noemfoor , at 45,76


Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 8
P-40N Warhawk x 9
PB4Y Liberator x 10
B-24J Liberator x 34


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 31

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Pagan , at 64,62

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 43

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 48

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Hansa , at 53,83


Allied aircraft
P-47D Thunderbolt x 3
B-25J Mitchell x 25


No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on Emirau Island , at 60,84


Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
SB2C Helldiver x 66
P-38J Lightning x 3
B-25J Mitchell x 63


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 94

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on 19th Naval Guard Unit, at 60,84


Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 36
Kittyhawk III x 24
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 22
P-40N Warhawk x 54
P-38J Lightning x 6


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on 32nd Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 45,76


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3
F4U-1D Corsair x 15
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 48
Beaufort V-IX x 10
P-38J Lightning x 2
B-25J Mitchell x 18
B-24J Liberator x 30


Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 70,55


Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 28
SB2C Helldiver x 50
TBM Avenger x 17


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Italy Maru, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Menado Maru
AK Horaizan Maru, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF, near Biak at 46,77


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 4


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AG AG-365, Shell hits 16, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Beaufighter Mk 21 attacking at 100 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Iwo Jima at 63,53

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 3
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 25

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 27
SB2C Helldiver x 44
TBM Avenger x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 12 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed
SB2C Helldiver: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Shuko Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP Rakuyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Nichibi Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tenran Maru, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW W.30, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW W.9, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tenryu Maru, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tenzan Maru, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Taganoura Maru

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 57,59


Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 28


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Juyo Maru, Bomb hits 10, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 60,57


Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 25
TBM Avenger x 33


Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Gozan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Narita Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Taikei Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Kenan Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 31,73

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Elna
LCT LCT-164, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
LCT LCT-180, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 58,57


Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 14


Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
MSW Wa 103
AK Reikai Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 58,57


Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 28
SB2C Helldiver x 17
TBM Avenger x 21


Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 1 damaged
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Oita Maru, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Shinfuku Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Reikai Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
MSW Wa 103, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Jinju Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 62,55


Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 15


Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Buenos Aires Maru
MSW W.27
AP Africa Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 60,58


Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 15


Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Yasushima Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 62,55


Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 22


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Ayaha Maru, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
AP Bokuyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Arabia Maru, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 57,55


Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 28


Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
PC Amakusa
PC PC-20, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PC Fukue, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
PC Sado

Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 60,57


Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 17


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Taikei Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Narita Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Gozan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:

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Ground combat at Makale

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4659 troops, 39 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 295

Defending force 6535 troops, 64 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 140


Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Noemfoor

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1435 troops, 26 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 496

Defending force 29785 troops, 190 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 561


Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported

[Andy Mac]

p.s. I have sent three massive Wolfpacks into operation
 
1.  25 subs are now operating in a picket line in the south china sea.
2. A second of c 15 subs is operating off of Okinawa
3 The last is moving into position north of the Marianas and will consist of another 25 subs including RN and Dutch Boats.
 
In addition as part of the admin for this I have over 200 ships in supporting roles
 
AR's, AD's, AS's and AGP's at Entiwock and Kwaj
Upgraded PT Boats Sqns covering Entiwock and Kwaj
Tankers bringing fuel to Entiwock
Sub chasing flotillas at Pearl, Majuro, Tarawa, Entiwock and Kwaj.
Spare MSW's I am keeping for the next operation
 
etc etc

[ny59giants]

I was just reading through your last combat report and thinking about using your subs for early warning pickets and then you mentioned it in your last post. [:D]
I feel that he knows you are coming, but I wonder if he can truly stop you, except via weather or die rolls. [:D]

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: Tallyho!

It's only by great games like this, going so far into uncharted territory (in game mechanics terms), that problems will be found and lessons learned.
Now, when necessary, the rest of us can set some reasonable house rules to suit the playing style of the two players involved.

Stacking limits have been totally overlooked in WITP - PERIOD.

Not exactly. The designers were warned repeatedly. [8|]

[Andy Mac]

PZB has got me a little paranoid intel is indicating 100k plus on Tinian lvl 9 forts probably massive minefields and CD guns (PZB says he has some 240mm CD guns on one of the islands !!!! I dont knwo which one though)
 
I will admit I am a little spooked.
 
As a result I am amending the plan.
 
While my TF's finish loading supplies I am detaching the Bombardment TF's and my Reserve MSW Gp.
 
It is my intention to immediately redeploy all 6 BB's of the Bombardment TF's into a single force with all 9 DMS's and the 10 BAthhurst Class MSW's of the reserve group.
 
This TF will proceed with one of the 2 replenishment TF's immediately to the Marianas operational area.
 
The Bombardment TF will then spend 3 days bombarding Tinian before withdrawing to the AE at Entiwock to rearm and reorganise back into 3 Bombardment Sqns.
 
All four carrier TF's currently at sea will move to the vicinity of Tinian and commence round the clock strikes on the port and ground units.
 
The B29's out Kwaj will concentrate on keeping the AF shut.
 
My intention is to spend at least a week softening up Tinian before my transports get near.
 
My assumption is that the 14 - 18 CVE's escorting the invasion fleet will be sufficient to keep KB at bay.
 
I am recutting the plan in this way because I am nervous and despite the desire for surprise on the specific objective I think a week - 10 days of softening up is more valuable.
 
Andy 

[Bliztk]

A bit of advice. Stay two or three weeks flattening the place.

Until you have disembarked with your land units you have not commited anything.

Each point of disruption and fatigue that you get on his units is going to be crucial for the success (or time refitting after) of the conquest of Tinian


And be sure of clearing all of the mines. Beware of fast surface combat missions trying to kill your MSW after the CDs are knocked out

[sprior]

So this is what I have to look forward to in 12 months of game time? Holy cr@p! Maybe it was better if I didn't know...

[Andy Mac]

I will see how the suppression goes before deciding to commit.

Simon watch this space...........

OK with all the debates going on over land combat I thought I would outline my estimate of what I face and the uphill struggle to come...

I estimate PZB will have c 1,000 AV on Tinian in plentiful supply with good leaders

So 1,000 AV
lvl 9 Forts x 3
Command HQ x 0.9
Corps HQ x 0.1
Combat Supply x 1 (or x 2 if nemo is correct and I am wrong)

So before any other modifiers i.e. disruption, fatigue, leaders, preperation etc etc I am facing c 4,000 adjusted AV at maximum.

I am bringing to the party

7 Divisions plus about 6 Armoured Regts so 7 x 390 + 6 x 50 so about 3,050 AV plus the command and corps HQ's total max AV of 6,100 assuming full supply.

Not enough for 2:1 even at best.

I expect my units to take a real beating on landing so my AV will be 50% - 80% lower or c 1500 - 2000 after landing.

PZB will be bombed and attacked but I really dont expect to do much until my Heavy Arty comes into play (I am bringing 3 seperate 155mm Arty Units plus a Corps level Arty unit along)

My objective is via air, sea and arty bombardments to increase fatigue and disruption to the extent that I can take the base.

This means round the clock air and port bombardment by Superforts to kill support squads and engineers

Ground Attacks by F4U's (100%) and F6F's (30%CAS/ 20% Escort/ 50% CAP), FM2's (30%CAS/ 20% Escort/ 50% CAP)
TBM's on port, ground or air attack depending on circumstances
Helldivers I am unsure if the benefit of using Dive bombers on ground support is going to justify the cost I may leave them on naval search naval attack just in case

NGS from my 3 Heavy TF's and after landing the other 5 BB's if they are in a fit state will join in as well.

Overall a hell of a party

[VSWG]

Keep in mind that in May 1944, an IJA Rifle Squad as an AntiSoft-value of 23 and an AntiArmor-value of 17, while your USA Rifle Squads have 32/55 (Marines are even better: 44/55).

Those differences are not incorporated into the AV, which simply sums-up the number of infantry squads and attack vehicles (device types 22 and 23). So your actual combat strength is higher than it seems - although no one can say exactly how much higher.

[Andy Mac]

True True my squads are better equipped my armour is better and I hope my Arty is better...
 
But its still going to be a long grinding fight.
 
One of the reasons for choosing Tinian over Saipan is I do not want to tangle with the x3 defensive multiple on top of lvl 9 forts for assaulting a mountainous Island without complete Land Based Ground Support.
 
This is going to be tough !!!

[Andy Mac]

Actually high command has a cunning plan given the success of the 'drop the beer kegs in the wrong place' tactic at Kwajalein and the ferocity of the Australian Tankers response to losing their ale.
 
1. 2 Aus Tank Regts will be in the forefront of the attack.
2. On day 2 of the assault a 8 x 500kg's of Beer will be dropped by a Superfortress with pinpoint accuracy over Tinian AF.
3. The Australian Tankers and US Marines will be told about the beer at the same time AND told that the other knows about it.
4. Everyone else gets out of the way......
 
This is the super secret tactic to win the Battle of Tinian in 2 days 

[Andy Mac]

OK I would like a few opinions.
 
I am extremely nervous about operations in the Marianas and have more or less decided to stop the Minotaur attacks until I know how it goes.
 
OK well and good.
 
I have 3 Fleet Carriers (1 RN - the lucky and unsinkable HMS Formidable) in SWPAC.
 
Their job was to keep up the pressure but I have more or less shut that offensive down following the losses to my escort carriers.
 
I am very tempted to transfer them to the CENTPAC front which would give me 6 Carrier TF's guaranteeing a decent Night CAP and allowing me to ensure I always have 1 active carrier TF at Pearl to cope with raiders.
 
So 3 on station
1 in transit
1 in refit
1 active at Pearl
 
I think I would feel safer with the extra coverage in case a carrier takes battle damage as I expect thsi fight to take a long while
Any thoughts ?
 
Stay in SWPAC or bring em over for a max effort ?

[Przemcio231]

Well i think better to stick them all thogheter...[:D]

Any way from what im reading you expect heavy resistance on Marianas so why to push your units to fight on his rules?? try something more unexpected like landing on the North Luzon , Formosa and Okinawa and let those japs on Marianas starve to death...[:D][:D][:D] and this will give you another advantage no Recources and Fuel deliverys to Japan enymore...[:D][:D][:D][:D] Remeber he can't be strong Everywhere[:D] i know this is a dearing strategy but its worth it[:D]