Dave a question?

[wodin]

I keep checking back here to see how things are going and it seems for a long time now it's one step forward two steps back..do you think we are close to finalising BFTB or not?

Thanks

[Arjuna]

Jason,
 
Your a glass half empty type of guy. Me I'm a glass half full type. I reckon it's been two forward one back, not the other way around. The nature of beta testing is an iterative one. Right now I think its 95% full. [:)]

[navwarcol]

I 100% agree with Dave here. The game is incredibly good IMO at this moment. There may, perhaps be some small issues I see in another thread with the return of something which makes certain units extremely powerful... but I have not really seen this at all in any of the games I have played.. not saying it is not there, because I know it may be, but just saying that probably for most people they will seldom notice any issues.

[wodin]

Sorry mate should have rephrased that..I did mean two steps forward one back as I do know your not going backwards:)

95% sounds great.

[Werewolf13]

FWIW - I agree with the OP.

That said:

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a glass half empty guy.

Glass half empty folks see the glass and ask them selves, "what can I do to get it full - how can I make that glass reach its full potential?".

Most half full folks see the glass and think to themselves, "glass is half full - good enough".

Personally - I think the glass half empty folks are responsible for more progress, problems solved, innovations etc than the good enough folks.

Aside: flame away - I'm used to it.

[Fred Sanford]

Sorry Dave, you might as well hang it up. Werewolf#### says you just don't have what it takes.

[navwarcol]

Lol, you are certainly correct there Werewolf.
I do not view myself as either one. In this particular piece,however... I think it is not possible to get a game that mimics something that itself is not perfect, to itself be perfect. In fact when I play I usually just count the random weird pieces as part of the fun. War itself is full of those random, weird, unexplainable things that defy all logic. If war could be broken down into a perfectly analyzed science, certainly my day job would be a lot easier, but also a bit more boring.
So in this, and pretty much any wargame on the market, depending upon what you are looking for, you may or may not have what to you is a perfect game, and a perfect game for one, may be missing something, or get something wrong, that is so important to another. Realizing that, then Dave is in an unenviable position and if he can even get a majority of us to think that the glass is "full enough" then he has done a wonderful job.[:D]

[navwarcol]

I did not see Werewolf saying anything like what you infer, Fred Sanford. He was merely defending the viewpoint of another poster.

[BletchleyGeek]

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[wodin]

+1..however not all think this way.

ORIGINAL: navwarcol

Lol, you are certainly correct there Werewolf.
I do not view myself as either one. In this particular piece,however... I think it is not possible to get a game that mimics something that itself is not perfect, to itself be perfect. In fact when I play I usually just count the random weird pieces as part of the fun. War itself is full of those random, weird, unexplainable things that defy all logic. If war could be broken down into a perfectly analyzed science, certainly my day job would be a lot easier, but also a bit more boring.
So in this, and pretty much any wargame on the market, depending upon what you are looking for, you may or may not have what to you is a perfect game, and a perfect game for one, may be missing something, or get something wrong, that is so important to another. Realizing that, then Dave is in an unenviable position and if he can even get a majority of us to think that the glass is "full enough" then he has done a wonderful job.[:D]

[dazkaz15]

Random weird pieces is fine, and even makes things more enjoyable.
Its when you start to see patterns in the "random" that it should start to ring alarm bells.

I agree with Dave, this version of the game is almost there.
The last patch plays great for the most part.

[Floyd]

My glass is always full - sometimes full of red wine, sometimes full of air [:'(]

[Phoenix100]

Like the Quixotic pic, Miguel....yep....

[dazkaz15]

ORIGINAL: phoenix

Like the Quixotic pic, Miguel....yep....

Quixotic

Crikey Peter!
Have you swallowed a dictionary lately?
I had to look that one up [:D]

Quixotism (/kwɪkˈsɒtɪzəm/ or /kiːˈhoʊtɪzəm/) is impracticality in pursuit of ideals, especially those ideals manifested by rash, lofty and romantic ideas or extravagantly chivalrous action.[1] It also serves to describe an idealism without regard to practicality. An impulsive person or act might be regarded as quixotic.

Quixotism is usually related to "over-idealism", meaning an idealism that doesn't take consequence or absurdity into account. It is also related to naïve romanticism and to utopianism.

[Phoenix100]

Yeah. Because it was a picture of Don Quixote tilting at a windmill, no?

Thanks for the very full explanation, Daz. That describes adequately what Dave is doing, which is why Miguel posted the pic, and referenced the Don (in another thread, I think).

Dave being Don Quixote and poor Miguel being Sancho. (I assume...)

Peter

[dazkaz15]

Its ok I understand the whole reference including Miguel's picture now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Quixote

Its amazing how this forum educates, sometime in ways you never expected [:)]

[Arjuna]

ORIGINAL: phoenix

Yeah. Because it was a picture of Don Quixote tilting at a windmill, no?

Thanks for the very full explanation, Daz. That describes adequately what Dave is doing, which is why Miguel posted the pic, and referenced the Don (in another thread, I think).

Dave being Don Quixote and poor Miguel being Sancho. (I assume...)

Peter

I think I resemble this scurrilous reference. [;)]