turn replay feature

[WanderingHead]

OK, I got no responses in the main forum, so in my mind this must be a bug.

First, not a bug but a missing feature: the turn replay feature doesn't allow you to go back more than one turn. Why not allow the player to rewind all the way to the beginning of the game and play back? Or am I just unable to find this?

Second, a bug: the replay feature does not allow me to see previous battles in this player-turn. If I am Germany, and I do 4 battles in this turn, the only one I can get details for is the very last one, not the first 3. The replay includes movement from this turn but not battle details. Indeed, the "rewind to the last combat" button skips all combats in the current turn.

[Joel Billings]

Only the game history showing region control goes back more than one turn (on the strategic map screen). Turn replay only shows back to the end of your last turn (actually beginning of the last turn by the player after you).

You should be able to see action during you current turn using the turn replay. If not, this is a bug.

[WanderingHead]

ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

Only the game history showing region control goes back more than one turn (on the strategic map screen). Turn replay only shows back to the end of your last turn (actually beginning of the last turn by the player after you).

Yeah, replay farther into the past would be a feature request from me (not a bug report). Sort of low priority, but it caught me by surprise that I couldn't do it.

ORIGINAL: Joel Billings
You should be able to see action during you current turn using the turn replay. If not, this is a bug.

Exactly. I can replay the movement of the current turn, but not the combat results or detailed combat report from the current turn.

[Joel Billings]

Is your preference set to show the combat pop-up (a combat report delay greater than 0?). Are you seeing the combat report when you are attacking during your turn?

[reznap]

I cannot use Turn Replay feature at all since the Play/Forward/Reverse buttons (on the round panel) are all garbled and unavailable.

I am using ATI Raedon 9600XT 64Mb video card.

[WanderingHead]

ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

Is your preference set to show the combat pop-up (a combat report delay greater than 0?). Are you seeing the combat report when you are attacking during your turn?

pop-up delay =0.33, combat report delay =5.00

Yes, I get the combat pop up and I can get the detailed report just after each battle. What I am unable to do is go back a couple of battles (this turn) and review the details.

E.g. 1st turn Germany, I take the Netherlands, then France. Then I decide I need to understand exactly what happpened in the Netherlands ... at this time I can get the details for France but not the older combat in the Netherlands.

[Joel Billings]

ORIGINAL: reznap

I cannot use Turn Replay feature at all since the Play/Forward/Reverse buttons (on the round panel) are all garbled and unavailable.

I am using ATI Raedon 9600XT 64Mb video card.

This has been noticed when using Alt-Tab a lot and possibly when different games/saves are loaded without exiting the program between games. If you save, exit out of the program, run the program and load the save, the buttons should be back ok. So far those reporting missing buttons are all Alt-Tabbing. I'm not sure if this is better when using Windowed mode or not. Have you tried Windowed Mode?

[Joel Billings]

ORIGINAL: WanderingHead

ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

Is your preference set to show the combat pop-up (a combat report delay greater than 0?). Are you seeing the combat report when you are attacking during your turn?

pop-up delay =0.33, combat report delay =5.00

Yes, I get the combat pop up and I can get the detailed report just after each battle. What I am unable to do is go back a couple of battles (this turn) and review the details.

E.g. 1st turn Germany, I take the Netherlands, then France. Then I decide I need to understand exactly what happpened in the Netherlands ... at this time I can get the details for France but not the older combat in the Netherlands.

So to make sure I am understanding this correctly, are you not being shown the Netherlands battle at all when you press the replay? If you do get it, then with your settings you should be able to see the after battle combat report for the Netherlands battle and if you click on the detailed info button on the small pop-up you would see the full screen combat report for the Netherlands. This is what should be happening. I tried this myself and was able to see the Netherlands battle and the full screen info for it at that moment when it showed it during the turn replay.

[WanderingHead]

ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

ORIGINAL: WanderingHead

ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

Is your preference set to show the combat pop-up (a combat report delay greater than 0?). Are you seeing the combat report when you are attacking during your turn?

pop-up delay =0.33, combat report delay =5.00

Yes, I get the combat pop up and I can get the detailed report just after each battle. What I am unable to do is go back a couple of battles (this turn) and review the details.

E.g. 1st turn Germany, I take the Netherlands, then France. Then I decide I need to understand exactly what happpened in the Netherlands ... at this time I can get the details for France but not the older combat in the Netherlands.

So to make sure I am understanding this correctly, are you not being shown the Netherlands battle at all when you press the replay? If you do get it, then with your settings you should be able to see the after battle combat report for the Netherlands battle and if you click on the detailed info button on the small pop-up you would see the full screen combat report for the Netherlands. This is what should be happening. I tried this myself and was able to see the Netherlands battle and the full screen info for it at that moment when it showed it during the turn replay.

OK, that was an example trying to explain the situation, not a description of anything I tried ...

It seems inconsistent. I get a few weird outcomes. None correspond to what I saw the other day. In general, the test I'm doing now is start game as Germany, invade Netherlands, invade France. Turn on replay, set to last frame. "Rewind to last combat" once (should give me Western France). "Rewind to last combat" again (should give me Netherlands).

First time I tried this, the western France battle came up in replay just right, then I rewinded again and it did move to the proper frame for the Netherlands combat (which I did not see the other day ... but then this is the first turn, maybe it behaves differently than in subsequent turns). But the battle summary did not pop up. However, I could go to the detailed combat results screen (I'd still like a territory identifier in there so you know what the combat is ... in this context [no combat summary window appeared] I could only tell it was the Netherlands because it was infantry not tanks).

Then, I've retried this and it worked exactly right.

Then I retried it and when I rewind to W France combat, then to the Netherlands combat, and the Western France combat summary window stays up, Netherlands does not pop up.

Anyway, none of this is what I saw before. Last night (looking at turn 6 or so) the "Rewind to last combat" button basically ignored combats from the current turn. The combats in question were 4 subs that attacked transports in the Mediterranean. I don't have a save of that, but I generated a new save. Summer 1941, 4 subs make 4 separate attacks against transports. Now I can rewind and see the units (subs) moving and WA transports appearing/disappearing, but I can't get the combats.

I can't figure out how to attach files here (I saw that others did it ...?), so I'll mail in the save file.

[Joel Billings]

I just emailed you. I've seen a few reports of combats that were missed in the turn replay. We've never pinned down what the problem is. If you have a save before the combat is skipped, and can use it to recreate a skipped combat, it would make it much easier for the programmer to figure out the problem. Your save showing the subs clearly shows some combats were missed by the replay that should be there. We'll look at this, but a "before" save that duplicates the problem would help a lot. Thanks for sending the save, and anyone that has a save where they can make a combat happen that won't show up in the replay, please send it to 2by3@2by3games.com with instructions on how to duplicate the problem. Thanks.

[WanderingHead]

ORIGINAL: WanderingHead
Anyway, none of this is what I saw before. Last night (looking at turn 6 or so) the "Rewind to last combat" button basically ignored combats from the current turn. The combats in question were 4 subs that attacked transports in the Mediterranean.

My description was inaccurate. The place where I originally saw this was 4 subs attacking transports in the Atlantic, not the Mediterranean. The same as the saved file I sent.