Hmm, I know I sound like a broken record and the only reason I'm speaking up is that if the Tinian invasion fails I could see this game simply ending as the Allies won't be able to rescue their troops and "try again". But why try to close Guam 50% and Saipan 40%? Those %es will guarantee that both airfields will be able to fly CAP tomorrow and Land-based CAP has been what has slaughtered your bombers before.
Would it not be more efficient to fully close Guam today and then sweep Saipan tomorrow with your carrier air before sending in the carrier-based bombers and B-29s... Your decision obviously but 50% closure of an airfield doesn't prevent CAP and so gives Pauk the choice of setting up an all-out CAP effort over one or other of the bases and greatly damaging your forces in a day's time. I know if I was the Japanese player and saw you splitting your effort I'd pick one base, send every fighter I had in and figure that every fighter I had would have a good chance of standing and winning when you split your force again between two targets the next day. If on the other hand I saw 2 airbases closed down on 2 consecutive days and knew that on the 3rd day the 3rd one would be closed I would be VERY reluctant to send fighters in against your massed strikes as Japan just doesn't win "all or nothing" battles in 1944 if the Allied player keeps pouring it on.
Andy Mac ...... Revenge of the Allies
Moderators: wdolson, Don Bowen, mogami
RE: Akita Burns
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Well, that's that settled then.
Well, that's that settled then.
RE: Akita Burns
The issue is this Nemo my BB's are one shot weapons if I use them to close the AF to early then his masses of engineers will repair them and I will face the situation you are describing without a key weapon these are level 7 AF's therefore I need 85% or > AF Damage to keep them closed to CAP this is almost impossible to do other than by steady attrition - I need to hit each base multiple time to not only build AF damage up but also to kill the engineer squads.
I know he hasnt sent in CAP today and I know that I have 2 BB Sqns in reserve to close an AF if I need to (or 1 plus the Iowa Gp to clear the way).
80% of my carrier bombers are hitting Guam AF tomorrow supported by 2 Sqns on B29's this should hit it hard
20% are hitting Tinian to keep the damage levels high supported by 2 Sqns of 29's and a BB bombardment
6 Sqns on B29's are hitting Saipan AF.
I have to accept that I cannot totally close all three permanemtly its not possible if I concentrate on more than 1 I can get damage up to the 50 - 60% level on them all and then that puts them in range for say a Night B29 raid to close or cripple one and for my BB's to close the other.
What I am saying is yes I can close them for a day or two but with my shredded 29's and BB's so far from Wake I cannot keep them closed therefore I need to play a cagey game and lift the damage levels day after day.
Basically this is a war of attrition and I need to keep on him
I know he hasnt sent in CAP today and I know that I have 2 BB Sqns in reserve to close an AF if I need to (or 1 plus the Iowa Gp to clear the way).
80% of my carrier bombers are hitting Guam AF tomorrow supported by 2 Sqns on B29's this should hit it hard
20% are hitting Tinian to keep the damage levels high supported by 2 Sqns of 29's and a BB bombardment
6 Sqns on B29's are hitting Saipan AF.
I have to accept that I cannot totally close all three permanemtly its not possible if I concentrate on more than 1 I can get damage up to the 50 - 60% level on them all and then that puts them in range for say a Night B29 raid to close or cripple one and for my BB's to close the other.
What I am saying is yes I can close them for a day or two but with my shredded 29's and BB's so far from Wake I cannot keep them closed therefore I need to play a cagey game and lift the damage levels day after day.
Basically this is a war of attrition and I need to keep on him
RE: Akita Burns
I guess the one other point is remember my intel advantage if pauk reinforces with heavy CAP I will know about it - it is a Japanese disadvantage that bit red AF icon but in this case its not totally unreasonable as I have surface sqns in each base with radar so I would know if decided to ship in 300+ fighters to contest the air.
RE: Akita Burns
Have you though about a lateral move to take Woleai, Ulithi, or something in B29 range of the Marianas, that might be lightly defended ?
That would help you to unload the burden of suppresing three bases by using more B29/24 and Tac bombers
That would help you to unload the burden of suppresing three bases by using more B29/24 and Tac bombers
RE: Akita Burns
Unfortuantely I dont have much in the way of combat power and I made no progress in SWPAC so it would mean having the Marianas at my back and only my carriers to keep them quiet - nice idea but not doable I need to concentrate on Marianas alone for now
RE: Akita Burns
The biggest mistake I made was my diversion off of Java was so effective that I didnt dare send the slow battlewagons of the eastern fleet towards the Marianas.
If I had another 8 BB's and a lot of CA's in CENTPAC just now this would be a different battle where I would be round the clock bombarding.
I have ordered a Battle Sqn centred on Warspite, Valient, QE and 2 older US BB's to depart Colombo
A second fast Sqn with Repulse, Mass and 10 CA's (mixed RN/USN) departed three days ago but its a long way to go.
In total over 50 warships including 2 CVE's, 1 CVL and 7 BB/BC's in en route but it will take time - and time is a commodity I dont have much of I must assume that after pauk has had two or three days to rest his fighters and repair damaged one he will be back that gives me that 2 or 3 days to rearm with hellcats and close those AF's
Andy
If I had another 8 BB's and a lot of CA's in CENTPAC just now this would be a different battle where I would be round the clock bombarding.
I have ordered a Battle Sqn centred on Warspite, Valient, QE and 2 older US BB's to depart Colombo
A second fast Sqn with Repulse, Mass and 10 CA's (mixed RN/USN) departed three days ago but its a long way to go.
In total over 50 warships including 2 CVE's, 1 CVL and 7 BB/BC's in en route but it will take time - and time is a commodity I dont have much of I must assume that after pauk has had two or three days to rest his fighters and repair damaged one he will be back that gives me that 2 or 3 days to rearm with hellcats and close those AF's
Andy
RE: Akita Burns
OK an update my operations went as planned I got a good bombardment on Tinian and I think all three are now shut.
A problem though my fleet carriers are not moving they keep chugging at 4 hexes despite being ordered to sprint 12 !!!!
Lexington ate two torps today in the gap so thats potentially 90 Hellcats out of my TOE bloody annoying - she should make it but you can never be sure.
Superforts ordered to hit Guam
Carrier Air hitting Saipan but the carriers are moving closer to Wake in order to replenish fighters as my bridge is now shut.
Andy
A problem though my fleet carriers are not moving they keep chugging at 4 hexes despite being ordered to sprint 12 !!!!
Lexington ate two torps today in the gap so thats potentially 90 Hellcats out of my TOE bloody annoying - she should make it but you can never be sure.
Superforts ordered to hit Guam
Carrier Air hitting Saipan but the carriers are moving closer to Wake in order to replenish fighters as my bridge is now shut.
Andy
RE: Akita Burns
Guys I have made a HUGE mistake I am on the edge of my seat.
Last turn Pauk tried an ambush but Guam and Saipan are still closed...
BUT in a fit of what I can only call madness I ordered my last two BB TF's in to hit Tinian and ordered my fleet to 1 hex from Tinian on Ground Attack with Superforts hitting the base's AF
So far so good
I also ordered a SHock Attack.
BUT in my guts I 'know' that Pauk is sending in KB this turn I just know it dont ask me how or why but 3 seconds after I sent the turn I realised this is the end of my fleet - oh crap what have I done oh crap oh crap...
KB and his surface fleet are incoming and my fleet is going down....
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/02/44
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32
Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 44
A6M3a Zero x 24
B5N Kate x 8
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 44
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 36
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 39
Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
10 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
34 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
24 x A6M3a Zero bombing at 2000 feet
26 x J2M Jack bombing at 2000 feet
18 x J2M Jack bombing at 2000 feet
8 x B5N Kate bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32
Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 33
P1Y Frances x 25
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 36
Ki-21 Sally x 81
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
61 casualties reported
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 103
Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
36 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
19 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
9 x P1Y Frances bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
6 x P1Y Frances bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
29 x J1N1-S Irving bombing at 2000 feet
10 x P1Y Frances bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x J1N1-S Irving bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32
Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 36
No Japanese losses
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-45 KAIa Nick bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32
Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 27
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 107
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 36
Ki-21 Sally x 23
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 100
Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
32 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
35 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
24 x J1N1-S Irving bombing at 2000 feet
4 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x J1N1-S Irving bombing at 2000 feet
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
36 x Ki-45 KAIa Nick bombing at 2000 feet
10 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 27
P1Y Frances x 54
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 23
Aircraft Attacking:
24 x A6M3a Zero bombing at 2000 feet
15 x P1Y Frances bombing at 12000 feet
18 x P1Y Frances bombing at 12000 feet
9 x P1Y Frances bombing at 12000 feet
9 x P1Y Frances bombing at 12000 feet
3 x A6M3a Zero bombing at 2000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 12000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chengtu , at 41,29
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 9
A6M3a Zero x 17
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 3 damaged
A6M3a Zero: 2 damaged
Runway hits 2
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
17 x A6M3a Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chengtu , at 41,29
Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 22
Ki-21 Sally x 28
Ki-49 Helen x 53
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 2 damaged
Allied ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 54
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
21 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
13 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
12 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
8 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 22
Liberator VI x 66
B-25J Mitchell x 104
B-24J Liberator x 28
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 273
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
15 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
18 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
10 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30
Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 81
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 124
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30
Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIF x 6
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 3
No Allied losses
Runway hits 2
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Beaufighter VIF bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30
Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 1
No Allied losses
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Day Air attack on Saipan , at 63,64
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 23
J2M Jack x 18
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 49
F4U-1 Corsair x 4
F6F-5N Hellcat x 9
TBM Avenger x 192
Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 14 destroyed
J2M Jack: 21 destroyed
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 19 destroyed, 2 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed
F6F-5N Hellcat: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
TBM Avenger: 14 destroyed, 14 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 37
Aircraft Attacking:
14 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
15 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
17 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
14 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
14 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
7 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
5 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
5 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
5 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
5 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
5 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Saipan , at 63,64
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 13
J2M Jack x 3
Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 6
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 4 damaged
Runway hits 2
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65
Japanese aircraft
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 46
Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 2
SB2C Helldiver x 128
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 7 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 26 destroyed, 10 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 29
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
22 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
15 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
27 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
11 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65
Japanese aircraft
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 46
Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 2
SB2C Helldiver x 128
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 7 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 26 destroyed, 10 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 29
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
22 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
15 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
27 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
11 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65
Japanese aircraft
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 21
Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 5 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Runway hits 2
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
1 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Guam , at 62,66
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 55
Japanese aircraft losses
H8K Emily: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 2 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
120 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 53
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
7 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kwajalein , at 79,79
Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 3
B-24J Liberator x 5
Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged
Runway hits 4
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 9th Chinese Corps, at 44,32
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
A6M5 Zeke x 17
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 36
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 46
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
36 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
36 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
27 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
17 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 9th Chinese Corps, at 44,32
Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 9
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x J2M Jack bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 38th Chinese Corps, at 43,37
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 27
J2M Jack x 22
A6M3a Zero x 24
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 32
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 32
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
32 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
24 x A6M3a Zero bombing at 2000 feet
27 x N1K1-J George bombing at 2000 feet
22 x J2M Jack bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 38th Chinese Corps, at 43,37
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
N1K1-J George x 33
A6M3a Zero x 24
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 91
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
28 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
31 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
32 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
24 x A6M3a Zero bombing at 2000 feet
14 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
12 x N1K1-J George bombing at 2000 feet
21 x N1K1-J George bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 93rd Chinese Division, at 29,31
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 9
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 81st Chinese Corps, at 44,32
Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 23
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 29
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 25
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
29 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
25 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
23 x J2M Jack bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 49th/A Division, at 33,30
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 10
Thunderbolt II x 8
Mosquito FB.VI x 32
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 5
P-40N Warhawk x 30
P-47C Thunderbolt x 21
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
154 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
Vehicles lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
5 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Mosquito FB.VI bombing at 2000 feet
12 x Mosquito FB.VI bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Mosquito FB.VI bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Mosquito FB.VI bombing at 2000 feet
8 x Thunderbolt II bombing at 2000 feet
21 x P-47C Thunderbolt bombing at 2000 feet
15 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 49th/A Division, at 33,30
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 3
Liberator VI x 15
B-25J Mitchell x 3
B-24J Liberator x 6
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 110th/B Division, at 33,30
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 7
Thunderbolt II x 8
B-25J Mitchell x 34
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
62 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Thunderbolt II bombing at 2000 feet
34 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
7 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 110th/B Division, at 33,30
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 6
Liberator VI x 17
B-25J Mitchell x 5
B-24J Liberator x 6
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
5 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 49th/B Division, at 33,30
Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 6
P-40N Warhawk x 16
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
16 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 49th/B Division, at 33,30
Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 12
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 2
B-25J Mitchell x 3
B-24J Liberator x 3
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30
Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 1
No Allied losses
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Day Air attack on TF at 67,64
Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 5
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 153
F4U-1 Corsair x 11
F4U-1D Corsair x 24
Corsair IV x 1
F6F-5N Hellcat x 64
Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF at 67,64
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 8
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 153
F4U-1 Corsair x 11
F4U-1D Corsair x 24
Corsair IV x 1
F6F-5N Hellcat x 64
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF at 71,64
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 12
P1Y Frances x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged
P1Y Frances: 3 damaged
Allied Ships
CVE Barnes, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 71,64
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 12
P1Y Frances x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged
P1Y Frances: 3 damaged
Allied Ships
CVE Barnes, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Ground combat at Mandalay
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 172090 troops, 1017 guns, 1451 vehicles, Assault Value = 3517
Defending force 91934 troops, 672 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 1917
Japanese ground losses:
448 casualties reported
Guns lost 11
Ground combat at Mandalay
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 172090 troops, 1017 guns, 1451 vehicles, Assault Value = 3517
Defending force 91934 troops, 672 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 1917
Japanese ground losses:
448 casualties reported
Guns lost 11
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Ground combat at 26,40
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 51907 troops, 579 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2668
Defending force 76762 troops, 761 guns, 612 vehicles, Assault Value = 1550
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Tinian
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 222675 troops, 1787 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 4342
Defending force 128497 troops, 999 guns, 148 vehicles, Assault Value = 2766
Japanese ground losses:
126 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Last turn Pauk tried an ambush but Guam and Saipan are still closed...
BUT in a fit of what I can only call madness I ordered my last two BB TF's in to hit Tinian and ordered my fleet to 1 hex from Tinian on Ground Attack with Superforts hitting the base's AF
So far so good
I also ordered a SHock Attack.
BUT in my guts I 'know' that Pauk is sending in KB this turn I just know it dont ask me how or why but 3 seconds after I sent the turn I realised this is the end of my fleet - oh crap what have I done oh crap oh crap...
KB and his surface fleet are incoming and my fleet is going down....
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/02/44
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32
Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 44
A6M3a Zero x 24
B5N Kate x 8
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 44
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 36
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 39
Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
10 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
34 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
24 x A6M3a Zero bombing at 2000 feet
26 x J2M Jack bombing at 2000 feet
18 x J2M Jack bombing at 2000 feet
8 x B5N Kate bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32
Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 33
P1Y Frances x 25
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 36
Ki-21 Sally x 81
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
61 casualties reported
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 103
Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
36 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
19 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
9 x P1Y Frances bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
6 x P1Y Frances bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
29 x J1N1-S Irving bombing at 2000 feet
10 x P1Y Frances bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x J1N1-S Irving bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32
Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 36
No Japanese losses
Runway hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-45 KAIa Nick bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32
Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 27
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 107
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 36
Ki-21 Sally x 23
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 100
Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
32 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
35 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
24 x J1N1-S Irving bombing at 2000 feet
4 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
3 x J1N1-S Irving bombing at 2000 feet
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
36 x Ki-45 KAIa Nick bombing at 2000 feet
10 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 27
P1Y Frances x 54
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 23
Aircraft Attacking:
24 x A6M3a Zero bombing at 2000 feet
15 x P1Y Frances bombing at 12000 feet
18 x P1Y Frances bombing at 12000 feet
9 x P1Y Frances bombing at 12000 feet
9 x P1Y Frances bombing at 12000 feet
3 x A6M3a Zero bombing at 2000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 12000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chengtu , at 41,29
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 9
A6M3a Zero x 17
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 3 damaged
A6M3a Zero: 2 damaged
Runway hits 2
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
17 x A6M3a Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chengtu , at 41,29
Japanese aircraft
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 22
Ki-21 Sally x 28
Ki-49 Helen x 53
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 2 damaged
Allied ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 54
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
21 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
13 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
12 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
8 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 22
Liberator VI x 66
B-25J Mitchell x 104
B-24J Liberator x 28
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 273
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
15 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
18 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
10 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30
Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 81
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 124
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Liberator VI bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30
Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIF x 6
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 3
No Allied losses
Runway hits 2
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Beaufighter VIF bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30
Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 1
No Allied losses
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Day Air attack on Saipan , at 63,64
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 23
J2M Jack x 18
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 49
F4U-1 Corsair x 4
F6F-5N Hellcat x 9
TBM Avenger x 192
Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 14 destroyed
J2M Jack: 21 destroyed
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 19 destroyed, 2 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed
F6F-5N Hellcat: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
TBM Avenger: 14 destroyed, 14 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 37
Aircraft Attacking:
14 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
15 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
17 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
14 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
14 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
7 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
5 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
5 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
5 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
5 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
5 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
6 x TBM Avenger bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Saipan , at 63,64
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 13
J2M Jack x 3
Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 6
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 4 damaged
Runway hits 2
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65
Japanese aircraft
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 46
Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 2
SB2C Helldiver x 128
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 7 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 26 destroyed, 10 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 29
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
22 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
15 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
27 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
11 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65
Japanese aircraft
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 46
Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 2
SB2C Helldiver x 128
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 7 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 26 destroyed, 10 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 29
Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
22 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
15 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
27 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
11 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Tinian , at 62,65
Japanese aircraft
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 21
Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 6
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 5 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Runway hits 2
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
1 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Guam , at 62,66
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
B-29 Superfortress x 55
Japanese aircraft losses
H8K Emily: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-29 Superfortress: 2 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
120 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 53
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
7 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
5 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-29 Superfortress bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kwajalein , at 79,79
Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 3
B-24J Liberator x 5
Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged
Runway hits 4
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 9th Chinese Corps, at 44,32
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
A6M5 Zeke x 17
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 36
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 46
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
36 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
36 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
27 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
17 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 9th Chinese Corps, at 44,32
Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 9
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x J2M Jack bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 38th Chinese Corps, at 43,37
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 27
J2M Jack x 22
A6M3a Zero x 24
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 32
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 32
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
32 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
24 x A6M3a Zero bombing at 2000 feet
27 x N1K1-J George bombing at 2000 feet
22 x J2M Jack bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 38th Chinese Corps, at 43,37
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
N1K1-J George x 33
A6M3a Zero x 24
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 91
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
28 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
31 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
32 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
24 x A6M3a Zero bombing at 2000 feet
14 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
12 x N1K1-J George bombing at 2000 feet
21 x N1K1-J George bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 93rd Chinese Division, at 29,31
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 9
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-43-IIa Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 81st Chinese Corps, at 44,32
Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 23
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 29
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 25
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
29 x Ki-44-IIb Tojo bombing at 2000 feet
25 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
23 x J2M Jack bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 49th/A Division, at 33,30
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 10
Thunderbolt II x 8
Mosquito FB.VI x 32
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 5
P-40N Warhawk x 30
P-47C Thunderbolt x 21
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
154 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
Vehicles lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
15 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
5 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Mosquito FB.VI bombing at 2000 feet
12 x Mosquito FB.VI bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Mosquito FB.VI bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Mosquito FB.VI bombing at 2000 feet
8 x Thunderbolt II bombing at 2000 feet
21 x P-47C Thunderbolt bombing at 2000 feet
15 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 49th/A Division, at 33,30
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 3
Liberator VI x 15
B-25J Mitchell x 3
B-24J Liberator x 6
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 110th/B Division, at 33,30
Allied aircraft
FM-2 Wildcat x 7
Thunderbolt II x 8
B-25J Mitchell x 34
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
62 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Thunderbolt II bombing at 2000 feet
34 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 6000 feet
7 x FM-2 Wildcat bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 110th/B Division, at 33,30
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 6
Liberator VI x 17
B-25J Mitchell x 5
B-24J Liberator x 6
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
84 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
5 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 49th/B Division, at 33,30
Allied aircraft
Spitfire VIII x 6
P-40N Warhawk x 16
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
16 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 49th/B Division, at 33,30
Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 12
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 2
B-25J Mitchell x 3
B-24J Liberator x 3
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Mandalay , at 33,30
Allied aircraft
F-5C Lightning x 1
No Allied losses
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Day Air attack on TF at 67,64
Japanese aircraft
P1Y Frances x 5
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 153
F4U-1 Corsair x 11
F4U-1D Corsair x 24
Corsair IV x 1
F6F-5N Hellcat x 64
Japanese aircraft losses
P1Y Frances: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF at 67,64
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 8
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 153
F4U-1 Corsair x 11
F4U-1D Corsair x 24
Corsair IV x 1
F6F-5N Hellcat x 64
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 damaged
F4U-1D Corsair: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF at 71,64
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 12
P1Y Frances x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged
P1Y Frances: 3 damaged
Allied Ships
CVE Barnes, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 71,64
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 12
P1Y Frances x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged
P1Y Frances: 3 damaged
Allied Ships
CVE Barnes, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x P1Y Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Ground combat at Mandalay
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 172090 troops, 1017 guns, 1451 vehicles, Assault Value = 3517
Defending force 91934 troops, 672 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 1917
Japanese ground losses:
448 casualties reported
Guns lost 11
Ground combat at Mandalay
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 172090 troops, 1017 guns, 1451 vehicles, Assault Value = 3517
Defending force 91934 troops, 672 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 1917
Japanese ground losses:
448 casualties reported
Guns lost 11
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Ground combat at 26,40
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 51907 troops, 579 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2668
Defending force 76762 troops, 761 guns, 612 vehicles, Assault Value = 1550
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Tinian
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 222675 troops, 1787 guns, 14 vehicles, Assault Value = 4342
Defending force 128497 troops, 999 guns, 148 vehicles, Assault Value = 2766
Japanese ground losses:
126 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Movement Issues
Guys the movement issues with TF's I have been encountering just became critical - Pauk wasnt waiting in ambush so I got awway with my recklessness yesterday.
But having realised that desperation was not yet called for I was starting to pull back because I cannot seem to trust my carriers to move properly to replenish so the only option is to pull back and rearm in total.
I was in the middle of doing this when a BB TF went off in the wrong direction I am 100% certain the orders were to remain under my carriers protection on patrol and there was nothing for them to react to. ( Checked every order for every TF several times as I know things are tough)
Anyway cest la vie three more capital ships lost - I am taking a couple of days break from this game because this was just crazy
Accordingly 3 BB' are sunk.
So far Lexington is crippled and Barnes sunk because of these isses (not to mention lots of AK's when my carriers took an extra three days to get to Wake in the 1st place) now 3 BB's I think its fair to say I am steaming I am going to do a full reinstall and hope this corrects the issues because a dangerous position off the Marianas becomes totally impossible if my TF's dont obey orders (reaction I could live with unhappily this is just crazy)
Andy
But having realised that desperation was not yet called for I was starting to pull back because I cannot seem to trust my carriers to move properly to replenish so the only option is to pull back and rearm in total.
I was in the middle of doing this when a BB TF went off in the wrong direction I am 100% certain the orders were to remain under my carriers protection on patrol and there was nothing for them to react to. ( Checked every order for every TF several times as I know things are tough)
Anyway cest la vie three more capital ships lost - I am taking a couple of days break from this game because this was just crazy
Accordingly 3 BB' are sunk.
So far Lexington is crippled and Barnes sunk because of these isses (not to mention lots of AK's when my carriers took an extra three days to get to Wake in the 1st place) now 3 BB's I think its fair to say I am steaming I am going to do a full reinstall and hope this corrects the issues because a dangerous position off the Marianas becomes totally impossible if my TF's dont obey orders (reaction I could live with unhappily this is just crazy)
Andy
RE: Movement Issues
p.s. my problems started to occur after the scattering of my transport TF's off the Marianas so I am wondering if thats whats caused this as I had over 500+ TF's on the map at that time hence my hope a reinstall will correct the issue
RE: Movement Issues
I understand you wanting to take a break. Losing 4 capital ships to a bug like that is something that would make me consider asking for a re-play of that turn.
The era of procrastination, of half-measures, of soothing and baffling expedients, of delays, is coming to a close.
In its place we are entering a period of consequences..
In its place we are entering a period of consequences..
RE: Movement Issues
I am not sure I dont mind askign for replays when its land movement issues and I have certainly offered them before in other games whe its clear its been a bug but on this case I am not sure I dont like naval redos because we have no control over other aspects - i.e. Lexingotn eating a Torpedo (although she shouldnt be there anyway)
On balance I wont ask for one but this finishes the Tinian offensive 40% of my BB's on the bottom despite very carefull preparation - what amiusing is that this is the only TF that hasnt expended its ammo yet
All my other BB TF's have already bombarded this one was the reserve TF covering the fleet incase his surfact TF's caught up with my Carriers.
Andy
On balance I wont ask for one but this finishes the Tinian offensive 40% of my BB's on the bottom despite very carefull preparation - what amiusing is that this is the only TF that hasnt expended its ammo yet
All my other BB TF's have already bombarded this one was the reserve TF covering the fleet incase his surfact TF's caught up with my Carriers.
Andy
RE: Movement Issues
Pauk has offered me a redo as an honourable opponent and I have refused.
Its just to much of a slippery slope on this stuff what happens if my carriers react in a way I dont like - its a BUG
Navy stuff is just too hard to redo fairly so absoulutely no Redo it would be unfair on so many levels.
Its just to much of a slippery slope on this stuff what happens if my carriers react in a way I dont like - its a BUG
Navy stuff is just too hard to redo fairly so absoulutely no Redo it would be unfair on so many levels.
RE: Movement Issues
OK Guys while I insist on no redo this does leave me a tricky problem
My carrier air cannot keep up with losses and I will be relying on it more to get the job done as I am now short a and with 40% of my BB's with davy jones then my choices are narrowing I dont see how I can avoid putting Marine Corsairs on my Carriers now I really wanted to avoid doing this until this batrtle was over as its unfair to change a HR like this in mid battle but I dont see much choice as this battle will be going on for a long while and I need to start using the Marine pilot pool.
I will need to discuss this with Pauk any thoughts ?
My carrier air cannot keep up with losses and I will be relying on it more to get the job done as I am now short a and with 40% of my BB's with davy jones then my choices are narrowing I dont see how I can avoid putting Marine Corsairs on my Carriers now I really wanted to avoid doing this until this batrtle was over as its unfair to change a HR like this in mid battle but I dont see much choice as this battle will be going on for a long while and I need to start using the Marine pilot pool.
I will need to discuss this with Pauk any thoughts ?
RE: Movement Issues
I don't see any problem with making this change to House Rules now.... In the Empires Ablaze mod ( Japan optimised for offensive and defensive capabilities and ONLY to be played with PDU on ) there is no restriction on Corsair use at all as I always believed Corsairs were the only Allied defence against the numbers of front-line fighters Japan can generate in '43 and '44 with PDU on.
So, this House Rule needs changing ( and always has, long before this situation arrived ) and I see no reason not to change it mid-operation.
So, this House Rule needs changing ( and always has, long before this situation arrived ) and I see no reason not to change it mid-operation.
John Dillworth: "I had GreyJoy check my spelling and he said it was fine."
Well, that's that settled then.
Well, that's that settled then.
RE: Movement Issues
Don't see any problems using Corsairs in Carriers... not after what happened.
Good luck.
Good luck.
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RE: Movement Issues
I don't see why Allied players want to have a HR restricting Corsairs on Carriers when the Japanese player gets a huge bump in the numbers they can produce that are non-historical plus the advantage of having the "training" prgram in China. In stock, you already have the low amount of naval pilots and Hellcats to overcome vs. the Japanese being able to out produce the Americans in new generation planes.
Even without these recent results, you already have one hand tied behind your back trying to take an island like Tinian. Your trying to play a game with too many historical restrictions, self imposed, IMO.
Even without these recent results, you already have one hand tied behind your back trying to take an island like Tinian. Your trying to play a game with too many historical restrictions, self imposed, IMO.
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It seems to me after such a scenario the US GHQ would have decided to change dramatically its ways, ie many houserules could be renegotiated here...
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RE: Movement Issues
Yes on this I agree and would recommend other allied PBEM player take note of Marine Corsairs on Carriers when PDU is on should be allowed certainly after 1/44 (I can still see arguments for restricting it before that) and I was a fool to limit it but to be fair how could we know the impact until we got here ?
I am a fool and I know I am a fool not to ground attack train but I just cannot bring myself to set up training 'camps' to do it - I know its not right so I wont do it.
(Dont get me wrong I am not in any way criticising any of my opponents on this point they all see it differently and I suspect most are unhappy about my AF stacking so we all have little foibles in the game that we need to live with)
As I said up front I don't like naval redos - I have a personall dislike of them as there are to many other quirks in the sea model to make it viable.
Land combat thats a different ballgame because land movement is genuinely borked sometimes but naval nah just need to go with the flow.
Lets face it guys I have been outplayed in this game so far and 3 BB's won't make much difference to that.
Andy
I am a fool and I know I am a fool not to ground attack train but I just cannot bring myself to set up training 'camps' to do it - I know its not right so I wont do it.
(Dont get me wrong I am not in any way criticising any of my opponents on this point they all see it differently and I suspect most are unhappy about my AF stacking so we all have little foibles in the game that we need to live with)
As I said up front I don't like naval redos - I have a personall dislike of them as there are to many other quirks in the sea model to make it viable.
Land combat thats a different ballgame because land movement is genuinely borked sometimes but naval nah just need to go with the flow.
Lets face it guys I have been outplayed in this game so far and 3 BB's won't make much difference to that.
Andy
RE: Movement Issues
<puts away the ganja>
Ok this mellow crap is for idiots its time to start planning the comeback !!!
Tinian will not fall quickly I think we all need to accept that now so how can I still win there.
My carriers need to inch carefully back to Wake to replenish and I need to think about where I can muster more force from.
Time to get planning
Ok this mellow crap is for idiots its time to start planning the comeback !!!
Tinian will not fall quickly I think we all need to accept that now so how can I still win there.
My carriers need to inch carefully back to Wake to replenish and I need to think about where I can muster more force from.
Time to get planning