PzB vs Wobbly - Clash of Steel
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RE: Celebrating 100k hits and 755 days of war!
Look at what the USN gets in 44, about 25+ DDs and DEs per MONTH. [:)]
RE: Celebrating 100k hits and 755 days of war!
Congrats PzB [:)]
Count me in!
Count me in!
RE: Celebrating 100k hits and 755 days of war!
Great Job John!! I haven't posted in a while but I lurk every day hoping for an update. My fav event so far was when Wobbly was planning his diversion to make you shift forces from the India attack and came up with the Java invasion. It had me on the edge of my seat.
RE: Celebrating 100k hits and 755 days of war!
hi, i'm not lurker, but want to say that i was hooked to your AAR back in UV days... i knew that you will do the job in WiTP too so i started to follow your AAR from the first days...
RE: Celebrating 100k hits and 755 days of war!
If you're doing requests, could we see the Top Pilot screen?
Any veterans who's survived all the way since Pearl Harbor?
Any veterans who's survived all the way since Pearl Harbor?
RE: Celebrating 100k hits and 755 days of war!
Congrats! 100 000 views is a lot [:D]
RE: Celebrating 100k hits and 755 days of war!
What those guys said! Awesome job! Reading this AAR made me drop UV in the middle of my first game and dive right into WitP. Keep it up, I can't wait to see what happens next.[&o][&o][&o]
RE: Celebrating 100k hits and 755 days of war!
Wow - lots of people I've never met before! Redd, Rotor, Hipper, Lyceum, Wolfie - nice to hear from you. Close to 20 posters now - guess this is 75% of the regular readers of this thread! Please don't refrain from posting comments: I'm rather stubborn, but I still appreciate all advice and input [:)]
Any more out there?
Tomorrow the Shokaku and Zuikakau will perform their 0144 upgrade! Some of you may find this a waste of time, but one day it may be just this extra flak that helped shoot down that Helldiver (which would otherwise have blown up the ship!). Impossible to say and we need all the leverage we can get against a superior enemy!
33 of the remaining destroyers on the production line are Matsu class ships...not the best in the armory to say
the least! Capable of only 28 knots they will be relegated to escort and asw duties!
From 'Combined Fleet' web page:
The Matsu Class
These were late-war expedients, and as such were hardly the most graceful vessels to ever ply the waves: straight stems with little flare, kinda dumpy looking, and armed more like a DE than a real fleet destroyer. In the final analysis, though, they were pretty decent convoy escorts. The Japanese really ought to have built about two hundred more of these puppies (and started doing so as soon as the balloon went up) if they were really serious about protecting their enormously exposed maritime supply lines from our submarines. Fortunately, they didn't get serious about ASW until 1944, and by then it was way too late.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/02/44
Ground Combat
The Army regiment is now completely exhausted: only 2 squads left...Banzai charge
tomorrow! The General Lt in command has been picked up by a sub and evacuated.
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Ground combat at Maloelap
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 22992 troops, 139 guns, 123 vehicles
Defending force 3636 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied assault odds: 152 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
1084 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Allied ground losses:
171 casualties reported
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Top Aces 01-44
As you can see most of my top aces are KIA or missing! Ace or no ace, going
up in a Zeke against a Corsair or Hellcat isn't good for your health...
Any other requests!? [8D]
Any more out there?
Tomorrow the Shokaku and Zuikakau will perform their 0144 upgrade! Some of you may find this a waste of time, but one day it may be just this extra flak that helped shoot down that Helldiver (which would otherwise have blown up the ship!). Impossible to say and we need all the leverage we can get against a superior enemy!
33 of the remaining destroyers on the production line are Matsu class ships...not the best in the armory to say
the least! Capable of only 28 knots they will be relegated to escort and asw duties!
From 'Combined Fleet' web page:
The Matsu Class
These were late-war expedients, and as such were hardly the most graceful vessels to ever ply the waves: straight stems with little flare, kinda dumpy looking, and armed more like a DE than a real fleet destroyer. In the final analysis, though, they were pretty decent convoy escorts. The Japanese really ought to have built about two hundred more of these puppies (and started doing so as soon as the balloon went up) if they were really serious about protecting their enormously exposed maritime supply lines from our submarines. Fortunately, they didn't get serious about ASW until 1944, and by then it was way too late.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/02/44
Ground Combat
The Army regiment is now completely exhausted: only 2 squads left...Banzai charge
tomorrow! The General Lt in command has been picked up by a sub and evacuated.
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Ground combat at Maloelap
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 22992 troops, 139 guns, 123 vehicles
Defending force 3636 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied assault odds: 152 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
1084 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Allied ground losses:
171 casualties reported
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Top Aces 01-44
As you can see most of my top aces are KIA or missing! Ace or no ace, going
up in a Zeke against a Corsair or Hellcat isn't good for your health...
Any other requests!? [8D]
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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Celebrating 100k hits and 755 days of war!
When I started lurking the WITP forum in July 2005, I went to the AAR section and read bits and pieces of AARs, oddly I noticed in all them comments such as "well India can be taken, look at PZB AAR", or "even the best jap player such as PZB couldn't do that", etc...
So I found that AAR and have been reading it eversince...
Cheers PZB.
So I found that AAR and have been reading it eversince...
Cheers PZB.
Adieu Ô Dieu odieux... signé Adam
RE: Celebrating 100k hits and 755 days of war!
Guess we can follow Nakajima's career from now on Honda [;)]
Welcome Veji, you've posted here before...havn't you? Too much praise can make even Gawd blush [:'(]
I guess the most important thing is to belive in what you're doing - and that hasn't been too difficult in this game
since the going has mostly been good. The hard part is yet to come!
Really difficult to find good pictures of Matsu class destroyers..here's the Sumire!
Welcome Veji, you've posted here before...havn't you? Too much praise can make even Gawd blush [:'(]
I guess the most important thing is to belive in what you're doing - and that hasn't been too difficult in this game
since the going has mostly been good. The hard part is yet to come!
Really difficult to find good pictures of Matsu class destroyers..here's the Sumire!
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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Celebrating 100k hits and 755 days of war!
Been following this AAR long after I gave up WitP. I really like the amount of info we get, not too much, not too little.
Lykke til videre!
Lykke til videre!
Cheers,
Panzer
"The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either."
Benjamin Franklin
Panzer
"The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either."
Benjamin Franklin
RE: Celebrating 100k hits and 755 days of war!
Yeah, well done! Been following this since day 1 [8D]
I love your screenshots, defensive strategies, and of course the Fall of India! Keep it up [:D]
I love your screenshots, defensive strategies, and of course the Fall of India! Keep it up [:D]
RE: Celebrating 100k hits and 755 days of war!
It's understandable that not everyone have time for a massive game as WitP! A bit afraid I'll be hard
pressed to play more than 4-5 turns pr week myself soon. When I don't get my beauty sleep I just loose interest...for
more than WitP [8|]
Yep, India is the big catch! New maps, patches and know-how has made this adventure more and more difficult - but I still
think it's doable.
Soo many cargo and transport ships on the production line: and I don't really need them! Afraid they will only provide points
for Andy in a year or so. Can't halt their production, so maybe we can dig them into the ground as fortifications on atolls!? [:'(]
Spies in Darwin reported that the USS Sargo sank just outside of the Australian port yesterday [:'(]
Spotted some enemy ships between the Marshalls and Wake Island!? Not sure Andy is ready to launch another
offensive, need some R&R first me thinks...but you never know!
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/03/44
Sub/ASW Attacks
A few asw attacks - but no results! Still lots of subs in the China Sea...
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ASW attack at 35,48
Japanese Ships
PC Ch 19
PC Shonan Maru #2
PC Kyo Maru #7
PC KanjuPC Etoforu
Allied Ships
SS Bluefish
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ASW attack at 35,48
Japanese Ships
PC Ch 19
PC Shonan Maru #2
PC Kyo Maru #7
PC Kanju
PC Etoforu
Allied Ships
SS Bluefish
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Air Combat
Strikes against Eniwetok, Wotje, Maloelap and Emirau!
Day Air attack on TF at 61,83 - tried to move a damaged transport from Emirau but it was caught despite
of the bad weather.
Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 34
Spitfire VIII x 7
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 19
P-38J Lightning x 28
P-47D Thunderbolt x 11
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AK Melbourne Maru, Bomb hits 12, on fire, heavy damage
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Map over Northern Japan
As you can see I'm in the process of reinforcing the Northern Approaches to the Empire.
Tomorrow I'm relasing an aviation regiment with 250 aviation support for Shikka! An enemy
invasion will be bogged down, counter-attacked, attacked and destroyed [;)]
pressed to play more than 4-5 turns pr week myself soon. When I don't get my beauty sleep I just loose interest...for
more than WitP [8|]
Yep, India is the big catch! New maps, patches and know-how has made this adventure more and more difficult - but I still
think it's doable.
Soo many cargo and transport ships on the production line: and I don't really need them! Afraid they will only provide points
for Andy in a year or so. Can't halt their production, so maybe we can dig them into the ground as fortifications on atolls!? [:'(]
Spies in Darwin reported that the USS Sargo sank just outside of the Australian port yesterday [:'(]
Spotted some enemy ships between the Marshalls and Wake Island!? Not sure Andy is ready to launch another
offensive, need some R&R first me thinks...but you never know!
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/03/44
Sub/ASW Attacks
A few asw attacks - but no results! Still lots of subs in the China Sea...
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ASW attack at 35,48
Japanese Ships
PC Ch 19
PC Shonan Maru #2
PC Kyo Maru #7
PC KanjuPC Etoforu
Allied Ships
SS Bluefish
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ASW attack at 35,48
Japanese Ships
PC Ch 19
PC Shonan Maru #2
PC Kyo Maru #7
PC Kanju
PC Etoforu
Allied Ships
SS Bluefish
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Air Combat
Strikes against Eniwetok, Wotje, Maloelap and Emirau!
Day Air attack on TF at 61,83 - tried to move a damaged transport from Emirau but it was caught despite
of the bad weather.
Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 34
Spitfire VIII x 7
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 19
P-38J Lightning x 28
P-47D Thunderbolt x 11
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AK Melbourne Maru, Bomb hits 12, on fire, heavy damage
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Map over Northern Japan
As you can see I'm in the process of reinforcing the Northern Approaches to the Empire.
Tomorrow I'm relasing an aviation regiment with 250 aviation support for Shikka! An enemy
invasion will be bogged down, counter-attacked, attacked and destroyed [;)]
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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
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RE: Celebrating 100k hits and 755 days of war!
ORIGINAL: PzB
Guess we can follow Nakajima's career from now on Honda [;)]
Welcome Veji, you've posted here before...havn't you? Too much praise can make even Gawd blush [:'(]
I guess the most important thing is to belive in what you're doing - and that hasn't been too difficult in this game
since the going has mostly been good. The hard part is yet to come!
Really difficult to find good pictures of Matsu class destroyers..here's the Sumire!
You are right, that is a very ugly duckling.
Floating brick come to mind.
RE: Celebrating 100k hits and 755 days of war!
Beauty has had to give in to efficiency and cost effective production Feurer!
Upgraded yet another Dinah II recon group to the much more efficient Dinah III model today.
Only one group with the old model left - in all 900 Dinah IIIs have been used and a production
run of 72 ac pr month has barely been sufficient!
The Shokaku and Zuikakau received a much heavier AA suite today: 70 25mm AA guns! The ships now
got an AA rating of 1038 - that's even acceptable in the 'Allied camp'! Next upgrade: 07/44
(In mid 44 90% of ALL Jap warships are due for an upgrade).
8 more days until major air and ground reinforcements arrive!
Moving 2 brigades and one regiment out from Soerabaja: they will defend the islands between Java and
Timor. This is the last 'opening' in the Defensive Perimeter. Further efforts will be concentrated in
around Northern New Guinea. Most of the January reinforcements will be used for this purpose. After that
it's time to build a reserve and mann the seconady defensive lines.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/04/44
Air Strikes
Wewak is hit and 6 transports are destroyed!
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Day Air attack on Wewak , at 52,81
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 46
B-17E Fortress x 28
PB4Y Liberator x 12
B-24J Liberator x 66
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-57-II Topsy: 4 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged
PB4Y Liberator: 3 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 17
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 78
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Central Pacific
Wake and Marcus Islands are the outmost bases in the Main Defensive Line. It's possible
Andy will make a move against them! They're both atolls and without LBA support it will be
difficult to 'soften them up'!
Upgraded yet another Dinah II recon group to the much more efficient Dinah III model today.
Only one group with the old model left - in all 900 Dinah IIIs have been used and a production
run of 72 ac pr month has barely been sufficient!
The Shokaku and Zuikakau received a much heavier AA suite today: 70 25mm AA guns! The ships now
got an AA rating of 1038 - that's even acceptable in the 'Allied camp'! Next upgrade: 07/44
(In mid 44 90% of ALL Jap warships are due for an upgrade).
8 more days until major air and ground reinforcements arrive!
Moving 2 brigades and one regiment out from Soerabaja: they will defend the islands between Java and
Timor. This is the last 'opening' in the Defensive Perimeter. Further efforts will be concentrated in
around Northern New Guinea. Most of the January reinforcements will be used for this purpose. After that
it's time to build a reserve and mann the seconady defensive lines.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/04/44
Air Strikes
Wewak is hit and 6 transports are destroyed!
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Day Air attack on Wewak , at 52,81
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 46
B-17E Fortress x 28
PB4Y Liberator x 12
B-24J Liberator x 66
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-57-II Topsy: 4 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged
PB4Y Liberator: 3 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 17
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 78
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Central Pacific
Wake and Marcus Islands are the outmost bases in the Main Defensive Line. It's possible
Andy will make a move against them! They're both atolls and without LBA support it will be
difficult to 'soften them up'!
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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Celebrating 100k hits and 755 days of war!
ORIGINAL: PzB
Soo many cargo and transport ships on the production line: and I don't really need them! Afraid they will only provide points
for Andy in a year or so. Can't halt their production, so maybe we can dig them into the ground as fortifications on atolls!? [:'(]
Why can't you halt them?
Stop them, halt our merchant shipyards and save the resources expended on targets!
Robert Lee
RE: Celebrating 100k hits and 755 days of war!
Moving more and more base force units to the Philippines and Borneo - the area will become an impregnible
fortress! Told Andy about how many divisions and brigades that will arrive before the end of the year. Always
nice to return a favor...not very kewl to listen to Allied fanboys ranting about how many carriers they're going
to receive in 44-45! [:'(]
Increased production of Nakajima and Mitsubishi engines again! Very difficult to keep up with demands. Halted production
of 80 Sallys pr month: got 450 in the pools. The last big battles taught me that we need huge pools of Zekes, Oscars, Bettys,
Sallys +++ ac! The butchers bill will be enormous and droves of planes will need to be replaced - especially when Andy triggers
the Kamikazes. This will happen when he invades a base 15 hexes from the Home Islands as well as a few other bases including...Takao.
Have to check the manual to be sure.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/05/44
Sub/ASW Attacks
A battle took place between the USS Robalo and one of my big tanker convoys! The convoy
got an escort group + a strong asw screen. The Robalo still managed to hit a tanker before
being damaged itself. The tanker should make it back to Brunei!
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ASW attack at 35,54
Japanese Ships
TK Kyuei Maru
TK Yamazuru Maru
PC Ch 23
PC Ch 2
PC Tama Maru #8
PG Santos Maru
PG Saiko Maru
PG Kogyoku Maru
PG Kiso Maru
PG Kanko Maru
MSW Toshi Maru #7
MSW Kyo Maru #3
MSW Hinode Maru #18
MSW Hinode Maru #17
DD Arashio
Allied Ships
SS Robalo
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ASW attack at 35,54
Japanese Ships
PC Shonan Maru #17
PC Fumi Maru #3
PG Shinko Maru #3
PG Nikkai Maru
PG Kyo Maru #10
PG Keiko Maru
PG Chosa Maru
Allied Ships
SS Robalo
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Sub attack at 35,54
Japanese Ships
TK San Ramon Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
PC Ch 23
PC Ch 2
PC Tama Maru #8
PG Santos Maru
PG Saiko Maru
PG Kogyoku Maru
PG Kiso Maru
PG Kanko Maru
MSW Toshi Maru #7
MSW Kyo Maru #3
MSW Hinode Maru #18
MSW Hinode Maru #17
DD Arashio
Allied Ships
SS Robalo, hits 1, on fire
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Cargo Ship Construction
I took another look at cargo ship production bbbf - the reason I said it wasn't possible to halt it was that
I've tried to do it before but couldn't! After experimenting a bit I found that AK/APs that are more than 120
days from completion hasn't really been started and can't be halted (the game doesn't allow you to anyway).
In a way this makes sense, larger ships (build rate >10) can be halted up to 200 days before completion.
So now I've halted most of the cargo and troop transports - will finish those that are due within a month or so.
The production of tankers and auxilliaries will continue, accelerating another two MLEs.
Over the next few months I will build a large merchant marine production pool before closing down the yards.
This is the best way to prepare for total war in 1945!
fortress! Told Andy about how many divisions and brigades that will arrive before the end of the year. Always
nice to return a favor...not very kewl to listen to Allied fanboys ranting about how many carriers they're going
to receive in 44-45! [:'(]
Increased production of Nakajima and Mitsubishi engines again! Very difficult to keep up with demands. Halted production
of 80 Sallys pr month: got 450 in the pools. The last big battles taught me that we need huge pools of Zekes, Oscars, Bettys,
Sallys +++ ac! The butchers bill will be enormous and droves of planes will need to be replaced - especially when Andy triggers
the Kamikazes. This will happen when he invades a base 15 hexes from the Home Islands as well as a few other bases including...Takao.
Have to check the manual to be sure.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/05/44
Sub/ASW Attacks
A battle took place between the USS Robalo and one of my big tanker convoys! The convoy
got an escort group + a strong asw screen. The Robalo still managed to hit a tanker before
being damaged itself. The tanker should make it back to Brunei!
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ASW attack at 35,54
Japanese Ships
TK Kyuei Maru
TK Yamazuru Maru
PC Ch 23
PC Ch 2
PC Tama Maru #8
PG Santos Maru
PG Saiko Maru
PG Kogyoku Maru
PG Kiso Maru
PG Kanko Maru
MSW Toshi Maru #7
MSW Kyo Maru #3
MSW Hinode Maru #18
MSW Hinode Maru #17
DD Arashio
Allied Ships
SS Robalo
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ASW attack at 35,54
Japanese Ships
PC Shonan Maru #17
PC Fumi Maru #3
PG Shinko Maru #3
PG Nikkai Maru
PG Kyo Maru #10
PG Keiko Maru
PG Chosa Maru
Allied Ships
SS Robalo
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Sub attack at 35,54
Japanese Ships
TK San Ramon Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
PC Ch 23
PC Ch 2
PC Tama Maru #8
PG Santos Maru
PG Saiko Maru
PG Kogyoku Maru
PG Kiso Maru
PG Kanko Maru
MSW Toshi Maru #7
MSW Kyo Maru #3
MSW Hinode Maru #18
MSW Hinode Maru #17
DD Arashio
Allied Ships
SS Robalo, hits 1, on fire
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Cargo Ship Construction
I took another look at cargo ship production bbbf - the reason I said it wasn't possible to halt it was that
I've tried to do it before but couldn't! After experimenting a bit I found that AK/APs that are more than 120
days from completion hasn't really been started and can't be halted (the game doesn't allow you to anyway).
In a way this makes sense, larger ships (build rate >10) can be halted up to 200 days before completion.
So now I've halted most of the cargo and troop transports - will finish those that are due within a month or so.
The production of tankers and auxilliaries will continue, accelerating another two MLEs.
Over the next few months I will build a large merchant marine production pool before closing down the yards.
This is the best way to prepare for total war in 1945!
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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Celebrating 100k hits and 755 days of war!
ORIGINAL: Feurer Krieg
You are right, that is a very ugly duckling.
Floating brick come to mind.
It's may be ugly, it's may be slow but i think this class is quite useful. Although their speed (28 knots) isn't enough for escorting KB, their high AA rating (400 and more?) and DC Type 2 makes them perfect for Baby KB and Escort carrier division(s) escort. They have a radar too, which could make them more efficient...
PzB, perhaps you can use this DDs and escort carriers as decoy fleet in the future "Mother of all battles" instead historical decoy fleet - KB?!
Of course it is suicide mission but if enemy carriers hit this decoy fleet first maybe they will lost some of their tactical bombers and you could inflict significant damage with real KB next turn?