Why everyone should play with random weather

[Encircled]

Simply put

Game 1 v Kamil (Ger)

Random weather puts a huge dent in his offensive, resulting in Mud on T6 and his attack stalling

Game 2 v Kamil (Ger)

Random weather strikes all over the map, at exactly the wrong time for the Soviets, resulting in massive German advances all the over the front.

Two different games, two pretty much identical players, two very similar strategies

All affected by Random weather, resulting in two completely different games.

Makes the game far more enjoyable

[Hoooper]

Can't agree with you there, I'm afraid. In one of my games the sudden presence of mud in the middle of Barborossa bopped the German offensive on the head and I've only kept the game alive by playing the Soviet side with ludicrous overconfidence. In another game, the whole Red Army was poleaxed by a couple of snow results when it "should" have been mud, resulting in the unexpected loss of entire Leningrad Front and, in 1942, Astrakhan. In my opinion, random events shouldn't have such serious consequences for the outcome of the game, unless you can think of some way of adjusting the victory criteria to take them into account. It's a bit like flipping a coin to see who has the next move in chess.

[TulliusDetritus]

ORIGINAL: Encircled

Simply put

Game 1 v Kamil (Ger)

Random weather puts a huge dent in his offensive, resulting in Mud on T6 and his attack stalling

Game 2 v Kamil (Ger)

Random weather strikes all over the map, at exactly the wrong time for the Soviets, resulting in massive German advances all the over the front.

Two different games, two pretty much identical players, two very similar strategies

All affected by Random weather, resulting in two completely different games.

Makes the game far more enjoyable

I remember the random weather on your first game, Encircled LOL

Kamil was really jinxed [:D] some of his armored units were trapped by the mud and then surrounded... AND the units you were using to kill them (which you did) were attacking from a non-mud area [8D] A lot of bad luck.

[mmarquo]

"In my opinion, random events shouldn't have such serious consequences for the outcome of the game, unless you can think of some way of adjusting the victory criteria to take them into account. It's a bit like flipping a coin to see who has the next move in chess."

It isn't a great ball buster? The meterologic services were rudimentary at best in ability to give dependable weather forecasts - IMHO it adds a great dimension to the game. BTW, there are several great board games which use chit pulling to detrmine who moves when and they are quite enagaging.

BTW, ask TD if he dislikes random weather....all warm and safe in Moscow as he is...for the moment. Astrakhan you said.....[:)]

Marquo

[TulliusDetritus]

ORIGINAL: Marquo
BTW, ask TD if he dislikes random weather....all warm and safe in Moscow as he is...for the moment. Astrakhan you said.....[:)]

Marquo

Well, the hordes that are chasing you somewhere in the tundra miss Moscow for sure. Still, there's always time to do some party. How many stoves did I capture this turn? 247.532? 1.435.112 since blizzard started? [:D]

[Baelfiin]

ORIGINAL: Hoooper

Can't agree with you there, I'm afraid. In one of my games the sudden presence of mud in the middle of Barborossa bopped the German offensive on the head and I've only kept the game alive by playing the Soviet side with ludicrous overconfidence. In another game, the whole Red Army was poleaxed by a couple of snow results when it "should" have been mud, resulting in the unexpected loss of entire Leningrad Front and, in 1942, Astrakhan. In my opinion, random events shouldn't have such serious consequences for the outcome of the game, unless you can think of some way of adjusting the victory criteria to take them into account. It's a bit like flipping a coin to see who has the next move in chess.

I think the weather changes caught you off guard for sure. Leningrad did get blizzard one turn early (in november) which compounded the situation because First Winter blizzard effects dont take hold until december.

On the flip side, I think fixed weather puts the advantage to the russian side, as they can tailor their defenses, and later on their attacks to what the weather is going to be on the next turn.

In our '43 game even as the german having that foreknowledge of what the weather is going to be makes things much easier (being able to pull 12 panzers out of the line to rest up cause I was positive there was no chance of a breakthrough.