RIDERS ON THE STORM-THANK YOU

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: mdiehl

They're nasty and gamey, but frankly I think he deserves a sound a$$ kicking.

I have to agree. The one-unit-attack resource-depletion scam seems quite gamey. I can see making a single one-unit attack if that gleaned good recon, but repeating it just to run down opfor supplies is absurd. I do hope that the AE version will frequently result in the complete annihilation of units that make these sorts of unsupported attacks, rather than rewarding an player for attacking piecemeal.

ahh... don´t say that... Trollelite needs every glitch, bug and other gamey thing to defeat the Allied weakling... [;)]

[veji1]

Come on Castor, you have to admit the HR and tactics are a bit bent in this game..

[Gen.Hoepner]

ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns

ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner
Allied max defense: 4860 - adjusted defense: 6830 * i hope my adjusted defences were better....not even doubled....[:(]...can't hope of holding[:(]

This is a good thing G. H. The more he attacks like this the higher your units experience grows at little cost to you except in supplies. Soon your units will all exceed 50% experience and then your adjusted AV will be more than doubled. Don't complain to him about these attacks, let him train your army for you, and then he'll get a nasty surprise when he finally attacks.

Track your units progress, my guess is every unit gets 2-4 experience per attack right now. In my game I trained my units up to about 55-59 experience with bombardments, and now they are holding their own on defense. 7 corps managed to withstand an attack by 8 Japanese divisions, 2 brigades, 1 tank regiment and 2 artillery regiments (check post 214 in my AAR), even though a few of them were still under 50 experience.

Japan’s non-adjusted AV was almost double my non-adjusted AV, so our overall situation is similar even though there are larger numbers of troops involved in your fight.

My units were entrenched to level 3 in forest terrain, and their adjusted AV was only 400 points less than their non-adjusted AV. So once you get half or more of your units above 50 experience, I bet your adjusted AV will better than double given your fort levels.

Jim

The experience of those troops is for the 80% of them above 50! What really is a problem is the morale, which is damned low...between 20 and 30 on average.[:(]
However the problem remains the supplies...i'm using all my bombers to re-supply Changsha but it's never enough...every day the aerial bombings and the single-unit-attack suck badly my supplies....

[Gen.Hoepner]

ORIGINAL: Feinder


Not to scare you, but keep an eye on your disablements.  Arty can cause massive disablement casualties (and the "attack with only one unit causes 2 bombardment rounds), also your supply loss (and burn more repair disablments) which could lead to capitulation.

Just be advised that he's exploiting every crack in the game at this point.  That to me is no holds barred - I'd follow only the letter of his house-rules, and take advantage of every exploit you can get your hands on : For starters divided every LCU you have in Karachi.  The damage is NOT proportionate to all sub-units (it's lesser compared to a non-divided unit).   The also recover fatigue faster.  And speaking of which, you can break-down for a turn, then reform, then break down again, and your fatigue will be less than if you had remained divided or whole (not sure why, but there's a bug in the routine there as well).

There are all sorts of nasty things you learn when you've experiented with the engine.  I don't use exploits against my opponents, because they don't exploit either.

If you'd like I can also tell you a trick or two about "fooling" the naval model as well.

They're nasty and gamey, but frankly I think he deserves a sound a$$ kicking.

-F- 

Thx mate, but i'd prefer to play it clean. I'm using divided units only if i have to use the sub-units in different hexes. If the sub unit and the parental one are in the same hex i re-unite them. Seems this is a good way of using the regimental level of this option (divide unit) and at the same time keeping the game fair.
I'm having fun all the way, no matters what he's doing (however that thing isn't contemplated in the HRs).

[Historiker]

Hey G.H, When are you going to switch the sides? [:D][;)]

[Andy Mac]

Quite right GH its worth asking him if he knows what he is doing he may not - always give the benefit of the doubt.
 
p.s. every bomber that is on naval attack is not hitting your airbase.
 
AF level x 5 + 50 is the runway level required to operate CAP
 
i.e. Karachi is lvl 6 AF ? then he needs to keep AF damage > 80 to stop your CAP flying......

[Elladan]

p.s. every bomber that is on naval attack is not hitting your airbase.

Well, that actually not true. You can always set airfield attack as a secondary mission [:)]

[Feinder]

Playing nice or not, I still think he deserves a sound a$$ kicking.   [;)]
 
-F-

[Elladan]

Nice sound ass-kicking sounds even better [:D]

[okami]

ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

ORIGINAL: Feinder


Not to scare you, but keep an eye on your disablements.  Arty can cause massive disablement casualties (and the "attack with only one unit causes 2 bombardment rounds), also your supply loss (and burn more repair disablments) which could lead to capitulation.

Just be advised that he's exploiting every crack in the game at this point.  That to me is no holds barred - I'd follow only the letter of his house-rules, and take advantage of every exploit you can get your hands on : For starters divided every LCU you have in Karachi.  The damage is NOT proportionate to all sub-units (it's lesser compared to a non-divided unit).   The also recover fatigue faster.  And speaking of which, you can break-down for a turn, then reform, then break down again, and your fatigue will be less than if you had remained divided or whole (not sure why, but there's a bug in the routine there as well).

There are all sorts of nasty things you learn when you've experiented with the engine.  I don't use exploits against my opponents, because they don't exploit either.

If you'd like I can also tell you a trick or two about "fooling" the naval model as well.

They're nasty and gamey, but frankly I think he deserves a sound a$$ kicking.

-F- 

Thx mate, but i'd prefer to play it clean. I'm using divided units only if i have to use the sub-units in different hexes. If the sub unit and the parental one are in the same hex i re-unite them. Seems this is a good way of using the regimental level of this option (divide unit) and at the same time keeping the game fair.
I'm having fun all the way, no matters what he's doing (however that thing isn't contemplated in the HRs).

With an attitude like this, you will never lack for honourable opponents GH. I agree with Castor Troy, he needs all this to even stand a chance of winning.

[1275psi]

I for one am VERY glad that Gen H is playing a honorable game -although he's not doing an AAR of it, we are involved in a very, very enjoyable game so far -and already in the first weeks I have found out, he doesn't need any nasty tricks, silly house rules or the like to play a great game.
As always - right at the start -does your opponent play to win, or play for the joy of the tussle?
Like -if trollelite actually wins -nobody is going to send him a trophy are they[8|][:D]

[Gen.Hoepner]

Sure i wanna win guys. Don't think i'm not playing for the final victory! But the journey is what matters!
It's like when you play tennis.
Your buddy may call out some balls that were in...but you can have fun all the way and enjoy the match just for what it is:a game.
However thx for your constant support. Really appreciate it. And i don't think i do deserve all those nice words....well...actually i'm getting on looking for compliments with this modesty, right?[:D]
 
Andy, Karachi is port 6 and AF 4....unfortunately[:(]
However if it holds long enough si'm planning some nasty surprises that can drive crazy my dear opponent...[;)]
 
Trollelite will be very busy for the rest of the week, so perhaps no updates untill friday.
 
Going to the disco tonight...a G.F. Mk. XI could be waiting for me hidden somewhere under the shadows on a night-club:-)...or maybe, even better a T.L. Mk. "unknown" (T.L.= temporary lover)!!![;)]...gonna be hard tomorrow waking up and going to the tribunal[>:]
 
Have a nice evening (or morning...or whatever)

[Feinder]

I'm very fortunate to have happened upon the opponenentst that I have, that don't try to exploit things. 
 
I have tested quite a few things, simply because I was curious as to how they worked.  Do that enough, and you start to discover issues that can tempt you towards the dark arts...
 
But I'll admit that Hop is better man than I.  If my initial protest of "hey that's a bit gamey don't you think..." went unheeded (esp with a smart-alleck reply), I'd skip the slow escalation of "debatable" tactics, and immediately turn to the last chapter in the playbook titled "Nasty Tricks and other things to make your opponent go WTF?"
 
I try to (mostly) use my powers for good, and not for evil tho. [:-]
 
-F-

[Fishbed]

or maybe, even better a T.L. Mk. "unknown" (T.L.= temporary lover)!!!

Well I hope you didn't get wrong with the interpretation. If T.L. stands for "Torpedo Loss" you're gonna live in a world of pain if you're on the wrong side of the torpedo...
[:D]

Anyway you're free to love who you like to, Gen'! [:'(]

[Gen.Hoepner]

ORIGINAL: Fishbed

or maybe, even better a T.L. Mk. "unknown" (T.L.= temporary lover)!!!

Well I hope you didn't get wrong with the interpretation. If T.L. stands for "Torpedo Loss" you're gonna live in a world of pain if you're on the wrong side of the torpedo...
[:D]

Anyway you're free to love who you like to, Gen'! [:'(]

Don't worry, i didn't love anybody yesterday night[:-][:-]...well, actually because there was nobody who deserved my love [:D]... old and ugly chicks all over the place and, above all...that club was a "dick-dome" yesterday night[:o][:o][:o][:o][:o][:o]. ....and however i'm not planning to be playing on the other side of torpedo anytime soon...[:D]...but i'm still young, who knows[:D]

Hope Trollelite gets back in buisness soon....i need some more witp in these days[8D]

[Gen.Hoepner]

ORIGINAL: Feinder


But I'll admit that Hop is better man than I.  ...............
-F-

You say that just because you haven't seen the monster that nests inside me, sleeping underneath my skin.....


[:D]

[cantona2]

Better  hunting next time GH
 
PS ill send you the turn in our game later, had no time yesterday

[Fishbed]

ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

ORIGINAL: Fishbed

or maybe, even better a T.L. Mk. "unknown" (T.L.= temporary lover)!!!

Well I hope you didn't get wrong with the interpretation. If T.L. stands for "Torpedo Loss" you're gonna live in a world of pain if you're on the wrong side of the torpedo...
[:D]

Anyway you're free to love who you like to, Gen'! [:'(]

Don't worry, i didn't love anybody yesterday night[:-][:-]...well, actually because there was nobody who deserved my love [:D]... old and ugly chicks all over the place and, above all...that club was a "dick-dome" yesterday night[:o][:o][:o][:o][:o][:o]. ....and however i'm not planning to be playing on the other side of torpedo anytime soon...[:D]...but i'm still young, who knows[:D]

Hope Trollelite gets back in buisness soon....i need some more witp in these days[8D]

Well anyway, I wonder who'll take you seriously from now on when it comes to women...
You'll be known as "the one who got house-ruled" all over your place.

- "Hey Cutie can I buy you a drink?"
- "Hey honey, aren't you that billard ball-head "house-rule" guy everyone knows about? M'kay, here are my houserules Tiger: you do the cleaning, the dish job, the windows, the cooking, and I may start thinking about having some torpedo lôôôôôssss time with you if you keep on being a good boy... Got it loud and clear General?"

We know that your generosity is a strength - beware anyone who may interpret it as you weakness!!! [:-]

I mean think about life with the women now...
- "Darling! Pleaaaase! I swear I'll be back there!"
- "Hoppy darling, I told you already: No Karachi, No Sex!"

[:D]

[Mistmatz]

Sounds like someone knows from own experience... [8D][;)]

[Fishbed]

ORIGINAL: Mistmatz

Sounds like someone knows from own experience... [8D][;)]

Ho man I wish I could fall in love with a woman who would reward me whenever I play a good game, not on the basis of how much money I may bring back home [:o][:D]

Look at PzB for instance - looks like being a uber-samurai player does attract beautiful and bright women. Now that's a lead we have to investigate. [&o]