Aztez (Allies) vs Erstad (Japan)
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RE: Japanese army lands in Derby... +400 000 enemy troops capture Changsa...
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RE: Japanese army lands in Derby... +400 000 enemy troops capture Changsa...
Hes like a bad rash that just wont quit ! Sorry i cant really give any advice , ive never faced anything like this before. but i can give moral support at least.
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[:D][:D] sorry for the spelling . English is my main language , I just can't type . and i'm too lazy to edit 
RE: Japanese army lands in Derby... +400 000 enemy troops capture Changsa...
I think patience is the way to go at the moment! [8|]
I need more troops, ships and aircraft in order to deal with the evil empire! [:-]
I'am tempted to assault Canton Island but it's risky... 7 IJN units garrisoning the island is quite much and if the invasion goes bad than.... [:(][:D][:D][:D]
I need more troops, ships and aircraft in order to deal with the evil empire! [:-]
I'am tempted to assault Canton Island but it's risky... 7 IJN units garrisoning the island is quite much and if the invasion goes bad than.... [:(][:D][:D][:D]
RE: Japanese army lands in Derby... +400 000 enemy troops capture Changsa...
Now you know how I felt. I'll let you know where my game is against him, now that he's coming closer to having caught up. I figured he run around such as he has, but I didn't consider it my place to tip his hand. Now that he -has- rolled thru tho, I figure I can give you some of my I've got a 2-day turns game against him. We're at 09-15-42 (P-38s in 15 days!).
Yours is a very different game tho. I get the "feel" that my game is SLOWLY turning -my- way, but I haven't take nearly the losses that you have. And China is stood down.
I figured out very quickly that he drops the whole anvil on your head every time (massive transport TF with 100 ships and lots of LCUs, ecorted by KB).
He actually ignored most of the SRA until March (didn't have to attack, Dutch stack the oil neatly anyways). Used the invasion bonus to make landings elsewhere like PM and SoPac.
My original plan was build a "fortress Timor" with the Dutch, and his lack of attention to SRA allowed me to do so. Instead he pushed into Bismark Sea and SWPac and SoPac. Thru a bit of recognizing "Holy SHIT he's fast!", and a dose of luck, I have managed to "survive".
First partial victory was at Canton Island. I had litterally just unloaded an INF Div + CD + AAA, the turn before. His invasion ran right into a brick wall. It was a little annoying tho, because with his 100 ship TF, he auto-loaded everyone, before I could counter-attack his invasion (*sigh*). The CD units had also shot up some transports, and when KB bombed the place, the AAA unit downed maybe 15 planes. My victory was pyrric however, because he zoomed south with KB, and nailed the trasports (sank about 40). Still, I had stopped him, sank some transports, and downed some of his elite pilots (at the cost of 40 transports, that hurt, worst loss thus far, but could be MUCH worse).
Next major fight came at Noumea/Lugaville/Efate. We were having the usual LBA exchange. I figured something was coming. I don't think he knew how much stuff I actually had there (about 3 Divisions at Noumea, and 1+ at Luganville). The anvil came south, I think the intended invasion was at Luganville. He tried a paradrop into Efate with invasion at Luganville. I had some guys at Efate, it was close pitched. He dropped more guys in, still close. His last minute recons of Luganville showed I had reinforced the place (I think he learned his lesson at Canton Island). So the anvil diverted to Efate. He caputured Efate. He also lands a million ENG units, to zoom up the base size. Efate went to an AF(4) in about a week. Lots of air battles over Efate/Noumea for about a month, but I wore him down (with B-26s, P-39s and P-40s, no B-17s). Had my CVs hanging south of Noumea, feeding in extra fighters.
Efate was now a sh_t hole (AF and port damage at 99). He came back about 3 weeks later with mega-KB (I put a bomb into Ryujo!), pulled some of the troops, and started taking the islands in SoPac (Pago-Pago, Fun-n-fruity, that chain). With KB & company in SoPac, I re-invaded Efate, and recaptured it. Also, when I saw him coming for Noumea/Efate, I sent another Div+ to Suva. Some major luck there. He was landing at Ndini as I was landing reinformcents at Suva (on the other side of the island!). Bad weather held, and he didn't spot my transports until they were pulling out. He chased a few of them, maybe sank 5 - 6, but Suva was reinforced. Meanwhile, he had captured Pago Pago, Fun-n-fruity, Upulu and that chain.
KB went back to support invasion at Timor. Timor fell rather quickly (was disappointed in that), but I wasn't surprised. The "Timor Alamo" plan was an old strategy (this game is over a year old, Dave needed to take about 4 months off at one point). It didn't last long vs. bombardment, LBA, and KB. However, My B-17s from Darwin laucnhed twice. I lost about 80 B-17s, but shot down another 40 elite Zeros. Was disappointed that I didn't score a single hit vs. KB, but still, I killed elite pilots. I wouldn't do the Timor Alamo plan again, doesn't work and could see that even before KB showed up for the coup de gras.
Meanwhile, Suva held vs. his attack (not surprising). But I wasn't strong enough to recapture Ndini (I tried, he had about 2 Divs). Suva also wasn't a large airbase, so couldn't just bomb him into submission. Sent more troops (2+ Div) from PH. Was able to send the convoy with less risk, since KB was playing at Timor. It took a little while, because had to take the long way around Pago-Pago, but I got them on the ground at Suva. I managed recently recaptured Ndini.
THe current status of our game is a bit of a detante'.
He owns Burma. I own India (and I seriously doubt he can make a move there) and Akyab. I've also leveled every resource/oil in Burma and South East Asia (except Bankok). I am gearing for an invasion of Andaman and ... [strategy witheld].
He owns SRA (duh).
He made a few bombardments vs. north Oz, but B-17s and Beuforts have kept him at bay. If he were to land at Oz, I'm pretty sure I'd kick his a$$.
SWPac is fairly quiet. B-17s keep his planes out of New Guinea. I still get intel messages about an invasion of Cairnes (again, like to see that happen), but I've got plenty on the ground in Oz, and my LBA would make him cry at this point.
SoPac I own Noumea/Lugan/Efate and Suva/Ndini. He owns Pago-Pago and that chain, I own Canton Island and north to PH. All are heavily reinforced. Plans are well underway for invasion of Pago-Pago. I've also got all my CVs (6 USN + 3 RN + CVE + CVL) roaming SoPac (well defended, with AAA upgrades, and lots of escorts). I had a bombardment TF of 6 BBs, but he zoomed in with a lite KB (probably 4 CVs), and hit rearming at Suva. There was a small window where my BBs were pulling in, and my CVs were a few spaces back, and he threaded it. Nothing will sink, but 4 of my BBs will be in the yards for a while. I -almost- nailed him with my CVs, but he's wiley, and he timed that very well (my BBs are faster than my CVs, which are following the pokey Hermes and Long Island).
I would have loved to have gotten into that CV vs. CV scrap. My pilots are 80+ exp. I'm sure his are close (considering still lots of elite, but have taken some casualties). I'd have traded 1 to 1, but it didn't happen. Instead I got 4 BBs damaged, but oh well. It was nice to watch -HIM- run for a change.
Basically, my strategy was to build a few bastions that he can't take, and to limit his victories elswhere to, "a victory, but not decisive". Frankly, I'm not sure what he's up to at this point. But the initiative seems to be tilting my way. I'm re-opening SoPac, and my LBA is doing a good job of keeping him in check. With the P-38s, I'll actually have escorts for my bombers (that's gotta help!). I simply intend to advance under my LBA unbrella, and try to proke a CV exchange. My goal is to have recaptured SoPac and complete the CBI operation by Christmas. Naturally, Dave (Erstad) will do his best to meddle with this. But all my CVs are intact, and upgraded (altho those 10-42 refits are just around the corner, I'll have to schedule those in). Again, it feels like the initiative is blowing my way. It's just a light breeze, but I'll take it.
Honestly tho, in your game, I'd hunker down Pearl Harbor, Oz, and India. He's got a lot more inertia in your game. I really don't know, but I'd watch for an invasion of Palmyra. Once he's done with SoPac, he'll likely look to invade the line islands (if he hasn't arleady). From there, he can raid the lanes to Pearl Harbor, or worse cut it off and invade the place.
There, I managed to hold my toungue, so as to be polite and not unveil Dave's strategy. At this point, your game is VERY different than mine.
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Yours is a very different game tho. I get the "feel" that my game is SLOWLY turning -my- way, but I haven't take nearly the losses that you have. And China is stood down.
I figured out very quickly that he drops the whole anvil on your head every time (massive transport TF with 100 ships and lots of LCUs, ecorted by KB).
He actually ignored most of the SRA until March (didn't have to attack, Dutch stack the oil neatly anyways). Used the invasion bonus to make landings elsewhere like PM and SoPac.
My original plan was build a "fortress Timor" with the Dutch, and his lack of attention to SRA allowed me to do so. Instead he pushed into Bismark Sea and SWPac and SoPac. Thru a bit of recognizing "Holy SHIT he's fast!", and a dose of luck, I have managed to "survive".
First partial victory was at Canton Island. I had litterally just unloaded an INF Div + CD + AAA, the turn before. His invasion ran right into a brick wall. It was a little annoying tho, because with his 100 ship TF, he auto-loaded everyone, before I could counter-attack his invasion (*sigh*). The CD units had also shot up some transports, and when KB bombed the place, the AAA unit downed maybe 15 planes. My victory was pyrric however, because he zoomed south with KB, and nailed the trasports (sank about 40). Still, I had stopped him, sank some transports, and downed some of his elite pilots (at the cost of 40 transports, that hurt, worst loss thus far, but could be MUCH worse).
Next major fight came at Noumea/Lugaville/Efate. We were having the usual LBA exchange. I figured something was coming. I don't think he knew how much stuff I actually had there (about 3 Divisions at Noumea, and 1+ at Luganville). The anvil came south, I think the intended invasion was at Luganville. He tried a paradrop into Efate with invasion at Luganville. I had some guys at Efate, it was close pitched. He dropped more guys in, still close. His last minute recons of Luganville showed I had reinforced the place (I think he learned his lesson at Canton Island). So the anvil diverted to Efate. He caputured Efate. He also lands a million ENG units, to zoom up the base size. Efate went to an AF(4) in about a week. Lots of air battles over Efate/Noumea for about a month, but I wore him down (with B-26s, P-39s and P-40s, no B-17s). Had my CVs hanging south of Noumea, feeding in extra fighters.
Efate was now a sh_t hole (AF and port damage at 99). He came back about 3 weeks later with mega-KB (I put a bomb into Ryujo!), pulled some of the troops, and started taking the islands in SoPac (Pago-Pago, Fun-n-fruity, that chain). With KB & company in SoPac, I re-invaded Efate, and recaptured it. Also, when I saw him coming for Noumea/Efate, I sent another Div+ to Suva. Some major luck there. He was landing at Ndini as I was landing reinformcents at Suva (on the other side of the island!). Bad weather held, and he didn't spot my transports until they were pulling out. He chased a few of them, maybe sank 5 - 6, but Suva was reinforced. Meanwhile, he had captured Pago Pago, Fun-n-fruity, Upulu and that chain.
KB went back to support invasion at Timor. Timor fell rather quickly (was disappointed in that), but I wasn't surprised. The "Timor Alamo" plan was an old strategy (this game is over a year old, Dave needed to take about 4 months off at one point). It didn't last long vs. bombardment, LBA, and KB. However, My B-17s from Darwin laucnhed twice. I lost about 80 B-17s, but shot down another 40 elite Zeros. Was disappointed that I didn't score a single hit vs. KB, but still, I killed elite pilots. I wouldn't do the Timor Alamo plan again, doesn't work and could see that even before KB showed up for the coup de gras.
Meanwhile, Suva held vs. his attack (not surprising). But I wasn't strong enough to recapture Ndini (I tried, he had about 2 Divs). Suva also wasn't a large airbase, so couldn't just bomb him into submission. Sent more troops (2+ Div) from PH. Was able to send the convoy with less risk, since KB was playing at Timor. It took a little while, because had to take the long way around Pago-Pago, but I got them on the ground at Suva. I managed recently recaptured Ndini.
THe current status of our game is a bit of a detante'.
He owns Burma. I own India (and I seriously doubt he can make a move there) and Akyab. I've also leveled every resource/oil in Burma and South East Asia (except Bankok). I am gearing for an invasion of Andaman and ... [strategy witheld].
He owns SRA (duh).
He made a few bombardments vs. north Oz, but B-17s and Beuforts have kept him at bay. If he were to land at Oz, I'm pretty sure I'd kick his a$$.
SWPac is fairly quiet. B-17s keep his planes out of New Guinea. I still get intel messages about an invasion of Cairnes (again, like to see that happen), but I've got plenty on the ground in Oz, and my LBA would make him cry at this point.
SoPac I own Noumea/Lugan/Efate and Suva/Ndini. He owns Pago-Pago and that chain, I own Canton Island and north to PH. All are heavily reinforced. Plans are well underway for invasion of Pago-Pago. I've also got all my CVs (6 USN + 3 RN + CVE + CVL) roaming SoPac (well defended, with AAA upgrades, and lots of escorts). I had a bombardment TF of 6 BBs, but he zoomed in with a lite KB (probably 4 CVs), and hit rearming at Suva. There was a small window where my BBs were pulling in, and my CVs were a few spaces back, and he threaded it. Nothing will sink, but 4 of my BBs will be in the yards for a while. I -almost- nailed him with my CVs, but he's wiley, and he timed that very well (my BBs are faster than my CVs, which are following the pokey Hermes and Long Island).
I would have loved to have gotten into that CV vs. CV scrap. My pilots are 80+ exp. I'm sure his are close (considering still lots of elite, but have taken some casualties). I'd have traded 1 to 1, but it didn't happen. Instead I got 4 BBs damaged, but oh well. It was nice to watch -HIM- run for a change.
Basically, my strategy was to build a few bastions that he can't take, and to limit his victories elswhere to, "a victory, but not decisive". Frankly, I'm not sure what he's up to at this point. But the initiative seems to be tilting my way. I'm re-opening SoPac, and my LBA is doing a good job of keeping him in check. With the P-38s, I'll actually have escorts for my bombers (that's gotta help!). I simply intend to advance under my LBA unbrella, and try to proke a CV exchange. My goal is to have recaptured SoPac and complete the CBI operation by Christmas. Naturally, Dave (Erstad) will do his best to meddle with this. But all my CVs are intact, and upgraded (altho those 10-42 refits are just around the corner, I'll have to schedule those in). Again, it feels like the initiative is blowing my way. It's just a light breeze, but I'll take it.
Honestly tho, in your game, I'd hunker down Pearl Harbor, Oz, and India. He's got a lot more inertia in your game. I really don't know, but I'd watch for an invasion of Palmyra. Once he's done with SoPac, he'll likely look to invade the line islands (if he hasn't arleady). From there, he can raid the lanes to Pearl Harbor, or worse cut it off and invade the place.
There, I managed to hold my toungue, so as to be polite and not unveil Dave's strategy. At this point, your game is VERY different than mine.
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Rob Brennan UK
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RE: Japanese army lands in Derby... +400 000 enemy troops capture Changsa...
Thanks for that fiender. Nice account of your experinces with him there, as you say aztez seems to be suffering from his learining in your game .. hence i suspect canton is well defended right now.
hope you get some morale support from this Aztez .. he is stoppable (just) [:D]
p.s Piender. whats the points ratio in your game ? is he close to a 4-1 or miles off ?
hope you get some morale support from this Aztez .. he is stoppable (just) [:D]
p.s Piender. whats the points ratio in your game ? is he close to a 4-1 or miles off ?
sorry for the spelling . English is my main language , I just can't type . and i'm too lazy to edit
RE: Japanese army lands in Derby... +400 000 enemy troops capture Changsa...
Actually, doing quite well in the points ratio. It's about 2.3 : 1 right now. Neither of us have lost many major fleet units tho. He hasn't lost a single CV/CVL/CVE/CS, and nether have I. I think we've both sunk a CA, and few CLs. And the usual collection of escorts and transports. Part of what I did tho, was maximize the use of my LBA. LBA is a "completely renewable resource". Losing 40 P-40s sucks, btu they -do- come back (whereas, fleet units don't, well they sorta do, but I don't count on it). But he doesn't go anywhere without KB as top-cover. That limits my ability to attack his ships (and his losses). And at the same time, I haven't been impaling my own ships vs. mega-KB.
For the most part, I resisted where I could, and caved where it would make no difference. It did slow him down a bit, because he never really knew if there would be a base force or two divisions waiting for his invasion. Also, you can see with several of the confrontations, my reinforcements came "just in the nick of time". Some of the ops were risky, but at the same time, they didn't over-expose my fleet units.
Originally, used my CVs to ferry planes to where they were needed. They could be "in proximity", usually about 15 hexes of the action, and launch the Army planes. Then my CV planes could suppliment if necessary by flying from the island AFs, while the CVs hung back and rotated squadrons (also got exp this way). But my CVs were never seriously risked. I figured if LBA can do the job, I'd keep my CVs in fighting trim if any opportunity presented itself.
Now I have two weapons. My own CVs, and my LBA. Where my CVs aren't, my LBA is.
He -is- threateded by my LBA. Even tho I've only ever scored a single 500# bomb on Ryujo, he's gets real nervous pitting mega-KB vs. LBA. He was -NOT- happy for losing 40 of KBs finest at Timor. From my experience is that he likes raiding with KB, more than anything else. I just limit his available targets for that. As far as his own LBA, I just play "whack the bright red X" with my B-17s, and it keeps him basing anything close enough to invade Oz or elsewhere. He did just deploy his first group of Tojos vs. an unescorted B-17 formation tho. I had just clobbered Lae (killed about 60 AC, lost about 10 B-17s, closed the AF). I went back to finish the damaged ones on the ground, but the Tojos showed up (from Rabaul I guess), and lost about 20 B-17s with no loss to his Tojos (who says B-17s are invincible?). But with P-38s coming on-line, they'll now have escorts, and I can fly sweep + bomb = should help.
Like I said, I kept my own CVs away from major risk. He -always- zoomed around with mega-KB (every fricken' CV/CVL/CVE). No point trying to match that with my own CVs. So I've grouped up the RN CVs and the USN CVs (now with Wasp). I've also got a mega convoy with about 1.8 million fuel and 1.2 milllion supplies that follows me around (far out harms way). At this point, I'd welcome a fight with KB. I'll trade 1:1 with him if he wants.
If he comes at PH, fine. I've got such a back-log of troops in Hawaii (since SoPac was interdicted), that I'm not worried about it or the Line Islands.
If he wants to stop me in SoPac, he'll have to send KB (fine). But his bases aren't built up, and no means for him to reinforce without KB as escort. If he comes, there will be a big fight (again, I'll take even exchanges). Otherwise, I'll take it back (which I fully intend to do).
Hebrides and Oz are swimming in troops. If he comes at Hebrides, I'll send my CVs, and we can have a fight (doubt he could capture Hebredes anyway). Oz can hold it's own, and all 220 B-17s call it home.
He could hamper the Andaman operation, esp with KB. Don't think he could do anyting to India, but molest Andamans, yes. Still, I'm not risking much for it. Goal in CBI is strictly strategic bombing anyways (and frankly, I'm running out of targets, hense the Andaman op). But if I get stopped at Andaman, oh well. At least I'll know where KB is.
For the most part, I resisted where I could, and caved where it would make no difference. It did slow him down a bit, because he never really knew if there would be a base force or two divisions waiting for his invasion. Also, you can see with several of the confrontations, my reinforcements came "just in the nick of time". Some of the ops were risky, but at the same time, they didn't over-expose my fleet units.
Originally, used my CVs to ferry planes to where they were needed. They could be "in proximity", usually about 15 hexes of the action, and launch the Army planes. Then my CV planes could suppliment if necessary by flying from the island AFs, while the CVs hung back and rotated squadrons (also got exp this way). But my CVs were never seriously risked. I figured if LBA can do the job, I'd keep my CVs in fighting trim if any opportunity presented itself.
Now I have two weapons. My own CVs, and my LBA. Where my CVs aren't, my LBA is.
He -is- threateded by my LBA. Even tho I've only ever scored a single 500# bomb on Ryujo, he's gets real nervous pitting mega-KB vs. LBA. He was -NOT- happy for losing 40 of KBs finest at Timor. From my experience is that he likes raiding with KB, more than anything else. I just limit his available targets for that. As far as his own LBA, I just play "whack the bright red X" with my B-17s, and it keeps him basing anything close enough to invade Oz or elsewhere. He did just deploy his first group of Tojos vs. an unescorted B-17 formation tho. I had just clobbered Lae (killed about 60 AC, lost about 10 B-17s, closed the AF). I went back to finish the damaged ones on the ground, but the Tojos showed up (from Rabaul I guess), and lost about 20 B-17s with no loss to his Tojos (who says B-17s are invincible?). But with P-38s coming on-line, they'll now have escorts, and I can fly sweep + bomb = should help.
Like I said, I kept my own CVs away from major risk. He -always- zoomed around with mega-KB (every fricken' CV/CVL/CVE). No point trying to match that with my own CVs. So I've grouped up the RN CVs and the USN CVs (now with Wasp). I've also got a mega convoy with about 1.8 million fuel and 1.2 milllion supplies that follows me around (far out harms way). At this point, I'd welcome a fight with KB. I'll trade 1:1 with him if he wants.
If he comes at PH, fine. I've got such a back-log of troops in Hawaii (since SoPac was interdicted), that I'm not worried about it or the Line Islands.
If he wants to stop me in SoPac, he'll have to send KB (fine). But his bases aren't built up, and no means for him to reinforce without KB as escort. If he comes, there will be a big fight (again, I'll take even exchanges). Otherwise, I'll take it back (which I fully intend to do).
Hebrides and Oz are swimming in troops. If he comes at Hebrides, I'll send my CVs, and we can have a fight (doubt he could capture Hebredes anyway). Oz can hold it's own, and all 220 B-17s call it home.
He could hamper the Andaman operation, esp with KB. Don't think he could do anyting to India, but molest Andamans, yes. Still, I'm not risking much for it. Goal in CBI is strictly strategic bombing anyways (and frankly, I'm running out of targets, hense the Andaman op). But if I get stopped at Andaman, oh well. At least I'll know where KB is.
"It is obvious that you have greatly over-estimated my regard for your opinion." - Me
RE: Japanese army lands in Derby... +400 000 enemy troops capture Changsa...
I really appreciate a lot your indepth summary Feinder! Thank you for time and effort.
Yes, Our games are diffrent but in many cases similar. As you said he really likes to go in with force. Those +100 ships at Singapore and +70 ships at Rangoon would indicate that he has serious intensions towards India.
I guess the biggest diffrence in our games is the South Pacific. You did put up a solid fighting defense and I retreated. ( I was too scared that his navy would have sunken my planned reinforcements). I don't know but if he did it againts you but he had part of the KB lurking in Southern sealanes. Luckily enough I did not loose the 2 USCM division!
China. Dave is really pushing here in this game. I think I might slowed his advance in Southern China but if allied signit is correct than he has assault forces gathering in North. Because of this I have now ordered some of the strong Chinese divisions stationed in Sian to start moving towards Chungking. I rather lose Sian than have my troops split in two. He is also using bulk of his LBA's here. He is constantly bombing my ground troops here. (I would love to have some Spitfires here).
DEI is a lost cause for me. I don't know whether it was an mistake not reinforce Java and Timor but it is too late now.
Also I should have moved more supplies to Singapore and Manila while I had a chance.
Northern Oz. Well, I afraid to move more troops there since now that he has control over South Pacific islands. Dave might launch an amphitious invasion from those bases.
So, let him have it at the moment... I will get my revenge soon enough.
It sounds like you are having an intresting game againts Dave. I'am also enjoying this one and he really seems like nice and reliable opponent.
By the looks of things Dave will soon tastte his own medicine!!! Allthough I doubt he will risk his KB for nothing... but than again your are one of the most experienced allied players I know and you might have few tricks on your sleeves!!! [:D][:D][:D]
...Rob... I think I need all the luck at the moment... but as Arnold said in Terminator... "I'll be back".... at the 1943 latest [;)]
Report from 14th through 16th of April 1942
Central Pacific
I have taken the advice from Feinder to bolster my defenses here. I have 350 Assault points at Palmyra, 850 Assault points at Christmas Island, 550 Assault points at Midway and 1600 Assault points at Pearl Harbour.
Allied signit also indicated that 54th Japanese division is planning for Pearl Harbour but this might be false assumption.
Anyway, those bases above will be defended heavily if he chooses to invade. I have 3 US RCT units arriving within month. 1 US RCT will head to Midway, 1 US RCT to Palmyra and 1 RCT to Christmas Island.
Also 1 US Division is moving towards Pearl Harbour as we speak.
I will also abandon the submarine minelaying againts Japan. These subs will start mining the bases at CenPac.
North Pacific
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China
Heavy LBA asssaults againts my ground units.
As stated above I have started planned withdrawal from Sian towards inner China.
Australia, NZ & South Pacific
Japanese infantry units arrived at Noumea...
Ground combat at Noumea
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 18363 troops, 166 guns, 8 vehicles
Defending force 21164 troops, 122 guns, 10 vehicles
Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
I will also move 2 NZ Brigades from Christianchurch to Auckland. This means that I would have 550 assault points garrisoning the capital city.
DEI
This region will be lost completely soon. Heavy Japanese naval TF bombarded Batavia...
Naval bombardment of Batavia, at 19,59
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
F.K.51: 3 destroyed
Hawk 75A: 2 destroyed
Catalina I: 1 destroyed
Japanese Ships
CA Kumano
CA Suzuya
CA Mogami
CA Chokai
CA Takao
BB Haruna
BB Kongo
Allied ground losses:
5171 casualties reported
Guns lost 51
Vehicles lost 13
Airbase hits 20
Airbase supply hits 16
Runway hits 181
Port hits 1
India & Burma
Chinese SEAC troops are heading towards Ledo.
I would love to move my British CV's to Australia and than to CenPac. This just might be too risky plan to execute.
Yes, Our games are diffrent but in many cases similar. As you said he really likes to go in with force. Those +100 ships at Singapore and +70 ships at Rangoon would indicate that he has serious intensions towards India.
I guess the biggest diffrence in our games is the South Pacific. You did put up a solid fighting defense and I retreated. ( I was too scared that his navy would have sunken my planned reinforcements). I don't know but if he did it againts you but he had part of the KB lurking in Southern sealanes. Luckily enough I did not loose the 2 USCM division!
China. Dave is really pushing here in this game. I think I might slowed his advance in Southern China but if allied signit is correct than he has assault forces gathering in North. Because of this I have now ordered some of the strong Chinese divisions stationed in Sian to start moving towards Chungking. I rather lose Sian than have my troops split in two. He is also using bulk of his LBA's here. He is constantly bombing my ground troops here. (I would love to have some Spitfires here).
DEI is a lost cause for me. I don't know whether it was an mistake not reinforce Java and Timor but it is too late now.
Also I should have moved more supplies to Singapore and Manila while I had a chance.
Northern Oz. Well, I afraid to move more troops there since now that he has control over South Pacific islands. Dave might launch an amphitious invasion from those bases.
So, let him have it at the moment... I will get my revenge soon enough.
It sounds like you are having an intresting game againts Dave. I'am also enjoying this one and he really seems like nice and reliable opponent.
By the looks of things Dave will soon tastte his own medicine!!! Allthough I doubt he will risk his KB for nothing... but than again your are one of the most experienced allied players I know and you might have few tricks on your sleeves!!! [:D][:D][:D]
...Rob... I think I need all the luck at the moment... but as Arnold said in Terminator... "I'll be back".... at the 1943 latest [;)]
Report from 14th through 16th of April 1942
Central Pacific
I have taken the advice from Feinder to bolster my defenses here. I have 350 Assault points at Palmyra, 850 Assault points at Christmas Island, 550 Assault points at Midway and 1600 Assault points at Pearl Harbour.
Allied signit also indicated that 54th Japanese division is planning for Pearl Harbour but this might be false assumption.
Anyway, those bases above will be defended heavily if he chooses to invade. I have 3 US RCT units arriving within month. 1 US RCT will head to Midway, 1 US RCT to Palmyra and 1 RCT to Christmas Island.
Also 1 US Division is moving towards Pearl Harbour as we speak.
I will also abandon the submarine minelaying againts Japan. These subs will start mining the bases at CenPac.
North Pacific
[>:][>:][>:][>:]
China
Heavy LBA asssaults againts my ground units.
As stated above I have started planned withdrawal from Sian towards inner China.
Australia, NZ & South Pacific
Japanese infantry units arrived at Noumea...
Ground combat at Noumea
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 18363 troops, 166 guns, 8 vehicles
Defending force 21164 troops, 122 guns, 10 vehicles
Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
I will also move 2 NZ Brigades from Christianchurch to Auckland. This means that I would have 550 assault points garrisoning the capital city.
DEI
This region will be lost completely soon. Heavy Japanese naval TF bombarded Batavia...
Naval bombardment of Batavia, at 19,59
Allied aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft losses
F.K.51: 3 destroyed
Hawk 75A: 2 destroyed
Catalina I: 1 destroyed
Japanese Ships
CA Kumano
CA Suzuya
CA Mogami
CA Chokai
CA Takao
BB Haruna
BB Kongo
Allied ground losses:
5171 casualties reported
Guns lost 51
Vehicles lost 13
Airbase hits 20
Airbase supply hits 16
Runway hits 181
Port hits 1
India & Burma
Chinese SEAC troops are heading towards Ledo.
I would love to move my British CV's to Australia and than to CenPac. This just might be too risky plan to execute.
RE: Japanese army lands in Derby... +400 000 enemy troops capture Changsa...
have taken the advice from Feinder to bolster my defenses here. I have 350 Assault points at Palmyra, 850 Assault points at Christmas Island, 550 Assault points at Midway and 1600 Assault points at Pearl Harbour.
Centpac -
He may come for Midway, you need to hold it with something, but not too much. "Somethign" because you don't want to give it away for free. But "not too much", because if he comes, going to come with enough to clobber you. Midway is useful as a ammo-fuel depot vs. PH, but frankly, not as useful as Palmyra or Chirstmas. It's useful to build up French Frigate to AF(2) so that, if he DOES come at Midway, you can ferry in fighters (otherwise, Midway is out of range from PH). But frankly, building up FFS at this point, might be counter-productive (if he takes it from you!).
Johnston - Same as Midway. It's useful to him because it gives him an ammo-fuel depot vs. PH, but not as useful as Palmyra or Christmas. It's stand alone.
Palmra & Christmas. You only need to garrison one of them (perferably Pal). Which has the better AF? Pal starts at AF(4), have you built up Christmas? Pal is probably the better choice, because it's probably the nicer AF. If you have a bunch of sh_t at Pal, it's harder for him to capture it in the first palce. If Christmas insn't built up yet, it'll take him a little while to build Christmas, which buys you time to bomb him). If he walks into Christmas, make his life miserable from Pal. If he comes for Pal, hopefully you'll have lots of crap there. Be advised if it were me going for those two, I'd go for Pal. Lead by a bombardment TF, which will wreck your AF. But if you've got lots of LCUs there (and supplies, LOTs of supplies!), you can stop the invasion. But stack your LCUs at one of them, you don't need to divide your forces to defend both. From Pal or Chirstmas, he can cut off PH from West Coat convoys.
Oz - You're kind of in a pickle (you needed me to tell you that? *smile*). He landed at Derby for the resouces (now he has supplies to feed his troops to press invasion). If it were me as Japan, I'd bomb the crap out of Broome, and send something capture it if it's cheap, while bombig the crap out of Darwin. Darwin is the key to the north coast (malaria free). If you think you can hold it great. But be careful, because with troops on teh continent, he can cut you off and force surrender. Can you hold the rail either west of Darwin or even Wyndam? Don't let him amphib invade Darwin while doing that tho. You might have to scuttle the north, depending on what he's got there. Also be advised that he'll likely go for Perth, it's isolated, and if he captures it, he can just move on since you can take it back without going thru him first (and it's so islated that it'll take you a long to get there anyway). He'll try to spread you out, and then drop the anvil on you destroying you in detail.
CBI - Yep, sounds like he might be leering at India. Definatley too many ships there. Having closed Burma, he'll likely scrap out the Burma divisions, and ready them for India (what can you do about it? nothing). Get ready in India for that fight. If I were going to land in Ceylon, I'd land at Tricom. Not sure I'd bother with Ceylon tho. If I were going to land in India, I'd land at either DH/Chadpur or that little base SW of Madras. You need a little something on the Burma line, but bear in mind that if he goes overland, you have about 7 weeks to get reinforcements into position (plenty of time). Sea invasion however, happens VERY quickly (esp on 3-day turns, you're nutts by the way). Not sure if y'all have a land-anwhere rule (I only allow base and dot hexes), that would make a big difference. Have all those tank brigades stationed somewhere central, so they can zoom to the invasion asap (they can make great speed getting to destination).
-F-
"It is obvious that you have greatly over-estimated my regard for your opinion." - Me
RE: Japanese army lands in Derby... +400 000 enemy troops capture Changsa...
he really seems like nice and reliable opponent
Yep. He really is a nice guy. Met him for beers once. He was in Tampa on business, so we we shared a pitcher. He's definately much nicer person than I am. Once you've met the man behind the green curtain, it's hard to get all whiney and moan when KB throttles you up-side your head. I get frustrated yes. But you realize you're playing the best, and he's litterally teaching you how to play "the perfect game" (unfortunately for you, I think he's "fixed" some of the mis-steps he made with me!).
From reading many of these AARs, he is one of the strongest Japanese opponents you'll find. But in real life, and on these boards, he's a fairly quiet person. Most do not associate him with the Japanese fan boys (I wouldn't call him a fan boy anyway). He just kicks you a$$ with dignity!
[:D]
-F-
"It is obvious that you have greatly over-estimated my regard for your opinion." - Me
RE: Japanese army lands in Derby... +400 000 enemy troops capture Changsa...
I think that you may be able to get the Noumea back after you can deal with his naval forces (KB even). Noumea is way south to IJN to support effectively. Plus it's not atoll so you can invade bit less bloodily.
That of course means that you haven't lost all Australia by then...[:D]
That of course means that you haven't lost all Australia by then...[:D]
"To meaningless French Idealism, Liberty, Fraternity and Equality...we answer with German Realism, Infantry, Cavalry and Artillery" -Prince von Bülov, 1870-
RE: Japanese army lands in Derby... +400 000 enemy troops capture Changsa...
A bunch of good questions and solid advices you posted Feinder [:D] I will try to answer those and give my views of what's happening.
CenPac
I do not have sufficient troops around Pearl Harbour. (Lahaina, Hilo, etc). I need to bring in more troops as they come.
Johnston Island is completely empty. I just don't have the infantry at the moment to garrison this tiny island properly. This will easy target for him if he chooses to invade it.
You asked which airfield is better. Palmyra has level 4 airfield and it can not be upgraded any further. Fortifications are now reaching level 7. Christmas Island has level 5 airfield and that is why I have choosen this base to be my strongpoint so to speak. The fortifications are now also at level 7.
As stated I will move 1 RCT Unit to both of these places once they are released. Also, I will start laying mines here with my submarines this should bolster my defenses somewhat.
My CV's (5 US) are stationed at Pearl Harbour along with my major naval assets. If he tries anything againts either Midway, Palmyra, Christmas Island or surrounding bases I will meet KB with full force I have at my disposal. I cannot let him go any further into West!
Midway might be also an obvious target. I will sent 1 US RCT unit there too and start laying mines.
Pearl Harbour itself is strongly fortified. Now 2000 assault points there along with cream of my CenPac aircrafts. (Bomber crew experience +70)
Supply situation is excellent at each one of these bases.
Oz
The situation is actually quite bad in the Northern part of the country.
He does already occupy Wyndham, Broome and Derby. (I will included an screenshot in next post)
The supply situation in Southern Australia is excellent. Plenty of fuel and supplies in Brisbane/Sydney/Melbourne.
I have just 2 Surface combat TF protecting the sealanes but that has to be enough at least for now.
Perth is vulnerable as you suggested. So, I have decieded to start empty those precious fuel barrels to Brisbane and Sydney.
Thankfully I will receive the 6th Australia Division withing 2 days. This will give me extra punch at Sydney.
I can't propably hold the line at Darwin and neither the important railway. Once this is confirmed than I will start moving my troops out of Darwin. It is not smart to let him kill those ground units for nothing.
[:-][:-][:-]... and Sardaukar...[8|]... I will not lose the whole Oz!!! [:D][:D][:D] (Hopefully)
I will let him to spread my troops. I will concentrate my defenses here in couple places. (Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney). Rest of the country is expendable!
India
You are 100% right. There is not much I can do if/when he starts his offensive againts India. [:@]
As you know I have started orderly retreat from Burma towards India. Those Chinese SEAC troops can be the decisive factor in my defensive line.
We also have an houserule with Dave. He cannot not capture Karachi and occupy it. This means I can get my revenge in due time.
The only thing I'am lacking here is good allied fighter planes. I really need those Spitfires soon!
I have also decieded to abandon Ceylon. He will capture it anyway so no need waste my infantry units there. These are now based in Madras and Calcutta line.
The BB's from RN are anchored at Bombay. RN CV's are at Karachi. (I would like to sneak these into CenPac but that might be an suicide)
I have also started emptying my fuel resources at Ceylon. I don't want Dave to have anything for free. Tankers will empty their fuel load to Bombay.
Yes, I'am nuts to play againts Dave with 3 day turn cycle [:D][:D][:D][:D] ...but I'am enjoying it.
No, we do not have land-anywhere rule so he has freehand in decieding where to go. (Only the Karachi houserule applies)
Most of my RAF forces are at Bangalore. At least he cannot use naval bombardment to destroy these planes at airfields.
I'am convinced that he will continue his major effort in China!!! By the looks of things this region will be one of those turning points of this war. Dave wasn't very active here againts you but I think he has other plans againts me. [:-]
That's is why I do not want my Chinese army to be spread out too much. As I stated I have started moving troops out of Sian already.
Hmpf, I think we both can learn a lot from Dave [:D] I think you are correct that he is one of the best IJN players around (He does not post often but that doesn't anything) along with PzB, Admiral Laurent and couple of others.
...I bet it was an pleasure to meet Dave IRL. [:)]
CenPac
I do not have sufficient troops around Pearl Harbour. (Lahaina, Hilo, etc). I need to bring in more troops as they come.
Johnston Island is completely empty. I just don't have the infantry at the moment to garrison this tiny island properly. This will easy target for him if he chooses to invade it.
You asked which airfield is better. Palmyra has level 4 airfield and it can not be upgraded any further. Fortifications are now reaching level 7. Christmas Island has level 5 airfield and that is why I have choosen this base to be my strongpoint so to speak. The fortifications are now also at level 7.
As stated I will move 1 RCT Unit to both of these places once they are released. Also, I will start laying mines here with my submarines this should bolster my defenses somewhat.
My CV's (5 US) are stationed at Pearl Harbour along with my major naval assets. If he tries anything againts either Midway, Palmyra, Christmas Island or surrounding bases I will meet KB with full force I have at my disposal. I cannot let him go any further into West!
Midway might be also an obvious target. I will sent 1 US RCT unit there too and start laying mines.
Pearl Harbour itself is strongly fortified. Now 2000 assault points there along with cream of my CenPac aircrafts. (Bomber crew experience +70)
Supply situation is excellent at each one of these bases.
Oz
The situation is actually quite bad in the Northern part of the country.
He does already occupy Wyndham, Broome and Derby. (I will included an screenshot in next post)
The supply situation in Southern Australia is excellent. Plenty of fuel and supplies in Brisbane/Sydney/Melbourne.
I have just 2 Surface combat TF protecting the sealanes but that has to be enough at least for now.
Perth is vulnerable as you suggested. So, I have decieded to start empty those precious fuel barrels to Brisbane and Sydney.
Thankfully I will receive the 6th Australia Division withing 2 days. This will give me extra punch at Sydney.
I can't propably hold the line at Darwin and neither the important railway. Once this is confirmed than I will start moving my troops out of Darwin. It is not smart to let him kill those ground units for nothing.
[:-][:-][:-]... and Sardaukar...[8|]... I will not lose the whole Oz!!! [:D][:D][:D] (Hopefully)
I will let him to spread my troops. I will concentrate my defenses here in couple places. (Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney). Rest of the country is expendable!
India
You are 100% right. There is not much I can do if/when he starts his offensive againts India. [:@]
As you know I have started orderly retreat from Burma towards India. Those Chinese SEAC troops can be the decisive factor in my defensive line.
We also have an houserule with Dave. He cannot not capture Karachi and occupy it. This means I can get my revenge in due time.
The only thing I'am lacking here is good allied fighter planes. I really need those Spitfires soon!
I have also decieded to abandon Ceylon. He will capture it anyway so no need waste my infantry units there. These are now based in Madras and Calcutta line.
The BB's from RN are anchored at Bombay. RN CV's are at Karachi. (I would like to sneak these into CenPac but that might be an suicide)
I have also started emptying my fuel resources at Ceylon. I don't want Dave to have anything for free. Tankers will empty their fuel load to Bombay.
Yes, I'am nuts to play againts Dave with 3 day turn cycle [:D][:D][:D][:D] ...but I'am enjoying it.
No, we do not have land-anywhere rule so he has freehand in decieding where to go. (Only the Karachi houserule applies)
Most of my RAF forces are at Bangalore. At least he cannot use naval bombardment to destroy these planes at airfields.
I'am convinced that he will continue his major effort in China!!! By the looks of things this region will be one of those turning points of this war. Dave wasn't very active here againts you but I think he has other plans againts me. [:-]
That's is why I do not want my Chinese army to be spread out too much. As I stated I have started moving troops out of Sian already.
Hmpf, I think we both can learn a lot from Dave [:D] I think you are correct that he is one of the best IJN players around (He does not post often but that doesn't anything) along with PzB, Admiral Laurent and couple of others.
...I bet it was an pleasure to meet Dave IRL. [:)]RE: Japanese army lands in Derby... +400 000 enemy troops capture Changsa...
I could go on a for a long diatribe on China, but I won't. China is stood down in our game. I think Dave was still learning ground combat when we started. Bulldozing Malaya and Burma is one thing, China is a whole different ball-game. And we agreed to stand it down.
Most important things to remember in China:
a. Try to keep him from bombing your resources. Him trainnig in China is one thing (he rather prefers San Jose off the Philipines anyway). But if he kills your Chinese resoureces, your army will litterally starve to death. CAP your resource centers as best you can.
b. Don't let your troops get cut off (and surrender). Chinese ground losses can be a major VP sponge for the Japanese (even if their points per squad ratio is cheaper).
c. Never lose Chungking. No matter the cost. If memory serves, it can be worth 18,000 vps when fully built. That a LOT of points.
-F-
Most important things to remember in China:
a. Try to keep him from bombing your resources. Him trainnig in China is one thing (he rather prefers San Jose off the Philipines anyway). But if he kills your Chinese resoureces, your army will litterally starve to death. CAP your resource centers as best you can.
b. Don't let your troops get cut off (and surrender). Chinese ground losses can be a major VP sponge for the Japanese (even if their points per squad ratio is cheaper).
c. Never lose Chungking. No matter the cost. If memory serves, it can be worth 18,000 vps when fully built. That a LOT of points.
-F-
"It is obvious that you have greatly over-estimated my regard for your opinion." - Me
RE: Japanese army lands in Derby... +400 000 enemy troops capture Changsa...
The ground combat can sometimes be quite a mess [:D]
It is actually intresting that Dave doesn't bomb resources in China. He could but it is not happening at the moment. I guess he is showing "mercy" in that perpesctive.
Yes, I do agree that if he can split my army in two than I'am doomed. That is exactly why I'am starting withdraw my troops from Sian.
Currently I have 130 000 men at Chungking and since I'am moving my troops from North towards inner China I can propably place around 300 000 men around the Chinese capital. He will be hard pressed to gain victory here.
I guess you could compare my strategy to the Russian vs Germans in WWII. (It's better to retreat at first than to fight doomed battles where the chance of winning is slim) [:)]
It is actually intresting that Dave doesn't bomb resources in China. He could but it is not happening at the moment. I guess he is showing "mercy" in that perpesctive.
Yes, I do agree that if he can split my army in two than I'am doomed. That is exactly why I'am starting withdraw my troops from Sian.
Currently I have 130 000 men at Chungking and since I'am moving my troops from North towards inner China I can propably place around 300 000 men around the Chinese capital. He will be hard pressed to gain victory here.
I guess you could compare my strategy to the Russian vs Germans in WWII. (It's better to retreat at first than to fight doomed battles where the chance of winning is slim) [:)]
RE: Japanese army lands in Derby... +400 000 enemy troops capture Changsa...
Here is an screenshot from Northern Australia as promised...
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Japanese troops capture Noumea
Report from 17th through 19th of April 1942
Central Pacific
Quiet. I have started the minelaying operations to bolster my defenses in this sector.
US CV's are in full battle readiness at Pearl Harbour.
North Pacific
[>:][>:][>:][>:]
China
The Japanese offensive in Southern China seems to have stalled. Dave is actually withdrawing his troops towards Wuchow and Kweilin.
I think he might try an new push this time through Central China towards Chungking. I doubt this operation could be succesfull.
His LBA's continue bomb my ground troops.
Australia, NZ & South Pacific
The bad news is that Noumea was invaded. There was nothing those brave defenders could do [:(]
Ground combat at Noumea
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 77557 troops, 453 guns, 13 vehicles
Defending force 21040 troops, 124 guns, 10 vehicles
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 3)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2
Japanese ground losses:
1633 casualties reported
Guns lost 33
Vehicles lost 4
Allied ground losses:
737 casualties reported
Guns lost 21
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Ground combat at Noumea
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 75298 troops, 407 guns, 8 vehicles
Defending force 20139 troops, 100 guns, 10 vehicles
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1
Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Noumea base !!!
New Caledonia surrendered easily. I had hoped that those units could have slowed his advance somewhat.
Japanese ground losses:
1681 casualties reported
Guns lost 34
Allied ground losses:
18848 casualties reported
Guns lost 39
Vehicles lost 3
DEI
Japanese army is marching towards Batavia. This "alamo" of DEI will fall within 6 days. There is nothing that those defenders can do.
India & Burma
I'am trying to emptry the fuel from Ceylon. (Colombo and Tricomlalee)
Central Pacific
Quiet. I have started the minelaying operations to bolster my defenses in this sector.
US CV's are in full battle readiness at Pearl Harbour.
North Pacific
[>:][>:][>:][>:]
China
The Japanese offensive in Southern China seems to have stalled. Dave is actually withdrawing his troops towards Wuchow and Kweilin.
I think he might try an new push this time through Central China towards Chungking. I doubt this operation could be succesfull.
His LBA's continue bomb my ground troops.
Australia, NZ & South Pacific
The bad news is that Noumea was invaded. There was nothing those brave defenders could do [:(]
Ground combat at Noumea
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 77557 troops, 453 guns, 13 vehicles
Defending force 21040 troops, 124 guns, 10 vehicles
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 3)
Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 2
Japanese ground losses:
1633 casualties reported
Guns lost 33
Vehicles lost 4
Allied ground losses:
737 casualties reported
Guns lost 21
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Ground combat at Noumea
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 75298 troops, 407 guns, 8 vehicles
Defending force 20139 troops, 100 guns, 10 vehicles
Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1
Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Noumea base !!!
New Caledonia surrendered easily. I had hoped that those units could have slowed his advance somewhat.
Japanese ground losses:
1681 casualties reported
Guns lost 34
Allied ground losses:
18848 casualties reported
Guns lost 39
Vehicles lost 3
DEI
Japanese army is marching towards Batavia. This "alamo" of DEI will fall within 6 days. There is nothing that those defenders can do.
India & Burma
I'am trying to emptry the fuel from Ceylon. (Colombo and Tricomlalee)
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RE: Japanese troops capture Noumea
Losing noumea is nasty. BUT there wasnt a damn thing you could have done about it.. His empire is going to have some very very vulnerable supply lines .. i think your subs would be well employed trying to interdict these.
Good luck !
Good luck !
sorry for the spelling . English is my main language , I just can't type . and i'm too lazy to edit
RE: Japanese troops capture Noumea
True. Not a damn thing could be done. Yes, the good thing is supply lanes. He cannot protect his ships in a longrun. That's for sure.
I would love to use my Submarine fleet againts them but this fleet actually took quite a beating in Philippines. [:-]
Report from 19th through 21st of April 1942
Central Pacific
Defensive minefields are put in place all over the CenPac area.
North Pacific
[>:][>:][>:][>:]
China
Dave decieded to launch an heavy airstrikes againts Sian...
Day Air attack on Sian , at 47,29
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Ki-36 Ida x 1
Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 46
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 10 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 22 destroyed, 2 damaged
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Day Air attack on Sian , at 47,29
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 43
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Ki-36 Ida x 1
Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 28
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 10 destroyed, 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on Sian , at 47,29
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-51 Sonia x 53
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Ki-36 Ida x 1
Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 15
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 4 destroyed, 5 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 11
He definately up to something in China. I'am actually expecting a two spearhead offensives. I'am guessing that targets are Chungking and Sian.
Australia, NZ & South Pacific
I have decieded to use my 2 Surface combat TF in a bombardment raid. These have left Sydney and their target is Noumea!
He seems have +100 ships anchored at Noumea and his airforce cannot be at full strenght. (Hopefully)
This is an daring raid but something needs to be done.
DEI
The first IJN troops marched to Batavia so the assault againts the base is imminent.
India & Burma
Things have calmed down here. There are now just +30 ships anchored at Rangoon. I wonder where those others have gone.
I continue to build up my defensive positions in India.
I would love to use my Submarine fleet againts them but this fleet actually took quite a beating in Philippines. [:-]
Report from 19th through 21st of April 1942
Central Pacific
Defensive minefields are put in place all over the CenPac area.
North Pacific
[>:][>:][>:][>:]
China
Dave decieded to launch an heavy airstrikes againts Sian...
Day Air attack on Sian , at 47,29
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Ki-36 Ida x 1
Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 46
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 10 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 22 destroyed, 2 damaged
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Day Air attack on Sian , at 47,29
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 43
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Ki-36 Ida x 1
Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 28
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 10 destroyed, 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on Sian , at 47,29
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-51 Sonia x 53
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Ki-36 Ida x 1
Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 15
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 4 destroyed, 5 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 11
He definately up to something in China. I'am actually expecting a two spearhead offensives. I'am guessing that targets are Chungking and Sian.
Australia, NZ & South Pacific
I have decieded to use my 2 Surface combat TF in a bombardment raid. These have left Sydney and their target is Noumea!
He seems have +100 ships anchored at Noumea and his airforce cannot be at full strenght. (Hopefully)
This is an daring raid but something needs to be done.
DEI
The first IJN troops marched to Batavia so the assault againts the base is imminent.
India & Burma
Things have calmed down here. There are now just +30 ships anchored at Rangoon. I wonder where those others have gone.
I continue to build up my defensive positions in India.
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RE: Japanese troops capture Noumea
I know it is somewhat "gamey" but I hope you are getting out a Cadre out of your LCU's before they are destroyed. Then they can go back to the rear area to get built back up. [;)]
The USA seems to have a shortage of combat engineers if their not careful. Plus, those 90 or 270 size Avaition BF need to be saved for the long road back.
The USA seems to have a shortage of combat engineers if their not careful. Plus, those 90 or 270 size Avaition BF need to be saved for the long road back.
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Nice to see new readers so welcome aboard ny59giants [:)]
Yes, that would be somewhat gamey and to answer your question I did not have any cadres out of those troops from Noumea nor DEI. I just have 3 PHI units building up slowly in Australia. (Alice Springs) That is all.
Those aviation units would come in handy in Oz! I have some aircrafts that I have pulled out but not enough support for them at the moment. As said I'am also lacking good fighter aircrafts pretty much in every theatre. (Just CenPac can put up an fight againts IJN Zero's)
Report from 22nd through 24th of April 1942
Central Pacific
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North Pacific
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China
The air to air battles over Sian continued...
Day Air attack on Sian , at 47,29
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 38
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Ki-36 Ida x 1
Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 16
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed
Ki-15 Babs: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged
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Day Air attack on Sian , at 47,29
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 51
Ki-51 Sonia x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 27
Ki-48 Lily x 48
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Ki-36 Ida x 1
Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 10
P-40E Warhawk x 12
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 85
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Day Air attack on Sian , at 47,29
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Ki-36 Ida x 1
Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 7
P-40E Warhawk x 11
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on Sian , at 47,29
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Ki-36 Ida x 1
Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 10
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 3 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
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Day Air attack on Sian , at 47,29
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 46
Ki-51 Sonia x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 25
Ki-48 Lily x 47
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Ki-36 Ida x 1
Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 4 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 7 destroyed
Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 37
Dave is also planning serious ground offensive in Central China. He has around 30 units gathered in railway hexes there. Chungking will be the obvious target.
Australia, NZ & South Pacific
Those two bombardment TF are enroute. This will be an high risk operation. There are +130 ships at Noumea. Propably some major Japanese navy vessels. (Maybe even some "CV's"). If I can pull this off as an suprise attack than I might be get my first victory of the war... but on the other hand this might end up in disaster! [:D][:D][:D]
DEI
Japanese armoured units reached Batavia. I do expect this base to surrender in forthcoming turn.
India & Burma
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Yes, that would be somewhat gamey and to answer your question I did not have any cadres out of those troops from Noumea nor DEI. I just have 3 PHI units building up slowly in Australia. (Alice Springs) That is all.
Those aviation units would come in handy in Oz! I have some aircrafts that I have pulled out but not enough support for them at the moment. As said I'am also lacking good fighter aircrafts pretty much in every theatre. (Just CenPac can put up an fight againts IJN Zero's)
Report from 22nd through 24th of April 1942
Central Pacific
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North Pacific
[>:][>:][>:][>:]
China
The air to air battles over Sian continued...
Day Air attack on Sian , at 47,29
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 38
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Ki-36 Ida x 1
Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 16
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed
Ki-15 Babs: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged
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Day Air attack on Sian , at 47,29
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 51
Ki-51 Sonia x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 27
Ki-48 Lily x 48
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Ki-36 Ida x 1
Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 10
P-40E Warhawk x 12
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 85
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Day Air attack on Sian , at 47,29
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Ki-36 Ida x 1
Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 7
P-40E Warhawk x 11
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on Sian , at 47,29
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Ki-36 Ida x 1
Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 10
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 3 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed
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Day Air attack on Sian , at 47,29
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 46
Ki-51 Sonia x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 25
Ki-48 Lily x 47
Ki-15 Babs x 1
Ki-36 Ida x 1
Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 4 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 7 destroyed
Allied ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 37
Dave is also planning serious ground offensive in Central China. He has around 30 units gathered in railway hexes there. Chungking will be the obvious target.
Australia, NZ & South Pacific
Those two bombardment TF are enroute. This will be an high risk operation. There are +130 ships at Noumea. Propably some major Japanese navy vessels. (Maybe even some "CV's"). If I can pull this off as an suprise attack than I might be get my first victory of the war... but on the other hand this might end up in disaster! [:D][:D][:D]
DEI
Japanese armoured units reached Batavia. I do expect this base to surrender in forthcoming turn.
India & Burma
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ny59giants
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RE: Japanese troops capture Noumea
Feinder had mentioned your AAR when I asked about how far a Japanese player had gotten into conquering Oz in "The War Room." I started a thread about slowing down a Central Pacific offense from 12/7/42 that included taking Hawaii. I then asked about Oz and I have seen other AAR's that include taking northern Oz and now yours has Perth falling. [:(]
I feel that a good Japanese player needs to take northern Oz to create a buffer zone between the Allied air force and the resources of DEI/SRA (Timor is insufficient). To me, it is more important than south eastern NG (there is no resources there to protect). Keeping the Oil flowing is the key to the Japanese economy IMO.[&:]
I feel that a good Japanese player needs to take northern Oz to create a buffer zone between the Allied air force and the resources of DEI/SRA (Timor is insufficient). To me, it is more important than south eastern NG (there is no resources there to protect). Keeping the Oil flowing is the key to the Japanese economy IMO.[&:]
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