AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jul 27, 43
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Submarine attack near Saidor at 99,123
Japanese Ships
SS RO-36, hits 21, and is sunk
Allied Ships
BB Indiana
CA Houston
CLAA San Juan
CLAA Juneau
CLAA Atlanta
DD Abbot
DD Jenkins
SS RO-36 is sighted by escort
DD Jenkins attacking submerged sub ....
SS RO-36 forced to surface!
DD Jenkins firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves
the enemy loses one of his second class subs as my fleet moves through the same hex... getting the info about BB Indiana being in the hex sure has alerted my opponent... this group is going North together with all my available carriers in the area, some ASW groups and a big convoy... resupply/reinforcements, no invasion but I guess the KB will set sail...
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Sub attack near Fukue-jima at 100,59
Japanese Ships
E Kiji
DD Okikaze
E Kamo
Allied Ships
SS Halibut
SS Halibut launches 6 torpedoes at E Kiji
Halibut diving deep ....
DD Okikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
E Kamo fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Okikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Okikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Okikaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Okikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Okikaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
guess? yes, duds...
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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 40,750 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 18
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
18 x A6M3a Zero sweeping at 36750 feet
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Morning Air attack on 9th Chinese Corps, at 59,60
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 44 NM, estimated altitude 40,750 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 30
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
30 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 36750 feet
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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 41,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 15
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 38500 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Prachuap Khiri Khan , at 54,64
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 43 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 2
Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
19 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet
CAP engaged:
24th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 36750
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
caught some Oscars... Oscars can be used in sweeps as they work quite well in this role, also for escorts if you need some "throwaways" but they are definetely not suited for Cap...
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Morning Air attack on 9th Chinese Corps, at 59,60
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 39,740 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 22
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 36740 feet *
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Selaroe at 77,120
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 6
Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
LCT-67
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A6M5 Zero bombing from 100 feet
Naval Attack: 3 plane(s) with no ordnance
CAP engaged:
VMF-216 with F4U-1 Corsair (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36800
Raid is overhead
VMF-441 with F4U-1 Corsair (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36800
Raid is overhead
this time we had some LRCAP over the landing crafts... this wasn´t as surprising as the BS that turned out during the replay... the engagement started with: Zero diving on Corsair! What??? Ok, let´s look at the situation... we have Zekes coming in with bombs to attack barges at 100ft and we have Corsairs 36700 ft higher... lol, that all this isn´t realistic aside, how on Earth can the game come up with "Zero diving on Corsair"? This went on for quite some time and the Corsairs were lucky to even down one of the Zekes in the end...
this also explains the oh so great and new "advice" by one of my favourite forum members who came up with the idea of "if your enemy goes higher, then you should go lower"... now 100ft is as low as you can go in the game and this then results in the 100ft fighters diving on the 36800ft fighters... lol, as much a flaw as the strato bombing in WITP that got into a "negative" alt and you achieved insane hitrates from somewhere around 40000ft... this got fixed in WITP IIRC but this thing here is more than funny... and it also once again makes me only shaking my head about a IMO stupid advice of going lower when the enemy is going higher... beating one "exploit" with another? Could be acceptable, problem only is that my favourite forum member probably thinks it wouldn´t be an exploit but one of his great "fantasy tactics". lol... [:o]
I would love to hear the "reality explanation" when the Corsairs dove down like a comet, passing the 100ft and as soon as they were at 99ft, the Zekes were then diving on them... lol... no, lol, is the wrong term here... the single Zeke that was downed was shot down after the dive... during the dive, the Zekes were unbeatable, we didn´t get a shot at them...
the Zekes jettisoned their bombs, that´s a real nice new feature that came with AE...
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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIb Sally x 25
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 65
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 damaged
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 58
Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21-IIb Sally bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
11 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
29 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
even in severe storms and with reduced loads these IJAAF bombers work just fine... better than my 4Es when talking about hit rates... can´t get better 4E crews as I´ve got now as they´ve all flown hundreds of combat missions already so they won´t get any better...
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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 18
No Japanese losses
Runway hits 3
Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
this one failed completely though...
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Morning Air attack on Vinh , at 65,59
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 39,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 2
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar sweeping at 38500 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Hollandia , at 93,116
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 11
Mitchell II x 15
B-17F Fortress x 14
B-24D Liberator x 34
B-25C Mitchell x 29
Allied aircraft losses
Mitchell II: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged
Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 78
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Mitchell II bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x Hudson I bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
15 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
11 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x Mitchell II bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
the fact that we´re also bombing Hollandia surely makes our opponent think our fleet is coming in for an invasion...
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Morning Air attack on Hollandia , at 93,116
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Allied aircraft
Mitchell II x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Mitchell II bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Prachuap Khiri Khan , at 54,64
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Liberator II x 15
Liberator GR.III x 12
B-17E Fortress x 27
B-24D1 Liberator x 28
Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 113
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x Liberator GR.III bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 250 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
our US B-24 hardly ever achieve what our bombers in Burma are able to do... extremely good result for a thunderstorm attack...
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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 48
P-40K Warhawk x 20
Allied aircraft losses
B-25D1 Mitchell: 3 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
16 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
Also attacking 55th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 14th Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 55th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 14th Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 55th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 14th Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 55th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 14th Naval Construction Battalion ...
Also attacking 4th Division ...
Also attacking 55th JNAF AF Unit ...
Also attacking 14th Naval Construction Battalion ...
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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-25D1 Mitchell x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 4
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 100 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Hollandia , at 93,116
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 11
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 18
Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Prachuap Khiri Khan , at 54,64
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 2
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses
No Allied losses
Runway hits 8
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
24th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36750
Raid is overhead
then some Oscars show up... no threat for B-17...
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Morning Air attack on Hollandia , at 93,116
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 9
F4U-1 Corsair x 7
Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged
Runway hits 12
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Hollandia , at 93,116
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 8
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged
Runway hits 10
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 14th Naval Construction Battalion, at 106,125 (Rabaul)
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 1
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Prachuap Khiri Khan , at 54,64
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 4
Allied aircraft
B-24D1 Liberator x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 7
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
CAP engaged:
24th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 36750
Raid is overhead
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Morning Air attack on 4th Division, at 106,125 (Rabaul)
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 12
P-40K Warhawk x 1
Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Prachuap Khiri Khan , at 54,64
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 42,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 9
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet
3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet
3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet
the usual 3x3 lost fragments of three fighter squadrons on sweep... sorry guys, but this is just a joke all the time... takes away lot of a realistic feeling IMO... things like this just didn´t happen 98% of the time in real life with 100% looking alike every time it happens...
aircraft got lost. fighters, bombers, all types... but 3 of each squadron in more or less every mission flown by our fighters? no, this did not happen. this is just plain stupid and I doubt that this was the original intention... all this "strike coordination" and "strike package" routines are nothing but the old WITP routines with a "screw up by default" built in it seems... and it´s just too consistent... yeah, 3 fighters lost in more or less every sweep we fly... and the sweeps going in more or less alone all the time... mhm...
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Morning Air attack on 9th Chinese Corps, at 59,60
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 39,740 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 36740 feet *
nothing different for the enemy at all... nice routine...
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Morning Air attack on Prachuap Khiri Khan , at 54,64
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes
Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 22
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet
ahhh... while the "lost" three fighters arrived with 2x3 lost fighters of the other squadrons, here comes the main part of the second squadron... [8|]
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Morning Air attack on Prachuap Khiri Khan , at 54,64
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 42,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 22
No Allied losses
Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet
and the main part (less 3 lost fighters) of the third squadron... sorry, but this has had to come up during beta testing too... who really thinks that this is working ok, or even well? what a fart... please remember that these P-38 squadrons are the creme de la creme of Allied land based fighters on the map... these squadrons got more aces than non aces... with hundreds of missions flown, pilots with 20 kills... they wouldn´t get "lost" in every mission you know... they WOULDN´T...
as we´ve lost a sub to air asw today, I thought it would be worth taking a look at our sub losses... it´s nearly 8/43 and the losses are.... light... out of 14 Allied subs lost in total, 2 were sunk in port on 12/7/41 and 2 were sunk by mines during the time when subs still reacted into ports with spotted minefields.
Means it leaves us with 10 subs sunk by other causes. 1 was sunk by an enemy sub, 1 by air ASW and 8 by enemy escorts using depth charges. Looking at this screen and at the date, this must be quite depressing for every Japanese player. While I have several subs knocked out every week, they usually make it home easily, being patched up in no time. It´s only the travel time that mostly hurts. But having subs sunk? A really rare event.
I really respect the enemy E escorts and probably going to fear the E types in 44 with their 11 and even higher ASW value but until then, the IJN can be considered helpless in terms of sinking our subs. How many US subs were lost in real life? Around 50 due to different causes? As it stands now, if the IJN can´t increase their ASW efforts then it gets rather hard to see 50 Allied subs being sunk. But who knows, other players report real heavy sub losses from 44 on.
