Gutter War..Empires Ablaze 2ndAcr (allied) vs Nemo121 (IJN)

[2ndACR]

NEMO FREE ZONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, I decided to try out Nemo121's mod and who better to play against than the designer.

This will be a gutter fight after a few small first turn limitations. After turn 1, it is anything goes. I know Nemo121 is a very aggressive player, and I like to think I am aggressive too, so this should get down and dirty very quickly.

I plan to make lots of mistakes while I learn his mod, since this is the first time I have played with it. Only just looked at it today as a matter of fact. But I will overcome those mistakes and see if I can cause the "master" some pain.

[thegreatwent]

Good luck and have fun[:)]

[Nomad]

Ok, I'm ready.

[2ndACR]

Well, I will not post the combat report, because it is way too long. I will say that Nemo121 is very ambitious with his first turn.
 
POW and Repulse have ceased to exist, never had a chance to leave port. The American sub force in the PI has basically ceased to exist. PH got hit and he banged up the Pacific fleet. The Russian sub force has basically ceased to exist.
 
Landings at Dutch Harbor and Cold Bay Alaska, Kuching, Cagayan, Mersing, Palembang, Luganville, Hilo, Koumac, Rabaul, Johnston Atoll, Palymra. Palymra Atoll is very critical, because he has already shifted a/c into there. IJN navy is still poised above PH.
 
Boise got first blood sinking 4 IJN DD's in surface combat. Now to see if she can sting him further on her movement out of the area. Houston is moving to also help Boise. They are going to try and intercept some IJN shipping moving for Tarakan.
 
 Lexington and Enterprise are moving to strike the Hilo landings from the south side (hopefully, avoiding KB) and see if I can bang up some ships there. Saratoga has sallied from San Diego to join Enterprise.
 
 The great AK, TK roundup has begun all over the pacific, but until I know what sea lanes are safe, I am marshalling my shipping in central locations.
 
 

[goodboyladdie]

ORIGINAL: 2ndACR

Well, I will not post the combat report, because it is way too long. I will say that Nemo121 is very ambitious with his first turn.

POW and Repulse have ceased to exist, never had a chance to leave port. The American sub force in the PI has basically ceased to exist. PH got hit and he banged up the Pacific fleet. The Russian sub force has basically ceased to exist.

Landings at Dutch Harbor and Cold Bay Alaska, Kuching, Cagayan, Mersing, Palembang, Luganville, Hilo, Koumac, Rabaul, Johnston Atoll, Palymra. Palymra Atoll is very critical, because he has already shifted a/c into there. IJN navy is still poised above PH.

Boise got first blood sinking 4 IJN DD's in surface combat. Now to see if she can sting him further on her movement out of the area. Houston is moving to also help Boise. They are going to try and intercept some IJN shipping moving for Tarakan.

Lexington and Enterprise are moving to strike the Hilo landings from the south side (hopefully, avoiding KB) and see if I can bang up some ships there. Saratoga has sallied from San Diego to join Enterprise.

The great AK, TK roundup has begun all over the pacific, but until I know what sea lanes are safe, I am marshalling my shipping in central locations.

Good luck with your attempted CV action. If he still has his planes on Port/AF attack you might get away with it, but you are definitely braver than me - I'd always play the long game and keep them safe for now... Their planes and AAA are really bad at the mo.

[Rob Brennan UK]

Good Luck 2ndACR [:D].

I agree with goodboyladdie on the bravery of the hilo interception. Still if it all goes wrong the replacements (do they happen in nemo mod?) come in all the earlier.

[ny59giants]

There is no re-spawning of ships in this mod. This is based on RHS which does not include this stock option. Keeping your CVs a fleet in being is just as important as actually having them strike hard now. The added range of the Kate (6 with torpedoes) vs the limited American makes this a long shot to come out anywhere near even.

But, I'll sit back and watch the show.

[2ndACR]

Well, that range issue sure slipped by me. Guess I will have to cross my fingers and see what happens. I might need to fire up the IJN side and take a closer look and see what else I missed. But I already was prepared to make mistakes.
 
But either way, I just can not abide by sitting back and allowing him to grab anything in Hawaii without a fight. I have to fight somewhere, and this is about as important a area as it gets. Alaska does not bother me too much, because I will be shifting hordes of a/c into the area to bomb the devils out of him. Plus a dosage of naval bombardments.
 
I am going to shift a AUS division to Noumea so that he will at least have to bring more than a SNLF to take the place. Surface forces are moving to the area to harass his shipping there. 1 US CA is already within striking range of Luganville. Just have to wait and see if she catches anything.
 
Rabaul will be un-contested by the navy. Unless a golden opportunity presents itself.
 
 

[2ndACR]

Well the sync bug has finally reared it's ugly head........[:@]   This is the very first time I have been struck with this bug that is the bane of everyone else.
 
Well, my southern strike lost me the Enterprise, but Lexington escaped and will run away to join up with Saratoga. Boise and Houston ran smack into a IJN BB task force and got pummeled. The Russian's began to exact some revenge on Nemo121's air force.
 
 
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/08/41
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ASW attack near Pearl Harbor [Oahu]  at 114,72
 
Japanese Ships
SS I-16, hits 4
 
Allied Ships
AVD McFarland
 
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Kona [Hawaii] at 115,75
 
Japanese Ships
AK Canton Maru, Shell hits 12,  on fire,  heavy damage
 
Allied Ships
CA Minneapolis
DD Jarvis
DD Reid
 Raiding Force from PH
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Night Time Surface Combat at 37,60
 
 
Allied aircraft
no flights
 
 
Allied aircraft losses
SOC Seagull: 2 destroyed
 
Japanese Ships
BB Ise
BB Hyuga
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze, Shell hits 1
DD Natsushio
DD Inazuma
 
Allied Ships
CA Houston, Shell hits 62, and is sunk
OOPS
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Night Time Surface Combat at 37,60
 
 
Allied aircraft
no flights
 
 
Allied aircraft losses
SOC Seagull: 2 destroyed
 
Japanese Ships
BB Ise
BB Hyuga
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Natsushio
DD Inazuma
 
Allied Ships
CL Boise, Shell hits 52, and is sunk
 OOPS
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Night Time Surface Combat at 37,60
 
 
Allied aircraft
no flights
 
 
SOC Seagull: 2 destroyed
 
Japanese Ships
BB Ise
BB Hyuga
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Natsushio
DD Inazuma
 
Allied Ships
CL Boise, Shell hits 52, and is sunk
 
 Double Post I guess
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Luganville [New Heb] at 71,111
 
Japanese Ships
AP Tonei Maru, Shell hits 5,  on fire,  heavy damage
AK Kowa Maru, Shell hits 6,  on fire,  heavy damage
 
Allied Ships
CA Louisville
 
Japanese ground losses:
135 casualties reported
 A Little strike here
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Day Air attack on Nikolaevsk na Amur , at 76,26
 
Japanese aircraft
E7K2 Alf x 58
 
Japanese aircraft losses
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
 
Allied Ships
SS SHCH137, Bomb hits 1
TK Nikolaevsk, Bomb hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
 
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1
 
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Day Air attack on Kiamusze [Manchukuo] , at 66,29
 
Japanese aircraft
no flights
 
Allied aircraft
I-16 Type 24 x 19
IL-2 Shturmovik x 60
 
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 29 destroyed
D3A2 Val: 3 destroyed
A5M4 Claude: 1 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
IL-2 Shturmovik: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged
 
Airbase hits 18
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 44
  Just trying to inflict some pain where I can
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Day Air attack on Kiamusze [Manchukuo] , at 66,29
 
Japanese aircraft
no flights
 
Allied aircraft
R-12 x 4
SB-2M x 49
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A5M4 Claude: 1 destroyed
Ki-27 Nate: 9 destroyed
D3A2 Val: 1 destroyed
 
 
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 9
 
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Day Air attack on Mutankiang [Mnchuko] , at 64,31
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 12
 
Allied aircraft
I-16 Type 24 x 9
IL-2 Shturmovik x 66
LaGG-3 x 19
Yak-1 x 12
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 2 destroyed
Ki-27 Nate: 1 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
I-16 Type 24: 1 destroyed
IL-2 Shturmovik: 22 destroyed, 22 damaged
LaGG-3: 2 destroyed
Yak-1: 1 destroyed
 
Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
 
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 34
 That hurt me
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Day Air attack on IJA 23rd Division, at 66,25
 
 
Allied aircraft
IL-2 Shturmovik x 48
 
 
Allied aircraft losses
IL-2 Shturmovik: 1 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
 
Aircraft Attacking:
24 x IL-2 Shturmovik bombing at 2000 feet
24 x IL-2 Shturmovik bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 115,74
 
 
Allied aircraft
TBD Devastator x 12
 
 
No Allied losses
 
Japanese Ships
AK Canton Maru, Bomb hits 5,  on fire,  heavy damage
 
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Day Air attack on TF at 114,74
 
 
Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 9
SBD-3 Dauntless x 33
 
 
No Allied losses
 
Japanese Ships
AP Kaito Maru, Bomb hits 9,  on fire,  heavy damage
 
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Day Air attack on TF, near Vigan/Bangued at 44,49
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 9
F1M2 Pete-FF x 2
 
Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 12
P-35A Hawk x 16
P-40B Tomahawk x 11
P-40E Warhawk x 10
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 1 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
P-35A Hawk: 3 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 4 destroyed
 
Japanese Ships
AK Kuniyama Maru
AK Wuhu Maru, Bomb hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
AP Kanayamasan Maru
 
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Day Air attack on TF, near Mersing [Malaya] at 23,50
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 9
F1M2 Pete-FF x 2
A6M2-N Rufe-FF x 7
 
Allied aircraft
Swordfish I x 5
Vildebeest IV x 2
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish I: 4 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed
 
Japanese Ships
AV Kamikawa Maru, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
 
Aircraft Attacking:
 1 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Mersing [Malaya] at 23,50
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 9
F1M2 Pete-FF x 2
A6M2-N Rufe-FF x 7
 
Allied aircraft
Swordfish I x 5
Vildebeest IV x 2
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish I: 4 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed
 
Japanese Ships
AV Kamikawa Maru, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
 
Aircraft Attacking:
 1 x Vildebeest IV launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 111,75
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 4
A6M2-N Rufe-FF x 8
D3A2 Val x 16
B5N2 Kate x 24
 
Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 17
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe-FF: 1 destroyed
D3A2 Val: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 4 destroyed, 6 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
 
Allied Ships
CA Northampton, Bomb hits 4,  on fire
CV Enterprise, Torpedo hits 6,  on fire,  heavy damage
CA Chester, Bomb hits 2,  on fire
 Never got to see this strike happen.
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Day Air attack on TF at 111,75
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 4
D3A2 Val x 17
B5N2 Kate x 23
 
Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 7
 
Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 1 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 5 destroyed
 
Allied Ships
CA Chester, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
CV Enterprise, Bomb hits 3,  on fire,  heavy damage
CA Northampton,  on fire
 
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 111,75
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 4
D3A2 Val x 17
B5N2 Kate x 14
 
Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 5
 
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
 
Allied Ships
CV Enterprise,  on fire,  heavy damage
CA Northampton, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire
 
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Day Air attack on Pearl Harbor [Oahu] , at 114,72
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 12
B5N2 Kate x 46
 
Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1
 
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 15 destroyed, 15 damaged      All told, I think I have counted around 50 KB planes toast
 
 
Allied Ships
BB Nevada, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire
BB Pennsylvania, Torpedo hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
CL Helena, Bomb hits 1
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 1
 
 
Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
 
Port hits 2
 
Aircraft Attacking:
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Day Air attack on TF at 111,75
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 12
D3A2 Val x 44
B5N2 Kate x 41
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied Ships
CV Enterprise,  on fire,  heavy damage
 
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 Well, at this rate, I will have attrited KB some with pilot losses, and soon, he will be getting low on strike points. Of course, he can always replenish at one of his newly conquered Hawaiian bases. But they have to be port level 3.

[ny59giants]

I have two games going on with this mod, one on each side. The range of fighters is pretty much the same.
Nell - 14/19
Betty - 19/26 (YIKES!!! the torpedo carry range will really hurt you as he gets Palmrya up and running)
Sally - 8/11
A6M2 Zero - 8/11
Oscars - 3/5
Kate - 6/8
Mike - 2/3 (expect a lot of these for base CAP in 3/42)
Helen - 9/13

[1EyedJacks]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

There is no re-spawning of ships in this mod. This is based on RHS which does not include this stock option. Keeping your CVs a fleet in being is just as important as actually having them strike hard now. The added range of the Kate (6 with torpedoes) vs the limited American makes this a long shot to come out anywhere near even.

But, I'll sit back and watch the show.

I think you might be wrong about the non-regenerating CVs...


The following was taken from the List of Changes Document:

The American navy is also greatly strengthened by the addition of a large number of new battleships, cruisers and Essex class carriers mainly in 1943 and 1944 when they will benefit from the additional strength most. In addition carrier respawning has been re-instituted such that the Allies in 1943 and 1944 are likely to be able to mount far stronger carrier raids than is the case in stock or RHS. In addition several replenishment CVEs have been added for the Allied carrier-capable corsairs such that these planes can be replenished at sea.

[2ndACR]

Well, I sure hops they re-spawn. I will have to check when the next turn arrives. Lexington went down this turn, but she managed to plant bombs into Shokaku and Zuikaku. So far, about 80 IJN planes from KB have been downed. I sure hope that hurts him.
 
My small surface raiding forces in the South Pacific are hurting him some. Not much, but some. I am beginning to surge shipping from PH to get out what I can.
 
Singapore has been cut off from the rest of Malaya by landings.
 
Night Time Surface Combat, near Koumac [New Cal] at 65,114
 
Japanese Ships
AP Daihachikyo Maru, Shell hits 1,  on fire
AP Daijukyo Maru, Shell hits 23, and is sunk
AK Taga Maru
 
Allied Ships
CA Louisville
 
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Sub attack near Pearl Harbor [Oahu]  at 114,72
 
Japanese Ships
SS I-16
 
Allied Ships
CA Chester, Torpedo hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
 
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Day Air attack on TF at 120,76
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 41
 
Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 9
SBD-3 Dauntless x 32
TBD Devastator x 12
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 5 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 17 destroyed
TBD Devastator: 8 destroyed
 
Japanese Ships
CV Shokaku, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
CV Zuikaku, Bomb hits 2
 
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Day Air attack on TF, near Vigan/Bangued at 44,49
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 29
F1M2 Pete-FF x 2
 
Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 8
P-35A Hawk x 12
P-40B Tomahawk x 9
P-40E Warhawk x 3
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zeke: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed
P-35A Hawk: 6 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 6 destroyed
 
Japanese Ships
AK Sugiyama Maru, Bomb hits 1
AK Kasyu Maru, Bomb hits 1
PC Ch 17
 
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Day Air attack on TF at 121,77
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zeke x 12
D3A2 Val x 53
B5N2 Kate x 52
 
Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 8
 
Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 3 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
 
Allied Ships
CV Lexington, Bomb hits 16, Torpedo hits 6,  on fire,  heavy damage
CA Astoria, Bomb hits 6,  on fire
CA Portland, Torpedo hits 4,  on fire,  heavy damage
CA Chicago
 
The air action has been fierce all over the map. Aircraft losses have been severe for both sides. Saratoga has been re-routed south to try and cover escaping shipping from the PH area.
 
Louisville has been joined by 2 NZ CL's and a AUS surface group is approaching the area. An Aus division has been loaded aboard ship and is moving to Noumea. I hope she arrives in time. Of course, I can still land ashore and just pound the small forces he has in the area.

[2ndACR]

 Well, it has been a long while since I updated. Work has just been a killer and not left me much free time.
 
We are now into 2 Jan 1942.
 
Well, Enterprise, Lex and Sara are all at the bottom of the Pacific. Sara went down trying to cover my scattering shipping near the West Coast. She did send at least 2 CV's back home for repairs though.
 
I still hold Noumea, Canton Island, Pago Pago, Suva. I think I have stalled him near Noumea with my surface raiders. I have a Aus division at Noumea and they are slowly moving to destroy his landings on the island. Wake just fell, so I would bet Midway is next. Hopefully, he will try another un-capped invasion, because I have roughly 24 SBD's at Midway.
 
He has made no adavnces into Burma yet except for Tavoy. Nemo did try a few isolated airborne drops, but I have crushed those.
 
Russia is battling on the ground. Nemo has taken Vlad and is moving north slowly. I am slowly trying to delay him until hopefully I can drastically raise the forts north. The Russian navy is no more except a few subs I got out. These are currently based out of Anchorage.
 
Nemo has taken Nome, Dutch Harbor and Cold Bay in Alaska. A few airborne invasions have been crushed. I really do not expect him to proceed further here, but will re-inforce slowly until he will have to bring at least 2 divisions to bear to make progress anywhere else up north.
 
Yorktown arrived a few days ago and is making her way south towards Tahiti vis Panama. I plan to build up Tahiti and the surrounding dot bases and make these my forward staging areas. Bora Bora can be built up to size 6 port and size 6 airfield. Plus they are temperate. Massive Engineer units and defense forces are on the way there now. I need base forces more than anything. I have 10 days to go until they arrive. That is my first massive ship and troop arrival.
 
 Nemo just invaded Port Moresby, but I could do little to stop him. I still hold it, but not for long. Manila and Bataan are all that remains on Luzon. Singapore is holding in Malaya. Java is still all mine, but I see him moving towards me. All I can do is fight. Delay is the name of the game right now.
 
I feel in my gut, that Nemo will move for India as his next major invasion. I really feel he will bypass Burma to do this. Burma is defended by the at start forces. Just brigades. India is being fortified and heavily mined. The Royal Navy is sitting in Aden. Once I see where he plans to land, I will shift forces there. The 18th Brit division is moving south towards Calcutta. My Indian forces are slowly fleshing out.
 
Overall, his first turn moves chopped the legs out from under me. But I am on my knees biting his ankles everytime he kicks me. Soon my new legs will arrive and then I can start kicking back. I am not going to fight for PH. The forces there are on their own. I will bypass and move from the south so that I can fully exploit my land based airpower. Right now, my priority is to build up Tahiti area and keep control of New Zealand.

[2ndACR]

Okay, it has been a long time since I updated this AAR. Work has just been brutal over the summer.
 
We are now in April 42. Nemo has taken Ceylon and landed a huge army in India. He has basically destroyed the 18th Brit division. I am trying very hard to contain him, but just do not have the forces needed to stop him. He has way too many avenues to move down. Madras is still mine and all of the bases from Madras to Calcutta. He has almost reached Hyberbad. He has basically stopped all advances in Burma. The Royal navy in India has ceased to exist. No BB's at the moment. 2 due to arrive in 3 days. I have 2 CV's and 1 CVL, a couple CA's and some DD's in Aden. Alot of AK's, TK's and AP's though. I have shifted 8 AP's to Perth and they are almost past Java.
 
China is a static war, he is stalled at Sian by my forces there. He destroyed most of my resources in country. I have taken a few bases from him.
 
Russia, nemo has yet to attack my main defense position. I have 4500 AV behind level 9 forts. The next base up is at level 9 forts awaiting any pull back I need to do. I have 2 div and 2 rifle brigades cut off in southern Russia and am slowly evacing them with 6 US subs.
 
Nemo has PH cut off and I am leaving it at that for now. PH has 30,000 supply left. I have a large sub force shifting the Engineer Reg to Midway (which I still hold). Midway has 8,000 supply and roughly 60 a/c including 12 Cats, 18 SBD, and 16 Marauders. I am going to shift a RCT over to midway on a large AP and try to re-inforce. The subs will shift missions once the South Pac HQ arrives in 5 days.
 
South Pac is stagnant........sort of..........nemo has brought 2 garrison division into Koumac and has just now managed to destroy the cutoff Aus militia div I brought in. I have 580AV in Noumea facing off with his 500 AV. Both of my remaining US CV's and 4 BB's are based at Aukland. The Americal div is in Aukland. The 2nd Marine got butchered when my surface combat group stopped to re-fuel and all that is left is roughly 80AV or so in Noumea. I have basically every engineer unit in the South Pac building like crazy. Pago Pago is level 4 AF and level 5 forts and building. Somoa is being fortified. Suva is level 6 forts and the base next to it is at a level 3 AF and increasing. Once she hits level 4, I will shift to fort building. Sooner or later he will make his move down south.
 
The DEI is basically stagnant. He owns all of Java. Most of the Dutch are in the jungle and I am evacing with single ship convoys to Aus for rebuilding. I still hold Benjamisan and am using that to airlift out very slowly cutoff PI units. So far I have lifted an entire Div and a Reg out. The Regiment is already rebuilt and garrisoning the base above Perth. I have shifted 2 brigades to Northern OZ and am shifting the 6th and 7th Aus divisions north. I am also planning to shift a further 3 CMF divisions north. Perth is my major base in Northern OZ. I have 180,000 supple and 100,000 fuel up there.
 
I am trying to debate my next move. Java is very tempting. He has basically no a/c in the area. Although he could shift rapidly. KB has not been seen since the invasion of India. I have been contemplating a move to Java with the 6th and 7th Aus divisions. I could bring 1 large base force, 1 large aviation regiment, a couple small base forces. If needed, I could bring a further couple CMF div and brigades. And alot of supplies and air power. KB is my pause point. Where is she.
 
He has a huge points lead. 48,000 to 9900 or so. His opening move's caught me by surprise.
 
Any ideas? I can send a current game file on the next send if anyone wants to review the situation.

[pat.casey]

Good to know you're still playing this game; I've been curious to see how things would turn out.

RE: Java

If you go there, I'd think you'd need a lot more than 2 divisions, neh? In one of his AAR's nemo (playing allie) ran an "invade java" gambit and made it work, but he took EVERYTHING to java (the entire RN, pretty much ever non static division in india, and all the aircraft he could crate).

Seems like anything less than a critical mass just invites him to counter-concentrate.

[2ndACR]

Yeah, but his opponent had not tied up a huge portion of his army in India. I still need to do a hard count on his units in India, but it is alot. I have most of Manchuria's army tied down in Russia. IIRC, I have not see a single division in Java. Lots of small regiments and SNLF's. The closest a/c ar at Kendari and Palembang, Singapore. Nothing in Batvia or Soerberia (hate spelling that one).
 
I almost think I could take Java with the 5 divisions I have freed up in OZ along with the 4 brigades there also. I need the US divisions to cover NZ and South Pac area. And I could literally flood Java with a/c after taking a level 4 air base. The 6th, 7th AUS, and the 1st, 3rd, 5th CMF divisions would be a primary assualt force. Roughly 1500AV worth of troops right there. I could shift the Americal division from NZ and send the 27th US from the West Coast to NZ.

[1EyedJacks]

ORIGINAL: 2ndACR

I am trying to debate my next move. Java is very tempting. He has basically no a/c in the area. Although he could shift rapidly. KB has not been seen since the invasion of India. I have been contemplating a move to Java with the 6th and 7th Aus divisions. I could bring 1 large base force, 1 large aviation regiment, a couple small base forces. If needed, I could bring a further couple CMF div and brigades. And alot of supplies and air power. KB is my pause point. Where is she.

He has a huge points lead. 48,000 to 9900 or so. His opening move's caught me by surprise.

Any ideas? I can send a current game file on the next send if anyone wants to review the situation.

How's the Alaska Pipe line look? Maybe you could push a campaign and reinforcements up thru Russia and begin a LR bombing campaign of Japan? Start taking out his HI and he might get a little excited... <grin>.

[2ndACR]

I thought about this one too. He has Dutch Harbour and most of the small islands in the chain. He also has Nome.
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I have not done any serious recon of the area in the last month or so of game time. My main pause, has been that all my available CV's are either the Brits in Aden or both surviving US CV's in Auckland. I feel that I must keep the US navy in the SOPAC area to counter any thrust towards NZ. And in my gut, he will make a move to there. I am building forts as fast as I can in NZ and shipping supplies in as fast as I can. I reckon I have around 1300AV in NZ right now, along with basically the entire US Navy, a large Brit surface combat force around 1 fast BB and around 400 a/c. Mostly fighters. Alot of my bombers are in India, 4E anyway. I do have 40 B19's in Aus.
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&nbsp;The Royal navy in Aden will either move to support a move on Java or basically make life difficult if he goes for northern Aus or around India.

[Alfred]

2ndACR,
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Without the benefit of strategic screen shots, info re enemy LBA dispositions etc, the following can only be some generic comments.
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1.&nbsp; With the enemy at Hyderabad, this indicates a major thrust into India which makes holding Madras, Bengal/Burma in force largely irrelevant and exposes those forces to encirclement.&nbsp; (Even at this late stage, I would still recommend you read the aborted 1EyedJacks v Nemo121 AAR).&nbsp; Madras is now only of limited value if you can place a strong LBA to interdict his SLOC to India.&nbsp; You need to be considering (a) withdrawing into festung Delhi from Bengal/Burma and (b) collecting forces to land behind the lines in southern India as his schwerpunckt moves north from Hyderabad.
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2.&nbsp; A 5 division assault on Java whilst he is pre-occuppied with India could be a good move if (a) you have sufficient sea lift to move all 5 divisions in one wave, (b) can then indefinetely resupply them (and the necessary tranferred LBA to withstand the counterattack launched from internal lines)&nbsp;from Australia (which is doubtful), (c) can within 3 days of your initial landing capture Javanese bases which are in range to bomb Palembang back to the stone age.&nbsp; Not being privy to your actual situation I doubt that you have the capacity to make the move on Java but it is worth further consideration.
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3.&nbsp; You are concerned about New Zealand.&nbsp; I very much doubt that Nemo is interested in New Zealand.&nbsp; Australia is a different matter.&nbsp; If he sees you moving Oz forces out of Australia to Java or Noumea etc he will be tempted to move on Australia.&nbsp; In any case, the best way to stop him from attacking NZ is to capture Noumea, Vanuato and the Solomons.&nbsp; You say he has about 580 AS at Koumac whilst you have about 500 Noumea.&nbsp; If the Java operation is not logistically realistic, you should consider moving your American forces in NZ to (a) crush the enemy at Koumac, (b) capture Vanuato and (c) recapture the Solomons (I assume he captured Lugan on day 2 or 3 of the campaign).&nbsp; You can do this largely under cover of LBA.
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4.&nbsp; You recent posts suggest you are happy to have him pinned down in Siberia.&nbsp; That is not good enough.&nbsp; You need to thrust behind his lines.&nbsp; Start thinking about moving forces to Borczya to launch a strong attack from that base into Manchuria.
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5.&nbsp; He probably has garrisoned his Aleutian/Alaskan bases lightly.&nbsp; Do not reinforce Midway as proposed.&nbsp; If he wants to capture Midway the reinforcements you are planning to send then will not suffice.&nbsp; Instead use the Midway earmarked forces together with whatever else you can scrape up from the North Pacific to recapture the presumably lightly garrisoned enemy bases in the Aleutians/Alaska.&nbsp; The point is that reinforcing Midway and Pearl Harbor is near impossible once he has a secure base for Bettys and Zeros in Hawaii.&nbsp; To counter that you need to be able to interdict his SLOC to Hawaii from the flank ie Aleutians/Alaska.
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6.&nbsp; Most importantly of all, when you start to move your counter attacks, they must be timed to be mutually supportive in time.&nbsp; He can easily use his interior lines of communication to meet one threat - having several threats simultaneously is much more difficult.&nbsp; Do not be overly concerned about being fully prepared.&nbsp; If, as I assume he has brought to India a huge force, then what you need to do is to strike at locations which strategically are vital to him before he can reinforce them.
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Hope these generic thoughts are of value.&nbsp; Any info from you regarding logictics etc will be of benefit in generating more detailed discussion.
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Alfred

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&nbsp;I really suck taking screen shots. If you would like, I can easily send anyone my game file and password for anyone to look over. Since I did not really dive too deep looking over this mod, the amount of troops Nemo had available on turn 1 and the huge supply of PP's really caught me off guard. It really placed me behind the eight ball.
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I need to do a heavy count of troops in India before serious moves are planned. I have been weighing alot of options. I have to wait to make sure the winter effects in North Pac are over before trying anything up there.
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Nemo does have about 500AS in Noumea already with another 600 or so in Koumac. Koumac is all his now. I really think nemo will make a stab at NZ to really cut off Australia from the US. I need to take some of the inititave away from Nemo though. I really hate being completely on the defensive. Noumea will be a death trap for his troops even if he secures the base. I can and will cut that place off. I have thought about making a stab for Lunga which he secured on turn 1 but has not developed in any way. That would really put a crimp in his plans.
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Nemo has roughly 8000AS points in Siberia. Facing them are 4500AS Russians behind level 9 forts. I have 3500 AS sitting up north but the moment I make a move, he will pounce. All 4500 of my Russian troops must remain where they are. Once my evac of cut off troops in the south Russia area is done and they have rebuilt, I will have around 1000 AS free. I have a base down south with roughly 30,000+ supply and growing slowly for the rebuild.
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Java has alot of potential. It would be very risky, but would really cause him some trouble. I have 150,000 supplies sitting in Perth and could bring another 100,000 supply down from Aden. I could place roughly 300 front line fighter into Java along with another 200 bombers in very short order. I could lift the 6th and 7th Aus divisions in one lift on AP's with what I have near Perth. I have roughly 20 AP's sitting in Aden doing nothing which could be shifted south. Along with the Brit CV's.&nbsp; Koepang is still mine so I can leap frog air units in and out. It is very tempting, but I also smell a rat. Nemo has done this too many times, so would probably be expecting it.