Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land

[Shannon V. OKeets]

ORIGINAL: Eichenblatt

Just a quick question - will the (excellent) unit descriptions be available in some sort of archive or similar or will you be required to start a game in order to access the information on the units? I think that it would be great to have some sort of archive accessible from the start page of the game for those that just want to enjoy the graphics and descriptions of the units.

Steve et al. - keep up the great work! I am sure that this will be the finest grand strategy wargame of all times!

/Dave 

Thanks, and welcome to the forum.

Unit descriptions are in 3 files (land, air, and naval). These are simple TXT files, readable using NotePad, or a simple text editor. However, they contain embedded formating commands that are interpreted by MWIF.

It you start a game of Global War, all units can be accessed using the Units Review form and their descriptions read there - without really playing the game. The advantage of this over Notepad is that all the formating commands have been used to make the text appear the way the authors intended it to be read (e.g., with paragraphing and bullet points).

[jesperpehrson]

As Steve says they look a lot better in-game than as just plain text. The writeups are mainly for historical entertainment but I do think this is one of the largest collaborative efforts ever made for a wargame to add some nice historical flavour. I am sure you will enjoy it when you get the game in your hands!

[Eichenblatt]

Steve and capitan - Many thanks for the quick reply! I am very impressed by the way that you are handling this forum.

I understand that you are putting a lot of effort into this project and I am sure that the end result will be great!

When it comes to the unit write-ups, please make sure to proof-read the texts and make sure that they are consistent (i.e. abbreviations, decimals etc.). I think that this is quite important for the overall impression of the finished product.

Being a lawyer by trade, I am quite picky about these sorts of things... [;)]

[warspite1]

Steve

Have you heard whether Marcus is still doing the CW carriers? I checked with Andy and he has not heard. If not I am happy to take on (as you probably know!).

Thanks

Rob

[Shannon V. OKeets]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Steve

Have you heard whether Marcus is still doing the CW carriers? I checked with Andy and he has not heard. If not I am happy to take on (as you probably know!).

Thanks

Rob

Why don't you send him an email/PM? I haven't heard from him recently, but he had said he would busy until September.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Steve

Have you heard whether Marcus is still doing the CW carriers? I checked with Andy and he has not heard. If not I am happy to take on (as you probably know!).

Thanks

Rob

Why don't you send him an email/PM? I haven't heard from him recently, but he had said he would busy until September.

Warspite1

I have but heard nothing, so I thought I would check with you.

[warspite1]

Polite Request:
 
Could I ask whoever did the write up`s for the ships listed below, whether I can be allowed to amend them to bring them into line - content wise -with the other CW naval units that I am doing? Having done the work, I fully understand if you would rather not have your work changed but would appreciate it if you could let me know soonest as I am shortly "moving in to the Med" where Sydney and Perth in particular feature. It would be nice to have all the CW ships in one format but as I say, if not then no problem.
 
HMAS Adelaide       HMNZS Achilles
HMAS Hobart         HMNZS Leander
HMAS Perth
HMAS Sydney

[Shannon V. OKeets]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Polite Request:

Could I ask whoever did the write up`s for the ships listed below, whether I can be allowed to amend them to bring them into line - content wise -with the other CW naval units that I am doing? Having done the work, I fully understand if you would rather not have your work changed but would appreciate it if you could let me know soonest as I am shortly "moving in to the Med" where Sydney and Perth in particular feature. It would be nice to have all the CW ships in one format but as I say, if not then no problem.

HMAS Adelaide       HMNZS Achilles
HMAS Hobart         HMNZS Leander
HMAS Perth
HMAS Sydney

It was Mark Neiswender.

[warspite1]

In Mech in Flames there is a Canadian aircraft carrier counter - HMCS Canada. This is obviously a "what if" counter, but I would be grateful if anyone knows if its reason for inclusion is based upon a specific plan to build such a ship for/by the RCN but that was subsequently cancelled.

I can see nothing to suggest that this is the case and that the only carriers the Canadians operated were those transferred from the RN. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Thank-you

[paulderynck]

ORIGINAL: warspite1


In Mech in Flames there is a Canadian aircraft carrier counter - HMCS Canada. This is obviously a "what if" counter, but I would be grateful if anyone knows if its reason for inclusion is based upon a specific plan to build such a ship for/by the RCN but that was subsequently cancelled.

I can see nothing to suggest that this is the case and that the only carriers the Canadians operated were those transferred from the RN. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Thank-you

Never heard of a Canadian aircraft carrier before HMCS Bonaventure in the '50s. (Nor after...)

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

ORIGINAL: warspite1


In Mech in Flames there is a Canadian aircraft carrier counter - HMCS Canada. This is obviously a "what if" counter, but I would be grateful if anyone knows if its reason for inclusion is based upon a specific plan to build such a ship for/by the RCN but that was subsequently cancelled.

I can see nothing to suggest that this is the case and that the only carriers the Canadians operated were those transferred from the RN. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Thank-you

Never heard of a Canadian aircraft carrier before HMCS Bonaventure in the '50s. (Nor after...)

Warspite1

There was HMCS Warrior from March 1946, but she was swapped for HMCS Magnificent (as Warrior was not suited to northern waters) who was herself swapped for HMCS Bonaventure. I suspect HMCS Canada is a completely fictional unit but want to make sure this is the case before committing to paper.

The question remains open if anyone can shed any light on it.

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: warspite1


In Mech in Flames there is a Canadian aircraft carrier counter - HMCS Canada. This is obviously a "what if" counter, but I would be grateful if anyone knows if its reason for inclusion is based upon a specific plan to build such a ship for/by the RCN but that was subsequently cancelled.

I can see nothing to suggest that this is the case and that the only carriers the Canadians operated were those transferred from the RN. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Thank-you

Got a mail from the same guys that answers on the quiz.

"HMCS Canada inclusion is probably because the real HMS Canada's sister ship was the HMS Eagle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Canada_(1913)

At the time she was bought, her sister ship, the Almirante Cochrane, was also purchased for the Royal Navy. She was less complete than the Almirante Latorre, and was never completed as a battleship. Instead, she lay incomplete on the slip from 1914 to 1917, when she was purchased and completed as HMS Eagle, one of the first aircraft carriers. As Eagle she served in World War II and was sunk in the Mediterranean while escorting one of the Malta convoys."

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: terje439

ORIGINAL: warspite1


In Mech in Flames there is a Canadian aircraft carrier counter - HMCS Canada. This is obviously a "what if" counter, but I would be grateful if anyone knows if its reason for inclusion is based upon a specific plan to build such a ship for/by the RCN but that was subsequently cancelled.

I can see nothing to suggest that this is the case and that the only carriers the Canadians operated were those transferred from the RN. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Thank-you

Got a mail from the same guys that answers on the quiz.

"HMCS Canada inclusion is probably because the real HMS Canada's sister ship was the HMS Eagle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Canada_(1913)

At the time she was bought, her sister ship, the Almirante Cochrane, was also purchased for the Royal Navy. She was less complete than the Almirante Latorre, and was never completed as a battleship. Instead, she lay incomplete on the slip from 1914 to 1917, when she was purchased and completed as HMS Eagle, one of the first aircraft carriers. As Eagle she served in World War II and was sunk in the Mediterranean while escorting one of the Malta convoys."

Warspite1

Terje thanks for that - excellent spot whoever your source is - only problem is that the counter dates from 1942 and in terms of quality she is in the same category as the Audacious-class - Audacious, Ark Royal II and Eagle II.

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: terje439

ORIGINAL: warspite1


In Mech in Flames there is a Canadian aircraft carrier counter - HMCS Canada. This is obviously a "what if" counter, but I would be grateful if anyone knows if its reason for inclusion is based upon a specific plan to build such a ship for/by the RCN but that was subsequently cancelled.

I can see nothing to suggest that this is the case and that the only carriers the Canadians operated were those transferred from the RN. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Thank-you

Got a mail from the same guys that answers on the quiz.

"HMCS Canada inclusion is probably because the real HMS Canada's sister ship was the HMS Eagle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Canada_(1913)

At the time she was bought, her sister ship, the Almirante Cochrane, was also purchased for the Royal Navy. She was less complete than the Almirante Latorre, and was never completed as a battleship. Instead, she lay incomplete on the slip from 1914 to 1917, when she was purchased and completed as HMS Eagle, one of the first aircraft carriers. As Eagle she served in World War II and was sunk in the Mediterranean while escorting one of the Malta convoys."

Warspite1

Terje thanks for that - excellent spot whoever your source is - only problem is that the counter dates from 1942 and in terms of quality she is in the same category as the Audacious-class - Audacious, Ark Royal II and Eagle II.

Follow-up mail from JGN in my inbox today:

If the HMCS Canada is an Audacious class carrier that makes it even more probable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ai ... Royal_Navy

The Audacious class aircraft carriers were a class of ship proposed by the British government in the 1930s - 1940s. The Audacious class was originally designed as an expansion of the Implacable class with double storied hangars. However, it was realised that the hangar height would not be sufficient for the new aircraft that were expected to enter service, so the design was considerably enlarged.

Four ships of were laid down between 1942 and 1943 during World War II as part of the British naval buildup - HMS Africa (D06), HMS Ark Royal (91), HMS Audacious (D29) and HMS Eagle (94). At the end of hostilities Africa and Eagle were cancelled. Work on the remaining two was suspended.

[doctormm]

ORIGINAL: warspite1


In Mech in Flames there is a Canadian aircraft carrier counter - HMCS Canada. This is obviously a "what if" counter, but I would be grateful if anyone knows if its reason for inclusion is based upon a specific plan to build such a ship for/by the RCN but that was subsequently cancelled.

I can see nothing to suggest that this is the case and that the only carriers the Canadians operated were those transferred from the RN. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Thank-you

The Canada was originally introduced in the America in Flames game, as a "Classic Scale" ship. I imagine that it is based entirely in fantasy. The MiF counter you mention is the Ships in Flames version of the AiF counter.

[micheljq]

I know Canada owned a carrier named "Bonaventure". I think it was in service in the 1950s, could have been used in the Corean War I don't know, and should have been retired in the seventies. I don't think Canada ever owned a CV named "Canada". I can be mistaken. Maybe it was the HMS (Her Majesty Ship) Canada, renamed HMCS (Her Majesty Canadian Ship) Bonaventure after the british handled the carrier to Canada.

That should be the only carrier Canada ever had.

[:)]

[composer99]

The CV HMCS Canada has no real-world equivalent. The list of Canadian carriers that were ever in service can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers_by_country. All of them were light or escort carriers.

[micheljq]

ORIGINAL: composer99

The CV HMCS Canada has no real-world equivalent. The list of Canadian carriers that were ever in service can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers_by_country. All of them were light or escort carriers.

Thanks interesting list, I was sure Canada would list only one but there is five. DOH!

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: micheljq

I know Canada owned a carrier named "Bonaventure". I think it was in service in the 1950s, could have been used in the Corean War I don't know, and should have been retired in the seventies. I don't think Canada ever owned a CV named "Canada". I can be mistaken. Maybe it was the HMS (Her Majesty Ship) Canada, renamed HMCS (Her Majesty Canadian Ship) Bonaventure after the british handled the carrier to Canada.

That should be the only carrier Canada ever had.

[:)]

And another mail from JGN:

How long is the extended game?

HMS Warrior (R31) laid down: December 12, 1942 and launched: May 20, 1944 - sold to Canada as HMCS Warrior 1946 - 1948, sold to Argentina 1958 as ARA Independencia (V-1).
HMCS Magnificent (CVL 21) - laid down July 29, 1943 and launched November 16, 1944 - sold to Canada (replacing Warrior) as HMCS Magnificent (CVL 21) 1946 – 1956.
HMS Powerful (R95) laid down: November 27, 1943 and launched: February 27, 1945 - sold to Canada as HMCS Bonaventure (CVL 22) April 1952 - July 1970.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ai ... Royal_Navy


Bogue class escort carriers manned by Canadian crews in World War II

HMS Nabob (D77) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Nabob_(D77)
HMS Puncher (D79) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Puncher_(D79)

http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/canada/ww2/

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: warspite1


In Mech in Flames there is a Canadian aircraft carrier counter - HMCS Canada. This is obviously a "what if" counter, but I would be grateful if anyone knows if its reason for inclusion is based upon a specific plan to build such a ship for/by the RCN but that was subsequently cancelled.

I can see nothing to suggest that this is the case and that the only carriers the Canadians operated were those transferred from the RN. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Thank-you

Warspite1

I think my original question got lost in translation! - but thanks all for your efforts.