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Close Combat: Panthers in the Fog is the first new release (not a re-make of a previous games) in years in the critically acclaimed Close Combat series. It details the desperate German counter-attack at Mortain, the last chance of the Wehrmacht to stave off defeat in Normandy. Can you match the tenacity of the American defenders of Hill 314? Or can you succeed where the Panzers failed, driving through to the sea and changing history? Improved 32-bit graphics and the ability to control more squads than ever bring the Close Combat engine to a new level.
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Will there be a turn based option as well as Real Time?
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The game will remain very similar to now so real time. We are not changing a winning formula!
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I always imagine how much more I would enjoy CC with a wego option.
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Got my Unity newsletter today. No mention of the 3D game with the others in dev. Maybe they need a poke.
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It will be designed from a top down perspective aswell. From what I've been told, with maybe the possibility to angle the camera a touch. In my opinion this is exactly how I'd have a designed a new CC game aswell, making it 3D like say APOS would have been a mistake, as it would ne longer have that CC feel to it, it may aswell be a totally different game.

This one design decision makes me very hopeful and shows me that the team know exactly what they are doing and are obvious CC fanatics.
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We are carefully considering the issues with moving Close Combat to a 3D engine, and will be working to find the right balance. The goal is to get as much of the benefit of 3D (and being able to see the lay of the land) as we can without losing the 'situational clarity' that the current top-down 2D camera view gives you.  There probably won't be a free-flying / rotating camera, for example.  Or at least not by default.
 
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Thanks for all these answers (I had not seen so much interest for Close combat for a long time!). For me comes Panther in the fog too late as it will be the last CC game on the old engine; even if there are new features I think that the future is your next game engine! I'm happy that you release PitF but if I must admit that as modder I'm more interested by the next engine. Now a crucial question : will the game be mod friendly? Everybody knows that the mods are an important part of the succeess of the serie but also that 3D games are more difficult to mod. What are your plans?
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Now a crucial question : will the game be mod friendly? Everybody knows that the mods are an important part of the succeess of the serie but also that 3D games are more difficult to mod. What are your plans?

Yes, it will be mod-friendly, though the exact details are still being worked out. We definitely want to support things like sound or texture / 'skins' mods. Data modding is also pretty likely. But as you say, replacing 3D models is significantly more complex than just swapping some bitmap files, so I don't want to promise anything that we aren't sure we can deliver.



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If you promise a map editor, I'm happy! [:'(]
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The current plan is that yes, there will be a map editor.  It's a bit too far out to discuss the specifics, though. :)
 
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steve, can you guys skip this title and start work on the 3d one??[:D]
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steve, can you guys skip this title and start work on the 3d one??[:D]

Alas, no. [;)] But on the plus side, we've been discussing a more open development process for both these games. So you'll likely hear alot more about what is being done and how things are going on both.
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Alas, no. [;)] But on the plus side, we've been discussing a more open development process for both these games. So you'll likely hear alot more about what is being done and how things are going on both.

Hats off! I think it's a good approach with the cc demanding community!
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agreed, please dont alienate your customer base. I also think you guys should offering bundle packs.
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more info out to us CC gamers [8D]
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any news on cc 3d?
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any news on cc 3d?

Currently the team is very busy with Panthers in the Fog, once its complete and everything is settled, I'm sure you'll see news from us as it develops :)
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Is a knowledge of no-longer-Google SketchUp going to be of any use for modding the next game?
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I always imagine how much more I would enjoy CC with a wego option.

Actually I´d rather see an updated Steel Panthers. Now THAT´S a game that deserves the 3D and bug slaughter treatment [;)]
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I dont like the idea turning into 3D. I think the CC will lost its "magic" after that. I remember some game called "beyond overlord" or etc. It was 3d game kneeling towards CC-series. It wasnt good. It made the game too confusing.
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