Problem with Scroll
Moderator: Gil R.
Problem with Scroll
This happened to me in COG also.
After clicking on a few units ( random number, or at least I have never found a way to instantly reproduce it) the game must stick on a container ( suspect army but not sure) , what happens is you lose the ability to scroll the map. Sometimes randomly you regain the scroll ( usually after going from one window to another) but generally once it stops scrolling it doesnt come back until you restart the game.
I cant send you a save of it, since it corrects itself as soon as you start again. Your stuck using the small map to move around once the scroll quits working. It also puts the little blurb from what ever province the container that caused it ( I think) is in, on all new screens in the middle. So if you get stuck from an army in Fredricksburg when you use the small map to go to say Cairo, the blurb about fredricksburg is right there in the middle of your screen.
After clicking on a few units ( random number, or at least I have never found a way to instantly reproduce it) the game must stick on a container ( suspect army but not sure) , what happens is you lose the ability to scroll the map. Sometimes randomly you regain the scroll ( usually after going from one window to another) but generally once it stops scrolling it doesnt come back until you restart the game.
I cant send you a save of it, since it corrects itself as soon as you start again. Your stuck using the small map to move around once the scroll quits working. It also puts the little blurb from what ever province the container that caused it ( I think) is in, on all new screens in the middle. So if you get stuck from an army in Fredricksburg when you use the small map to go to say Cairo, the blurb about fredricksburg is right there in the middle of your screen.
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RE: Problem with Scroll
Happens to me too. Damn shame too, especially hearing that it happened in their old game. Why wouldn't they have
fixed it unless they couldn't?
Wish I would have known about this before I bought it [:@]
It isn't just annoying, a stronger word is needed than that. Or maybe a few four letter adjectives.
Rocco
fixed it unless they couldn't?
Wish I would have known about this before I bought it [:@]
It isn't just annoying, a stronger word is needed than that. Or maybe a few four letter adjectives.
Rocco

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RE: Problem with Scroll
Happened here also. [;)]
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RE: Problem with Scroll
Also happened here. Came out, reloaded and it was fine...even after selecting an object/state/region.
But it did happen.
But it did happen.
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RE: Problem with Scroll
It is random and seems to happen to me eventually ever session. Sometimes quickly, sometimes not so quick. It is annoying. It isnt a game breaker, I played COG with that problem too. But if something can be done about it, I would be one happy camper.
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RE: Problem with Scroll
I can't imagine this one wasn't reported by the beta team.....surely in ALL the games they played, one or two would have experienced it if a few of us are already experiencing on release.....as you say, no deal breaker...but still a little annoyance.
It is a shame and I feel a bit embarrassed reporting it, as there are so many indepth aspects to the game, as yet untouched by my hands, and all I can do is moan about something so trivial....
It is a shame and I feel a bit embarrassed reporting it, as there are so many indepth aspects to the game, as yet untouched by my hands, and all I can do is moan about something so trivial....
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RE: Problem with Scroll
It's happened to me twice so far, and it's quite annoying. Yes, reloading fixes it, but it's still annoying.

RE: Problem with Scroll
Have the same problem here too.
RE: Problem with Scroll
ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd
I can't imagine this one wasn't reported by the beta team.....surely in ALL the games they played, one or two would have experienced it if a few of us are already experiencing on release.....as you say, no deal breaker...but still a little annoyance.
It is a shame and I feel a bit embarrassed reporting it, as there are so many indepth aspects to the game, as yet untouched by my hands, and all I can do is moan about something so trivial....
As Gil said (in another thread) there was an issue at one point where this would happen when we would alt-tab out and come back in. Sub-windows were somehow getting stuck behind the main game window and it was waiting for someone to click "ok" or whatever on that invisible subwindow. I've never seen it happen when I wasn't alt-tabbing and recently it has been working for me when I was. *shrug* My best suggestion is to close any windows prior to hitting alt-tab while they investigate further. I (and other testers) might just have been subconsciously programmed to do that without really giving it much thought and therefore might have missed an instance of it somewhere.
RE: Problem with Scroll
Regarding the "hidden window" issue, I have always found that there is a minimization bar at the lower-left-hand corner of my screen whenever there is a control (a pop-up, or a window) that is waiting for an "OK" or to be closed. It is usually a small, rectangular grey bar. Double-clicking it will maximize the hidden window, and you can then close it as needed.
Unless this is some other issue...but it sounds like the same sort of thing I experienced.
Unless this is some other issue...but it sounds like the same sort of thing I experienced.
RE: Problem with Scroll
I have never alt tabed out of the game, nor did I do so in COG , which had the same problem. I have never minimized a window in the game, so unless one is minimizing itself when I close it I dont see how this applies.
It doesnt happen after I have opened a window and closed ( in game) it happens after I have been looking through containers, thus why I said it appears to be a problem with a container not releaseing right.
It doesnt happen after I have opened a window and closed ( in game) it happens after I have been looking through containers, thus why I said it appears to be a problem with a container not releaseing right.
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RE: Problem with Scroll
ORIGINAL: Twotribes
I have never alt tabed out of the game, nor did I do so in COG , which had the same problem. I have never minimized a window in the game, so unless one is minimizing itself when I close it I dont see how this applies.
It doesnt happen after I have opened a window and closed ( in game) it happens after I have been looking through containers, thus why I said it appears to be a problem with a container not releaseing right.
Yep...same for me
RE: Problem with Scroll
ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd
I can't imagine this one wasn't reported by the beta team.....surely in ALL the games they played, one or two would have experienced it if a few of us are already experiencing on release.....as you say, no deal breaker...but still a little annoyance.
There was only one tester who reported it a few times. I made some changes to the code and the problem seemed to be resolved. There may be something system specific about the problem -- many of the testers (and our staff as well) have never experienced it.
I'll try to find a way to reproduce it.

RE: Problem with Scroll
If it's any help, in my case it did seem to be a case of a selected unit that needed to be unselected. The unit may have been an enemy unit, because when I finally noticed it, there were brown arrows emanating from it. I right-clicked by it, and suddenly I could scroll the map again. Thereafter I was able to play for a couple hours with no scroll trouble. (shrug)
Gil said something about a window not closing at the bottom of the screen, but I couldn't find any minimized window on my interface.
Gil said something about a window not closing at the bottom of the screen, but I couldn't find any minimized window on my interface.

RE: Problem with Scroll
I can assure you it isn't just a problem with alt tab. I never did that.
I hope you can fix it, It makes the interface extremely clumsy to use. For me it
doesn't just stop the scrolling, it also stops movement lines from showing up, a popup
help box is stuck on the screen, weird stuff like that.
I will have to try the reloading thing, I didn't know till now that would "fix" it.
edit: and if it helps, here's my system:
AMD 64 3500+
1 GB RAM
Nvidia 6800 GT 256MB
Soundblaster Live
Windows XP Home
Asus K8NE deluxe motherboard
Thanks,
Rocco
I hope you can fix it, It makes the interface extremely clumsy to use. For me it
doesn't just stop the scrolling, it also stops movement lines from showing up, a popup
help box is stuck on the screen, weird stuff like that.
I will have to try the reloading thing, I didn't know till now that would "fix" it.
edit: and if it helps, here's my system:
AMD 64 3500+
1 GB RAM
Nvidia 6800 GT 256MB
Soundblaster Live
Windows XP Home
Asus K8NE deluxe motherboard
Thanks,
Rocco

RE: Problem with Scroll
The workaround is to use the arrow keys. FWIW I prefer them to hitting the edges to scroll the map. The scrolling is smoother for me with the arrow keys. As mentioned in the other therad, I also have seen the problem.
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RE: Problem with Scroll
Scrolling with the arrow keys isn't much of an option here.
If I hold down an arrow key, it will scroll just a little bit, then stop. I continue holding down the arrow key
and when I let go I am suddenly at the other end of the map [&:]
Horrible is what this is for me. Sorry, I don't mean to sound bitchy but the game is REALLY hard to play this way.
Rocco
If I hold down an arrow key, it will scroll just a little bit, then stop. I continue holding down the arrow key
and when I let go I am suddenly at the other end of the map [&:]
Horrible is what this is for me. Sorry, I don't mean to sound bitchy but the game is REALLY hard to play this way.
Rocco

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RE: Problem with Scroll
Rocco you'e right.
I just started a game to have a proper play around and the scrolling froze after my first right click on a unit [&:] [:@]
Wheel scrolling still works to go up and down but it is jerky. The mini-map still works to jump from spot to spot and the arrows are just too clumsy and jerky for me.
Eric, please fix this with a quick patch (and please get the missing special attribute files in the same zip) [&o]
I'm using Low Animations btw.
Adam.
I just started a game to have a proper play around and the scrolling froze after my first right click on a unit [&:] [:@]
Wheel scrolling still works to go up and down but it is jerky. The mini-map still works to jump from spot to spot and the arrows are just too clumsy and jerky for me.
Eric, please fix this with a quick patch (and please get the missing special attribute files in the same zip) [&o]
I'm using Low Animations btw.
Adam.
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RE: Problem with Scroll
ORIGINAL: ericbabe
ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd
I can't imagine this one wasn't reported by the beta team.....surely in ALL the games they played, one or two would have experienced it if a few of us are already experiencing on release.....as you say, no deal breaker...but still a little annoyance.
There was only one tester who reported it a few times. I made some changes to the code and the problem seemed to be resolved. There may be something system specific about the problem -- many of the testers (and our staff as well) have never experienced it.
I'll try to find a way to reproduce it.
ericbabe (feels kinda strange calling you that...I hardly know you! [;)])
It doesn't seem worth your time trying to track it down unless someone can recreate it and give steps on what happened, as it's going to be like looking for a needle in a haystack of needles. On the other hand, you may stumble across it...
Bu as reported, it's very intermittent. It has happened to me twice in the four times I've loaded the game...and there doesn't seem to be anything "specific" I did in those two instances.
Probably the best thing to do is ask the users experiencing it (me included) to watch carefully what we do in a game and when it happens again, make sure WE KNOW what we did priior to it happening.
Alba gu' brath
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RE: Problem with Scroll
Just to clarify, though, there seems to be some sort of confusion. This issue (map not scrolling with the mouse) IS NOT RELATED to alt-tabbing...I, nor, it appears, the others who have suffered this issue have ALT-TABbed.
Alba gu' brath