Disappearing Runner?

[Wrathchild]

Here's the situation:

Runners on 1st and 3rd, no outs.
Batter hits a grounder towards first.
1st baseman throws home but isn't in time. Runner on 3rd scores, runner on 1st advances to 2nd.
However, the batter is not on base and no out is recorded. Where'd he go?
The next batter flies out and the runner on 2nd is thrown out trying to go to 3rd. 2 outs.

[Frozen Stiffer]

Bathroom break.

[Wrathchild]

Maybe he's like Forrest Gump and just kept running right past 1st base and out of the stadium.

[motnahp]

Pure Sim has ghost runners? [;)]

[Wrathchild]

Here's another example of a disappearing runner. The Giants were not charged with an out but the runner isn't on 1st, either. I'm not sure why the picture is of such poor quality, as it looked fine when I pasted it into Word. When I threw it into MSPaint so I could make a jpeg it looked like this. And, yes, I know that I have bigger problems than a disappearing runner to worry about with the way my team is performing in this game.

[Bustoff]

I guess I am more confused than usual. I see that Flood grounded out and Grady scored on the throw to first, with Hickman advancing to 2nd on the play. Who is missing? Was there already one out before Flood batted?

That field looks awful. St. Louis must be having one of its typically dry summers and the poor groundskeepers just can't keep up. [;)]

Plus, your pitchers need to be taken out and shot. But you knew that.

[Wrathchild]

ORIGINAL: Bustoff

I guess I am more confused than usual. I see that Flood grounded out and Grady scored on the throw to first, with Hickman advancing to 2nd on the play. Who is missing? Was there already one out before Flood batted?

Yes, there was already one out before Flood batted. My interpretation of the play is that the hit went to McGraw, who threw home trying to get Grady out. The text always says that the batter grounds out, even if the actual out is the runner from first going to second, and the batter gets on safely. It's very misleading.

That field looks awful. St. Louis must be having one of its typically dry summers and the poor groundskeepers just can't keep up. [;)]

Yeah, that is a strange looking paste. It was crystal clear in the screen shot I took. What also annoys me, visually, is that I have to look at a placeholder image for Roy Clark. I couldn't find a photo of him any way. I should look put in a picture of the guy from Hee Haw.

Plus, your pitchers need to be taken out and shot. But you knew that.

They usually don't perform this badly. And it wasn't just them. The fielders weren't getting any of the hit balls. I've been keeping the opposition to scores of 0 and 1 for the most part, but not this game. It was a disaster. I wonder if it being the second game of a doubleheader has anything to do with it.

[GNDN]

I do not read it that way.  The play was 5 - 2.  From my POV, the throw never went to first.  Flood should be on first, Hickman on second, with no one out.  I am kind of curious as to where and how the out was recorded.  It may not be a phantom runner, but a phantom out.
 
 

[Wrathchild]

Ok, it's going to get even more confusing now. Here's an image from the next game in the series. Again, the situation is a failed throw to home. Note that Selbach had the first out of the inning. Grady triples and Hickman comes up to bat. It's showing Hickman as going 0-1 but not counting his 'non' hit as an out, yet he makes it successfully to first. He should be 1-1 at this point.

[GNDN]

Actually, WC, that would be scored as a fielder's choice.  I do not remember for sure (been a long time since I manually scored a game), but I do not believe Hickman gets credit for a hit.  Hickman should be 0-1.

[Wrathchild]

I see. I'm not familiar with the Fielder's Choice rule.