1920`S FOOTBALL GLITCH

[DONMVP]

Hi guys just finishing up my league rosters and schedule . Decided to see a quick game . .Uniform looked ok . But i noticed , that during the game i see the sleve changing, from the main color , to all white or another team`s color . I`ve change the setting for the video graphics , from high graphic`s to low no shadow and such , even used custom and original game stadium .Anyway its no big deal to me , but if when i`m finished , with the league i releash , it as a league at fbmax or the ea mod . Hate to see it cause others problems . Using it on XP ,A FAIRLY new GE FORCE CARD. With all the current patch and such . I made a seperate Common file for this league . Since They had only 1 uniform per team i put it .In the home and away .Each team has a seperate skin color for there sleve . So far i`ve only assigned the skin sleave to 4 teams to check . Example Buffalo uses skin S2.skin , Canton S3.skin , Chi Bears S4.skin , Cardinals S5.skin. Those our just a few done . Now i never played Oldcoaches 48 league yet , so not sure if he had same prob. Anyway enclosing a few shots any suggestions be accepted .This pic shows QB with different sleve , also a few players on defense to.

[DONMVP]

perfect shot

[Marauders]

This pic shows QB with different sleve, also a few players on defense to.

Just to note, in 1920, the quarterback didn't get snapped the ball in the Single Wing offense, but I assume you mean the player behind the center.  He has different arms in both the first and the perfect shot.  Is he supposed to?
 
I can see that the defenders have uniform problems in the first shot.

[Old Coach]

First- those uniforms are great.

In the singlewing, the man that usually took the snap was called the tailback, because he was the "tail" of the formation. In MaxFB, he designated the QB because he is the passer as well as prime RB.

The quarterback called the snap count and he was usually 1/4 of the way back behind the LOS. Sometimes he took the snap and after spinning and faking would handoff to another back. He rarely ran the ball and usually was used as a blocking back. In this particular version of the singlewing, I set the blocking back in the center/guard gap close to the LOS. Actually, he should be kneeling down and have his hands under the center as though he were going to take the snap. In this position, he would be looking up the center's butt. (Not very appealing. If the center farted, the QB's face would be in the line of fire.) At the snap of the ball, he would spin out in the direction the play was being run. I put him in an RB stance because it was the best fit. I tried a 3 point stance but it didn't look right. The best option would be to have him in the QB's stance, but that is not available to non-QB's.

In later versions of the single wing the QB/Blockingback stood a few steps in front of the FB. The FB in that version generally lined up in the G/T gap about 5 yards behind the LOS.

The fullback is the man to the right of the tailback and was considered to be all the way back behind the LOS or at full distance behind the LOS. The halfback was 1/2 way behind the LOS and if he lined up behind and to the outside of a TE he was called a wingback.

In your first picture, it looks like some players weren't correctly assigned a skin BMP. or there wasn't a skin BMP with the number assigned to the player.

Old Coach

[therhino]

Thanks for the history lesson Old Coach. Wow you know a lot about early football. I knew they had a lot of differents formations, but thats a completely different type of football. Those are some really good looking uniforms DonMVP. I wish I could get my uniforms to look that good.
TheRhino 

[DONMVP]

Well as far as the arms , i rechecked the teams and looked like there all set right . I can understand one guy , having wrong arm . But at times for a couple plays you see several players with wrong arms . Was debating if i look everything over can`t correct i might just in the common file have 2 skins and each game just copy each teams skin for one . By the way OLDCOACH On the offenses you made for your 48 league is there one that is mostly run offense . Since they did`nt pass much in 20`s . Or should i set the situation in play calling for mostly runs . Had a practice game looked like both teams threw 25 passes .

[Old Coach]

No, the playbooks I created were not weighted running or passing. I made a concerted effort to have balanced playbooks. Set your profiles to reflect a predominately running playbook scheme or simply call mostly running plays when you're controlling a team. I have to admit that I haven't put much effort into setting up the play calling profiles. All my game play is two player mode. We simply agree to call plays according to the era or league we're playing with. Old guys will do that. We have the old guy honor code. My second oldest son is a high school head football coach and when we play, we use the old guy code to govern our play calling.

As to the history lesson, I love the old school game. I've read a lot books and have a library of old game films on VHS and DVD that I watch. Those are the source of most of my plays. I would have loved to played football in the single wing days.

The first Tennessee football game I saw in person was in 1963 when the Vols played Mississippi at the old Crump Stadium in Memphis. UT was the last major college team to stop running the single wing as its primary offense. 1963 was the last year of the single wing in Knoxville. To me as a 7th grader, the single wing looked like the way we played football in the back yard. I thought it was pretty cool. That was a great afternoon for a young boy. I liked Ole Miss and I loved their uniforms, but Tennessee's orange jerseys really caught my eye. You add on the bands, the pretty college cheeleaders, the spirit of the crowds, the fall colors and although we lost to the Rebels 20-0, I was hooked on Tennessee football. One thing that helped that along was that my brother had just graduated from UT the previous spring.

One more thing, these "innovative" spread option offenses we see so much in college football are just the single wing with multiple wideouts. All those great minds did was pull out old game films and adapt the plays to multiple WR sets. The new coach at Gerorgia Tech, Paul Johnson I think his name is ( he was at Vanderbilt the last few years), is putting in the triple option. Don't know yet what set he's running it from but can you say "hello again 1970's"? I hope he's running the wishbone.

Old Coach

[leeman67]

Regardless of the glitch, these unis look awesome. 

[DONMVP]

Well after spending all day friday trying to fix the glitch in my uniforms for the 20`s i made i`m going to give up trying .Must be the computer , because i have the right sleves and stuff done . When i get a chance i`ll send the 34 or 36 uniforms to fbmax . Also finding out oldcoach 48 season acts the same way on my comp. I made 10 all american football conference uniforms which act weird to . When i can i`ll send them to . Hopefully the others members here can enjoy all the stuff i did . I plan on just having the teams use short sleve uniforms , both of groups i made .Hopefully by monday i`ll have those uniforms sent to fbmax .

[Mykal]

Cant say I've ever seen this kinda thing before

I also use alot of sleeves but they tend to be either white or black
and are random from player to player, so perhaps thats why I aint seen it.

Its a real puzzler, cos one players sleeves are fine and the player next to him isnt..........[&:]
very strange

[DONMVP]

well the last time i played a quick game one team almost all players sleves looked good , while the other team almost all players had 4 different sleves . At first i checked to see if ever player had correct skin sleve number that was ok . Then i noticed i was using oldcoaches hands from his 48 mod , which were gloves but with hands , so i changed all to reg hands . Same prob. Well i think what i`ll do personally for my league . I`ll just use the regular sleves that were created along time ago . So any black or navy uniforms might still look old, WHO knows maybe it was putting stripes on sleves i might check that out . It seemed like my 20 bears team did`nt act funny and they had a solid navy sleve . Well maybe i`ll look into that , lol , another day and night ouch.

[DONMVP]

Quick question To some techies on site . You think a power supply lesser then the card reqires might cause the sleave switching. I think the card called for 450 and my power supply is 400. Everytime i start comp up , i get a warning saying lacks correct power , but card can compensate . So anyway i was just thinking maybe thats prob.

[Marauders]

Quick question To some techies on site . You think a power supply lesser then the card reqires might cause the sleave switching. I think the card called for 450 and my power supply is 400. Everytime i start comp up , i get a warning saying lacks correct power , but card can compensate . So anyway i was just thinking maybe thats prob.

 
I don't know why that would force the program to swap out the incorrect texture.  I could see a less able graphics card not show the texture (leaving it white), but this shouldn't be the case.
 
What graphics card do you have installed?

[DONMVP]

its a E - GEFORCE 7600 GS TAKES 400 WATTS , BUT I HAVE 350 WATTS . I` m pretty sure when i played a game , i had like shin 2 for like team buffalo , skin 3 for canton all , the players had the correct skin . I might just donload all uniforms to fbmax as a set . Each team has the correct skin in there team file. Maybe i`ll include the common set, but that for some reason won`t let me assign skin 1 and a couple others . All i see is white skin even though i try to put AKRONS blue sleve in there .

[DAWUSS]

ORIGINAL: DONMVP

Well after spending all day friday trying to fix the glitch in my uniforms for the 20`s i made i`m going to give up trying .Must be the computer , because i have the right sleves and stuff done . When i get a chance i`ll send the 34 or 36 uniforms to fbmax . Also finding out oldcoach 48 season acts the same way on my comp. I made 10 all american football conference uniforms which act weird to . When i can i`ll send them to . Hopefully the others members here can enjoy all the stuff i did . I plan on just having the teams use short sleve uniforms , both of groups i made .Hopefully by monday i`ll have those uniforms sent to fbmax .

Is it angle specific? Does it only appear when looking at it from a certain angle? I know there have been some video games where graphical glitches are angle related...

ORIGINAL: Old Coach

No, the playbooks I created were not weighted running or passing. I made a concerted effort to have balanced playbooks. Set your profiles to reflect a predominately running playbook scheme or simply call mostly running plays when you're controlling a team. I have to admit that I haven't put much effort into setting up the play calling profiles. All my game play is two player mode. We simply agree to call plays according to the era or league we're playing with. Old guys will do that. We have the old guy honor code. My second oldest son is a high school head football coach and when we play, we use the old guy code to govern our play calling.

As to the history lesson, I love the old school game. I've read a lot books and have a library of old game films on VHS and DVD that I watch. Those are the source of most of my plays. I would have loved to played football in the single wing days.

The first Tennessee football game I saw in person was in 1963 when the Vols played Mississippi at the old Crump Stadium in Memphis. UT was the last major college team to stop running the single wing as its primary offense. 1963 was the last year of the single wing in Knoxville. To me as a 7th grader, the single wing looked like the way we played football in the back yard. I thought it was pretty cool. That was a great afternoon for a young boy. I liked Ole Miss and I loved their uniforms, but Tennessee's orange jerseys really caught my eye. You add on the bands, the pretty college cheeleaders, the spirit of the crowds, the fall colors and although we lost to the Rebels 20-0, I was hooked on Tennessee football. One thing that helped that along was that my brother had just graduated from UT the previous spring.

One more thing, these "innovative" spread option offenses we see so much in college football are just the single wing with multiple wideouts. All those great minds did was pull out old game films and adapt the plays to multiple WR sets. The new coach at Gerorgia Tech, Paul Johnson I think his name is ( he was at Vanderbilt the last few years), is putting in the triple option. Don't know yet what set he's running it from but can you say "hello again 1970's"? I hope he's running the wishbone.

Old Coach

I had a hard time trying to understand the single wing offense (yeah, I'm of the new school football breed), and I had first heard about it in the Chip Hilton sports series A Pass and a Prayer. ... let's just say I was wondering why they had a OL/FB like guy playing QB and the RB receiving the snaps, and I also had a hard time picturing the formation.

One thing that amazes me is the more football changes, the more it stays the same

[DONMVP]

Well as far as i can tell dos`nt seem to be angle related , still messing with it to see if i can lick the problem .