Admiral's Edition General Thread

[1275psi]

Oh, I remember Kmbalamo (tm) now[:D][:D][:D][:D]

Thanks for the reminder[:)][:)][:)]

[Skyland]

Is there any change in the "Devices" list of description parameters vs witp ?

Thanks 

[Alikchi2]

Idle question. I know you guys have added a lot of useful information to the combat report. Is there any chance it will take note of the weather during combats?

Frex...


Day Air attack on Imphal , at 33,26
Partly Cloudy

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 14
Ki-30 Ann x 29
Ki-32 Mary x 24
Ki-21 Sally x 6
Ki-48 Lily x 11
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-32 Mary: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 16

[Yamato hugger]

ORIGINAL: Alikchi

Idle question. I know you guys have added a lot of useful information to the combat report. Is there any chance it will take note of the weather during combats?

Its in there. My latest run on PH:

Morning Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 68
B5N2 Kate x 144
D3A1 Val x 126


Allied aircraft
P-36A Mohawk x 1


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 6 destroyed, 11 damaged
D3A1 Val: 7 destroyed, 12 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-36A Mohawk: 1 damaged
P-36A Mohawk: 13 destroyed on ground
B-17D Fortress: 6 destroyed on ground
P-40B Warhawk: 18 destroyed on ground
B-18A Bolo: 15 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 21 destroyed on ground
O-47: 3 destroyed on ground
SBD-1 Dauntless: 11 destroyed on ground
C-33: 1 destroyed on ground
B-17E Fortress: 3 destroyed on ground
R3D: 1 destroyed on ground
A-20A Havoc: 6 destroyed on ground
P-26A: 2 destroyed on ground
F4F-3 Wildcat: 3 destroyed on ground
SNJ-3 Texan: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
DM Gamble, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 13, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires
DM Pruitt, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 14, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 17, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 17, Torpedo hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB California, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DMS Wasmuth, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Monaghan, Bomb hits 1
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 12, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
SS Tautog, Bomb hits 1
CL Helena, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
AV Tangier, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Schley, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Chew, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
PT-24, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
CL Honolulu, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Henley, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AM Rail, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 3
PG Sacramento, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
AR Medusa, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Phelps, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DM Sicard, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAP St. Mihel, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AE Mauna Loa, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Allen, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
AV Wright, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DMS Trevor, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
CL Detroit, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DM Preble, Bomb hits 1
AV Curtiss, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
AM Grebe, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AMc Redbird, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Florence D., Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Case, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD Downes, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Raleigh, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1
SS Cachalot, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CM Oglala, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 5 (0 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Repair Shipyard hits 7
Airbase hits 59
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 195

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x A6M2 Zero attacking from 100 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
17 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
15 x A6M2 Zero attacking from 100 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
5 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
City Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
25 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
8 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
City Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
18 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
17 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
17 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
25 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
26 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
20 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
9 x D3A1 Val diving from 10000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
15th PG/46th PS with P-36A Mohawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 of CAP not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all planes to intercept is 22 minutes

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to arrival is 34 minutes

[Alikchi2]

Fantastic! Thank you sir! [&o]

[John Lansford]

Ok, how did Tennessee and Maryland get hit with torpedoes in that attack??  [:)]
 
That was one devastating raid; if the IJN had accomplished all that in the real life attack the USN would have been much worse off than they really were.  They even torpedoed a PT boat!  Fortunately the AE's that were hit must have been unloaded, or the collateral damage would have been spectacular...

[RevRick]

ORIGINAL: John Lansford

Ok, how did Tennessee and Maryland get hit with torpedoes in that attack??  [:)]

That was one devastating raid; if the IJN had accomplished all that in the real life attack the USN would have been much worse off than they really were.  They even torpedoed a PT boat!  Fortunately the AE's that were hit must have been unloaded, or the collateral damage would have been spectacular...

Not only that, but they got 75% accuracy with the number of hits, or they had a lot more than 48 special torpedoes. Add to the Pennsylvania got hit in the dry dock (special jumping torpedoes called the flying fish, I guess, or I didn't get the message that they had cruise missiles at Pearl....

I just hope that the equally probable chance that the IJN doesn't launch a single torpedo is present. I have had that happen at least three times in more than a dozen 07Dec41 starts just to see what happened.. Wouldn't that be a kick in the keister for someone playing the IJN.. All they did was let the air out of the top of those old ladies, and none of the water in the bottom.

[John Lansford]

Actually, according to the list at the end of the report, only 42 planes carried torpedoes, so they got an 88% hit rate.  That's pretty good shooting...

[Shark7]

But they are shooting at ships that aren't moving at all.

[Splinterhead]

During the real attack they scored around 50% or slightly less at ships that weren't moving at all.


While we're at it, does anybody know how many of the 800kg bombs hit IRL? They seem to have been very innacurate. I know 2 hit Maryland and bounced, one hit Arizona and didn't, and one I think hit West Virginia, out of 50?

[Barb]

I am more interesting in the allied planes involved [X(]
O-47: 3 destroyed on ground
C-33: 1 destroyed on ground
R3D: 1 destroyed on ground
SNJ-3 Texan: 1 destroyed on ground
[&o]
(also the USN was hit very heavy!)

[Mike Solli]

ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 5 (0 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)


CAP engaged:
15th PG/46th PS with P-36A Mohawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 of CAP not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all planes to intercept is 22 minutes

Isn't the info above a bit much intel for the Japanese? How much of this are they going to know given an air attack?

[Yamato hugger]

ORIGINAL: John Lansford

Ok, how did Tennessee and Maryland get hit with torpedoes in that attack??  [:)]

Interesting that you didnt ask about the 5 torps the Penns took in drydock [:D]

[Yamato hugger]

ORIGINAL: Barb

I am more interesting in the allied planes involved [X(]
O-47: 3 destroyed on ground
C-33: 1 destroyed on ground
R3D: 1 destroyed on ground
SNJ-3 Texan: 1 destroyed on ground
[&o]
(also the USN was hit very heavy!)

Actually I got off light on this run. Only lost 2 BBs a PT and a coastal minesweeper total on the map (lost 306 airplanes however). None of the ships remaining are close to sinking. Ive seen it far worse. Repulse took 1 torp and PoW took 3 (shes hurt but not in immediate danger).

[Yamato hugger]

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 5 (0 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)


CAP engaged:
15th PG/46th PS with P-36A Mohawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 of CAP not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all planes to intercept is 22 minutes

Isn't the info above a bit much intel for the Japanese? How much of this are they going to know given an air attack?

Jap recon would tell what the CAP patrol altitude is. Signal intel would keep track of units. I see nothing wrong with this. But then, whos to say how much of this info is in there for de-bugging purposes and will be taken out of the final? I have no idea.

Edit: Not to mention FoW. I have seen 1 run where it was "reported" that the Colorado was sunk at Pearl on Dec 7! I mean look at guns above: Guns lost 5 (0 destroyed, 7 disabled) - there is FoW going on.

[Mike Solli]

Ok, I can live with that.  Thanks.

[buzzz123]

Yeah, assuming FOW is on, then this is great. VERY likely that about 88% of returning pilots would report hits (considering the chaos of the day), and this explains the 'hits' on the drydocked BBs as well.
 
Would be interesting to see the same combat report from the Allied perspective though.

[Yamato hugger]

Heh, that WAS the allied [X(]

[foliveti]

Does that mean there are different reports for Japanese and allied players now?

[Yamato hugger]

Yes.