PzB vs Wobbly - Clash of Steel

Fishbed · Post by **Fishbed** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:08 am

You have good chances of success PzB, but I fear Andy may find it a little... gamey, and he'll be right I guess, don't you think so? [&:]

If you really want to use these assets together with a real operation, why not using some transports for an attack behind enemy lines? I guess Andy has every single rifleman on the NG beaches right now - this may leave some bases with only a base force or so maybe... And with all naval assets commited to NG, this kind of actions will slow him down at lower cost...
A invasion TF may even force him to split his CV for rapid response or so... Not to mention if he risks himself to detach a surface action group from the air umbrella [:)]

Rob Brennan UK · Post by **Rob Brennan UK** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:54 am

I kind of agree with fishbed it is a little gamey .. BUT as he has been using PT's unrealistically .. well .. why cant you ?

CapAndGown · Post by **CapAndGown** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:04 am

I don't think the problem is gamey-ness. The real problem is that it probably wont work. The AI is programed to concentrate on the highest value targets. Your surface group would be the focus of attack regardless of all these other targets.

Normally players complain when they can't tell their bombers to concentrate on transports. In this case I am sure that Andy would be happy that the game is coded the way it is. [:'(]

skrewball · Post by **skrewball** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:21 am

You know...I am literally on the edge of my seat waiting to see how this ends.

Do you think its possible we can take up a collection from the forums, so Andy and PzB don't have to work anymore and can just play WiTP all day long? [:D]

WhoCares · Post by **WhoCares** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:35 am

Alternatively you might run an operation 'Running Sushi' - take Kitakami and/or Oi along with a small but torpedo-rich escort, like two or three Fubukis, and try to run them into the enemy bombardment fleet at night. Maybe only two ships, seeing that his bombardments only have 2xBB and DDs. Your ships would get matched up against the BBs and might hit with a few fishes

For sure a Kamikaze mission, but when you manage to take some of his battlewagons out of the fight for a couple of month it might be worth it. You might assign the southernmost base on NG as their home base to get out of range of his CVs, but this would bring you closer to his LBA...

Of course, a lot also depends on the captains and the TF commander to go in and primarily use torpedos - if you only had a list of previous engagements with a good use of torpedos [8|]

PzB74 · Post by **PzB74** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:47 pm

I'm not worried about gameyness here: my barges are following an AP that provides fuel. All LST and other
smaller Allied landing crafts types are also following this procedure. A few days ago Andy sent his PT boats
from Mussaie Island and all the way to Truk. They had to hike back home.

Using old hulks to mislead enemy spotter planes is also a valid enough strategy - confusion to your enemies [;)]

Landing troops behind Andys lines is not an option Fishbed, LBA will crush both ships and troops before they can
achieve anything. I do have several cunning plans however. Almost diverted the KB south to intercept enemy ships
at Aitape today. Since all of Andys cv strike planes took off today they're all fatiged AND it's also possible that
they're all set to ground attack. Couldn't take the risk though - 400 Hellcats would have decimated our strike planes
if our carriers reacted towards the enemy birdfarms.

I'm more for a long lance attack ala WhoCares proposal: let's see how tings unfold.

Yes please Skrewball, 50k US$ and I'd become a full time addict [:D]

Dagua fell today, Aitape is next! I'm expecting major bombardment and air strikes over the next couple of days.
Let's see if we can give Andy a scare [8D]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/09/44

Bombardments

Lots of battle wagons here - results are poor!

Naval bombardment of Dagua, at 51,81

Allied Ships
DD Swanson
DD Sigsbee
DD Walker
DD David Taylor
BB New Jersey
BB Iowa
DD Schroeder
DD Saufley
DD Remey
DD Marshall
DD Hopewell
DD Haraden
DD Halligan
DD Hall
BB Washington
BB Idaho

Japanese ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Runway hits 5
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Invasions

TF 1018 encounters mine field at Dagua (51,81)
TF 1018 troops unloading over beach at Dagua, 51,81

Allied Ships
AK Vitus Bering, Mine hits 1, on fire

Coastal Guns at Dagua, 51,81, firing at TF 1018
22 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied ground losses:
283 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1
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Coastal Guns at Aitape, 51,80, firing at TF 1162
TF 1162 troops unloading over beach at Aitape, 51,80

8 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DD Guest

Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
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Coastal Guns at Dagua, 51,81, firing at TF 1018

TF 1018 encounters mine field at Dagua (51,81)
TF 1018 troops unloading over beach at Dagua, 51,81

17 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AP Cape Neddick

Allied ground losses:
176 casualties reported
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Coastal Guns at Aitape, 51,80, firing at TF 1162
TF 1162 troops unloading over beach at Aitape, 51,80

Allied ground losses:
36 casualties reported
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Air Combat

Day Air attack on Aitape , at 51,80

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 16
PB4Y Liberator x 11
B-24J Liberator x 35

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Port hits 7
Port supply hits 2
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Look at this giant strike...all cv strike ac put on ground attack! Tempts me.

Day Air attack on 51st Road Construction Battalion, at 51,81

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 115
SB2C Helldiver x 314
TBM Avenger x 263

No Allied losses
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Day Air attack on 51st Road Construction Battalion, at 51,81

Allied aircraft
F4U-1D Corsair x 18
Kittyhawk III x 10
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 7
P-40N Warhawk x 13
P-47D Thunderbolt x 8
B-25J Mitchell x 21
PB4Y Liberator x 7
B-24J Liberator x 25

No Allied losses
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Day Air attack on 51st Road Construction Battalion, at 51,81

Allied aircraft
A-20G Havoc x 10
B-24J Liberator x 31

No Allied losses
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Some Bettys took off and headed for the bobmardment group at Dagua!

Day Air attack on TF, near Dagua at 51,81

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 2

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 7
Kittyhawk III x 6
P-38J Lightning x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF, near Dagua at 51,81

Japanese aircraft - one got through!
G4M2 Betty x 6

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 14
Kittyhawk III x 6
P-38J Lightning x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 5 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Idaho

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Aitape

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 19925 troops, 215 guns, 66 vehicles

Defending force 13301 troops, 95 guns, 2 vehicles

Japanese ground losses:
236 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Ground combat at Dagua - massive overkill!

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 34338 troops, 486 guns, 58 vehicles

Defending force 4417 troops, 26 guns, 2 vehicles

Allied assault odds: 34 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied forces CAPTURE Dagua base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
405 casualties reported
Guns lost 12
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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PzB74 · Post by **PzB74** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:59 pm

Andy moved his carriers north of Aitape and this has consequences...

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/10/44

Bombardments

This HUGE bombardment group was left without CAP and I had 100+ Bettys on naval
attack. 3 bombers attack the Iowa. I was cheated big time today!

Naval bombardment of Aitape, at 51,80

Allied Ships
DD Swanson
DD Walker
DD David Taylor
DD Sigsbee
DD Schroeder
DD Saufley
DD Remey
DD Marshall
DD Hopewell
DD Haraden
DD Halligan
DD Hall
BB New Jersey
BB Iowa
BB Washington
BB Idaho

Japanese ground losses:
429 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 35
Port hits 11
Port supply hits 28
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Air Combat

Bad weather grounded Andy's CAP in the AM turn and I was euphoric. 120-150 Bettys were on naval attack.
Unfortunately the bombers didn't target the high value battleships but hit numerous transports. Soo close [:(]

Day Air attack on TF, near Aitape at 51,80

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
MSW Tanager, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Edgar Allan Poe, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Benjamin Franklin, Torpedo hits 1
AK John C. Calhoun
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Day Air attack on TF, near Aitape at 51,80

Japanese aircraft - 3!!! Bettys target the great Iowa, why oh why [&:]
G4M2 Betty x 3
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
BB Iowa

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Aitape at 51,80

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 20
Ki-21 Sally x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
AK David F. Barry
LST LST-447
AK Prominent, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF, near Aitape at 51,80

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 21
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 40

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Mary A. Livermore
AK Robert S. Bean, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP Du Page
AP Katoomba, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Asphalion, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK David F. Barry
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Day Air attack on TF, near Aitape at 51,80

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 3
Ki-21 Sally x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
AK John M. Clayton
AK John Drake Sloat
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Another huuge enemy carrier ground strike - without escorts!

Day Air attack on Aitape , at 51,80

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 215
TBM Avenger x 214

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 2 damaged
TBM Avenger: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 36
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My 'decoy ships' attracts a lot of attention [:D]
Day Air attack on TF at 52,75

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 130
SB2C Helldiver x 33

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Yanagigawa, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 52,75

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 8
SB2C Helldiver x 26

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Yanagigawa, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 51,75

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 17

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Muko Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
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Day Air attack on TF at 51,75

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 31

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Muko Maru, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 50,75

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 29

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Natsukawa Maru, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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In the PM phase Andy's carriers are yet again ready for operations and - of course - my
naval bombers committs suicide against the uber CAP! [:@]

Day Air attack on TF at 50,79

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 21
Ki-21 Sally x 7

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 295

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 21 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 7 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF at 50,79

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 19
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 31

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 295

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 18 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 31 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Aitape at 51,80

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 3
Ki-21 Sally x 6

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 22
F4U-1 Corsair x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF, near Aitape at 51,80

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 22
F4U-1 Corsair x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 damaged
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Day Air attack on TF at 50,79

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 23
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 3

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 252
F4U-1 Corsair x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 23 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 3 damaged
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Ground Combat

Ground combat at Aitape

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 20057 troops, 217 guns, 66 vehicles

Defending force 11605 troops, 55 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
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Situation Map: Central New Guinea

If the game had allowed to specify targets for naval bombers things would have been soo different.
Since a carrier group with uber CAP is always the preferred target all Jap attack squadrons will
automatically committ suicide instead of sinking large numbers of enemy transports and warships - even
when unprotected.

I have to swallow hard every now and then to digest the dissappointment.... We just have to continue trying,
one day Andy will be $hit out of luck [:-]

PzB74 · Post by **PzB74** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:05 pm

Andy said he was a little lucky yesterday...understatement if there ever was one [8|]

I stood down most of my bombers - sending most of the squadrons back to China to receive reinforcements.
The enemy carriers continue to launch vicious strikes - if I could afford to loose some carriers and ships
I would have risked a counter strike supported by massive amounts of naval bombers now. Unfortunately I
have to be patient. Andy is running into a lot of problems even against lightly defended targets. There will
be lots of opportunities.

As soon as the US carriers moves away we will attempt to disrupt the enemy buildup of Aitape and Dagua.

5 new army mixed brigades arrived today, I'm going to send em all to Northern New Guinea. Forts there are
growing strong.

Question: should I withdraw parts of the Hansa and Wewak garrisons or leave them there? Don't want these
large bases to fall into enemy hands.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/11/44

Sub/ASW Attacks

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ASW attack at 36,49

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 19
PC Shonan Maru #2
PC Kyo Maru #7
PC Kanju
PC Etoforu

Allied Ships
SS Pompon, hits 3, on fire, heavy damage *sinks*
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Bombardments

Naval bombardment of Aitape, at 51,80

Allied Ships
DD Swanson
DD Walker
DD David Taylor
DD Sigsbee
DD Schroeder
DD Saufley
DD Remey
DD Marshall
DD Hopewell
DD Haraden
DD Halligan
DD Hall
BB New Jersey
BB Iowa
BB Washington
BB Idaho

Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Runway hits 11
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 6
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Air Combat

Another large carrier strike...

Day Air attack on TF at 51,76

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 128
SB2C Helldiver x 64

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Saiko Maru, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 54,78

Allied aircraft
TBM Avenger x 16

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Durban Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 54,78

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 29

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Durban Maru, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
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Must be running low on carrier strikes by now...

Day Air attack on Aitape , at 51,80

Allied aircraft
SB2C Helldiver x 265
TBM Avenger x 240

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 41
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Day Air attack on TF at 53,76

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 123
SB2C Helldiver x 31
TBM Avenger x 11

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Madras Maru, Bomb hits 15, on fire, heavy damage
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My Bettys at Wake is a thorn in Andy's side!

Day Air attack on TF at 86,68

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 12 damaged

Allied Ships
AP Elmore, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Sheridan, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP Thomas Jefferson, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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No openings here..

Day Air attack on TF, near Aitape at 51,80

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 15

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 30
F4U-1 Corsair x 12
P-38J Lightning x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 15 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 damaged
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Ground Combat

Aitape can't hold off the enemy shock attack!

Ground combat at Aitape

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 26317 troops, 247 guns, 195 vehicles

Defending force 11124 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 1)

Allied forces CAPTURE Aitape base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
268 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
391 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
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timtom · Post by **timtom** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:45 pm

It's not for me to tell you how to play your game - that's between you and your opponent (-s[;)]). Still, I have to say I don't agree with your line of reasoning, but then again I'm a bit of a purist.

Gamey = exploiting flaws/loopholes in the programming to create unrealistic situations/outcomes.

ORIGINAL: PzB

I'm not worried about gameyness here: my barges are following an AP that provides fuel. All LST and other
smaller Allied landing crafts types are also following this procedure. A few days ago Andy sent his PT boats
from Mussaie Island and all the way to Truk. They had to hike back home.

Two wrongs doesn't make a right. Why not communicate your dissatisfaction to Andy (or blow the PT's out of the water with some strafing fighters)? Responding to gameyness with gameyness can only lead to more gameyness, I should think.

ORIGINAL: PzB

Using old hulks to mislead enemy spotter planes is also a valid enough strategy - confusion to your enemies.

That's not what you're doing. You're exploiting the fact that the targeting routine can't distinguish between KB and a lone AP. This tactic only makes sense if you're hoping to tricker a full strike from the CV's. In reality, your decoys would most likely either be ignored or have a flight send their way, not be subject to series of uber-strikes.

ORIGINAL: PzB

If the game had allowed to specify targets for naval bombers things would have been soo different.
Since a carrier group with uber CAP is always the preferred target all Jap attack squadrons will
automatically committ suicide instead of sinking large numbers of enemy transports and warships - even
when unprotected...I have to swallow hard every now and then to digest the dissappointment.

Yet later you lament the very same inflexible target routines that you're at the same time hoping to exploit. Seems to me that someone is trying to have his cake and eat it too.

Anyways, it's about having fun, and whatever works for you, works for you.

Regards,

Tom

PzB74 · Post by **PzB74** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:04 pm

You're right TimTom - at times I wish the game would work better and feel a bit resigned when it doesn't.

At the same time me and Andy don't want to impose dozens of strict house rules regarding how to micro manage our
assets. I don't have to worry all too much about enemy subs because they're getting sapped by super asw ac and at the same
time Andy doesn't need more than 2 destroyers to escort hundreds of ships in his trans-pacific convoys because my subs refuse
to attack even unescorted troop ships.

As the Allied side gets more and more ships and ac the odds will stack up against Japan and since my bombers and later on - kamikazes -
will be next to useless against an enemy uber CAP I have to come up with new ideas. It's just as much a trial of will and a contest of
improvisation as anything else.

The plan to send out cargo ships to distract enemy attention was mostly a test: when the big invasion of the PI or Marianas/Palaus
takes place later on in 44 I will consider a more cunning approach. Tankers were often mistaken for carriers and so on. In 1944
Japan could ill afford to loose more of them. In this game the situation is quite different. If I can manage to hide my intentions
long enough it may be possible to delay the inevitable for just a little bit longer there will still be hope!

Japan actually sacrificed her carriers to lure the Americans away from Leyte in October 1944 - that's the kind of effect I will try to
achive by sending several cargo/tanker convoys into the battlefield. Barges and PT boats can only be attacked by fighters, going to keep
my barges in coastal waters. (Putting fighters at Rabaul is too risky - the place is bombed every now and then..and each time 90% of all ac
there are incinerated)

But rest assured, both me and Andy wish to keep thing as realistic as possible; but it is also ESSENTIAL to maintain a high degree of
playability as well. We play this game because it's fun - not because we feel obliged to. How many 1600 turns AAR games have you found
on the forums!? [;)]

PzB74 · Post by **PzB74** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:51 pm

Andy is pleased: Aitape fell and his objectives have been accomplished!
Most of his fleet is heading back towards Rabaul.

It's time to kick him in the nuts....

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/12/44

Air Combat

Massive air strikes against bases in NG!

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Day Air attack on Hollandia , at 49,79

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 47
B-24J Liberator x 103

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed
H8K Emily: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported

Airbase hits 17
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 103
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Day Air attack on Wewak , at 52,81

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 31
P-40N Warhawk x 7
P-38J Lightning x 21
P-47D Thunderbolt x 14
B-25J Mitchell x 52
PB4Y Liberator x 12
B-24J Liberator x 35

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 5 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 26
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 125
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Day Air attack on Kavieng , at 61,86

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 15
Kittyhawk III x 10
P-38J Lightning x 9
B-25J Mitchell x 51
PB4Y Liberator x 9
B-24J Liberator x 36

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 139
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Day Air attack on Wewak , at 52,81

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 34
F4U-1 Corsair x 19
SB2C Helldiver x 304
TBM Avenger x 17
Spitfire VIII x 6
Kittyhawk III x 6
P-38J Lightning x 9
P-47D Thunderbolt x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 2 destroyed, 24 damaged
TBM Avenger: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
206 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 17
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 217
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Day Air attack on TF at 57,85

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 3

Allied aircraft
Corsair IV x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
LST LST-78, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
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The Andy Driver

Since Aitape and Dagua are lightly CAP'ed and crawling with enemy shipping we will
strike - hard! Can't afford a $crewup so I need a plan that's as watertight as a mermaid's brassiere.

Da plan: 2 surface combat groups with 17 destroyers, 2 light and a heavy cruiser will attack
shipping at Aitape while a powerful bombardment force including 2 Kongo class battleships, 1
heavy and one light cruiser will bombard and take out most defending fighters.

The enemy ships that survive the onslaught will be driven out of port and finished of by the KB.

Nagumo and Yamaguchi sorties from Ulithi with the KB escorted by an asw group and a surface combat
TF. The fleet will race to a point 5 hexes short of both Aitape and Dagua. Targets will be plentiful
and Andys carriers long gone - if not I'm dead... The carriers headed south today and launched another
400 ac ground attack. Hellcats got a max range of 4 hexes, so it's safe to assume that they're out of the way.

LRCAP from various bases will provide extra cover for my TFs.
Weather forecast: CLEAR

All is set - let's see what happends - time to kick a$$ and chew bubblegum again [:D]

Fishbed · Post by **Fishbed** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:39 am

It's time to kick him in the nuts....

Eric Cartman!! Get out of this body, you goddam big-boned scum! [:D] [;)]

ny59giants · Post by **ny59giants** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:12 am

Since some of us read both AAR's, please hit the Fast Forward button and get this Mini-Jutland with CV's started...[:D][:D]

PzB74 · Post by **PzB74** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:50 am

On my way to Stavanger to find a new apartment...so here's the combat txt only!

I was certain that this was the ripe opportunity to even the odds a bit.
Somehow Andy must have gotten hold of our intentions and turned his entire fleet
turned around.

The place was again bristling with destroyers and carriers [:(]
In perfect position - 4 hexes from our fleet, all enemy carriers reacted 2 hexes
and launched devastating counter strikes.

The dreaded uber CAP awaited the KB - ALL attacking and defending ac shot down
by Hellcats. ALL carriers disabled or sunk by enemy strike. Not ONE crack pilot got
through to hit enemy fleets.

The consequences of this is much worse than Midway and the Marianas Turkey shoot put
together. The battle was so one sided that I simply pressed the end turn. Some 600 Jap
ac lost against 200 enemy fighters and bombers. The cream of the navy has been destroyed.

I gambled - and lost!

Gentlemen: I'm sorry to have failed you, the Empire has been dealt a mortal blow [&o]
All praise to Andy and his death machine!

As Wobbly took the consequences of the fall of his Empires crown jewel - so will I.
Realizing that resistance is futile the CinC will offer his appologies and resignation to
the Emperor! [:'(]

Since I'm starting in a new and demanding job as an IT Project coordinator in 2 weeks it is
possible that I may use this opportunity to step back. There may be openings for new ambitious
commanders to take over...

ok, more comments when I return tonight.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/13/44

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TF 1170 encounters mine field at Dagua (51,81)

Allied Ships
AP Empire Tamar, Mine hits 1

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Aitape at 51,80

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko, Shell hits 1
CL Kitakami, Shell hits 1
CL Yubari
DD Natsushio, Shell hits 2
DD Hayashio, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Urakaze
DD Nowaki, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Natsugumo, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Minegumo, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Shinonome

Allied Ships
DD Hazelwood
DD Hickox
DD Hoel
DD Hunt
DD Mullany
DD O'Bannon, Shell hits 1
DD Renshaw
DD Wickes
DD Stack
DD Wilson
DD Hatfield

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Aitape at 51,80

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko, Shell hits 2
CL Kitakami, Shell hits 3
CL Yubari, Shell hits 1
DD Natsushio, Shell hits 4
DD Hayashio, on fire
DD Urakaze, Shell hits 1
DD Nowaki, Shell hits 12, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Natsugumo, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Minegumo, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Shinonome, Shell hits 2, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Hazelwood, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Hickox, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Hoel
DD Hunt
DD Mullany, Shell hits 1
DD O'Bannon, Shell hits 3
DD Renshaw
DD Wickes
DD Stack
DD Wilson, Shell hits 1
DD Hatfield

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Aitape at 51,80

Japanese Ships
CL Oi, Shell hits 3
DD Tamanami
DD Onami, Shell hits 3
DD Kishinami, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hayanami, Shell hits 1
DD Hamanami, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Asashimo, Shell hits 2
DD Hatsukaze

Allied Ships
DD Hazelwood, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Hickox, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hoel, Shell hits 1
DD Hunt, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Mullany, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD O'Bannon, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Renshaw
DD Wickes, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
DD Stack
DD Wilson
DD Hatfield

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Aitape at 51,80

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei
BB Kirishima
CA Aoba
DD Akizuki
DD Teruzuki
DD Amagiri
DD Hayate
DD Yakaze
DD Numakaze

Allied Ships
PT PT-129
PT PT-130
PT PT-131
PT PT-132
PT PT-133
PT PT-134, Shell hits 25, and is sunk
PT PT-135
PT PT-136

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Aitape at 51,80

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei
BB Kirishima
CA Aoba
DD Akizuki
DD Teruzuki
DD Amagiri
DD Hayate
DD Yakaze
DD Numakaze

Allied Ships
AK Benjamin Franklin, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Francisco Coronado
AK John C. Calhoun, Shell hits 18, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Aitape at 51,80

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei
BB Kirishima
CA Aoba
DD Akizuki
DD Teruzuki
DD Amagiri
DD Hayate
DD Yakaze
DD Numakaze

Allied Ships
SC SC-1063
AK Floyd B. Olson
AK Stephen H. Long
AK Thomas M. Cooley, Shell hits 1
AK William W. Campbell, Shell hits 2
AK Empire Zephyr, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 2

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Aitape at 51,80

Japanese Ships
CL Oi
DD Tamanami, Shell hits 2
DD Onami, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Kishinami, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD Hayanami, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hamanami, on fire
DD Asashimo, Shell hits 3
DD Hatsukaze

Allied Ships
PT PT-456
PT PT-457
PT PT-458
PT PT-459
PT PT-460
PT PT-461, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
PT PT-488
PT PT-489
PT PT-490
PT PT-491
PT PT-492
PT PT-493

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Naval bombardment of Aitape, at 51,80

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba
BB Kirishima
BB Hiei

Allied ground losses:
218 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

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ASW attack at 45,56

Japanese Ships
PG Magan Maru

Allied Ships
SS Guardfish

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Day Air attack on IND IV Corps, at 22,3

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 13

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 54
N1K1-J George x 54
D4Y Judy x 27
B6N Jill x 23
G4M2 Betty x 23
P1Y Frances x 43
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 36
Ki-21 Sally x 23
Ki-48 Lily x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 120

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
11 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
36 x Ki-61 KAIc Tony bombing at 2000 feet
27 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
15 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
27 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
27 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
54 x N1K1-J George bombing at 2000 feet
15 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
20 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
23 x B6N Jill bombing at 10000 feet
6 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 15000 feet
16 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
2 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
A6M5 Zeke x 236
D4Y Judy x 45
P1Y Frances x 139

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 171

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
27 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
32 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
27 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
40 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
15 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
7 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
13 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
18 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
5 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
8 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
6 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
4 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
47 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
37 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
44 x A6M5 Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
15 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
18 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
8 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
2 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
4 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
3 x P1Y Frances bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78

Allied aircraft
Boomerang II x 12
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 31
P-40N Warhawk x 12
P-38J Lightning x 17
F-5A Lightning x 3
B-25J Mitchell x 41

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Mk 21: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12
Port hits 4
Port supply hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
4 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
8 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
8 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
8 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
10 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
15 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
2 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
2 x P-40N Warhawk bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 8000 feet
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Day Air attack on Hollandia , at 49,79

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 36
B-24J Liberator x 84

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
47 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 126

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
15 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
10 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Wewak , at 52,81

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 13
P-40N Warhawk x 6
P-38J Lightning x 25
P-47D Thunderbolt x 3
B-25J Mitchell x 41
PB4Y Liberator x 3
B-24J Liberator x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 62

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 13000 feet
11 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 13000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 13000 feet
6 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 13000 feet
8 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 13000 feet
9 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 13000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 13000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 13000 feet
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 13000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kavieng , at 61,86

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 24
Kittyhawk III x 8
P-38J Lightning x 12
B-25J Mitchell x 55
PB4Y Liberator x 10
B-24J Liberator x 37

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 91

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
20 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
8 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
7 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
12 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-24J Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 54,76

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 8
A6M2 Zero x 2
A6M5 Zeke x 131
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 8

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 139
SB2C Helldiver x 245
TBM Avenger x 66

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 8 destroyed
A6M2 Zero: 21 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 72 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 58 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 88 destroyed
SB2C Helldiver: 29 destroyed, 48 damaged
TBM Avenger: 8 destroyed, 31 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
CV Shokaku, Bomb hits 1
CA Atago
CV Zuikaku, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
CV Kaga, Bomb hits 19, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Chiyoda, Bomb hits 2, on fire
CV Akagi, Bomb hits 3, on fire
BB Kongo, Bomb hits 3, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
5 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
6 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
5 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
2 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
5 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
8 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
5 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
6 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
1 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
5 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
1 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
8 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
8 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
8 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
8 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 54,76

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 30

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 4
SB2C Helldiver x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 3 destroyed
SB2C Helldiver: 2 destroyed, 8 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CV Shokaku, Bomb hits 7, on fire
CV Akagi, Bomb hits 6, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
8 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 53,78

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 123
D4Y Judy x 119
B6N Jill x 90

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 309

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 121 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 97 destroyed
B6N Jill: 80 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 55 destroyed, 30 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 53,78

Japanese aircraft
B6N Jill x 48

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 254

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N Jill: 34 destroyed

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Day Air attack on TF at 59,85

Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied Ships
CVE Natoma Bay
CVE Kalinin Bay

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 53,78

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 11
D4Y Judy x 27
B6N Jill x 27

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 254

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 11 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 16 destroyed
B6N Jill: 23 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 54,76

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 1
A6M2 Zero x 2
A6M5 Zeke x 17
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 72
SB2C Helldiver x 164
TBM Avenger x 107

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 16 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 13 destroyed, 4 damaged
SB2C Helldiver: 3 destroyed, 12 damaged
TBM Avenger: 6 destroyed, 40 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma
CV Taiho, Bomb hits 15, Torpedo hits 2, on fire
CV Amagi, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Tama, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Ryuho
CV Unryu, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Haruna, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CV Katsuragi, Bomb hits 6, on fire
CS Mizuho, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
5 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
7 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
1 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
7 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
7 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
8 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
1 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
8 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
9 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
8 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 54,76

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 5
TBM Avenger x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
TBM Avenger: 5 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Amagi, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Ryuho, Torpedo hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 54,76

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 8
SB2C Helldiver x 8
TBM Avenger x 17

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
TBM Avenger: 9 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Ryuho

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
7 x SB2C Helldiver bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x TBM Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 53,78

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 14
D4Y Judy x 6

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 172

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 14 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged

castor troy · Post by **castor troy** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:54 am

Oh my god! [8|][X(]

skrewball · Post by **skrewball** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:38 am

I....I....I can't even think of anything to say [X(]

Sneer · Post by **Sneer** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:58 am

and not even single plane went through a cap to attack / get shot down by flak [&:][&:][&:][&:][&:]
result is weird
I'll understand if you resign from this game

veji1 · Post by **veji1** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:44 am

Arghh....;;

Don't know what to say... At least now you can focus on real life... Still, would it have been different had you been playing with Niks mod ? You would certainly have lost that battle, but maybe not all carriers, and have damaged or sunk quite a few... god... This kills half the expectation I have for this whole board... I hope we win in rugby otherwise it'll be a crappy Week End...

Honda · Post by **Honda** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:33 pm

[X(]

pauk · Post by **pauk** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:45 pm

[:(]

o my God.... (but this would happen sooner or later, anyway).

I understand your position, however keep in mind that lessons from your AAR are priceless, imortal and maybe will (hopefully) have impact for the future patches.

It would be nice if you could continue game...

PzB vs Wobbly - Clash of Steel

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Dagua falls!

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Aitape falls!

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Mermaids brassiere is NOT watertight!

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RE: Dagua falls!

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