The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

[Canoerebel]

I don't know any American men who ask for directions. Don't we all just keep circling until we find the place (those of us who don't use GPS, I mean)?

[crsutton]

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Starland Vocal Band

A classic. Smithsonian worthy.

Yes but a one hit wonder.

[adarbrauner]

ORIGINAL: crsutton


Yes, in real life it did not matter but in this game it eventually gives the Allies major air bases in China. Pretty much the rule that a Japanese player has to neutralize China in AE. Dan could just honor the intent and not mount major offensives from China. He is well on his way to victory without doing that anyways. But Dan can just do it his way as John has lost anyways.

Points aren't talking the same - meanwhile...

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

BR 549!

My home telephone number growing up in the '60s: 305-666-**** (**** omitted to prevent internet weirdness from somehow happening).

I still know my college girlfriend's telephone number. (This seems very sad, sorta; like I need to listen to the Moody Blues "Wildest Dreams.")

I still know many phone numbers, including a few I never called. The things your brains remember...

As for Bullwinkle being a circus freak... well, I'm not sure circuses have moose, but maybe. In any case, I'd say that the 29-year-olds who DON'T remember memorizing phone numbers are the weird ones. It's not like they grew up after cell phones became ubiquitous or anything. They should remember the days of dial-up and instant messaging and emailing, too... if they don't, there's something freaky about them. They missed an entire era that they are of the right age to have experienced.

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I don't know any American men who ask for directions. Don't we all just keep circling until we find the place (those of us who don't use GPS, I mean)?

No. We look at the map before we go and know how to get there. Occasionally we might miss a turn in to a new destination, but we just go to the next spot and turn around.

[BillBrown]

I never get lost, I always know where I am. Sometimes it takes me longer than it should to get to where I need to go. [;)]

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I don't know any American men who ask for directions. Don't we all just keep circling until we find the place (those of us who don't use GPS, I mean)?

No. We look at the map before we go and know how to get there. Occasionally we might miss a turn in to a new destination, but we just go to the next spot and turn around.

I have been misled by the GPS more times than by a map. Where roads and access/exit ramps are close together the GPS will often think you are on a different road and tell you strange things - like turn around and go back (while on a one-way road.

I had trouble finding my niece's place on the outskirts of Calgary even though I put in the correct postal address. The GPS would not search past the official Calgary borders even when I tried to expand the search zone. It kept sending me to another place within the city with 'almost' the same address.

GPS is only as good as its programming and sensor accuracy.

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

As for Bullwinkle being a circus freak... well, I'm not sure circuses have moose, but maybe. In any case, I'd say that the 29-year-olds who DON'T remember memorizing phone numbers are the weird ones. It's not like they grew up after cell phones became ubiquitous or anything. They should remember the days of dial-up and instant messaging and emailing, too... if they don't, there's something freaky about them. They missed an entire era that they are of the right age to have experienced.

My base-unit "mobile" house phone in the late 80s had phone number memory. A real brick handset. You can see similar models in old Seinfeld eps. Had the retractable antenna you pulled out when answering every call. A 29-YO was a child in the late 80s. I'm talking remembering dozens of numbers from the 60s and 70s. The era of the legendary "little black book" Lotharios had in all the movies. The LBB was the go-to when your "hot date" number collection exceeded the low dozens.

Speaking of dial-up, my first "on-line" experience was across Grounds to the mainframe center to talk to a CDC mini. Rotary dial phone, black-rubber acoustic coupler cups. Teledyne B&W dumb terminal. I thought it was magical. Played the hell out of an ASCII character Star Trek game while I waited for a spot at the card-punch machine to do my COBOL homework. And that was MODERN compared to the 1960s.

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: crsutton

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Starland Vocal Band

A classic. Smithsonian worthy.

Yes but a one hit wonder.

Nothing wrong with one-hit wonders. I looked in Wiki this morning to see how many famous rock/pop hits were such. Lots. From "I'm Turning Japanese" to "Rockin' Robin." One of my faves was "99 Luftballoons", both in original German and then English. Nena made a really nice video too, if you were into black leather and hairy armpits.

Interestingly, I also found a Classical One-Hit Wonder site. Don't know many of them, but the one that jumped out is a piece every American hears a dozen times a year, at least. Pachelbel's Canon in D.

[crsutton]

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

As for Bullwinkle being a circus freak... well, I'm not sure circuses have moose, but maybe. In any case, I'd say that the 29-year-olds who DON'T remember memorizing phone numbers are the weird ones. It's not like they grew up after cell phones became ubiquitous or anything. They should remember the days of dial-up and instant messaging and emailing, too... if they don't, there's something freaky about them. They missed an entire era that they are of the right age to have experienced.

My base-unit "mobile" house phone in the late 80s had phone number memory. A real brick handset. You can see similar models in old Seinfeld eps. Had the retractable antenna you pulled out when answering every call. A 29-YO was a child in the late 80s. I'm talking remembering dozens of numbers from the 60s and 70s. The era of the legendary "little black book" Lotharios had in all the movies. The LBB was the go-to when your "hot date" number collection exceeded the low dozens.

Speaking of dial-up, my first "on-line" experience was across Grounds to the mainframe center to talk to a CDC mini. Rotary dial phone, black-rubber acoustic coupler cups. Teledyne B&W dumb terminal. I thought it was magical. Played the hell out of an ASCII character Star Trek game while I waited for a spot at the card-punch machine to do my COBOL homework. And that was MODERN compared to the 1960s.

Yeah, I was finishing my degree in 1995 (I know, it took me a while.) and remember the first time I used a modem from my home to dial into the University of Maryland library system and then being able to search public and university library catlogs all over the US. It just blew me away. Of course, had I only known about cut and paste back then..[:D]

[JeffroK]

I never get lost, except onetime when I visited the Northern Hemisphere [8D]

Went to Kansas City for work, had a day off and caught the bus to Independence Mo.

Did a lot of walking, went to a few Harry Truman sites and then walked to the Santa Fe Museum.

Great Museum, then left and walked towards the "Tornado Church?", got to the intersection on top of the hill and,believing I was looking East, wondered if cities in the USA went on forever.

Took a few minutes to realise I had turned 180deg and was actually looking westwards back at KC and not eastwards into Missouri.

I have a GPS, dont use it in OZ, has gone to NZ and provided comfort as sometimes I like to take the road rarely used. I have 100's of Maps and some Atlas's that are 100 years old. Now I use googlemaps to get the lay of the country

[Canoerebel]

Regarding China, I've had a general idea of what I plan to do there for a long time, both land war and air war.

I've built Sian to level 7 airfield, partly with the idea of using it to bomb Japan when the right time comes. But China's supply situation can't handled a major, prolonged bombing campaign (I think). So the goal will be to force John to allocate fighters to Japan as soon as possible.

(I think the Allies seriously considered using China airfields in a major way during the war, though eventually scaling that back due to supply.)

On the land war, that depends on developments yet to come.

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

As for Bullwinkle being a circus freak... well, I'm not sure circuses have moose, but maybe. In any case, I'd say that the 29-year-olds who DON'T remember memorizing phone numbers are the weird ones. It's not like they grew up after cell phones became ubiquitous or anything. They should remember the days of dial-up and instant messaging and emailing, too... if they don't, there's something freaky about them. They missed an entire era that they are of the right age to have experienced.

My base-unit "mobile" house phone in the late 80s had phone number memory. A real brick handset. You can see similar models in old Seinfeld eps. Had the retractable antenna you pulled out when answering every call. A 29-YO was a child in the late 80s. I'm talking remembering dozens of numbers from the 60s and 70s. The era of the legendary "little black book" Lotharios had in all the movies. The LBB was the go-to when your "hot date" number collection exceeded the low dozens.

Speaking of dial-up, my first "on-line" experience was across Grounds to the mainframe center to talk to a CDC mini. Rotary dial phone, black-rubber acoustic coupler cups. Teledyne B&W dumb terminal. I thought it was magical. Played the hell out of an ASCII character Star Trek game while I waited for a spot at the card-punch machine to do my COBOL homework. And that was MODERN compared to the 1960s.

Maybe I'm an outlier here, but I had all of my friends' house phones memorized in elementary, middle, and high school. I'm only a year older than your example kiddos here. I'm sure I'm not the only one who memorized numbers though, so I'd say they're the weirdos. I can still remember the ones I called the most (high school girlfriend, college girlfriend, vacation buddy, 4-5 early childhood friends, etc.) as well as our home phone lines and relatives. A lot of those numbers are presumably now out of service or belong to different people.

And yep - I had one of those phones for my "teen line" back in high school. Sort of. It was a late-90s AT&T model, though.

Eff COBOL. It's annoying and it sucks.

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Regarding China, I've had a general idea of what I plan to do there for a long time, both land war and air war.

I've built Sian to level 7 airfield, partly with the idea of using it to bomb Japan when the right time comes. But China's supply situation can't handled a major, prolonged bombing campaign (I think). So the goal will be to force John to allocate fighters to Japan as soon as possible.

(I think the Allies seriously considered using China airfields in a major way during the war, though eventually scaling that back due to supply.)

On the land war, that depends on developments yet to come.

You might be surprised [;)]. Maybe. It depends on specific numbers. But I should think that you'll be able to bomb about as often as you'd want to anyway (not every day, keep him guessing, etc.).

If the time comes for that, here's a trick: get as many LCUs into the bushes as you can. That way, they'll only eat 1-1.5x supply required and not 3x required, allowing your bases to ship supplies to each other more easily.

[Canoerebel]

3/14/44

Burma: Allies surge forward. Four IJ divisions are in bad shape now (12, 33, 59, 70) with at least one other (18, in good condition) in theater and possibly a sixth at Lashio. Part of the Japanese army's retreat path is severed. John's going to have a tough time cobbling together anew defensive line unless he brings in fresh units and good fighters. That's going to be hard for him to do, I think, when Fun House gets underway.

DEI: The Japanese air force suffers a stringing repulse at Watampone, where 80 good fighters beat up about 100 Franks. A week ago, I thought John's army would move forward rapidly enough to threaten to wipe out the Allied units in Celebes. But thus far no movement dots at all. I reluctantly left Celebes alone in order to send Death Star to the Coral Sea on a mission important enough to overshadow Celebes. Now there's increasing room for hope that both missions are possible.

Fun House: On schedule for March 20 departure date.

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: JeffK

I never get lost, except onetime when I visited the Northern Hemisphere [8D]

My memory of Oz was you just keep the local ocean on the left, go clockwise, and eventually you run across all the cities that matter.

[Bullwinkle58]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna


Maybe I'm an outlier here, but I had all of my friends' house phones memorized in elementary, middle, and high school. I'm only a year older than your example kiddos here. I'm sure I'm not the only one who memorized numbers though, so I'd say they're the weirdos. I can still remember the ones I called the most (high school girlfriend, college girlfriend, vacation buddy, 4-5 early childhood friends, etc.) as well as our home phone lines and relatives. A lot of those numbers are presumably now out of service or belong to different people.

You are the outlier here. [:'(] I found it faster to ride my banana bike over to their houses than to call and go through the Mom Filter.

And yep - I had one of those phones for my "teen line" back in high school. Sort of. It was a late-90s AT&T model, though.

Pfft. By the late 90s they looked like Star Trek. I'm talking big brick. Rest-it-on-the-couch brick.

Eff COBOL. It's annoying and it sucks.

Especially when you drop the shoebox full of cards.

[Reg]

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Nothing sensitive posted but comment taken down in the interests of staying a neutral observer. [;)]


CR, I think you are doing very well by the way. A very entertaining AAR. [:)]

[Canoerebel]

For months, I've had a CV TF that on a particular screen shows substantially less aircraft than it really has. All the carriers in this TF were under maximum plane load and none were carrying "invalid" aircraft (like the F4U). So all "looked right." But each time I clicked on the "See All Task Forces" button on the lower left hand side of the screen it underreported this TF.

There were two fighter squadrons on her and both had low fatigue (3 and 5). Their range settings are "0", so I think they were indeed flying CAP.

Today I tested each carrier independently and isolated the troublemaker - USS Olustee (a re-named Essex class). She had 99 aircraft in four squadrons. All aircraft types were eligible. I pulled off one squadron at a time and she still underreported on the button. When she had no squadrons left, I sent a TBF with 9 aircraft (from a CVE). This time she reported "0" aircraft.

I don't think there's any problem with Olustee. I think she's flying normal ops. But the underreporting has me a bit spooked. I'd hate to steam into battle with one carrier not flying ops.

Anyone run into anything like this before?

I'll post a screen or two from a few turns back to show the problem.

[Canoerebel]

The TF in question is 631. This screen shows 177 aircraft. But the TF consists of

CV Olustee: 100
CV Kettle Creek: 76
CVL Independence: 32
CVL Brandywine: 36

There are also a few floatplanes on a BB and CA.

Next I'll post a screenshot of Olustee.